The Duels.

[Mr. C]

Okay so I was not a fan at first. But I am coming around to the numbers being upfront. The look is growing me. And I really like the single lug on the wheels.

 

[Taboma]

Okay so I was not a fan at first. But I am coming around to the numbers being upfront. The look is growing me. And I really like the single lug on the wheels.

I'll wait patiently on the sideline for another member to show up and hopefully reveal just what the f*ck you're writing about.

 

[Mr. C]

I'll wait patiently on the sideline for another member to show up and hopefully reveal just what the f*ck you're writing about.

Oh bullshit. Yore watching. Lol

 

[pixrthis]

I'll wait patiently on the sideline for another member to show up and hopefully reveal just what the f*ck you're writing about.

Go fast turn left and repeat

 

[Mr. C]

Go fast turn left and repeat

Well it this or listen to the little woman right now want to talk about re decorating shit. Lol.

 

[Taboma]

Go fast turn left and repeat

Ahhhhhhh Soooooo, good hint

 

[pixrthis]

Well it this or listen to the little woman right now want to talk about re decorating shit. Lol.

So you’re saving money by watching the duals

 

[Mr. C]

So you’re saving money by watching the duals

Every lap.


Well maybe . She could be upstairs just ordering stuff.

 

[rrrr]

I've been waiting all off season to tune into these races so I could hear Larry McReynolds say "Shivalay."

 

[77charger]

Cars need some work theyre 10 mph off last years pretty sure the nationwide cars may run faster.

 

[HTMike]

Okay so I was not a fan at first. But I am coming around to the numbers being upfront. The look is growing me. And I really like the single lug on the wheels.

Yeah.... Me tooo.

 

[rrrr]

That block by Logano was a rather dumb choice. Team Penske is in the same situation as everyone else. The teams didn't have enough parts to build backup cars for all their drivers, and according to some reports, certain teams don't have one at all. The radical changes with the new cars have put pressure on suppliers of the transaxles and other new spec parts to provide the numbers needed.

So Logano was driving a car that could obviously have run up front on Sunday, and he trashed it trying to keep a starting position in the second row instead of the fourth. The difference between the two is of no consequence when there are 200 laps to run on Sunday.

The head on wall hit and the pinball spin off of McDowell's car did a lot of damage. It probably totaled the transaxle, the front suspension pieces, and the steering rack and pinion among other things. It may have bent the frame. Now Penske has to repair it, and will have very little track time for checkout before Sunday. Right now the car may be in a transporter heading for the shop in Mooresville.

When the green drops on Sunday, it'll be a crapshoot if the car will race properly. If they use a backup, it won't have any significant track time, and thus the same setup issues. Most importantly, they don't have a "book" on the new car. What's the setup going to be? Either way, they'll be starting at the back of the field. Joey should have taken that fourth place finish tonight. Not a smart move.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Cars need some work theyre 10 mph off last years pretty sure the nationwide cars may run faster.

These cars don’t make the same power to begin with I don’t think? I think we will get a better idea at a non plate track.

 

[cold_one]

Not my cup of tea

 

[sprintcvx]

I guess I didn't realize it has been this long since he passed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1494641863885742086

 

[77charger]

These cars don’t make the same power to begin with I don’t think? I think we will get a better idea at a non plate track.

They didn’t run in pack as great looks easy to lose draft too. Cars get separated too far and can’t catch gonna mske really boring plate races.

 

[FreeBird236]

They didn’t run in pack as great looks easy to lose draft too. Cars get separated too far and can’t catch gonna mske really boring plate races.

They got some tweaking to do. I can handle the single lug, but those wheels are hideous.

 

[Badchoices03]

That block by Logano was a rather dumb choice. Team Penske is in the same situation as everyone else. The teams didn't have enough parts to build backup cars for all their drivers, and according to some reports, certain teams don't have one at all. The radical changes with the new cars have put pressure on suppliers of the transaxles and other new spec parts to provide the numbers needed.

So Logano was driving a car that could obviously have run up front on Sunday, and he trashed it trying to keep a starting position in the second row instead of the fourth. The difference between the two is of no consequence when there are 200 laps to run on Sunday.

