SxS purchase with salvage/ resale?

[wet hull]

Good morning all. I have been looking for a SxS for Havasu and came across what appears to be a pretty good deal. It's a salvage and there appears to be zero damage, motor just needs to be installed and is with it per the ad. I can do that easy enough. My question is would you buy a salvage depending on the cause? Resale value will obviously not be the same as clean title. What percentage as a buyer would you like to see discounted if you were to purchase over clean title? This last question is for me to gauge whether I would have any value after a couple years use.

For reference it's a 2021 RzR turbo 4 seater.

 

[fat rat]

I’d question why the motor is out, i won’t buy with out a test drive.

 

[rivrrts429]

Do you have pictures? There’s a reason it’s a salvage. I’d be interested what the damage “appears” to be.

 

[mjc]

Are you buying it to resale or use? If using it who cares what value it may loose after the discount for purchase.

 

[wet hull]

Are you buying it to resale or use? If using it who cares what value it may loose after the discount for purchase.

For personel use, not resale. Just wondering if my investment is worth zero in 2 years if I wanted to move into a newer car. I would love to test drive but not really a option until assembled.

 

[2Driver]

Its like being excited that you got a set of tires for 1/2 price and they still have 50% of the tread left.

 

[wet hull]

It would be for personel use, sell someday if I moved into newer car. I would love to test drive but just not a option. This deal is up for $10,500 and probably some wiggle room. Here is pics from the add. He also sent me a copy of the title. Is there a carfax for SxS?

 

[wet hull]

He also stated brand new built transmission and front differential. Will they salvage if there was catastrophic failure of those components? I am brand new to the SxS world and know very little.

 

[rivermobster]

That's not a salvage, that's what's called a "basket case".

Free? Maybe.

10k? Fuck no!!!

 

[wet hull]

That's not a salvage, that's what's called a "basket case".

Free? Maybe.

10k? Fuck no!!!

What would you realistically offer? I don't mind a project. Was looking at a baja bug yesterday that needs TLC and I enjoy that aspect.

In other news, wife wants to make some changes to website and maybe add another for different aspects of the buisness. Give Villy a call when you have a chance.

 

[pronstar]

He also stated brand new built transmission and front differential. Will they salvage if there was catastrophic failure of those components? I am brand new to the SxS world and know very little.

Savage titles aren’t given for expensive component failures.

Salvage titles are given for expensive accident repairs.

A pile of parts are worth very little, a running and driving vehicle is worth something.

If it was as easy as bolting those parts onto the existing vehicle, the seller would have already done it.

 

[HNL2LHC]

nice project. Looks like our car when we hat eh work done to it, less the missing drivetrain. If you have a good builder maybe but it will cost you. Sounds like you are not going to do it your self with your questions. The build might not be worth the $$$. If you want a guy in Havasu to give you a rebuild cost let me know. I think that the guy who did my might be willing to do it. Keep in mind my running car cost $20k of suspension and cage work. You can go cheaper for sure. It just depends on what you want to end result to be. Stock car or a modified updated car. Good luck….

 

[rivrrts429]

Looking at the pictures doesn’t look like a rollover although there’s one bent cage component I can see.

Could be a flood type salvage. That could get expensive. No other reason to have motor out.

 

[Racey]

Savage titles aren’t given for expensive component failures.

Salvage titles are given for expensive accident repairs.

A pile of parts are worth very little, a running and driving vehicle is worth something.

If it was as easy as bolting those parts onto the existing vehicle, the seller would have already done it.

They will salvage out a SxS for almost any frame damage.

I have a buddy that rebuilt a totalled out 1000 NA 4 seater and he used that thing for years with no issues. I drove it all over duck creek one weekend and it was perfectly fine. Pretty much a no brainer if you score a 15k car for 5k and have some tools and a place to work on it.

You just have to have the capability of fixing shit and the thing will be fine most likely. The seller may not have the basic skill to finish the job, or he may have enough money where it's not worth it to him....

 

[DRYHEAT]

Could this be a theft recovery out of a chop shop and they just hadn’t completely torn it apart yet? Maybe the insurance didn’t want to pay to put it together.

 

[hallett21]

Assuming it’s all “there” and the chassis is straight etc. I’d offer 5k and see what they say. 10 is getting close to a nice used one after you factor in labor to put it back together.

It’s probably worth 10k fully running.

 

[zhandfull]

Savage title 15-20% less market value. That would be for a complete running driving vehicle IMO.

Thats a basket case as others have pointed out.

The value is the sum of the parts at core value. If parts come up missing or internally damaged. It will get expensive fast. Even missing fasteners can get expensive quickly.

10k seems high for the time and risk you would potentially be taking.

