Speed cars hit the assembly Line

[DMF]

Same here but I really just put down a deposit for the fuck of it before the price hike. I have plenty of toys already so I’m not stressing on missing any time in the sand. It was supposed to blow away the competition 3 years ago. Now it is mostly on par. Reliability is going to make or break Speed.

I'm in the same situation. I have other toys as well so I am not missing out. I'm growing bored of the trash talking from Robby and the excuses that keep delaying any real progress and missed timelines.

 

[DMF]

I am. Not so much losing interest as I am just really bummed out. I was fine waiting years, I'm not fine with losing most of this year's riding season.

My Desert Bash poker run tickets are for sale

That sucks!

 

[DMF]

I'm sure many are. At this point what are the options? Buy another car and sell this one when you get it? Or buy another car and sell the spot?

If they come out when stated, does that keep your interest until you get yours?

I'm not sure at this point. I'm #1813 so I have a ways to go. Based on what I have seen so far, I'm not confident that once cars start coming out that production will get ramped up to produce cars any faster.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I am. Not so much losing interest as I am just really bummed out. I was fine waiting years, I'm not fine with losing most of this year's riding season.

My Desert Bash poker run tickets are for sale

I was waiting to buy them based on when the cars will come out. And looks like my RZR may sell this weekend. May have to get a loaner for a couple months

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I'm not sure at this point. I'm #1813 so I have a ways to go. Based on what I have seen so far, I'm not confident that once cars start coming out that production will get ramped up to produce cars any faster.

This is the big question I have as well. When will the 2nd factory come online, will that just shift to be the primary factory? Obviously assembly lines start slow to validate all the processes. I'm confident it will ramp up at some point, because they can't make 100-150 a month in perpetuity, they wont make any money at that pace. The question is when will they hit the accelerator.

 

[glamis0812]

agreed, make me wonder who is running the show over there? you have king Robby as CEO, lead designer, lead publicist, spokesperson, QC, sales, lead engineer. This is where a well put together management team comes in and oversees all the aspects of the car but isn't quick to jump the gun. (ETA ECT)

Robby said CEO'S lie all the time. He must be speaking from first-hand experience. I don't know another business owner, CEO, whatever that puts down competition like he does and calls out by name his customers! very unprofessional and it has me wondering what the rest of the company is like? From what I can see it's a garage shop so that is what you will get in terms of product!!

the garage shop builders might have the "best motor, chassis shocks, whatever but at the end of the day being a garage shop they can't produce enough, zero quality control, can't answer emails phone calls. *I'm not saying all these apply to Speed, but we have all seen plenty of garage shops before


just think of all the controversy to date

blown motor
broken trailing arm
Hisan badged car
missing dates
stickers peeling
doors
welds with bolts in them
missing dates again

I'm sure there is more but this is off the top of my head

before anyone say Polaris has problems. they do! everyone does but at least they address them and keep on going. they don't say your can am is a POS too. the prove it nicely by racing it and letting others race their product. can am is the same way as well.

Robby claims to have the best car but has yet to prove it anyway shape or form. With Polaris and can am they invited industry people to come drive (before public release) and provide feedback. Robby hasn't done that. To date I don't think anyone outside of speed has driven one whatsoever. We have no way of knowing if its better or not. On paper it seems to be (so was the flying car)

I was very interested early on mainly for the price point but now I am glad I didn't get one as the company is slowing becoming a laughingstock in the sxs world. Even if it's faster, I still think they are going to have major problems with it in terms of support and warranty claims etc. I maybe a buyer in 2-4 years but time will tell.

the biggest thing that would sway me over is getting out of the garage shop mentality and humble up a little bit. I'm sure I am not alone either

I think you nailed it, I almost bought a spot from a friend a year and a half ago and now I’m glad I didn’t. I wish nothing but the best for Robby and team making these cars great. Just wait until these cars get in the consumers hands and start driving crazy and breaking stuff, then there’s going to be a whole other issue getting parts when he’s still trying to get ordered cars out.

