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Don't know the circs.... Neighbor is at Echo Lodge and sent me this.

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Ya, that's not a good feeling when you come out to that. Appears maybe a 25' cat?
 

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Could be a lot worse….tie the bow eye to a truck and drag it to the beach to de-water….recovery at least will be easy.
Wouldn't that be extremely hard on the outdrive? Possible damage the transom too?
 

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if it wasn't running, engine damage will be minimal, possabily another wake board bladder boat victum
 

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Wouldn't that be extremely hard on the outdrive? Possible damage the transom too

So...lean in and trim it all the up, then drag it up on the beach. I've had boats spend the night under water a few times....the battery was never dead. If they could get that thing up on the beach far enough where the gunnels are out the water....flip on the bilge pump and set down for a couple beers....when it's empty, tow it to the ramp and put it on the trailer.

Drain the oil (into the bottom of the boat, whatever...just empty the engine ASAP), fill it with new oil, introduce a new fuel source and get it fired up. If that can't happen immediately, fill the whole damn engine with anything....water, diesel, oil, anything but air....through the oil fill, carburetor/throttle body, etc...and KEEP IT FULL until they can properly drain and flush it. Rust won't happen with no air. Disconnect the battery as soon as possible or every red wire in the boat will get the green death on the conductors...if they haven't already.
 
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if it wasn't running, engine damage will be minimal, possabily another wake board bladder boat victum
I'm thinking an unknown leak? Or maybe someone pulled the plug or they forgot to tighten it or? I would think that boat would handle a wave tractor w/o issue?
 

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That's not a small boat...I would hope it can handle a wake tractor coming by...especially with a stern line. No plug or a leaky through-hull would be my guess, based on the info available.
Thinking the same thing, but if the bow was attached to some solid anchor with a short chain that would not allow the boat to bob in the rollers, I could totally see it taking a Tsunami wave over the front deck..........
 

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Thinking the same thing, but if the bow was attached to some solid anchor with a short chain that would not allow the boat to bob in the rollers, I could totally see it taking a Tsunami wave over the front deck..........

It would have to be 100 of them in a row. The amount of water it takes to sink a boat is substantial! Not saying impossible, but this doesn’t seem likely.
 

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It would have to be 100 of them in a row. The amount of water it takes to sink a boat is substantial! Not saying impossible, but this doesn’t seem likely.

Look closely at the front of the boat. With that design, I imagine it could happen pretty easily.

Man I sure hope Someone finds out how this happened.
 

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No way a wake boat did that. Definitely possible on a lower profile boat though. I think the knee jerk reaction is to just blame a wake boat.
 

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No way a wake boat did that. Definitely possible on a lower profile boat though. I think the knee jerk reaction is to just blame a wake boat.
My boat has about 4" of freeboard....and deals with wake board boats just fine while at anchor....boats float on water, and waves are made of water....that boat has a hole in it, plain and simple.
 

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My boat has about 4" of freeboard....and deals with wake board boats just fine while at anchor....boats float on water, and waves are made of water....that boat has a hole in it, plain and simple.
When you really think about the amount of water a 24-26ft boat would need to take head on it doesn’t add up. But I know everyone on the strip is looking for a reason to hate wake boats. So here we are lol.
 

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Thinking the same thing, but if the bow was attached to some solid anchor with a short chain that would not allow the boat to bob in the rollers, I could totally see it taking a Tsunami wave over the front deck..........

A boat that big is going to take more than one wake tractor. Especially with a working bilge.

Maybe a thunderstorm, with full lake run, to build the “Tsumami” like we’ve seen at the turtle. 😉

Good news is the water is super clean, and it’s hot and dry along the river right now.
 

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We boated by it around 11 am and there were people there on shore attempting to to something.

With fresh water you have a couple days time to get it running. There will likely be no internal hard part damage.

Been there done that.
 
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No one wants to deal with that. What a bummer for the boat owner.
I'd love to deal with it...honestly.....it's a good break from a weekend of doing nothing and being mostly useless. If I was out there I'd have that boat on the trailer, running, and back in the water in 3 hours or less.
 

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I only referred to the actual engine. I've lived it swamped by a Casino taxi in my Flat.
 
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I had no further issues. I gave my opinion having been through it. If it were salt water then its game over and likely a total. It looked Like an Essex Cat.
I just had the exhaust manifolds off my Essex and just minor surface rust.
Every not ground wire on mine that looked fine after a few months of the night underwater turned green the following year....ground wires were all pristine. I don't profess to know enough to explain that, but it is what it is....both times lol.

Iron isn't a problem. Shit with electricity running through it is a significant problem.
 

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Hopefully he has the means to immediately get the engine drained, oil changed and back on the water to remove as much moisture as possible then do another oil change flush etc. to remove any residual moisture. It takes a bit of work and flushing to get them moisture free internally. If not, he's got a significant insurance claim in his near future.
 