 

[Javajoe]

That would be a big no for me. Hindsight is 20/20 right? If you need to ask, that’s your answer. There are WAY too many for sale to buy that. Just my 2 cents

 

[wet hull]

Thanks to all for the input. I would do as much work as possible but lean on motor assembly from 3rd party. He said he bought for $9500 as is. This may be a case where I offer around that $5k and he only looses $4500 but at least his headache is gone. I would rebuild in my shop in Vista and have a Polaris dealer 2 min away from me. This is a tough one with lots to consider. I am trying to figure out what a new motor cost ready for bolt in. I will never be a racer, so really just want something we can run around in with me, wife and kid.

 

[rivermobster]

What would you realistically offer? I don't mind a project. Was looking at a baja bug yesterday that needs TLC and I enjoy that aspect.

In other news, wife wants to make some changes to website and maybe add another for different aspects of the buisness. Give Villy a call when you have a chance.

Copy that.

Me? Free would be the only way I'd buy Any basket case. You have

absolutely no idea what you're getting into here, so it may end up being something that has nothing but scrap value.

And if you have to do all the labor to part it out, consider how much your TIME is worth to you first? Would you really be making a profit?

With the market being what it is today, there are Far better deals out there.

 

[Hermosa]

Run away from that fast. That is a lot more than just a motor replacement. Looks abused and missing a lot of stuff, looks 15 years old. Run!

 

[Singleton]

Salvage title is SXS = frame damage and/or flood and the electrical is done.

roll cage looks to be bent. Driver side trailing arm and axle looks new compared to passenger side.
With no ability to test if engine fires, an offer of 5k is 2500 too much. If the engine is done, that is a 5k rebuild.

 

[bonesfab]

The missing small parts will nickle and dime you to death. And what else is missing?? And you are not the one who took it apart so figuring out how and where things go and the missing little bracket will drive most crazy. We do it all the time with incomplete classics that come in and swear all the parts are there. Sure they are.

 

[rivermobster]

Theft jobs can definitely become salvage title vehicles. I've put em back together myself (at the dealership).

Do we even know if This vehicle IS an actual salvage vehicle? Is the salvage title in the hand of the seller?

Or is it a basket case, that the seller is Calling a salvage title vehicle?

Did I read the seller bought it as a basket case, and now wants to sell it the same way?

Run Forest, run!!!

 

[DLC]

There is so much unknown …

How many miles on it?

The shock springs are toast
Trans needs to have good bearings installed - bearing failure is common - stock take outs are all over 50/50 gamble but still need the good bearings
I’d want a compression test on the motor done - any grit inside and it will burn oil like crazy. Need to have good clean air filters

If you have questions about motor trans etc

Call
Benchmark Performance in Ramona

Benchmark Performance - Powersports Specialists

benchmarkperformance.us

 

[wzuber]

Fuck it....I say go for it..........
The school of hard knocks needs a new student.......
Go get'r n git busy a knockin bro.....ha

 

[evantwheeler]

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[attitude]

There is so much unknown …

How many miles on it?

The shock springs are toast
Trans needs to have good bearings installed - bearing failure is common - stock take outs are all over 50/50 gamble but still need the good bearings
I’d want a compression test on the motor done - any grit inside and it will burn oil like crazy. Need to have good clean air filters

If you have questions about motor trans etc

Call
Benchmark Performance in Ramona

Benchmark Performance - Powersports Specialists

benchmarkperformance.us

Benchmark is also a RDP member but I don’t think he posts much. He has a single turbo Daytona.

I would look to see why he didn’t put the motor in himself. Check the case and frame to make sure nothing is broken. I’ve heard of the cases cracking where they mount.

 

[Racey]

I dont know if you're married to a 4 seater, but if you're looking for a project, I have a 2015 XP1000 non turbo 2 seater that needs reassembly that i would sell for $5k. I tore it down in 2017 thinking the timing chain slipped (it didint) and while i had it halfway torn apart, i went all the way and repowdercoated the suspension and wheels. No known mechanical issues except it needs a fuel pump spacer installed - fuel delivery was the issue that cause me to tear it apart after lots of forum research.

Its a project i just cant get the motivation to complete since i have a buggy and many other things that require attention. I just want the thing out of my garage so i can focus on other projects. Would be a cool project for a kid with mechanical interests.

I bought it with 100miles from Ricky at Maxed Out Marine. About 2800 miles on it from memory.


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This is a great deal for anyone that wants to get into a RZR for cheap and has some time to invest a little sweat

 

[CoolCruzin]

It’s been junked and will alway be that .
That being said buy a running car not salvaged .

 

[02HoWaRd26]

He also stated brand new built transmission and front differential. Will they salvage if there was catastrophic failure of those components? I am brand new to the SxS world and know very little.

I wouldn’t walk past this one, I’d run past it. That looks like a gremlin, you can’t test drive so you have no clue what all is trashed on it.

