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Buds down 15ish percent from when this all went down.

It’s also damn near even on the 1 year chart.

They’ve lost money no doubt but they’re no where near dead.

Edit.

In 2019 they were trading at $110 a share vs $55 today.
 

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I was thinking about this the other day. I know zero transgender people that are even slightly affected by all this. I do know a few normal Joe’s that are sweating their jobs right now.
I get the idea but it seems to me y’all are only hurting your own. I guess that is acceptable collateral damage these days …
It might be the company you work for next.
 

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I was thinking about this the other day. I know zero transgender people that are even slightly affected by all this. I do know a few normal Joe’s that are sweating their jobs right now.
I get the idea but it seems to me y’all are only hurting your own. I guess that is acceptable collateral damage these days …
It might be the company you work for next.

The boycott was never meant to affect transgender people. It was about sending a message to companies that are trying to ram fringe sexual lifestyles down the public's throat that they are over it and not playing along any more.

Most people have had a "live and let live" attitude. But that is going out the window faster ever day when it starts transitioning to "endorse our way of life or you're a bigot"
 

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I was thinking about this the other day. I know zero transgender people that are even slightly affected by all this. I do know a few normal Joe’s that are sweating their jobs right now.
I get the idea but it seems to me y’all are only hurting your own. I guess that is acceptable collateral damage these days …
It might be the company you work for next.
Lets go ahead an put personal responsibility on the table. You can be a drone and work for any company and make the choice to ask or inquire with your mgmt if they are going to go down any crazy marketing strategies that might upset the apple cart OR you can work for smaller companies that rely on SMART decisions to stay in buisness. Yes alot of innocent employees are hurt by this BUT if you have not learned that huge corporations will make moves with or without employee consent daily then I have a problem with the feeling sorry for the worker. No one forced you to pigeon hole your life to a brand of beer ! THE BIGGER LESSON is we are a powerful force When we band together, we should do it more often.
 

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That is the response I was expecting. And for the record I think you're alright and would like to meet you in person some day.
Im not really quite the asshole I seem to be!😎
It just seems to me it’s always the same rhetoric.
“Comfortability” seems to be what everyone laments losing.
It defines, to me, just why we lose work to those who are willing to hustle and do what needs done.
We all want to work our career, have it always be steady, make a lot of money, and have no worries.
In other countries things like eating and not getting shot are the priority.
Someone from another country comes here and all they see is opportunity. All we see is obstacles.

Anyone still sitting in an empty Bud Light tent missed the boat by months. Thinking it’s going get busy again any time soon is to ignore the reality of the Dylan backlash.
Right or wrong.
Typically a Gas drilling project lasts 2-6 years depending on the operator, the field, and above all the investors.
After 35 years in the business you get a feel for when it’s time to start making calls. (Im getting that feeling now on the project I’m involved with!)

I mean, we’ve been boo Hoo’ing bud light workers for how long now? They work for AB, surely they can lateral to another position? If not I’m quite sure every one of them knows someone who jumped ship already and has job leads for them.
Maybe sitting in that tent is punishment detail for lazy employees?
Either way, they are there by their own accord.
 

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Boo Hoo
Switch jobs. Beer drinking has not gone down, it’s shifted sideways.
Shift with it or just sit there.
My industry is vilified 24/7 and always has been.
Adapt or die.
Beer drinking is in fact down. As a percentage of the overall alcoholic beverage market, beer is at its lowest % in at least 20 years. Beer production by volume is also down in last several years. Spirits consumption is up markedly in the past decade. Both Molson Coors and BUD have had a rough go with the shift of consumer consumption to spirits from beer. Wine has its own problems in attracting younger drinkers to replace the trialing off Boomers.

BUD did lasting damage. But, like you said, the employees may need to shift their job to another employer where beer sales have taken market share from Bud Light.
 