The head on wall hit and the pinball spin off of McDowell's car did a lot of damage. It probably totaled the transaxle, the front suspension pieces, and the steering rack and pinion among other things. It may have bent the frame. Now Penske has to repair it, and will have very little track time for checkout before Sunday. Right now the car may be in a transporter heading for the shop in Mooresville.

When the green drops on Sunday, it'll be a crapshoot if the car will race properly. If they use a backup, it won't have any significant track time, and thus the same setup issues. Most importantly, they don't have a "book" on the new car. What's the setup going to be? Either way, they'll be starting at the back of the field. Joey should have taken that fourth place finish tonight. Not a smart move.

Definitely a dumb move but they already said last night that Penske made the decision to run Logano's back up car on Sunday and that they would be taking some parts off the wrecked car and put them on the backup to make that car more competitive.

I was more surprised that Logano took full credit for the move and didn't blame Buescher.

How about Keslowski's new team RFK winning both duels....great start for them!

 

[mjc]

Definitely a dumb move but they already said last night that Penske made the decision to run Logano's back up car on Sunday and that they would be taking some parts off the wrecked car and put them on the backup to make that car more competitive.

I was more surprised that Logano took full credit for the move and didn't blame Buescher.

How about Keslowski's new team RFK winning both duels....great start for them!

Jack is looking real old on victory lane.

 

[playdeep]

Interesting that both guys sitting on the front row for Daytona..
Spent the week leading up to qualifying running Winged 410 sprint car's on dirt at the local short tracks.
(actually Larson ran super late models&sprints).
...coincidence? I think not.

 

[Canuck 1]

bring back real cars and drivers

 

[Brian]

bring back real cars and drivers

You'd have car's going 250-260. It's just not safe.
In the mid 2000's Rusty Wallace tested at Talladega with no plate and was in the high 240's average. The tires started coming apart after 10 laps. It's just not a smart idea to have these things up much over 200 for a extended length of time for many reasons.

 

[Waterheater]

You'd have car's going 250-260. It's just not safe.
In the mid 2000's Rusty Wallace tested at Talladega with no plate and was in the high 240's average. The tires started coming apart after 10 laps. It's just not a smart idea to have these things up much over 200 for a extended length of time for many reasons.

It would be real cool to uncork a couple and let them run. Just to see what they could do.

 

[ChevelleSB406]

You'd have car's going 250-260. It's just not safe.
In the mid 2000's Rusty Wallace tested at Talladega with no plate and was in the high 240's average. The tires started coming apart after 10 laps. It's just not a smart idea to have these things up much over 200 for a extended length of time for many reasons.

That's with a flat tappet cam and all the rest. Before the change to roller cams a few years ago, Jimmie Johnson indicated HP number around 930hp, so they could have gone much higher with roller cams and all the other improvements, so as you said, rear gear and the various engine plate packages now are the only way to keep them somewhat safe.

 

[Canuck 1]

You'd have car's going 250-260. It's just not safe.
In the mid 2000's Rusty Wallace tested at Talladega with no plate and was in the high 240's average. The tires started coming apart after 10 laps. It's just not a smart idea to have these things up much over 200 for a extended length of time for many reasons.

Actual lap speed was 216 not 240. I believe he was almost 230 on the straights

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Actual lap speed was 216 not 240. I believe he was almost 230 on the straights

None of those drivers have those kinds of death wishes.

 

[Canuck 1]

None of those drivers have those kinds of death wishes.

Bill qualified at 212 so 216 isn't a stretch. Buddy was at nearly 220 in 1970 on the back stretch

 

[LuauLounge]

Back in the 70’s they were stock frames with floating rear axles. Fortunately, they were all headed in the same direction, until they weren’t.

 

[playdeep]

Back in the 70’s they were stock frames with floating rear axles. Fortunately, they were all headed in the same direction, until they weren’t.

And they used trucks trailing arms...
Btw...those original steel wheels are bringing rain these days price wise if you can find them.

Just saw where RFK racing had their wheels confiscated &sent back to NC for testing.
...let the cheating begin!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Bill qualified at 212 so 216 isn't a stretch. Buddy was at nearly 220 in 1970 on the back stretch

Different time. All the drivers have said there is no need to go that fast to put on a good show. They scream and yell about it every time a car goes airborne.

