Starlink or fiber

[Joker]

We have the option of fiber optic or Starlink in lieu of suddenlink. Which is the best one of the 2

 

[racetrash]

Who's providing the fiber feed??

 

[sintax]

In theory proper fiber should beat satellite in every area, like no competition.

Fiber speeds should be gig+

Upsides of the satellite, it’s portable. So if you’re traveling, that’s nice.

 

[rivermobster]

Fiber.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Fiber. Should always be 100% consistent speeds, no impact by weather and the speeds will always be faster (or potential for up to gig) and depending on the ISP could be symmetric (or support that later). Also latency should be low single digits with very little jitter which will allow for all kinds of services such as VOIP phones and great streaming and gaming.

Starlink is great but for a fixed location it’s only getting slower as more people join, the weather can screw with it and at some point if Elon loses interest it will fall out of the sky in like a year. Latency with Starlink is still decent but not as good as fiber.

 

[Joker]

Who's providing the fiber feed??

Mohave valley electric

 

[Boat 405]

Starlink. Love it. Never going back

 

[paradise]

+1 for fiber being the better choice for now. Starlink is fantastic but fiber should be more stable, less expensive and faster.

 

[Singleton]

In Havasu, Starlink. Fiber should be better, but it is new in Havasu, so performance and quality are questionable

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Starlink. Love it. Never going back

Don’t get me wrong, Starlink is fabulous compared to HughesNet and viasat, and if your terrestrial options are dialup or dsl.

But if your terrestrial options are cable or fiber you will get far cheaper and better performing (consistently) service with cable or fiber. Though given the choice of cable or fiber always go fiber.

I have charter at home and Starlink in Havasu springs. When I first got Starlink (like March this year) it was 200/20 equivalent to my spectrum cable internet. I ran another Speedtest when I was just out there a couple weeks ago in October and Starlink is now like 100/10 and I’m noticing the latency is a little higher. Why? System capacity is getting loaded from all the signups and the sats can only feed so many ground terminals. It’s only going to get worse until Starlink can approach their desired constellation size of 30k satellites and that is years away.

 

[yuppie]

In Havasu, Starlink. Fiber should be better, but it is new in Havasu, so performance and quality are questionable

Who provides fiber in Havasu? I'm looking in the north side of town around the Desert Hills area.

 

[sintax]

Who provides fiber in Havasu? I'm looking in the north side of town around the Desert Hills area.

Its a company called Allo, I dont think they have anything up and running yet, but they're working on a section of town in the south end by the golf course. Up in the north end, you're stuck with the usual suspects for the time being.

 

[GOTTBoat]

Who provides fiber in Havasu? I'm looking in the north side of town around the Desert Hills area.

Saw crew trenching and laying fiber lake side of 95 south of Home Depot yesterday so at least they are working on it.

 

[was thatguy]

Saw crew trenching and laying fiber lake side of 95 south of Home Depot yesterday so at least they are working on it.

Yeah they’ve been at it for weeks.

 

[CarolynandBob]

Fiber

Got it last year and speeds are great. 250 mb for $60 a month. Could get 1g for $80 but do not need it yet.

 

[Racey]

Yeah if you have the option of land fiber currently it will beat starlink in cost and performance most likely.

Starlink is excellent when you have limited options

 

[mbrown2]

Fiber.... starlink is only option if you don't have cable or fiber...meaning remote... fiber is gonna be more consistent, stable and faster 99.9% of the time...

 

[yuppie]

Fiber

Got it last year and speeds are great. 250 mb for $60 a month. Could get 1g for $80 but do not need it yet.

Is your provider Allo?

 

[sintax]

Saw crew trenching and laying fiber lake side of 95 south of Home Depot yesterday so at least they are working on it.

Makes me wonder where they’re getting tied in at. Not 100% sure where all the colos are in the area.

 

[mjc]

Makes me wonder where they’re getting tied in at. Not 100% sure where all the colos are in the area.

I think I heard they have to go all they way to the 40.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Fiber

Got it last year and speeds are great. 250 mb for $60 a month. Could get 1g for $80 but do not need it yet.

I have 1g in cave creek....no real issues. It's "fast as fuck boy"

In laws have the mobile starling in WA for the cabin, and their "boat." They said that speed fluctuates quite a bit. We're heading there for a month shortly and I work from home so that was a concern.

 

[socal0487]

Anyone try Verizon 5G Home Internet out in Havasu?

 

[CarolynandBob]

Is your provider Allo?

No

 

[Boat 405]

Anyone try Verizon 5G Home Internet out in Havasu?

I keep looking, but it says not available in my area. I'm on the southside of town.

 

[socal0487]

I keep looking, but it says not available in my area. I'm on the southside of town.

We’re central and it’s available. I just ordered it so we’ll see how it works

 

[Racey]

I think I heard they have to go all they way to the 40.

Most of the main fiber links across the nation run with the RR tracks as it's almost all federal patent deed land with no interruption end to end. It was originally where all the telegraph wires ran, which then became phone (ATT), etc....

So running to the 40 would make sense if they did indeed need a new backbone, as the RR track is right there north of the 40.

 

[yuppie]

Just called Allo, they're putting in fiber around March/April 2023. $75/mo 500Mbps up/down, $100/mo 1Gbps up/down.

Until then, I'll need standard cable.

So, who's got the best (in terms of speed) cable internet near the north side of town?

 

[Singleton]

For those using Starlink for RV in Havasu, how are your speeds. Over WireFree and need a new option for the Islander

 

[SoCal_BT]

For those using Starlink for RV in Havasu, how are your speeds. Over WireFree and need a new option for the Islander

Have you figured out which one you are going with? We use WireFree at the Islander as well and it’s always worked great for us… But I’m thinking about Starlink just not sure how well it does in Havasu? If you hear anything please let me know.

