Storming the beaches in Carlsbad

[DWC]

Someone should tell them about the CA boater ID. It’ll really help with some of the rules they broke.

 

[Taboma]

Why are you downplaying the calculated destruction of the US from the inside-out??

I'm not, but I find it so irritatingly rather typical RDPer that you reached for that assumption and leap on an immediate opportunity to hurl an accusation rather than simply considering what I might really be stating.
I'm an old American f*cking boomer who was raised with a bust-ass work ethic, and it sickens me knowing our youth have become spoiled, lazy and lost that same ethic.
Look around and tell me who's busting their asses daily doing the manual labor intensive more crappy jobs in this country. In the 70's the So Cal construction work force I was part of were mostly whites with some Mexicans doing some of the less technical, dirtier and more labor intensive tasks.
The vast majority of my fellow electricians were white as were the apprentices who would eventually replace us. Most of the manufacturing companies I performed work in were split similarly between the more technical and dirty labor intensive.
The last few years before I retired most construction workers and almost every apprentice I hired were Hispanic. My son's crews are about 5 to 1, Hispanics over whites.
I've watched every young person grow up in my neighborhood, and in the past 15 years I've not seen a single one mow a lawn, pull weeds, but instead, sit on their ass or flip their fucking skateboard, while some Mexican tends to their yard.

So go ahead, toss all the blame on Biden, or the other fucking bleeding heart liberals, I curse them no less.
In truth, we ourselves are to blame for allowing our own younger and future generations to become Complacent, spoiled, and generally lazy. As a country we've lost that ethic that was able to create so many amazing feats and be a world wide force to reckon with. We ourselves opened the door by presenting opportunity and there's no wall or moat that's going to close it.
I think the root of the problem is a repeat of a disease that plagued and caused the downfall of many nations before our own.

So I'm now forced to inquire, why are you downplaying where the blame really lies and what we ourselves have created ???

 

[Taboma]

Is it me or do you get the feeling that Americans are so busy being fat, dumb and happy that the country is silently being over taken.

That's exactly what I was trying to point out --- we've opened this Pandora's box that no wall, machine guns or Warthogs firing enriched uranium is going to close.
We as a nation have enjoyed our cushy jobs by gladly handing off anything where one might get their hands dirty. We invited them, but canceling the invitation is proving far more challenging than we were prepared for.
In my younger days I recall a Hispanic activist loudly proclaiming the would overwhelm white American by attrition, sadly I'm watching it happen before I died.

 

[EmpirE231]

Is it me or do you get the feeling that Americans are so busy being fat, dumb and happy that the country is silently being over taken.

If you post this message as a tik tok dance or on Instagram, you might get their attention.

But you’re pretty spot on. Everyone just thinks this will get taken care of by big daddy government, so they just look the other way and act like nothing serious is happening.

 

[Singleton]

Ask him if local leo's even respond anymore like they used to.

They were looking for the folks that were not picked up by the vehicle and were also looking for the vehicle (last seen on the 78). The village was busy Saturday night with a ton of folk walking around until the heavier rain hit. They are assuming the folks not picked up, headed towards the barrio area of Carlsbad.

 

[Gelcoater]

I'm not, but I find it so irritatingly rather typical RDPer that you reached for that assumption and leap on an immediate opportunity to hurl an accusation rather than simply considering what I might really be stating.
I'm an old American f*cking boomer who was raised with a bust-ass work ethic, and it sickens me knowing our youth have become spoiled, lazy and lost that same ethic.
Look around and tell me who's busting their asses daily doing the manual labor intensive more crappy jobs in this country. In the 70's the So Cal construction work force I was part of were mostly whites with some Mexicans doing some of the less technical, dirtier and more labor intensive tasks.
The vast majority of my fellow electricians were white as were the apprentices who would eventually replace us. Most of the manufacturing companies I performed work in were split similarly between the more technical and dirty labor intensive.
The last few years before I retired most construction workers and almost every apprentice I hired were Hispanic. My son's crews are about 5 to 1, Hispanics over whites.
I've watched every young person grow up in my neighborhood, and in the past 15 years I've not seen a single one mow a lawn, pull weeds, but instead, sit on their ass or flip their fucking skateboard, while some Mexican tends to their yard.