 

[Canuck 1]

Different time. All the drivers have said there is no need to go that fast to put on a good show. They scream and yell about it every time a car goes airborne.

Go watch Talladega or Daytona from 68 to 87, much better racing than the crash pack crap they have now. Drivers and crew chiefs not aero and computers

 

[Brian]

Go watch Talladega or Daytona from 68 to 87, much better racing than the crash pack crap they have now. Drivers and crew chiefs not aero and computers

Accept change and quit bitching about "how it used to be". Would you rather watch 30 guys going for the win in the last few laps, or having 4 cars on the lead lap like it was back in the 80's? If you like the old type of racing then watch old races on YouTube.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Go watch Talladega or Daytona from 68 to 87, much better racing than the crash pack crap they have now. Drivers and crew chiefs not aero and computers

I get it. But if they ran that package with today's tech, fans and drivers would die. The cars would be too fast and exit the track.

Watch that race that @rrrr posted of the Miatas in the rain at Daytona. That is better racing than most Nascar oval races and any modern plate race.

MX-5 Cup at Daytona in the rain!

This race was a sideshow to the Rolex 24 and other events. A bunch of Miatas running in the rain at Daytona...it's some crazy stuff. Our resident racers @LargeOrangeFont, @Cdog and @spectras only will enjoy this. I've seen these guys run before, but not in the wet. It's nuts! 😁 The announcers...

www.riverdavesplace.com

 

[Canuck 1]

Accept change and quit bitching about "how it used to be". Would you rather watch 30 guys going for the win in the last few laps, or having 4 cars on the lead lap like it was back in the 80's? If you like the old type of racing then watch old races on YouTube.

Youtube is the majority of what I watch cause the racing for the last 20 years is poor at best and the new cars are worse. Enjoy your participation racing

 

[rrrr]

Watch that race that @rrrr posted of the Miatas in the rain at Daytona. That is better racing than most Nascar oval races and any modern plate race.

MX-5 Cup at Daytona in the rain!

This race was a sideshow to the Rolex 24 and other events. A bunch of Miatas running in the rain at Daytona...it's some crazy stuff. Our resident racers @LargeOrangeFont, @Cdog and @spectras only will enjoy this. I've seen these guys run before, but not in the wet. It's nuts! 😁 The announcers...

www.riverdavesplace.com

From the drop of the green flag, those guys were racing hard.

I was amazed the cars were staying on track considering the speed they were carrying going into Turn 1 and the bus stop.

Connor Zilisch, in car #72, is a rookie up from karting ranks. He's fifteen freekin' years old! Back in October, he won the Spec Miata Shootout at Sebring and a $110,000 scholarship to run in MX-5 Cup during 2022.

Zilisch had run exactly one full race in a MX-5 Cup car on a big road course before the Daytona event, at Road Atlanta in November 2021. At Daytona, he drove that little rocket into the corners so deep I thought there was no way it was going to stick, and he did it lap after lap.

Zilisch is new on the sports car scene, having raced karts since he was four and a half years old. He is now 15 with multiple national karting championships under his belt. He’s been dipping his toe into the Spec Miata and Spec MX-5 waters lately and even finished third at the SCCA National Championship Runoffs this year at Indianapolis Motor Speedway in Spec Miata.

Mazda MX-5 Cup Shootout winner Zilisch joins field for Road Atlanta finale

The latest recipient of the Mazda MX-5 Cup Shootout Scholarship, Connor Zilisch, will make his series debut in the final two rounds of the Idemitsu Mazda MX-5 Cup presented by BFGoodrich Tires at M…

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All 2022 MX-5 Cup races will be streamed live on racer.com. The next race will be during the weekend of February 25-27, on the streets of St Petersburg in conjunction with the IndyCar race. I'll definitely be watching.

 

[baja-chris]

Was stoked to see Zane Smith win the truck race. Looking like he might have a legit career in front of him.

 

[Sandlord]

It would be cool to see Biffle win the 500 today

 

[LuauLounge]

NASCAR has some work to do before Talladega.

 

[spectra3279]

I still like the old cars better also. Real production cars that people could actually buy. Not these frames with a body riveted to them.

Yes the new cars are safer but it's not as good a race. Just my .02