Speed UTV take 3

sandshark1 · Jul 19, 2023

rivermobster said:
Absolutely not.

Once a stock/factory tune makes the grade, it's illegal in CA to modify that tune.

There used to be CA legal tunes, but, they could ONLY alter the WOT throttle performance. Part throttle and idle were not to be touched.

Now IF Speed had BOTH tunes certified as legal in CA, then life is good!

Lots of unanswered questions here.

I think they are allowed to change safety parameters and not have to worry about CARB. Don't matter as they will have to get the 2024 CARB certification going soon.

Santee_Native · Jul 19, 2023

rivermobster said:
Absolutely not.

Once a stock/factory tune makes the grade, it's illegal in CA to modify that tune.

There used to be CA legal tunes, but, they could ONLY alter the WOT throttle performance. Part throttle and idle were not to be touched.

Now IF Speed had BOTH tunes certified as legal in CA, then life is good!

Lots of unanswered questions here.

Looks like speed has the certification for both fuels.

rivermobster · Jul 19, 2023

sandshark1 said:
I think they are allowed to change safety parameters and not have to worry about CARB. Don't matter as they will have to get the 2024 CARB certification going soon.

I would think that as well. I doubt anything on the car would change, but lord knows what standards CARB will change for 2024.

@RiverDave

Track mode, on a car, will usually change just the suspension and transmission.

rivermobster · Jul 19, 2023

Santee_Native said:
Looks like speed has the certification for both fuels.

That's cool on the FUELS, but read the fine print, if changing the TUNE affects the exhaust emissions in Any way, all bets are off.

Who knows what the Real story here is.

rivrrts429 · Jul 19, 2023

rivermobster said:
That's cool on the FUELS, but read the fine print, if changing the TUNE affects the exhaust emissions in Any way, all bets are off.

Who knows what the Real story here is.

Banks would be out of business. His tunes are junk anyways but still…

rivermobster · Jul 19, 2023

rivrrts429 said:
Banks would be out of business. His tunes are junk anyways but still…

Oh Now you've gone and done it...

riverroyal · Jul 20, 2023

Wait wait wait...nobody knows anything about this magic key?
Not one educated person knows what it looks like? What the software needs or doesn't need? Are there real key HP numbers? They are "testing" for the speed key now?

You can't make this shit up. It was what country or state. Then shipping, when where how many on one boat or rail car from Texas, or maybe Mexico.

I must be missing something. People bought these for the biggest HP numbers. Which it clearly needs after the drag races.

'Here's your speed key, let me plug in for a few minutes and change some parameters' is all I would expect by now.

rivermobster · Jul 20, 2023

riverroyal said:
Wait wait wait...nobody knows anything about this magic key?
Not one educated person knows what it looks like? What the software needs or doesn't need? Are there real key HP numbers? They are "testing" for the speed key now?

You can't make this shit up. It was what country or state. Then shipping, when where how many on one boat or rail car from Texas, or maybe Mexico.

I must be missing something. People bought these for the biggest HP numbers. Which it clearly needs after the drag races.

'Here's your speed key, let me plug in for a few minutes and change some parameters' is all I would expect by now.

We could tell you...

But then we would have to kill you.

- RG

riverroyal · Jul 20, 2023

I'm liking a lot of things about the Speed car. But I can't get my head around business

Bpracing1127 · Jul 20, 2023

riverroyal said:
I'm liking a lot of things about the Speed car. But I can't get my head around business

its very poorley run, they have no clue how to scale

DWC · Jul 20, 2023

Cdog said:
Saw this on FB. Shop in mesa az has one for 65k. Chassis #81

Real pricey for a toy. I can see if there is a spec series to actually race at this price but a bunch a fat asses cruising around in the desert pretending to have a race car seems steep...

I'm sure my comments are about to rustle some jimmies. LOL!

I kinda like it. I’m not in for $65k, but I’ll take it for his cost

DoughBallin14 · Jul 20, 2023

Nother one! update from the mothaland of Vietnam if anyone cares.

Robby Gordon on Instagram: "Fire Hose on and its coming and I’m scared we might not be able to drink the water this fast"

3,174 likes, 199 comments - robbygordon on July 19, 2023: "Fire Hose on and its coming and I’m scared we might not be able to drink the water this fast".

www.instagram.com

riverroyal · Jul 20, 2023

DWC said:
I kinda like it. I’m not in for $65k, but I’ll take it for his cost

Give it time. At 'cost' is coming

Boatymcboatface · Jul 20, 2023

Speed “we’re building a race ready car from the factory”

Speed customers “ I’m getting a race car”

Speed “remember this is not a race car”

Cdog · Jul 20, 2023

DWC said:
I kinda like it. I’m not in for $65k, but I’ll take it for his cost

Dont get me wrong. I would love to have one. But 65k! Hell 30k is questionable to me.

rivermobster · Jul 20, 2023

DoughBallin14 said:
Nother one! update from the mothaland of Vietnam if anyone cares.