So go ahead, toss all the blame on Biden, or the other fucking bleeding heart liberals, I curse them no less.
In truth, we ourselves are to blame for allowing our own younger and future generations to become Complacent, spoiled, and generally lazy. As a country we've lost that ethic that was able to create so many amazing feats and be a world wide force to reckon with. We ourselves opened the door by presenting opportunity and there's no wall or moat that's going to close it.
I think the root of the problem is a repeat of a disease that plagued and caused the downfall of many nations before our own.

So I'm now forced to inquire, why are you downplaying where the blame really lies and what we ourselves have created ???

That's exactly what I was trying to point out --- we've opened this Pandora's box that no wall, machine guns or Warthogs firing enriched uranium is going to close.
We as a nation have enjoyed our cushy jobs by gladly handing off anything where one might get their hands dirty. We invited them, but canceling the invitation is proving far more challenging than we were prepared for.
In my younger days I recall a Hispanic activist loudly proclaiming the would overwhelm white American by attrition, sadly I'm watching it happen before I died.

Re-read the last part of both your posts.

Without trying to sound like arguing I’d point out (if I recall correctly) you are about the same age my dad was.
He was non union finish carpenter in the early 70s and made a decent living.
Enough to buy a new house at the end of 73 and early 74, and a new C-10 for work.

He enjoyed his job, and was good at it.
He could build anything out of wood.
I got not one of those genes

He lost his job several times, not because of him. Because some Mexican was willing to do the work for less than half his wage, to deliver about half the quality. Which to the bean counters was a win.
He eventually moved on to tilt ups and concrete work.

He always said don’t be mad at a guy that came here to work and feed his family. Be mad at the guy that fired you to hire him.
He wouldn’t have been half as irritated if the boss just told him I don’t like you, get off my job site.

Long and the short of this is he didn’t lose his ethics, he lost to greed and cheap labor.
The only difference between then and now is back then La Migra would come and raid worksites and today they are escorting them across to our side of the border.

 

[Badchoices03]

I counted 16 illegal aliens in that tiny boat.



Reminds me of the family of 16 that rent one pwc and tear ass up and down the river for the few hours they have it.

That can't be, that boat can only legally carry 10 passengers, and I also didnt see any lifevests...

 

[Taboma]

Re-read the last part of both your posts.

Without trying to sound like arguing I’d point out (if I recall correctly) you are about the same age my dad was.
He was non union finish carpenter in the early 70s and made a decent living.
Enough to buy a new house at the end of 73 and early 74, and a new C-10 for work.

He enjoyed his job, and was good at it.
He could build anything out of wood.
I got not one of those genes

He lost his job several times, not because of him. Because some Mexican was willing to do the work for less than half his wage, to deliver about half the quality. Which to the bean counters was a win.
He eventually moved on to tilt ups and concrete work.

He always said don’t be mad at a guy that came here to work and feed his family. Be mad at the guy that fired you to hire him.
He wouldn’t have been half as irritated if the boss just told him I don’t like you, get off my job site.

Long and the short of this is he didn’t lose his ethics, he lost to greed and cheap labor.
The only difference between then and now is back then La Migra would come and raid worksites and today they are escorting them across to our side of the border.

No I'm sorry I don't blame Hispanics when my older neighbors ALLOW their kids to fuck off while daddy works. I'm certainly not saying what happened to your father wasn't happening, but my son isn't hiring Hispanics because they work for less, nor was I before I retired.
He's hiring the ones who have taken the initiative to enroll in a technical apprenticeship, and apply for the jobs my son's contracting business requires and they're not white.

 

[C-Ya]

I hope the owner of the stolen boat gets his boat back……….

You guys should see Florida! The immigrant beach landing was invented here!

 

[badgas]

Word on the jobsites is that the going rate is about 8K USD per head they have to pay to get here with some type of coyote type assistance.....

I have heard $15K

 

[badgas]

Is it me or do you get the feeling that Americans are so busy being fat, dumb and happy that the country is silently being over taken.

This

Try to hire someone who grew up here to work a labor intensive job. If they show up everyday and don't bring out a cell phone and Vape 87 times per day you have hit the jackpot.