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How are they still #2, they just dropped out of the top 10 selling beers in the US to #14

They just lost the #1 weekly spot to Modelo 6 weeks ago and are still number 2 in sales for the year as far as I can tell.

That and they have a ton of brands.
 

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Im not really quite the asshole I seem to be!😎
It just seems to me it’s always the same rhetoric.
“Comfortability” seems to be what everyone laments losing.
It defines, to me, just why we lose work to those who are willing to hustle and do what needs done.
We all want to work our career, have it always be steady, make a lot of money, and have no worries.
In other countries things like eating and not getting shot are the priority.
Someone from another country comes here and all they see is opportunity. All we see is obstacles.

Anyone still sitting in an empty Bud Light tent missed the boat by months. Thinking it’s going get busy again any time soon is to ignore the reality of the Dylan backlash.
Right or wrong.
Typically a Gas drilling project lasts 2-6 years depending on the operator, the field, and above all the investors.
After 35 years in the business you get a feel for when it’s time to start making calls. (Im getting that feeling now on the project I’m involved with!)

I mean, we’ve been boo Hoo’ing bud light workers for how long now? They work for AB, surely they can lateral to another position? If not I’m quite sure every one of them knows someone who jumped ship already and has job leads for them.
Maybe sitting in that tent is punishment detail for lazy employees?
Either way, they are there by their own accord.
I find it amusing that the BL apologist in here will say; "They're only down xxx, or They've simply gone from #1 to #2." Yet they are quick to blame the folks boycotting BL or all AB products as homophobic and costing folks jobs. So (you all know who you are) which is it? It's had an affect or it hasn't??

"Both sides of our mouths"
 

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I find it amusing that the BL apologist in here will say; "They're only down xxx, or They've simply gone from #1 to #2." Yet they are quick to blame the folks boycotting BL or all AB products as homophobic and costing folks jobs. So (you all know who you are) which is it? It's had an affect or it hasn't??

"Both sides of our mouths"
Not sure it’s talking out of both sides of your mouth?

I’d say the people to blame are Officers of Anheuser Busch, marketing and upper management.

But the most effected by this are bartenders, distributors, truck drivers etc. None of those people had a say (to my knowledge) in the Mulvaney (sp?) marketing campaign.

I believe finally a few upper people were suspended/fired?

Looking at BUD on the stock market they are 15% down from their 6 month high. Which compared to the rest of the market is not good but they aren’t going anywhere because they have so many other products.

I’m not advocating for any of the BS that companies are trying to force down our throats.

But showing boating events, Harley/motorcycle events and other predominantly conservative events with empty Budweiser tents in my opinion isn’t showing the whole picture.

Edit. Simply put yes, this has had a negative effect on both the stock price and blue collar’s paychecks since the marketing campaign 6months ago. But BUD (as a stock) has been in a decline for 5-10 years as well.
 
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I think we need to up the beer consumption!
Let’s show em who’s boss and drink more beer!

Who’s with me?

Im going to crack a beer right now! Just to get started, why put it off for tomorrow when you can start drinking today !


I don’t need excuses to drink beer…. just blue mountains!

cheers!
 

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Budlight is one of like 20 beers they produce.
They just lost the #1 weekly spot to Modelo 6 weeks ago and are still number 2 in sales for the year as far as I can tell.

That and they have a ton of brands.
I'm just referring to Bud light, I know they have a lot of brands. lol
 

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I was thinking about this the other day. I know zero transgender people that are even slightly affected by all this. I do know a few normal Joe’s that are sweating their jobs right now.
I get the idea but it seems to me y’all are only hurting your own. I guess that is acceptable collateral damage these days …
It might be the company you work for next.

Your own??

Acceptable collateral damage?

You have a strange perspective my friend.

I have a Good friend who is gay and he hates what's going on today as much as I do.

Companies need to stay the fuck out of social issues and just make whatever is they make and STFU about anything else.