Robby Gordon on Instagram: "Fire Hose on and its coming and I’m scared we might not be able to drink the water this fast"

3,174 likes, 199 comments - robbygordon on July 19, 2023: "Fire Hose on and its coming and I’m scared we might not be able to drink the water this fast".

www.instagram.com

Ain't no one got time to watch an hour long infomercial, but...

Jezuz that dude has AGED!!!

Fucker looks older than me now! Stress is a killer.

RiverDave · Jul 20, 2023

riverroyal said:
Give it time. At 'cost' is coming

Lol no it isn’t! We r eight weeks away from these things being worth stupid money

RiverDave · Jul 20, 2023

Cdog said:
Dont get me wrong. I would love to have one. But 65k! Hell 30k is questionable to me.

You can’t buy shit for 30k

Cdog · Jul 20, 2023

RiverDave said:
You can’t buy shit for 30k

I get it. That's just what it's worth to me.

NicPaus · Jul 20, 2023

4 seater rzr turbo at sand show was $30,250 otd. I had a deposit on 1. The price shown on it was $38,800 otd. I offered 30k.

FROGMAN524 · Jul 20, 2023

Cdog said:
I get it. That's just what it's worth to me.

People spend crazy money now a days on toys. I don't understand it, but then again, everybody on the internet is a zillionaire.

EarpRider · Jul 20, 2023

FROGMAN524 said:
People spend crazy money now a days on toys. I don't understand it, but then again, everybody on the internet is a zillionaire.

It's just money.

Fishd00d · Jul 20, 2023

RiverDave said:
Lol no it isn’t! We r eight weeks away from these things being worth stupid money

I dont think so. I think it will be hard to sell these for much more than current MSRP, there are some out there right now for 5K over MSRP and NOT selling.....the UTV market is starting to get flooded again and just wait till the new Can-Am comes out next month. The day of selling any UTV for way over MSRP is gone.

Cdog · Jul 20, 2023

Fishd00d said:
I dont think so. I think it will be hard to sell these for much more than current MSRP, there are some out there right now for 5K over MSRP and NOT selling.....the UTV market is starting to get flooded again and just wait till the new Can-Am comes out next month. The day of selling any UTV for way over MSRP is gone.

What's the MSRP price?

RiverDave · Jul 20, 2023

Fishd00d said:
I dont think so. I think it will be hard to sell these for much more than current MSRP, there are some out there right now for 5K over MSRP and NOT selling.....the UTV market is starting to get flooded again and just wait till the new Can-Am comes out next month. The day of selling any UTV for way over MSRP is gone.

At current MSRP I make something like 20k per car..

I only plan on selling one and I intend to offer it for 5k over.. so I guess we will see who’s right? If it was in my hands today I’d bet I could get more than that.

Fishd00d · Jul 20, 2023

RiverDave said:
At current MSRP I make something like 20k per car..

Yes but thats YOU lol. Im saying there is no way people are going to pay 20K OVER the current MSRP

JayBreww · Jul 20, 2023

RiverDave said:
Lol no it isn’t! We r eight weeks away from these things being worth stupid money

I believe this statement was also said about a year ago when it was announced that there would be deliveries at the SSSS.
Let’s see what happens at this years SSSS in 8 weeks.

RiverDave · Jul 20, 2023

Fishd00d said:
Yes but thats YOU lol. Im saying there is no way people are going to pay 20K OVER the current MSRP

I was thinking like 5? Which puts initial cars at 25k+ profit?

Fishd00d · Jul 20, 2023

Cdog said:
What's the MSRP price?

50K for 4 seat RG version. Same as Troy Lee Pro R version.

RiverDave · Jul 20, 2023

JayBreww said:
I believe this statement was also said about a year ago when it was announced that there would be deliveries at the SSSS.
Let’s see what happens at this years SSSS in 8 weeks.

Agreed.

Fishd00d · Jul 20, 2023

RiverDave said:
I was thinking like 5? Which puts initial cars at 25k+ profit?

There are cars for sale for 55K right now that have not sold......

River Dirt 2 · Jul 20, 2023

Hmmmm

Fishd00d · Jul 20, 2023

RiverDave said:
If it was in my hands today I’d bet I could get more than that.

If my aunt had balls......hahah. Hopefully ya get it soon because the market is flooding quick!!!

rivermobster · Jul 20, 2023

RiverDave said:
Lol no it isn’t! We r eight weeks away from these things being worth stupid money

So...

What's happening in 8 weeks?

RiverDave · Jul 20, 2023

Fishd00d said:
There are cars for sale for 55K right now that have not sold......

It’s like anything though.. what are the numbers, where are they listed, what was the marketing? Most importantly what is the car?

That Carl Sykes guy I wouldn’t buy one of his unless it was at his cost.. the guy just reminds me of nails on a chalkboard..

Should he said he did sell one for some decent money to some dude..

