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How ironic that the first post of this thread was worded this way. Who could of ever guessed Hisum graphics. šŸ˜‚
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28 pages and thatā€™s what you comment on?

where were you on page 2, 3 or 4? Or 10ā€¦..
 

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If everyone is done arguing about selfie angles, can we talk about how in the second video today he said he has different companies all over the world making different parts for his car. Sooo, a lot of the car is getting shipped from China to Texas, then all kinds of other parts are coming from Australia and multiple other countries. And people are getting cars 6 or 7 weeks????
 

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28 pages and thatā€™s what you comment on?

where were you on page 2, 3 or 4? Or 1
Yeah I jumped in late. Just a observation when shit hit the fan on page 20 from the Instagram post.
 
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I was also told RG has like 1/4 of the spaces available at the sand show, that will not be good if he doesnā€™t have some customer cars by then Iā€™d say. Heā€™s got balls for trying this big of a venture Iā€™ll give him that
 

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I have a buddy who is #10, they told him his car will be ready by SSSS and if they can take it for display. He told me that 2 weeks ago when he called wanting my advise on if he should go pickup the Pro R he ordered. He also kept telling me he has to take delivery of the Speed car in AZ and not CA. My first thought was the car hasn't past EPA and can't be registered in CA.
 

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I have a buddy who is #10, they told him his car will be ready by SSSS and if they can take it for display. He told me that 2 weeks ago when he called wanting my advise on if he should go pickup the Pro R he ordered. He also kept telling me he has to take delivery of the Speed car in AZ and not CA. My first thought was the car hasn't past EPA and can't be registered in CA.
But, but, but why would he have a Pro R on order if according to LOF, ā€œnobody with skin in the game is worried about itā€?

I have had a feeling they would have issues with EPA/CARB since 2019 SSSS. I bought my 2018 XX in 2018, but the 2019s were already available outside of CA(I wanted the white and grey). I waited like 3 or 4 additional months for the 2019s to show up, and ended up sucking it up and getting a 2018. Dealer told me the 2019s were waiting on CARB approval still. And those are built by Textron, one of the largest MFGs in the world.
 

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I have a buddy who is #10, they told him his car will be ready by SSSS and if they can take it for display. He told me that 2 weeks ago when he called wanting my advise on if he should go pickup the Pro R he ordered. He also kept telling me he has to take delivery of the Speed car in AZ and not CA. My first thought was the car hasn't past EPA and can't be registered in CA.

That seems easy though.. just donā€™t ā€œtake deliveryā€ live on Instagram. Or tell them to bring it to AZ after the show?

I still canā€™t find the CARB certs for the car either. I know the Pro R is, but I canā€™t find the certs for that either.
 

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But, but, but why would he have a Pro R on order if according to LOF, ā€œnobody with skin in the game is worried about itā€?

I have had a feeling they would have issues with EPA/CARB since 2019 SSSS. I bought my 2018 XX in 2018, but the 2019s were already available outside of CA(I wanted the white and grey). I waited like 3 or 4 additional months for the 2019s to show up, and ended up sucking it up and getting a 2018. Dealer told me the 2019s were waiting on CARB approval still. And those are built by Textron, one of the largest MFGs in the world.

No one is worried about not getting their car. Try to keep up.

Thatā€™s because they only sold like 14 XXs in 2019. šŸ˜‚.

There are more speed cars on order than Textron cars that existed before the Tracker Bass Pro version.
 

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No one is worried about not getting their car. Try to keep up.

Thatā€™s because they only sold like 14 XXs in 2019. šŸ˜‚.

There are more speed cars on order than Textron cars that existed before the Tracker Bass Pro version.
I forgot that ā€œorderedā€ cars is the same as delivered carsā€¦ guess I havenā€™t been keeping up.

I was taught a long time ago that arguing with an idiot, only makes you the bigger idiot. Enjoy your Hisun.
 

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I forgot that ā€œorderedā€ cars is the same as delivered carsā€¦ guess I havenā€™t been keeping up.

I was taught a long time ago that arguing with an idiot, only makes you the bigger idiot. Enjoy your Hisun.
You werenā€™t taught very well because you keep arguing, proving the point.

Enjoy getting passed out there in the dirt by your friends Hisun.
 

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That seems easy though.. just donā€™t ā€œtake deliveryā€ live on Instagram. Or tell them to bring it to AZ after the show?

I still canā€™t find the CARB certs for the car either. I know the Pro R is, but I canā€™t find the certs for that either.
Well he lives in CA so he would have register it in another state. I have seen it with other manufactures if it's not a "EVAP, CA" model it wont pass inspection. They may give him the MSO and he can deal with it.
 