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I have only seen one boat swamped by another boat, it happened to be the guy who owned weekend warrior trailers, he passed a wake boat full of about 15 people floating close to shore, helped a few chicks get to shore (about 10 ft) and grabbed some cushions and a couple free beers
 

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I've seen two swamped at Marina Manor docks, I've got a pretty low profile ski boat and I always parked bow out, even then I'd take rollers OVER the bow on big days, finally stopped putting my boat in a slip on weekends, just launch and pull everyday, or better yet watch from shore with my cooler.
 

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Every not ground wire on mine that looked fine after a few months of the night underwater turned green the following year....ground wires were all pristine. I don't profess to know enough to explain that, but it is what it is....both times lol.

Iron isn't a problem. Shit with electricity running through it is a significant problem.
I get where your coming from.

This is the best product we've found. We spray it on everything in the Ocean boat including all the bonding junctions. Crappy Picture.
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Can’t you just use WD-40? Water Displacement is in the name.
No long term corrosion protection. Its good for its target market.

Its also flammable as hell. T9 leaves a coating behind you can see. It is not WD-40 priced either.
 

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I had to deal with one of those wave tractors in Parker one day. Wheeler was with me in my buddies Stoker.

Fortunately I had time, and experience, to be in the right position when the wave hit us. We would have Easily be swapped, if not.

I have no love for those fucking things or their owners.

Anyone who has ever had to deal with their wakes, knows exactly what I'm talking about.
 

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Highly doubt that a wakeboat wake would sink it.My elim 207 can be anchored and rarely gets water over the bow from other boats.

Most likely it could have been a shift bellow that cracked or another water fitting that began leaking.As for engine sure you can get it fired up and running but failure will eventually happen you see all that fine silt and sand floating when water gets stirred up well it also enters the engine as well and just changing oil will not get rid of that before it runs through the bearings.
 

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2022 or 23 28 foot boat.... Rumor is no plug in the boat. But don't quote me on that.
 

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2022 or 23 28 foot boat.... Rumor is no plug in the boat. But don't quote me on that.
You’d think forgetting the drain plug would be something you figure out just as the bilge pump comes on right after launching (assuming there is an auto function, which is far more common now in newer boats).

And if the bilge pump wasn’t on auto, then a large quantity of water in the back of the boat wasn’t noticed?
 

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Essex Fusion 28’ deck, no way it was a wakeboard wake. They’re pretty tall.

Not sure how you wouldn’t notice the plug either. Especially with anchoring and everything. My guess is they launched and ran for a bit right away(plug above waterline/draining anything that was in it from launching). Maybe anchor lines were already set ahead of time?

I remember when I was a kid, my parents purposely put our boat in without the plug to see how noticeable it would be. It was pretty obvious…
 

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Essex Fusion 28’ deck, no way it was a wakeboard wake. They’re pretty tall.

Not sure how you wouldn’t notice the plug either. Especially with anchoring and everything. My guess is they launched and ran for a bit right away(plug above waterline/draining anything that was in it from launching). Maybe anchor lines were already set ahead of time?

I remember when I was a kid, my parents purposely put our boat in without the plug to see how noticeable it would be. It was pretty obvious…
My dad left the plug out "On purpose" a time or two to see if we were paying attention as kids. His screaming and waving his arms like an air traffic controller for my mom to pull the truck up didn't seem like it was intentional but he stuck with his story for 40 years.

I still launch every time with the bow strap loose, hatch up, and then fire up for 30ish seconds and both look and smell before unhooking the bow strap and backing off so maybe I learned something.
 

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Highly doubt that a wakeboat wake would sink it.My elim 207 can be anchored and rarely gets water over the bow from other boats.

Most likely it could have been a shift bellow that cracked or another water fitting that began leaking.As for engine sure you can get it fired up and running but failure will eventually happen you see all that fine silt and sand floating when water gets stirred up well it also enters the engine as well and just changing oil will not get rid of that before it runs through the bearings.


Bellows…. They should be inspected every year and replaced about every 2-4. I can't believe how long some people go. Its the fastest way to drown a boat when they go bad.
 

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My dad left the plug out "On purpose" a time or two to see if we were paying attention as kids. His screaming and waving his arms like an air traffic controller for my mom to pull the truck up didn't seem like it was intentional but he stuck with his story for 40 years.

I still launch every time with the bow strap loose, hatch up, and then fire up for 30ish seconds and both look and smell before unhooking the bow strap and backing off so maybe I learned something.

I do the same thing when pulling away from a dock. I'll let the engine run for at least a minute, before untying the dock lines.
 

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Somebody else said they saw them at the dam and the bilge pump was working hard.
 

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Somebody else said they saw them at the dam and the bilge pump was working hard.
Kenny was just telling me about it. I didn't realize when you posted this iwas that brand new Essex on end of my Row. Boat has had a rough first year. They were just floating at the dam while the bilge pumps were pumping away. Guess they anchored for the night. Batteries went dead from bilge pumps running and down she went. It's a very nice boat I cringe every time I see it sitting there with no cover on it.
 
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