Now that we have all seen quite a few cars in production I’d bet the values go up.. there’s no doubt there’s some gremlins they are dealing with right now or they’d be shipping but the goal line is getting closer and closer..

With any luck at all deliveries and desert season converge.

RD

RiverDave · Jul 20, 2023

rivermobster said:
So...

What's happening in 8 weeks?

Sand show and it should be getting into the start of the season.

If what he said is accurate in the video then I should have my first one somewhere in that time period.

RD

rivermobster · Jul 20, 2023

RiverDave said:
Sand show and it should be getting into the start of the season.

If what he said is accurate in the video then I should have my first one somewhere in that time period.

RD

Well I hope you're right.

pixrthis · Jul 20, 2023

RiverDave said:
You can’t buy shit for 30k

I think you can get shit for $30K. Yamahas and Hondas are even cheaper.

Fishd00d · Jul 20, 2023

RiverDave said:
Sand show and it should be getting into the start of the season.

If what he said is accurate in the video then I should have my first one somewhere in that time period.

RD

If I was you I would list your car for sale right now for MSRP (20K profit for you) and ride off into the sunset.

ZSTIV · Jul 20, 2023

Fishd00d said:
If I was you I would list your car for sale right now for MSRP (20K profit for you) and ride off into the sunset.

Thats the plan

hallett21 · Jul 20, 2023

pixrthis said:
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I think you can get shit for $30K. Yamahas and Hondas are even cheaper.

Is that with their BS ADM?

Fishd00d · Jul 20, 2023

hallett21 said:
Is that with their BS ADM?

ADM is long gone. No one is paying that shit anymore. They are back at MSRP and below now.

RiverDave · Jul 20, 2023

pixrthis said:
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I think you can get shit for $30K. Yamahas and Hondas are even cheaper.

When you go to actually buy it your aren’t gonna be 30k.. and yes I understand you can buy base models etc for less..

But if you are talking the caliber of cars that we are talking about in this thread you aren’t getting anything even used for 30.. hell my old can am is probably 50-60 right now?

RD

RiverDave · Jul 20, 2023

Fishd00d said:
ADM is long gone. No one is paying that shit anymore. They are back at MSRP and below now.

Someone just went into a dealership this week and was complaining that adm was still on there? But there’s another thread about free pit bike if you pay retail. Not sure I’m not in the market so I am not going to dealerships.

RD

sandshark1 · Jul 20, 2023

RiverDave said:
It’s like anything though.. what are the numbers, where are they listed, what was the marketing? Most importantly what is the car?

That Carl Sykes guy I wouldn’t buy one of his unless it was at his cost.. the guy just reminds me of nails on a chalkboard..

Should he said he did sell one for some decent money to some dude..

Now that we have all seen quite a few cars in production I’d bet the values go up.. there’s no doubt there’s some gremlins they are dealing with right now or they’d be shipping but the goal line is getting closer and closer..

With any luck at all deliveries and desert season converge.

RD

Did Carl even take delivery of a car yet?

Right now nothing is selling because it is too hot to take it anywhere and most are boating or vacationing. Interest will start up after the Sand Show. If Speed is showing a good flow of deliveries and has a dealers ready to go for parts and service it will make selling it easier.

RiverDave · Jul 20, 2023

sandshark1 said:
Did Carl even take delivery of a car yet?

Right now nothing is selling because it is too hot to take it anywhere and most are boating or vacationing. Interest will start up after the Sand Show. If Speed is showing a good flow of deliveries and has a dealers ready to go for parts and service it will make selling it easier.

I think he sold the car that he would have taken delivery of.. car 30 something?

27Daytona · Jul 20, 2023

1Carl said:
1k cars built and going to be seeing 100 cars a week delivered. Glamis will be full of speed UTVs soon.

How are the going to Prep & PDI over 100 cars a week in that little Havasu facility?

dirtslinger2 · Jul 20, 2023

riverroyal said:
I'm liking a lot of things about the Speed car. But I can't get my head around busine

27Daytona said:
How are the going to Prep & PDI over 100 cars a week in that little Havasu facility?

They are working on getting a shop ready Anaheim, could be the current shop, but it's sorta small, and they may be working on another location, or dealers are getting read

Bpracing1127 · Jul 20, 2023

27Daytona said:
How are the going to Prep & PDI over 100 cars a week in that little Havasu facility?

Short answer is they can’t. They can barely handle what they have now.

If it’s the current Anaheim facility that’s even smaller than havasu.

What happens when you have 1000 cars out and they need service everything from oil changes to full rebuilds from crashes ect. Who is going to work on it. They need to focus on infrastructure ? Wait I thought that was Todd’s job? Idk why but he reminds me of hunter Biden. Lol

JayBreww · Jul 21, 2023

dirtslinger2 said:
They are working on getting a shop ready Anaheim, could be the current shop, but it's sorta small, and they may be working on another location, or dealers are getting read

Didn’t RD say when he spoke with RG that he was building a plant in Havasu by the airport?

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