 

[Singleton]

Have you figured out which one you are going with? We use WireFree at the Islander as well and it’s always worked great for us… But I’m thinking about Starlink just not sure how well it does in Havasu? If you hear anything please let me know.

Feedback from Islanders I know is Starlink has worked well for them. Since I do multiple desert trips, going with Starlink. Just have to make sure no tree is blocking your path.

 

[j21black]

Fiber - We have it completely out in the sticks - Not sure how we were lucky enough to get it, but it came in about a year ago.

I considered getting starlink so I could take it with me to the racetrack, but it had some rain fade, and was slower to start loading by a lot when I piggyback off a guy that had it.

I will still likely buy it for RV only as I can switch it on and off when not it use.

 

[SoCal_BT]

Feedback from Islanders I know is Starlink has worked well for them. Since I do multiple desert trips, going with Starlink. Just have to make sure no tree is blocking your path.

Exactly why we were thinking about it for our desert trips as well. We do have have a couple trees behind us. It would be south of us. It doesn’t interfere with WireFree curious if would block Starlink. We are in space 132 if that helps? Lol

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

You can make a Starlink account and download their app. The app has a dish placement guide that can check for good signal or interference without having the equipment up front.

The Starlink dish is more up facing and up-angle facing than you think and does just fine mounted to the fascia of the roof eve between two equally high homes (in the springs at least).

 

[SoCal_BT]

You can make a Starlink account and download their app. The app has a dish placement guide that can check for good signal or interference without having the equipment up front.

The Starlink dish is more up facing and up-angle facing than you think and does just fine mounted to the fascia of the roof eve between two equally high homes (in the springs at least).

How is it working for you at the springs? We are looking for it to run our TVs and a coupe of iPads for the kids…

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

How is it working for you at the springs? We are looking for it to run our TVs and a coupe of iPads for the kids…

Works great. We kicked HughesNet to the curb.

My only word of warning is Starlink is very popular in the area now and that increase in users has dropped the speeds by about half or so. When I installed it, I was getting better than 200Mbps. About 6 months later I was getting 100Mbps. I think the last time I checked it was down to like 80 or so.

It’s important to note that the speed isn’t as critical as the latency (“wait time”) which with Starlink is about as good as terrestrial cable service, about 10ms or less. Compare that to HughesNet where latency approaches hundreds if not thousand milliseconds and their stupid data cap. Starlink has implemented a data cap but I think they set it at 1 TB cap which isn’t an issue, not to mention the cap is only in effect from 7am to 11pm.

We have one smart tv and I can stream just about anything as well as I do at home, and everyone’s iPads and cell phones are nice and snappy surfing the internet (in fact it’s the only thing making them usable, the cell service sucks).

We won’t go back to HughesNet.

 

[SoCal_BT]

Works great. We kicked HughesNet to the curb.

My only word of warning is Starlink is very popular in the area now and that increase in users has dropped the speeds by about half or so. When I installed it, I was getting better than 200Mbps. About 6 months later I was getting 100Mbps. I think the last time I checked it was down to like 80 or so.

It’s important to note that the speed isn’t as critical as the latency (“wait time”) which with Starlink is about as good as terrestrial cable service, about 10ms or less. Compare that to HughesNet where latency approaches hundreds if not thousand milliseconds and their stupid data cap. Starlink has implemented a data cap but I think they set it at 1 TB cap which isn’t an issue, not to mention the cap is only in effect from 7am to 11pm.

We have one smart tv and I can stream just about anything as well as I do at home, and everyone’s iPads and cell phones are nice and snappy surfing the internet (in fact it’s the only thing making them usable, the cell service sucks).

We won’t go back to HughesNet.

Thank you for all of this! I main concern was streaming my YouTube TV and didn’t want the constant lag when watching it. WireFree has been great but we can’t take it with us when we camp in other places after we leave the Islander which is the reason we are interested in Starlink. Before dropping that $499 fee I wanted to make sure it was worth it.

 

[WhatExit?]

Starlink raised rates for RV and rebranded it as Starlink Roam...

Almost a year after the service launched, SpaceX acknowledged that people used it less for RVs and more for other scenarios. We guess that's why it rebranded the service as Starlink Roam, emphasizing its most important feature. It also added a global roaming feature for people who frequently jump from one continent to another, although they have to cough up more money, $200 per month. For those that do not cross the continent boundaries on a regular basis, the basic Roam plan is ok, at $150 per month. This is still $15 more than the Starlink for RVs cost before.

Of course, global roaming or not, users still need to carry the cumbersome satellite dish wherever they need to connect. Regardless of the plan, they could opt for either the Portable kit for $599 or the Mobile kit comprising a High-Performance antenna for $2,500. The latter is the only one SpaceX recommends for use on moving vehicles, so choose wisely. Although the Portable kit works on moving vehicles, you risk voiding the warranty. The antenna features positioning motors that might get overloaded while in motion. The Mobile antenna does not have moving parts.

Starlink Roam is still subject to limitations compared to the Residential plan. SpaceX caps the connection to a maximum of 50 Mbps, half the speed of residential users. Roam users also don't have priority access, meaning they get whatever bandwidth is left after priority users are taken care of. On the plus side, Roam users can connect even in areas without ground stations, although latency can get quite high in these regions.

 

[WhatExit?]

Someone on RDP previously mentioned that a new "dish" would be available and here it is...

And...The Starlink form factor evolution is not limited to the smaller dish. The company is preparing the release of a new user terminal. SpaceX launched its Starlink satellite internet service in late 2020 and, since then, has already released several different versions of its user terminals.

Starlink News: An exciting update for RVers

SpaceX plans a Starlink evolution with its application to the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to introduce a new smaller dish for Starlink subscrib

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