State of the Union Address

[TeamGreene]

When President Obama took office, the American economy was in a death spiral: the worst economic crisis in 60 years, ongoing wars in two foreign countries costing Americans trillions of dollars, the lives of 3,000 American soldiers, 10,000 disabled veterans and up to 100,000 non-combatant deaths; a huge budget deficit, and the colossal, self-induced crash of the financial services sector.

Today, the president is accused of a lack of focus in foreign policy. Yet his clear policy resulted in the ending of lengthy wars in two Muslim countries, in favor of opting to use our military resources to equip, train and provide support for indigenous military forces in the two countries to assume the responsibility for defense of their homelands. The president has opted instead to use U.S. airpower and unmanned drones to efficiently eliminate extremist jihadist and Taliban leaders, with much-reduced loss of lives of innocent civilians.

The president?s economic policy (as much as he could get the Congress to pass) has resulted in a revitalized, profitable U.S. automobile industry; revitalized, accelerating housing markets; millions of new jobs; the unemployment rate reduced to pre-2008 levels to a near-normal 5.9 percent, and a new record-high stock market, reflecting dramatic increases in profits by American businesses. How does this equate to the charge of allegedly failed economic policies?

Lets take a little trip down memory lane alllllll the way back to 2005/6 when unemployment rate was +- 5% and the libs were banging on GWB about a jobless recovery! What a joke.

 

[Racey]

[video=youtube;eopSPCzJk4U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eopSPCzJk4U[/video]

 

[RodnJen]

Nice hair Mr. Paul.

He makes some good points, too bad so few are listening. He loses me on term limits, flat tax and his take on immigration. Yes, immigration laws need to be enforced but he stops short of holding employers accountable.

 

[Gelcoater]

Nice hair Mr. Paul.

Oh Jeeez.
Did Racey tell you to say that?

 

[Racey]

Oh Jeeez.
Did Racey tell you to say that?

I'm making my appointment to add some curls

 

[TeamGreene]

In order to hold employers accountable E Verify needs to be 100% implemented and mandatory. Get caught with illegal's on the payroll get fined.

If they can't find jobs self deportation will occur.

 

[Racey]

In order to hold employers accountable E Verify needs to be 100% implemented and mandatory. Get caught with illegal's on the payroll get fined.

If they can't find jobs self deportation will occur.

Just what we need, another government bureaucracy getting into our businesses..... :thumbsdown Another compliance nightmare, another burden shifted onto the business owner instead of onto the person breaking the law in the first place....

 

[RodnJen]

Just what we need, another government bureaucracy getting into our businesses..... :thumbsdown Another compliance nightmare, another burden shifted onto the business owner instead of onto the person breaking the law in the first place....

Unfortunately it goes both ways on this one. That's why no politician from either side will touch it.

 

[Gelcoater]

Just what we need, another government bureaucracy getting into our businesses..... :thumbsdown Another compliance nightmare, another burden shifted onto the business owner instead of onto the person breaking the law in the first place....

Isn't hiring illegals already against the law?
Seems like both parties in that scenario are breaking the law?

I often read here we have enough laws on the books and they just need to be enforced.

 

[Racey]

Isn't hiring illegals already against the law?
Seems like both parties in that scenario are breaking the law?

I often read here we have enough laws on the books and they just need to be enforced.

Right but if the guy you hire gives you a social security number, etc, how much of a burden needs to be shifted onto the employer to do investigations and background checks etc....

I understand the sentiment of the law, but it's just one more foot in the door by the government into everyone's office, i can't support that as we all now how that goes in the end, another layer of bullshit to deal with on top of just trying to run your business.

I could really care less though, i don't have any employees, and don't want any as there is already too much bullshit to deal with in regards to payroll compliance, workers comp, payroll taxes, etc, etc, to make it worth my while. I'd end up working more hours doing the accounting, billing, etc, and getting the same output, with higher expenses. And that would only be if i were to miraculously find someone competent enough to do the work i do, the way i expect it done. I might as well just higher someone to shuffle paper while i still do the work in the end