 

[DMF]

I think you nailed it, I almost bought a spot from a friend a year and a half ago and I’m glad I didn’t. I wish nothing but the best for Robby and making these cars great. Just wait until these cars get in the consumers hands and start driving crazy and breaking stuff, then there’s going to be a whole other issue getting parts when he’s still trying to get ordered cars out.

At the rate things are happening now, I'm worried about this exact scenario.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

At the rate things are happening now, I'm worried about this exact scenario.

Yea, definitely a concern. I would not go breaking your car in the first 6 months. They have said they are holding back parts for this scenario, but you know there are gonna be a few people wadding these up in the first week.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Yea, definitely a concern. I would not go breaking your car in the first 6 months. They have said they are holding back parts for this scenario, but you know there are gonna be a few people wadding these up in the first DAY.

Fixed.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Fixed.

Too bad for them. There are always a couple.

 

[MonkeyButt70]

If RG had some brass huevos (Im sure he does with the way he drives) Send one of the production cars NOW to a popular UTV outlet and have them do a unbiased shootout between all of the current comparable manufacturers cars. That way we can be done with the bench racing......

 

[LuauLounge]

Hisun has a line of UTV's. Are they similar or completely different from the Speed? Asking for a friend.......

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

If RG had some brass huevos (Im sure he does with the way he drives) Send one of the production cars NOW to a popular UTV outlet and have them do a unbiased shootout between all of the current comparable manufacturers cars. That way we can be done with the bench racing......

Honestly that can’t be far away if it is not being done right now. Would be neat to see how it stacks up.

That will not stop the bench racing though.

I’m waiting to see when Cleetus McFarland shows up on You Tube with one.. he’s had a couple built Can Ams and totaled at least 1

 

[Racer56]

I think you nailed it, I almost bought a spot from a friend a year and a half ago and I’m glad I didn’t. I wish nothing but the best for Robby and making these cars great. Just wait until these cars get in the consumers hands and start driving crazy and breaking stuff, then there’s going to be a whole other issue getting parts when he’s still trying to get ordered cars out.

Robby said that for every 10 cars that he delivers, he will have one complete car in parts available. We shall see how this plays out.

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[Racer56]

Hisun has a line of UTV's. Are they similar or completely different from the Speed? Asking for a friend.......

The only similarities is they both have 4 wheels, a steering wheel and a engine.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Robby said that for every car that he delivers, he will have one complete car in parts available. We shall see how this plays out.

I remember him saying that their initial estimates were to hold back (I don’t remember the exact figure) around 20% of parts for stock. They said they were upping that figure for cushion, but the question is when. I don’t think we will see that when cars debut. I think 3 to 6 months later it is more plausible to see parts stock up.

This was one of the risks from the beginning, and still is the biggest one in my mind.

Don’t get me wrong, I think there will be belts, filters. Etc. pretty quickly. But don’t break anything big lol.

 

[Englewood]

I personally think this will be Robbie's downfall...I can't see how he can do this at the original pricing with how much everything has gone up over the last few years. He looks like he has aged 30 years over this fiasco.

What biz has he really succeeded with?
Speed? Never seen anyone drink one.
SST? Hardly a hit. Is it even still active?

One thing I know for sure, I don't have to worry about Polaris factories and weekly live meetings for an update. LOL

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I personally think this will be Robbie's downfall...I can't see how he can do this at the original pricing with how much everything has gone up over the last few years. He looks like he has aged 30 years over this fiasco.

What biz has he really succeeded with?
Speed? Never seen anyone drink one.
SST? Hardly a hit. Is it even still active?

One thing I know for sure, I don't have to worry about Polaris factories and weekly live meetings for an update. LOL

I think we will find out.. Speed is going full steam ahead at the moment. No doubt there are major hurdles in all of this, and it was more than they bargained for but they obviously have some kind of backing financially. I would not be surprised if John Menard was not one of the silent backers.