AND the alphabet community needs to stop trying to force their agenda down everyone's throat!!! This is the main issue here. Hopefully the message has been sent and received.

Wise man once said...

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

ALL People need to be mindful of that.
 

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I was thinking about this the other day. I know zero transgender people that are even slightly affected by all this. I do know a few normal Joe’s that are sweating their jobs right now.
I get the idea but it seems to me y’all are only hurting your own. I guess that is acceptable collateral damage these days …
It might be the company you work for next.
Spot on.
 

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Your own??

Acceptable collateral damage?

You have a strange perspective my friend.

I have a Good friend who is gay and he hates what's going on today as much as I do.

Companies need to stay the fuck out of social issues and just make whatever is they make and STFU about anything else.

AND the alphabet community needs to stop trying to force their agenda down everyone's throat!!! This is the main issue here. Hopefully the message has been sent and received.

Wise man once said...

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

ALL People need to be mindful of that.
Dead.Solid.Perfect. 👍

Close thread.
 

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Your own??

Acceptable collateral damage?

You have a strange perspective my friend.

I have a Good friend who is gay and he hates what's going on today as much as I do.

Companies need to stay the fuck out of social issues and just make whatever is they make and STFU about anything else.

AND the alphabet community needs to stop trying to force their agenda down everyone's throat!!! This is the main issue here. Hopefully the message has been sent and received.

Wise man once said...

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

ALL People need to be mindful of that.

You need to re read her post. What she said is not what you think she said.

I do agree with your basic premise. And agree that there are casualties in culture wars. And they are not that casualties you’d hope.

Many here will cry when they are casualties. We have already seen it.
 

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You need to re read her post. What she said is not what you think she said.

I do agree with your basic premise. And agree that there are casualties in culture wars. And they are not that casualties you’d hope.

Many here will cry when they are casualties. We have already seen it.
I read it the same way RM did. I detect nothing wrong with either post, Dana’s or Joe’s.

Pretty civil.
 

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I read it the same way RM did. I detect nothing wrong with either post, Dana’s or Joe’s.

Pretty civil.

Agreed on civility.

Dana was just making the observation that very few transgenders are punished by this action, and that there is collateral damage in the form of innocent people with jobs that are affected when a boycott happens.

That is not a strange perspective, that is an astute observation.

The same thing that is going on with the writers strike. It affects far more than the writers striking. The BL execs and the Studio execs get paid either way.

I’m fine with the collateral damage from both the strike and the BL boycott. I’ve said many times we are in a culture war, and in war there are innocent casualties. There has to be pain in order to effect change.
 

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You need to re read her post. What she said is not what you think she said.

I do agree with your basic premise. And agree that there are casualties in culture wars. And they are not that casualties you’d hope.

Many here will cry when they are casualties. We have already seen it.
I actually agree with his premise also.
 

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I find it amusing that the BL apologist in here will say; "They're only down xxx, or They've simply gone from #1 to #2." Yet they are quick to blame the folks boycotting BL or all AB products as homophobic and costing folks jobs. So (you all know who you are) which is it? It's had an affect or it hasn't??

"Both sides of our mouths"
Homophobe!!!!
 

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10 days, 11 nights, paid for by your employer.
8 hour shift I presume?
Minimal duties when on shift.
Enjoy Sturgis the other 16 hours a day?
Not a bad gig if you think outside the box.

Dan'l
 

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Agreed on civility.

Dana was just making the observation that very few transgenders are punished by this action, and that there is collateral damage in the form of innocent people with jobs that are affected when a boycott happens.

That is not a strange perspective, that is an astute observation.

The same thing that is going on with the writers strike. It affects far more than the writers striking. The BL execs and the Studio execs get paid either way.

