Test drives wanted for new XR gear set!

[RiverDave]

Endurance Innovations is looking for a few boats to be part of real-world testing of our PROTOTYPE XR UPPER GEARSET.

THESE ARE NOT FOR SALE !!!! REPEATING...NOT FOR SALE !!!

We need a few boats of varying horsepower levels, style of boat, seasonal usage time.

We will need you to run at least 50 hours until the end of your season, then pull the gears out, and send back to us for evaluation. There is risk involved, which you MUST UNDERSTAND, and potentially high costs involved as well. There will be no financial compensation for being a tester. We know there are a few guys out there that would be willing to be a part of what we believe will finally be the answer to the under-performing, high failure OEM gears. If the gears pass testing, then the testers will be eligible for both our upper and lower gearsets for free. If the uppers don't perform as expected, the testers will still be eligible for our race proven lower sets for free. The value is up to 5K per drive.

If you want to be a part of the testing, send an email to: enduranceinnovations@gmail.com

Let us know make and model of boat, what engines (NA or blown), geographic area boat is used, and whether you can hit the minimum 50-hour runtime needed for the test.

Please do not call us, or message us thru FB.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

For $5K are they made out of titanium?

If they want to outdo IMCO at the SCX I’d try those if they make them.

 

[02HoWaRd26]

I read it twice this morning, and ultimately just do t see this being worth signing up for. They send you gears, you pay to have installed. You run them and in one hour they disintegrate and destroy your entire drive, well you’re the cost of having whole drive rebuilt.
If it runs good, no issues in your boat, you pay to have removed after 50 hours. Now they go back to manufacturer, they decided to manufacture and you get a free set, you get to pay to have put back in. They decide not to move forward now you pay to have your stock/prior gears put back in.

No matter how you look at it, you’re spending close to 2k with the swap in swap out, swap back in. And still no knowledge if you’ll get this set back even.

 

[n2otoofast4u]

I read it twice this morning, and ultimately just do t see this being worth signing up for. They send you gears, you pay to have installed. You run them and in one hour they disintegrate and destroy your entire drive, well you’re the cost of having whole drive rebuilt.
If it runs good, no issues in your boat, you pay to have removed after 50 hours. Now they go back to manufacturer, they decided to manufacture and you get a free set, you get to pay to have put back in. They decide not to move forward now you pay to have your stock/prior gears put back in.

No matter how you look at it, you’re spending close to 2k with the swap in swap out, swap back in. And still no knowledge if you’ll get this set back even.

My thoughts exactly!

If it was Liberty, who I KNOW can make gears, it MIGHT be a different discussion, but this is a break even at best scenario!

 

[Dalton]

For someone with gears currently broken this may work out ok

 

[RiverDave]

Might be worth it to a shop or someone like maxed machine worx..

 

[Marine Industries West]

Just a thought, but my mind would have automatically went to them building 3-4 drives with their product and offer to install them on test boats at no charge. Maybe hold the customers drives during the test phase and swap them back out at no charge later. If one is savi enough to manufacture gears, they should be able to assemble drives. If you’re willing to hunt, you can find cases, parts, and assemble XR drives with good uses parts for 5-6K a piece. I don’t see the point in asking innocent customers to pay that kind of money to do their testing for them. The risk, cost, and inconvenience is pretty high.

 

[WildWilly]

I've been involved in a lot of testing and prototyping in the car world with the builds I've done and this is probably the most lopsided offer I've ever seen from a manufacturer.

 

[Done-it-again]

I read it twice this morning, and ultimately just do t see this being worth signing up for. They send you gears, you pay to have installed. You run them and in one hour they disintegrate and destroy your entire drive, well you’re the cost of having whole drive rebuilt.
If it runs good, no issues in your boat, you pay to have removed after 50 hours. Now they go back to manufacturer, they decided to manufacture and you get a free set, you get to pay to have put back in. They decide not to move forward now you pay to have your stock/prior gears put back in.

No matter how you look at it, you’re spending close to 2k with the swap in swap out, swap back in. And still no knowledge if you’ll get this set back even.

Agreed. Nothing like having someone else test your product on the testers own dime for a retail set of gears that MSRP at 5k. What’s the cost ? 1/2 that.

Mind boggling that a gear set mfg doesn’t have drives to loan out for testing.

 

[Yoshiro]

I just had a set of their lower gears put into my backup drive, but I waited to do this until my "drive guy" had enough experience with their gears to be able to tell me yes they are better than OEM. I'll wait and see on the uppers. Too much $ at stake if things go bad.

 

[DiamondDave]

There are many I have read about that get one season if they are lucky out of a Bravo based drive. I'm not talking about the typical small lake boats either. Big heavy twin/ trip V's with high X's, big power,, big water use, etc. that are forced to baby the hell out of their stuff to even make it live. For these guys these could be a game changer and well worth any expense if you consider the frustration of popping drives left and right during your season. Well worth the price of admission IMO.

Would I take apart a working drive to "test" them? No I would not, but if I had a grenaded one or waiting for backordered gears from Mother Merc then yes.

 

[Wizard29]

I think you all should just get M6 drives and be done with it.

 

[HALLETT BOY]

Trying to make standard size XR gears work in moderate to high horsepower applications is beating a dead horse , the gears are just physically too small . The contact patch is just too small and special alloys and heat and cryo treating only slightly helps them survive . It’s like trying to make a Dana 44 axle live behind a 540 ci big block , you blow it up 4-5 times then swap in a Dana 60 .