Sad but TRUE

 

[DUN]

I'm not, but I find it so irritatingly rather typical RDPer that you reached for that assumption and leap on an immediate opportunity to hurl an accusation rather than simply considering what I might really be stating.
I'm an old American f*cking boomer who was raised with a bust-ass work ethic, and it sickens me knowing our youth have become spoiled, lazy and lost that same ethic.
Look around and tell me who's busting their asses daily doing the manual labor intensive more crappy jobs in this country. In the 70's the So Cal construction work force I was part of were mostly whites with some Mexicans doing some of the less technical, dirtier and more labor intensive tasks.
The vast majority of my fellow electricians were white as were the apprentices who would eventually replace us. Most of the manufacturing companies I performed work in were split similarly between the more technical and dirty labor intensive.
The last few years before I retired most construction workers and almost every apprentice I hired were Hispanic. My son's crews are about 5 to 1, Hispanics over whites.
I've watched every young person grow up in my neighborhood, and in the past 15 years I've not seen a single one mow a lawn, pull weeds, but instead, sit on their ass or flip their fucking skateboard, while some Mexican tends to their yard.

So go ahead, toss all the blame on Biden, or the other fucking bleeding heart liberals, I curse them no less.
In truth, we ourselves are to blame for allowing our own younger and future generations to become Complacent, spoiled, and generally lazy. As a country we've lost that ethic that was able to create so many amazing feats and be a world wide force to reckon with. We ourselves opened the door by presenting opportunity and there's no wall or moat that's going to close it.
I think the root of the problem is a repeat of a disease that plagued and caused the downfall of many nations before our own.

So I'm now forced to inquire, why are you downplaying where the blame really lies and what we ourselves have created ???

The current immigration issue isn't Mexicans looking for work like it's been in the past. It's the entire world.. 8M+ a year with the majority coming in like it's the gold rush but instead of panning for gold, they expect free shit. Not to mention the Chinese and Mid-Easterners with God knows what intentions.

During Obama's admin, they called 3500 illegal crossings a day a major crisis. We dwarf those numbers every single day.

 

[Gelcoater]

Things sure have changed.

 

[Taboma]

The current immigration issue isn't Mexicans looking for work like it's been in the past. It's the entire world.. 8M+ a year with the majority coming in like it's the gold rush but instead of panning for gold, they expect free shit. Not to mention the Chinese and Mid-Easterners with God knows what intentions.

During Obama's admin, they called 3500 illegal crossings a day a major crisis. We dwarf those numbers every single day.

And you seriously don't think I realize this ?
You don't think I've watched this plague evolve and multiply since the late 60's ?
Sure, OK, you're right, it's 100% Biden's fault.

American's parents are teaching their youth they're to good to get sweaty and dirty, instead let some uneducated dumb-shmuck do the shit work. At the same time, we're all looking to save a buck at the store along with the plentiful number of greedy business owner's and shareholders wanting to make more bank. All of this resulting in taking the easy solution of hiring the cheapest labor --- Well that opened the box.

OK you win, none of that was contributory, it's all Biden.

I think this is just the current evolution of a box that was opened over 50 years ago and now we act surprised we can't just simply close the lid.

I'd personally vote a resounding "YES" to establishing a "Dead Man's Zone "around this entire country, Air, water and land. Then kill any bastard that ignores the warnings and crosses into it. No Exceptions, men, women and children, kill each and every one of them.
By the way, yes, I do have a resume reflecting having prior job experience.

Now that will send a message I'd enjoy watching on the evening news, talk about a 'Feel good moment', what a rush.
I somehow doubt that there's a majority of Americans who would agree with me however.

But I'm also willing to admit WE ARE ALL to blame, Biden's just a dumb-ass using leniency to prolong his pathetic political existence so another narcissistic personality who's worst fear is being rendered obscure and forgotten, threatens his throne.

All of this bullshit is the one and only thing that makes me thankful I'm fucking old.

 

[DUN]

And you seriously don't think I realize this ?
You don't think I've watched this plague evolve and multiply since the late 60's ?
Sure, OK, you're right, it's 100% Biden's fault.

American's parents are teaching their youth they're to good to get sweaty and dirty, instead let some uneducated dumb-shmuck do the shit work. At the same time, we're all looking to save a buck at the store along with the plentiful number of greedy business owner's and shareholders wanting to make more bank. All of this resulting in taking the easy solution of hiring the cheapest labor --- Well that opened the box.

OK you win, none of that was contributory, it's all Biden.

I think this is just the current evolution of a box that was opened over 50 years ago and now we act surprised we can't just simply close the lid.