He's not doing it all at the OG pricing, the pricing has gone up over time. There are only 1000 or so cars at the $32K price point and pricing has gone up from there. The first 3K are direct to consumer. All the others are at current MSRP sold via dealers, or direct sale. I don't think they are making great margins on the first 1K batch, but with all the markups on options, etc. I don't think they are hurting. After the first thousand they are probably making margins in the ballpark of what they would selling them through dealers.

I have never seen SPEED energy drink in a store, it might be more of a midwest and east coast deal?
SST - still a thing, they even picked up races this year.

I will say this, the guy has not been out there blowing money.. All his support trucks equipment, shop, etc. is from when he was getting corporate sponsorship money 20 years ago.

 

[JayBreww]

So best case is that the first cars may be out before Christmas . The reality of another season without a car for a lot of deposit holders is smacking them in the face again. Many will jump ship and go get a rzr or canam before Thanksgiving.

According to some, deposit holders don’t want their car delivered during the summer, so they are fine with another full year of perfecting the car before deliveries are made.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

The only similarities is they both have 4 wheels, a steering wheel and a engine.

One of which you could actually pickup today and hit the trails….the other…well maybe in a few weeks, or next month, or hell what’s another season

 

[RiverDave]

Honest question, is any of the deposit holders losing interest? I am a deposit holder and I know I am.

Depending on the number I will buy it!

 

[outboard_256]

Yea, definitely a concern. I would not go breaking your car in the first 6 months. They have said they are holding back parts for this scenario, but you know there are gonna be a few people wadding these up in the first week.

Isn't the warranty only 6 months long? I wouldn't want to break anything outside of the warranty. I think he said the shocks are going to be $3k each if you have to replace them.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Isn't the warranty only 6 months long? I wouldn't want to break anything outside of the warranty. I think he said the shocks are going to be $3k each if you have to replace them.

You can buy extended warranty coverage. Yea stock warranty is 6 months.

But it’s not like you can go buy take off parts off wrecked machines for a good price like you can with Polaris and Can Ams. Speed is the only option.

 

[RiverDave]

Robby said that for every car that he delivers, he will have one complete car in parts available. We shall see how this plays out.

I think you might have miss heard that.. I thought they were doing a 10% ratio or something..

It wouldn’t make sense to have 1:1 spare parts around..

For those worried the trail kit comes with the most common parts and you can order it with the car

 

[riverroyal]

Im noticing a shift in tides here.

 

[RiverDave]

Im noticing a shift in tides here.

Towards getting the cars? Lol

 

[Racer56]

I think you might have miss heard that.. I thought they were doing a 10% ratio or something..

It wouldn’t make sense to have 1:1 spare parts around..

For those worried the trail kit comes with the most common parts and you can order it with the car

Typo, every 10 car's there would be one complete in part's.

 

[King295]

Are we 86 pages in on the "cars hitting the assembly line" thread and still working with the first picture which was deemed not to be production cars?

 

[RiverDave]

Are we 86 pages in on the "cars hitting the assembly line" thread and still working with the first picture which was deemed not to be production cars?

Basically

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I think you might have miss heard that.. I thought they were doing a 10% ratio or something..

It wouldn’t make sense to have 1:1 spare parts around..

For those worried the trail kit comes with the most common parts and you can order it with the car

Trail kit is a must have!

 

[Roaddawg]

Honest question, is any of the deposit holders losing interest? I am a deposit holder and I know I am.

I'm not really losing interest per se but the wife is getting pissed that we are going to miss another riding season. I'm #2059 so its going to be awhile before we get the car. At this point I may consider selling it.

 

[Bpracing1127]

86 pages of mostly worthless info
186 days later from thread start (4/26/2022)
where it was said that 50 cars were being built in Texas! and assembly was starting.(imgaine that lol)

also where Carl was/is still trying to sell a spot for 80k+ lol.

almost 6 months later and we are still 5-8 weeks (per RG) more like 12-15 min until you get your cars.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

86 pages of mostly worthless info
186 days later from thread start (4/26/2022)
where it was said that 50 cars were being built in Texas! and assembly was starting.(imgaine that lol)

also where Carl was/is still trying to sell a spot for 80k+ lol.

almost 6 months later and we are still 5-8 weeks (per RG) more like 12-15 min until you get your cars.