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Well he lives in CA so he would have register it in another state. I have seen it with other manufactures if it's not a "EVAP, CA" model it wont pass inspection. They may give him the MSO and he can deal with it.

Yea I donā€™t know if it is still this way but even 3 years ago Polaris had special CA models that had fuel system differences. The rest of the country got a different spec evap system.

Itā€™s a pain for him Iā€™m sure but AZ has reciprocity with CA from an OHV registration perspective.
 

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When he said everything is double sheered he wasnā€™t kidding. Look at the amount of material on both sides of those bolts.

What is also cool is the wear sleeves pressed into the cast bulkhead at the pivot points. The hardware is also straight shanked through all of those joints to eliminate extra slop, and not oblong holes if it loosens up.
 

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Yea I donā€™t know if it is still this way but even 3 years ago Polaris had special CA models that had fuel system differences. The rest of the country got a different spec evap system.

Itā€™s a pain for him Iā€™m sure but AZ has reciprocity with CA from an OHV registration perspective.
Polaris still has an EVAP model for CA.

I have had a few buddies from CA register their sxs in AZ pretty easy so I'm sure he will do that if/when the time comes.
 

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Polaris still has an EVAP model for CA.

I have had a few buddies from CA register their sxs in AZ pretty easy so I'm sure he will do that if/when the time comes.

Yes it is easy to register your UTV in AZ as a CA resident.
 

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No one is worried about not getting their car. Try to keep up.

Thatā€™s because they only sold like 14 XXs in 2019. šŸ˜‚.

There are more speed cars on order than Textron cars that existed before the Tracker Bass Pro version.


I'm not sure who you talk too.. maybe social media?

But I will tell you this... i was in the atv/sxs game for along time. I have many people local that i still help out and get calls when they need advice. I know of at least 10 people if not more, that I talk to, that have had deposits on these.. some in VERY low order #.. they are not as "ok" with this as you are and you say "everyone" is ok with it! They are about to loose there shit.. these are guys that dune damn near every weekend rain or shine.. so I dont think the "everyone that has skin in the game is OK with it" is not the consensus!!

I have had a few phone calls since the whole "H" pic came out.. my response "I'm out call RG and ask"!
 

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You guys keep talking about the Hisun having orange a-arms and blue springs meaning it must be a early pre-production speed car. But this one on the assembly line in the background also has it. So maybe the Hisun models will come with blue springs to set it apart from speed.
There is no Hisun model lmao
RG models come with Orange arms, springs, and cage.
 

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I'm not sure who you talk too.. maybe social media?

But I will tell you this... i was in the atv/sxs game for along time. I have many people local that i still help out and get calls when they need advice. I know of at least 10 people if not more, that I talk to, that have had deposits on these.. some in VERY low order #.. they are not as "ok" with this as you are and you say "everyone" is ok with it! They are about to loose there shit.. these are guys that dune damn near every weekend rain or shine.. so I dont think the "everyone that has skin in the game is OK with it" is not the consensus!!

I have had a few phone calls since the whole "H" pic came out.. my response "I'm out call RG and ask"!
THIS^^^^ I know a few guys that have them on order., and most are not "happy" with how it's been going. One guy is pissed he missed out last season, and starting to be pissed he might be missing this season. Another guy ended up buying a new RZR last season so he didn't miss out, he is hoping the market stays strong for his resale once he gets his SPEED car.
 

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I'm not sure who you talk too.. maybe social media?

But I will tell you this... i was in the atv/sxs game for along time. I have many people local that i still help out and get calls when they need advice. I know of at least 10 people if not more, that I talk to, that have had deposits on these.. some in VERY low order #.. they are not as "ok" with this as you are and you say "everyone" is ok with it! They are about to loose there shit.. these are guys that dune damn near every weekend rain or shine.. so I dont think the "everyone that has skin in the game is OK with it" is not the consensus!!

I have had a few phone calls since the whole "H" pic came out.. my response "I'm out call RG and ask"!

Tell them Iā€™ll buy their spots for cost if they want out that bad. Are these guys mad about the product or mad about the timeline. A year ago December looked likely but by the beginning of the season in Oct it did not.

I get being angry because they missed a season, but the writing was on the wall for last season. Not so much now.

I still donā€™t know what a car with an H on it has to do with Speed. A week later it appears nothing.

At the end of they day they are annoyed but havenā€™t bailed.
 