I'd personally vote a resounding "YES" to establishing a "Dead Man's Zone "around this entire country, Air, water and land. Then kill any bastard that ignores the warnings and crosses into it. No Exceptions, men, women and children, kill each and every one of them.
By the way, yes, I do have a resume reflecting having prior job experience.

Now that will send a message I'd enjoy watching on the evening news, talk about a 'Feel good moment', what a rush.
I somehow doubt that there's a majority of Americans who would agree with me however.

But I'm also willing to admit WE ARE ALL to blame, Biden's just a dumb-ass using leniency to prolong his pathetic political existence so another narcissistic personality who's worst fear is being rendered obscure and forgotten, threatens his throne.

All of this bullshit is the one and only thing that makes me thankful I'm fucking old.

No disagreement here.

Originally, you posted saying something along the lines of "atleast they'll work unlike the American youth" with a laugh emoji.

You can understand how that can be conceived as downplaying the CURRENT issue.

I'm not trying to make an old man's blood pressure spike on this beautiful Monday morning.

 

[monkeyswrench]

@Taboma , I feel you're fairly accurate with the current trades outlook. Pops was "Mexican"...some "cracker" in that line, as our last name isn't. He was born in Texas though, so not an import. When he started roofing, it was probably less than half Mexicans on the roof. By the time he retired, hardly a white guy to be found in commercial stuff. Being a half-breed, to me it was just what non-school people did, find a trade.
(Looking back, as a roofer I envied electricians and HVAC guys. Clean clothes and trucks, and usually something stable to walk on.)

My "trades" weren't chosen. Roofing was a way to pay bills, and mechanical stuff was needed to get to work, and later to keep equipment running.

I have two sons that will enter the workforce, to some extent. One is really thinking he'd like ironwork. He likes the idea of physical labor more than the idea of college. The other, well, he wants to work, but there are some difficulties he has to overcome to get there. We'll have to wait and see.

Many guys my age were told by their fathers that they were better than the jobs their fathers had. The real problem, some of them listened. I didn't. (Big shock) My brother did, and always fancied himself "better" than others. There will always be some kids, of any background, that will choose to labor over study. The problem is the parents telling them they are too good for it.

Pops tried to dissuade me from what I did. Honestly, it's the one time ignoring his advice that things worked out better. He never said it, never said much actually, but I could tell he was pretty happy with what I did.

 

[jetboatperformance]

IF they had a Jet Bote they would have gotten further up the sand and not have to get their feet wet ....

 

[Taboma]

No disagreement here.

Originally, you posted saying something along the lines of "atleast they'll work unlike the American youth" with a laugh emoji.

You can understand how that can be conceived as downplaying the CURRENT issue.

I'm not trying to make an old man's blood pressure spike on this beautiful Monday morning.

You kidding me ? BP spike, hell, I gotz morning wood just taking a jungle walk down memory lane and recalling that very special gratification of being on the sending end of a sweet 50 cal. Oh baby, Oh sweet baby.
America's youth are a bunch of lazy bastards we all created following the dream of giving them a better life than the indentured servitude many of us boomers grew up in.
I actually had an extremely intelligent young neighbor teen, who now heads up an engineering department, tell me, the reason he was dicking around on his motorcycle while his father busted his ass doing yard work, was, " It's not MY HOUSE" ---- I was stunned.
Had I even entertained that as a thought during my youth and I'd have been sent to Juvey for being "Incorrigible".

 

[jetboatperformance]

My SIL ran a tackle store on the ramp at Mission bay we could sit behind on a patio and watch interdictions for various incoming craft (fishing and drugs violations ) so How does an overloaded "fast boat" cruising from TJ slip thru the cracks I wonder

 

[AZLineman]

Where the hell is the Coast Guard? Put that gun on the front deck to use. The fact that they're not at least stopping them, detaining and searching them for specific DHS sensitive Items/identification is beyond me.

 

[Taboma]

My SIL ran a tackle store on the ramp at Mission bay we could sit behind on a patio and watch interdictions for various incoming craft (fishing and drugs violations ) so How does an overloaded "fast boat" cruising from TJ slip thru the cracks I wonder

I dunno, we boated off the San Diego and So Cal coast in various types of boat, including numerous trips returning from fishing mexican waters for 20 years and were never boarded offshore. We were boarded once entering Mission Bay, but that was by Fish and Game.
I do know there's eyes in the sky watching, but that was more for drug intervention.