So it seems at this point Carl was closest to being right .

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

86 pages of mostly worthless info
186 days later from thread start (4/26/2022)
where it was said that 50 cars were being built in Texas! and assembly was starting.(imgaine that lol)

also where Carl was/is still trying to sell a spot for 80k+ lol.

almost 6 months later and we are still 5-8 weeks (per RG) more like 12-15 min until you get your cars.

Kind of ironic that so called clueless huddled mass of "haters" were right in being sceptical.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Kind of ironic that so called clueless huddled mass of "haters" were right in being sceptical.

The huddled masses under the bridge went from - “You’ll never ever get the car and they stole yore money!” to “You’ll get your car later than promised.” Which was what most of us were saying all along.

Glad we all met in the middle .

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

The huddled masses under the bridge went from - “You’ll never ever get the car and they stole yore money!” to “You’ll get your car later than promised.” Which was what most of us were saying all along.

Glad we all met in the middle .

If in 8 weeks there are no car deliveries to speak of, the tide will shift back.
Have faith in the huddled mass.

 

[Bigbore500r]

I am. Not so much losing interest as I am just really bummed out. I was fine waiting years, I'm not fine with losing most of this year's riding season.

My Desert Bash poker run tickets are for sale

Time to get a temp offroad car and enjoy some seasons while Robbie QC's his nipples
....or lack thereof

 

[Angler]

I predict they will be no delivery of cars until 2023..

 

[Deckin Around]

I’m just guessing production output here… not sure if Robby has made any bs statements of production quantity estimates. If when production really gets going, they finish 50 per week around 2500/yr with no stops or delays it will take YEARS just to fill the customer preorders. Not include making dealer cars. A +3000 # will easily be mid 2024 at best.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I’m just guessing production output here… not sure if Robby has made any bs statements of production quantity estimates. If when production really gets going, they finish 50 per week around 2500/yr with no stops or delays it will take YEARS just to fill the customer preorders. Not include making dealer cars. A +3000 # will easily be mid 2024 at best.

Their target is 50 a DAY. They will never survive at 50 per week.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Their target is 50 a DAY. They will never survive at 50 per week.

We all know he’s good at hitting his targets.

 

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[LargeOrangeFont]

We all know he’s good at hitting his targets.

Good thing he isn’t building them

 

[DLC]

Are we 86 pages in on the "cars hitting the assembly line" thread and still working with the first picture which was deemed not to be production cars?

we saw assembly line pics a while ago!

Im sure in a few months we’ll see a Wherehouse full of assembled cars….

it takes a while to get the pics out of China and Mexico….

 

[Laguna]

Honest question, is any of the deposit holders losing interest? I am a deposit holder and I know I am.

Be careful to have your own opinion.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

I just think they just need to rebrand "SPEED" to the "PONY EXPRESS"

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Maybe this has been discussed already, but if there are 50-100 + cars ready to deliver (waiting on CARB / EPA) then can we at least see pics of all the assembled cars? I mean wouldn't it be advantageous to do a drone flyer over of them all or something??

 

[Heylam]

Maybe this has been discussed already, but if there are 50-100 + cars ready to deliver (waiting on CARB / EPA) then can we at least see pics of all the assembled cars? I mean wouldn't it be advantageous to do a drone flyer over of them all or something??

No, it’s much better business to keep everyone waiting and disappointed. That way rumors and speculation can run rampant.

 

[Bpracing1127]

No, it’s much better business to keep everyone waiting and disappointed. That way rumors and speculation can run rampant.

Rumors are good press and the cars sell themselves

 

[JayBreww]

Maybe this has been discussed already, but if there are 50-100 + cars ready to deliver (waiting on CARB / EPA) then can we at least see pics of all the assembled cars? I mean wouldn't it be advantageous to do a drone flyer over of them all or something??

Shhhhh, you’ll wake the beast. Lol