 

[evantwheeler]

This is a great deal for anyone that wants to get into a RZR for cheap and has some time to invest a little sweat

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[wzuber]

Its the worst hit i will have ever taken on anything. I think i paid $21k for it and put another $5k into it in parts. I just cannot get the motivation to do the reassembly, all the parts are here. This thread is ironic timing as i told myself last night i should just list it for my bottom dollar and see if it works for someone. Its not perfect, but it has some decent parts on it. No doubt, its a risk for someone. It would be worth it just in spare parts for someone with an XP1k 2 seater or 4 seater…..

Is it a roller or does it require blocking up on trailer to remove?

 

[rivermobster]

Its the worst hit i will have ever taken on anything. I think i paid $21k for it and put another $5k into it in parts. I just cannot get the motivation to do the reassembly, all the parts are here. This thread is ironic timing as i told myself last night i should just list it for my bottom dollar and see if it works for someone. Its not perfect, but it has some decent parts on it. No doubt, its a risk for someone. It would be worth it just in spare parts for someone with an XP1k 2 seater or 4 seater…..

Why would it be a risk? I'm definitely interested. PM scent.

 

[evantwheeler]

Is it a roller or does it require blocking up on trailer to remove?

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[evantwheeler]

Why would it be a risk? I'm definitely interested. PM scent.

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[evantwheeler]

Why would it be a risk? I'm definitely interested. PM scent.

I thought you hated SxS’s?!? I did not receive a PM…

 

[riverroyal]

It's not the price today.
It's the countless mother fuckers on the trail when you break. Cause that thing has no reliability.
We all have a budget, but getting towed then dumping MORE money into it, to then have no resale is a bad idea.
At least for me.

 

[wzuber]

I thought you hated SxS’s?!? I did not receive a PM…

You didn't receive his pm because it was scent, not sent. It was that foul oder that you blamed on the dog for farting. Haha

Thx for the clarification on your car. Attractive opportunity for the right someone.

 

[82daytona]

I wouldn’t walk past this one, I’d run past it. That looks like a gremlin, you can’t test drive so you have no clue what all is trashed on it.

Meow

 

[ChumpChange]

That's not a salvage, that's what's called a "basket case".

Free? Maybe.

10k? Fuck no!!!

Yeah I had a guy the other day told me his Tacoma was salvaged because of a scratch in the bumper. Sad part is I know somebody bought it.

 

[wet hull]

I got the carfax. Salvage do to undercarriage damage. I am going to move on from this one.

 

[Javajoe]

Smart Move

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Mine looks like this right now @HNL2LHC. LOL. Your car turned out awesome Tim. I think my next SXS will be a salvaged unit from CoPart or wherever I can find the model I'm looking for at the right price. I've lurked the CoPart auction site and that seems the way to go for anyone that wants something custom.

 

[2Driver]

Been through 8 SXS since 2006. I bought each one with super low miles, an extended warranty and I sold them before that extended warranty was up. None of the 8 cost me a dime except for gas.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Mine looks like this right now @HNL2LHC. LOL. Your car turned out awesome Tim. I think my next SXS will be a salvaged unit from CoPart or wherever I can find the model I'm looking for at the right price. I've lurked the CoPart auction site and that seems the way to go for anyone that wants something custom.

I would assume that you are talking about NEXT season. If this season you are the man Jeff!!!

 

[Sportin' Wood]

I would assume that you are talking about NEXT season. If this season you are the man Jeff!!!

I'm just in discovery Tim. However, my current rig is scattered all over the shop and looks like your picture, except in my story the dash is ripped out and the wires are everywhere. I'm nearly done with the rewire, it will start to go back together this week. With any luck she will be ready to head south early November.

That said, I have toyed with stretching the wheel base of my rig half way to a four seater, but I came to the conclusion I did not want to be without a rig that long, so I'm thinking shortening a 4 seater might be easier to wire. Then I start looking at the way these things are built and I think I would just rather build a whole new chassis, and then I think I don't really want a new car that bad. LOL.

I wish the Speed Car thing would have worked out better, I like the extra space one of the models offers, and I'm hopeful that Can Am will offer that size car some time in the near future, because it is easier to go buy a car. Maybe the Speed thing will make sense at some point.

I guess my point in a response to this thread is that I would not be worried about a salvaged title on an off-road car. They are all beat to shit, if you are buying used; expect it to be worked over. These things are just too fast for most people to handle and they mess them up. I can't imagine there is going to be easy money out there to finance a used UTV regardless of it being a salvaged title. Go buy what you can afford and treat it however you like. Assume it is gonna be like a summer romance and think of the time you spent driving the hell out of it fondly.

 

[rivermobster]

I thought you hated SxS’s?!? I did not receive a PM…

Hell no. No hate here. I've been eyeballing the Honda Talon for awhile now.

I'll send you another. If you don't get it this time, shoot me a PM with your number.

Thanks.