I know that you know it's all about priorities and who gets the budget dollars. Apparently, Border Patrol and alien intervention is way down the list.

 

[02HoWaRd26]

 

[dezrtracer]

Someone should tell them about the CA boater ID. It’ll really help with some of the rules they broke.

They don't need one if it's a rental ....

 

[rivrrts429]

I don’t disagree entirely with @Taboma but the labor issues is slightly more complicated in my opinion.

In the 60’s & 70’s it was a big deal to know someone that was in college or recently graduated. Basically it was much more rare. Today everyone goes to college. It’s actually rare if they don’t it seems.

Americans have chosen to work using their brains rather than their hands. Boomers have driven this behavior as they didn’t want their children doing back breaking work, I don’t blame them. Parents want more for their children than they had.

Less and less people are entering the trades and those that do go into the trades are typically of a lower capacity individual.

Mike Rowe has made it a priority to point this out and speak about it. It’s a real issue that only exacerbates our border crisis. We’ve created a void in the labor force that can be filled by immigrants. Take for instance the trucking industry. It’s dominated now my Indian and Middle Eastern immigrants.

I think the challenge is more indicative of an Octopus with multiple tentacles that create the overall problem.

 

[DWC]

They don't need one if it's a rental ....

Or stolen.

 

[Taboma]

I don’t disagree entirely with @Taboma but the labor issues is slightly more complicated in my opinion.

In the 60’s & 70’s it was a big deal to know someone that was in college or recently graduated. Basically it was much more rare. Today everyone goes to college. It’s actually rare if they don’t it seems.

Americans have chosen to work using their brains rather than their hands. Boomers have driven this behavior as they didn’t want their children doing back breaking work, I don’t blame them. Parents want more for their children than they had.

Less and less people are entering the trades and those that do go into the trades are typically of a lower capacity individual.

Mike Rowe has made it a priority to point this out and speak about it. It’s a real issue that only exacerbates our border crisis. We’ve created a void in the labor force that can be filled by immigrants. Take for instance the trucking industry. It’s dominated now my Indian and Middle Eastern immigrants.

I think the challenge is more indicative of an Octopus with multiple tentacles that create the overall problem.

I agree with the issue being multi-faceted, but I take exception to your use of the term "Lower Capacity". I believe it overlooks the obvious, that many "Test Takers" proudly displaying their completely useless degrees are dumber than rocks with zero mechanical ability and essentially equally as useless to the society in which they exist.

A young man with the highest Mensa Confirmed IQ score I've ever met and had the pleasure of calling a friend, lived alone on an old small sailboat, had a beautiful and almost equally intelligent girlfriend, and supported himself daily, by donning diving gear and cleaning boat bottoms.
Was he " Lower Capacity" by your definition ?

What bothers me is how this Video and Cell Phone Generation will only blossom as they start berthing their own offspring, not only perpetuating the behavior, but in all likely hood causing it to devolve even further.

During my military service in Germany in 1973, I observed a similar cycle of German society importing middle eastern and northern African cheap labor to perform the less desirable and more labor intensive jobs for pennies on the dollar.
They're currently suffering similar consequences as are we.
I greatly preferred this Nation when we were apparently lower capacity but able to derive pleasure and gratification from something as mundane as yard work and garnered immense pleasure from imagining, creating and using our hands along with manually operated tools to bring those creations to reality.
I find no envy for modern generations who's only talent is to punch buttons and observe a machine work.

 

[rivrrts429]

I agree with the issue being multi-faceted, but I take exception to your use of the term "Lower Capacity". I believe it overlooks the obvious, that many "Test Takers" proudly displaying their completely useless degrees are dumber than rocks with zero mechanical ability and essentially equally as useless to the society in which they exist.

A young man with the highest Mensa Confirmed IQ score I've ever met and had the pleasure of calling a friend, lived alone on an old small sailboat, had a beautiful and almost equally intelligent girlfriend, and supported himself daily, by donning diving gear and cleaning boat bottoms.
Was he " Lower Capacity" by your definition ?

What bothers me is how this Video and Cell Phone Generation will only blossom as they start berthing their own offspring, not only perpetuating the behavior, but in all likely hood causing it to devolve even further.