I’m fine with the collateral damage from both the strike and the BL boycott. I’ve said many times we are in a culture war, and in war there are innocent casualties. There has to be pain in order to effect change.
No one’s trying to punish any transgenders.
I could give a flying fuck who fucks who or who chops their junk off or anything else that is none of my business.
No one cares who somebody else is attracted to or who they fuck or love lap.
That’s the whole point, and that is the “strange perspective” I think?
These companies keep trying to make it my business when it is NOT my business and has NEVER been my business.
So when they insist on making it my business, I respond, and I stop buying their shit.
Punishing has nothing to do with it.
 

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No one’s trying to punish any transgenders.
I could give a flying fuck who fucks who or who chops their junk off or anything else that is none of my business.
No one cares who somebody else is attracted to or who they fuck or love lap.
That’s the whole point, and that is the “strange perspective” I think?
These companies keep trying to make it my business when it is NOT my business and has NEVER been my business.
So when they insist on making it my business, I respond, and I stop buying their shit.
Punishing has nothing to do with it.
Agreed! I think most people don’t give a shit about the lifestyles or whatever. They are pissed about the constant agenda trying to make them give a shit.
 

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No one’s trying to punish any transgenders.
I could give a flying fuck who fucks who or who chops their junk off or anything else that is none of my business.
No one cares who somebody else is attracted to or who they fuck or love lap.
That’s the whole point, and that is the “strange perspective” I think?
These companies keep trying to make it my business when it is NOT my business and has NEVER been my business.
So when they insist on making it my business, I respond, and I stop buying their shit.
Punishing has nothing to do with it.

X1000
 

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No one’s trying to punish any transgenders.
I could give a flying fuck who fucks who or who chops their junk off or anything else that is none of my business.
No one cares who somebody else is attracted to or who they fuck or love lap.
That’s the whole point, and that is the “strange perspective” I think?
These companies keep trying to make it my business when it is NOT my business and has NEVER been my business.
So when they insist on making it my business, I respond, and I stop buying their shit.
Punishing has nothing to do with it.

Agreed. I don’t think anyone cares what personal and private choices adults make, but the scenario you just described is indeed punishment when you stop buying their shit. And as such there will be collateral damage as a result.

I will say that the people and organizations attempting to make the adult private choices available and encouraged to children should indeed be punished.
 

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Agreed. I don’t think anyone cares what personal and private choices adults make, but the scenario you just described is indeed punishment when you stop buying their shit. And as such there will be collateral damage as a result.

I will say that the people and organizations attempting to make the adult private choices available and encouraged to children should indeed be punished.
Many would label that, homophobic or exclusionary. Only a tyrant would deny a child their choices

Point being, the two “sides” are now so far apart that I see no reconciliation even remotely possible
 

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So as it turns out chicks with dicks are not so popular with the straight white male working class beer drinkers, who would have thought. 😂

I’m not rocket surgeon but I’m thinking that whole tranny deal didn’t work out so hot for them 🤷‍♂️
 

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Beer drinking is in fact down. As a percentage of the overall alcoholic beverage market, beer is at its lowest % in at least 20 years. Beer production by volume is also down in last several years. Spirits consumption is up markedly in the past decade. Both Molson Coors and BUD have had a rough go with the shift of consumer consumption to spirits from beer. Wine has its own problems in attracting younger drinkers to replace the trialing off Boomers.

BUD did lasting damage. But, like you said, the employees may need to shift their job to another employer where beer sales have taken market share from Bud Light.
Sell whiskey.
 

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The American president of Budweiser has still not figured out he needed to apologize and admit the mistake - how he’s still employed is beyond my comprehension. He’s actually doubled down as if the customers are all wrong, and he’s right. Previous president said the current one should have been fired months ago for this, that’s why the consumers all said fu, and will continue to do so. Stock is trading at 50% of 6 months ago, which shows that the parent company is complicit with the actions. They aren’t coming back anytime soon - turns out, they have worthy competitors who are tickled pink with AB’s stupidity combined with their arrogance. The employees getting hurt have been treated like shit - go down the steer and get a job at the competition- they’re really busy and need the help!
 
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