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You guys keep talking about the Hisun having orange a-arms and blue springs meaning it must be a early pre-production speed car. But this one on the assembly line in the background also has it. So maybe the Hisun models will come with blue springs to set it apart from speed.

RG models have orange arms, and orange cage, not orange arms and a black cage. In that pic, someone asked in the IG comments about springs.
 

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THIS^^^^ I know a few guys that have them on order., and most are not "happy" with how it's been going. One guy is pissed he missed out last season, and starting to be pissed he might be missing this season. Another guy ended up buying a new RZR last season so he didn't miss out, he is hoping the market stays strong for his resale once he gets his SPEED car.
There are gonna be a couple thousand new cars on the market when these drop. Mine is going up for sale in late August. Iā€™m ready to risk loosing a couple months of this season based on what Iā€™m seeing now.
 
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You guys keep talking about the Hisun having orange a-arms and blue springs meaning it must be a early pre-production speed car. But this one on the assembly line in the background also has it. So maybe the Hisun models will come with blue springs to set it apart from speed.
There is no Hisun model, and certainly not in the US, Unless their head of sales is publicly lying.
 

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Lmao, every "last I heard" gets a rebuttal, which garners 8 new last I heards and 14 more buttals.......
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Total gradeschool dejavušŸ˜„

Last I heard there will be a lot of butthurt members here in the next few months. šŸ‘šŸ»

Weā€™ve gone from:

ā€œYouā€™ll never get itā€, to ā€œYouā€™ll get it some dayā€ to, ā€œYouā€™ll get it but it wonā€™t be goodā€, to ā€œYouā€™ll get it but it isnā€™t made where they saidā€ to ā€œYouā€™ll get it but the badges will be different and that makes it not goodā€, to ā€œIf they donā€™t deliver in 6 weeks itā€™s over for themā€ To RG looks tired and needs a haircutā€ to ā€œThat image on the live stream is mirrored, you are getting screwedā€.

šŸ˜‚

These guys are gonna be angry when myself and the other members arenā€™t screwed out of their money.
 

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Last year around this time people here were so sure they were going to get there car they were taking bets they would get it by December. When that date passed they started taking bets they would get it by February. When that date passed they started taking bets it would be by April. Now they are taking bets again this year they will get it in December. Even 2 years ago people were selling there current sxs because they were sure they were going to get there speed car that December.

Doesn't take a crystal ball to see they aren't going to have customers cars at the sand sport show like they are claiming. If you think you are getting your speed car at the show you are Hisun.
 

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Last year around this time people here were so sure they were going to get there car they were taking bets they would get it by December. When that date passed they started taking bets they would get it by February. When that date passed they started taking bets it would be by April. Now they are taking bets again this year they will get it in December. Even 2 years ago people were selling there current sxs because they were sure they were going to get there speed car that December.

Doesn't take a crystal ball to see they aren't going to have customers cars at the sand sport show like they are claiming. If you think you are getting your speed car at the show you are Hisun.

Iā€™m not getting mine nor do I want it at the show. Sounds like some people have been contacted about it already. Maybe they are lying? Itā€™s looking like they are building RG spec cars now. Iā€™m sure those wonā€™t make their way to customers and Speed will have an empty booth here in 6 weeks, but we will see whoā€™s lying I suppose.

The difference is we had a lot less guidance last year, and even early this year. People that sold early, too bad for them I guess. The ones I that saw the writing on the wall picked up other cars or kept theirs.
 

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Last year around this time people here were so sure they were going to get there car they were taking bets they would get it by December. When that date passed they started taking bets they would get it by February. When that date passed they started taking bets it would be by April. Now they are taking bets again this year they will get it in December. Even 2 years ago people were selling there current sxs because they were sure they were going to get there speed car that December.

Doesn't take a crystal ball to see they aren't going to have customers cars at the sand sport show like they are claiming. If you think you are getting your speed car at the show you are Hisun.
See what you did there... :)
 

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Tell them Iā€™ll buy their spots for cost if they want out that bad. Are these guys mad about the product or mad about the timeline. A year ago December looked likely but by the beginning of the season in Oct it did not.

I get being angry because they missed a season, but the writing was on the wall for last season. Not so much now.

I still donā€™t know what a car with an H on it has to do with Speed. A week later it appears nothing.

At the end of they day they are annoyed but havenā€™t bailed.

I'm not getting into the back and forth as this stuff is the main reason I got out..

And anybody that has been in this long enough (a lot of the guys I talk to have been) remember the "Redline" dubacil many years ago. When it came time, cars with deposits were held up and denied because the "Weber" engines were not certified in the US. most lost there deposit. Shortly after polaris came out with the rzr800 with a Weber designed engine and the Redlines went to the wayside.....