During my military service in Germany in 1973, I observed a similar cycle of German society importing middle eastern and northern African cheap labor to perform the less desirable and more labor intensive jobs for pennies on the dollar.
They're currently suffering similar consequences as are we.
I greatly preferred this Nation when we were apparently lower capacity but able to derive pleasure and gratification from something as mundane as yard work and garnered immense pleasure from imagining, creating and using our hands along with manually operated tools to bring those creations to reality.
I find no envy for modern generations who's only talent is to punch buttons and observe a machine work.

Lower capacity probably isn’t the best use of terms but I interview them routinely. I’ve got no accurate data to quantify my assessment but I’m probably interviewing, or sitting in on interviews, about a dozen times before you find someone that might be a potential candidate for a job description that is only a few lines, it’s not difficult stuff.

We are in agreement and you articulated the issue well.

 

[Taboma]

Lower capacity probably isn’t the best use of terms but I interview them routinely. I’ve got no accurate data to quantify my assessment but I’m probably interviewing, or sitting in on interviews, about a dozen times before you find someone that might be a potential candidate for a job description that is only a few lines, it’s not difficult stuff.

We are in agreement and you articulated the issue well.

You must have a lot of knots on your poor forehead and a heavily indented favorite banging wall.
I have no doubt this experience provides an occasional enlightened moment, but more often an unfortunately depressing window on that candidate pool demographic.
No doubt as a building trade contractor, most of my applicants were I'm sure were, well, different.

I can say with a high degree of confidence, during the later years in my chosen sparky trade, I found myself forced to provide real-life OJT to a host of freshly hatched "Degree Holders".
Sure they'd arrived on site, loaded up with the latest scheduling and project management software from their Construction Trades Management classes.
They also that didn't have a f*cking clue how a project should evolve but doggone it --- if their schedule called for five trades to occupy the same space at the same time, then so be it.

You're extremely fortunate you've found an amazing method of stress release with your whole hearted commitment to UTV racing.

 

[SKIDMARC]

Here is a thought, from what I'm reading in this thread, these immigrants are paying a guy between 8-15k to get them into the country illegally. Its obvious our government cant or wont stop them. So why not just make it easier for them to get in legally, charge them 7K-8K per person. Its cheaper than the guys sneaking them in, they would be here legally and the US gets the cash flow?

 

[DUN]

Here is a thought, from what I'm reading in this thread, these immigrants are paying a guy between 8-15k to get them into the country illegally. Its obvious our government cant or wont stop them. So why not just make it easier for them to get in legally, charge them 7K-8K per person. Its cheaper than the guys sneaking them in, they would be here legally and the US gets the cash flow?

It's not them simply paying for the ride. This podcast really covers the bases well. Long but extremely informative from a guy on the frontlines for decades.

 

[hallett21]

Lol. Hopefully everyone can laugh and lighten up for a min.

Lee Dumond on Instagram: "This still cracks me up every time 😂"

24K likes, 177 comments - bustedknucklewoodworksApril 7, 2024 on : "This still cracks me up every time 😂".

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[Ace]

Sign on PCH when I lived in Carlsbad and now it makes sense!

 

[Taboma]

Sign on PCH when I lived in Carlsbad and now it makes sense!

30 years ago that same sign just south of the I-5 border check station @ Camp Pendleton was my 0-Dark-5:30 AM reality several days a week driving from inland San Diego to and other OC Jobsites.
Doing 75mph and suddenly there'd be three or four that would suddenly appear in your headlights out of the darkness, running like hell right across your lanes. So it became 2nd nature that as I'd approach that "Drop-Off" area, I'd already have a mental image of where any other cars were around me, so I'd know which lane to jog into.
Their SOP was, some were more sophisticated, they'd wait at the NB rest stop and have scouts relay when the Border Check was closed or operational. But others relied on a visual, and once the mule spotted they were stopping and checking, they'd quickly pullover and the occupants would scatter, some deciding to head across 8 lanes and make for the beach ---- many didn't make it, hence the signs.

I'd find myself pondering the question ----- If I hit one of these illegal assholes, would I even bother to stop ????
I was leaning towards, NO-F*ck Em, NO.
Thankfully I never had to test my resolve.

I would be inclined to consider that in regards to San Diego coastal PCH, it also might make since that it's crossed by hoards of pedestrians daily due to it's proximity to the beach and or the various shops.
Most make it safely, not all do, and some suffer an encounter of the fatale kind crossing the train tracks as well.