There is some fuckery going on here and most that have been in the game for along time see it..

I hope the best for RG as I actually like him and met him in the dunes in Coos Bay!

I honestly thought this was going to set the sxs market on fire, but I think that fire is dwindling..
 

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I'm not getting into the back and forth as this stuff is the main reason I got out..

And anybody that has been in this long enough (a lot of the guys I talk to have been) remember the "Redline" dubacil many years ago. When it came time, cars with deposits were held up and denied because the "Weber" engines were not certified in the US. most lost there deposit. Shortly after polaris came out with the rzr800 with a Weber designed engine and the Redlines went to the wayside.....

There is some fuckery going on here and most that have been in the game for along time see it..

I hope the best for RG as I actually like him and met him in the dunes in Coos Bay!

I honestly thought this was going to set the sxs market on fire, but I think that fire is dwindling..

We will find out. There is nothing to go back and forth about. Like I said, all the pissed people sick of the fuckery can easily get out, even now. If they havenā€™t, and are pissed it is on them. Speed will even broker the sale of their spot at no cost.

Iā€™ll buy your peopleā€™s spots for cost if they want out. They can sell their spot and go get a car.

If you watch what is going on as of even yesterday. Itā€™s a lot of effort tens of millions of dollars of equipment on a factory floor, and piles of parts and subassemblies to fuck people out of a couple million bucks šŸ¤£
 
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Last I heard there will be a lot of butthurt members here in the next few months. šŸ‘šŸ»

Weā€™ve gone from:

ā€œYouā€™ll never get itā€, to ā€œYouā€™ll get it some dayā€ to, ā€œYouā€™ll get it but it wonā€™t be goodā€, to ā€œYouā€™ll get it but it isnā€™t made where they saidā€ to ā€œYouā€™ll get it but the badges will be different and that makes it not goodā€, to ā€œIf they donā€™t deliver in 6 weeks itā€™s over for themā€ To RG looks tired and needs a haircutā€ to ā€œThat image on the live stream is mirrored, you are getting screwedā€.

šŸ˜‚

These guys are gonna be angry when myself and the other members arenā€™t screwed out of their money.

Some guys got as worked up over a speed car they weren't buying as they got about a 35K tesla they weren't also going buy.

Id like a viable alternative to a 25K car I need to dump 25K into to make phat and hope he kills it.

Building shit is very very hard.
 

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So anybody have a real world answer to the idea of putting a bench in the back of one of these? Will it work?
 

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Some guys got as worked up over a speed car they weren't buying as they got about a 35K tesla they weren't also going buy.

Id like a viable alternative to a 25K car I need to dump 25K into to make phat and hope he kills it.

Building shit is very very hard.

What about that $60k Vette :)

I was never worked up about the car or the money, just the claims from the owners that they were ā€œsaving money on gasā€ buying a $60k car šŸ‘šŸ».

The answer here is the same there. People are free to spend their money however they like.
 

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Iā€™m not getting mine nor do I want it at the show. Sounds like some people have been contacted about it already. Maybe they are lying? Itā€™s looking like they are building RG spec cars now. Iā€™m sure those wonā€™t make their way to customers and Speed will have an empty booth here in 6 weeks, but we will see whoā€™s lying I suppose.

The difference is we had a lot less guidance last year, and even early this year. People that sold early, too bad for them I guess. The ones I that saw the writing on the wall picked up other cars or kept theirs.

What do you mean people have been contacted about it already? You mean to pay in full? Or they are just being told that customer cars will be at the show? We know speed says they will have cars at the show, but that doesn't mean much. Let me know when people are being asked to pay.
 

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So anybody have a real world answer to the idea of putting a bench in the back of one of these? Will it work?
Itā€™s gonna be stadium seating if you do. I donā€™t think anyone yet knows how far down into the rear center console you can go to mount a bench closer to the stock rear seat level.
 
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What do you mean people have been contacted about it already? You mean to pay in full? Or they are just being told that customer cars will be at the show? We know speed says they will have cars at the show, but that doesn't mean much. Let me know when people are being asked to pay.
Read the thread. They are probably lying that they were asked to use their low number cars for display at the show.

It is not my business when or how people pay for their vehicles.
 
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So anybody have a real world answer to the idea of putting a bench in the back of one of these? Will it work?
I'm sponsored by Simpson, they want my or one of my friends cars when we it, so they can figure out seats and mounting. I'll ask them when we get cars.
 
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