Ski Race Triathalon

[Firecracker]

Would this possibly be anything that anyone would be interested in?

I don't think that it could be done this year (or maybe it can?).

What I am thinking is having the race somewhere that it is safe for people to be on the streets either cycling or running for a portion of the race. We just may have to go back to the puddle for this... We could have a ski leg, swim leg, and a cycling or running leg. Not sure what is more appealing, the running or cycling.

Thoughts?

Again, this is just a thought, I'd like to see how many people would be interested in doing something like this.

 

[River Lynchmob]

F running...it hurts everything waaaaaaayyyyyy to bad

 

[MrWarpath]

They used to to that in Australia, Run,Swim and then ski. It was called the Ironman and was very tough. The run was in the sand and the swim in Botany Bay and then the ski in the same place. very rough water after a long run and swim was very tough. I won overall in 84,85,88.......real fun. If you do this again please make the swim in a full circle so I can go for it..............I have trouble swimming in a straight line these days...

 

[Firecracker]

F running...it hurts everything waaaaaaayyyyyy to bad

:lmao

Yeah, I feel that way too! Just not sure how many people have a bike though... I figure everyone has a pair of running shoes. But yeah, running sucks. LOL

 

[Firecracker]

If you do this again please make the swim in a full circle so I can go for it..............I have trouble swimming in a straight line these days...

Haha... Got it Mike.

 

[River Lynchmob]

They used to to that in Australia, Run,Swim and then ski. It was called the Ironman and was very tough. The run was in the sand and the swim in Botany Bay and then the ski in the same place. very rough water after a long run and swim was very tough. I won overall in 84,85,88.......real fun. If you do this again please make the swim in a full circle so I can go for it..............I have trouble swimming in a straight line these days...

They still do...it's either the Lion Island or the Green Island race in Cairns...ski to the island...swim to shore, run to the top of the Island and then back the way you came. Wayne has won it I believe twice overall. The fottage looks tough.

:lmao

Yeah, I feel that way too! Just not sure how many people have a bike though... I figure everyone has a pair of running shoes. But yeah, running sucks. LOL

I got me a beach cruiser or 3 that I can loan out...I don't own running shoes just for the reason you mentioned...I do have a sick pair of rainbow running flip flops though...and they double as beach cruiser riding shoes :skull

 

[wildone]

I'm down, but lets limit the run to a few miles... or allow 2 classes one for those who want to bike and one for those who want to ski... i dont think puddingstone would work, too small of a lake to get a decent marathon going with more then a few boats on it. Maybe someplace in lb, or out at the river

 

[racerden]

F running...it hurts everything waaaaaaayyyyyy to bad

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[MrWarpath]

The Green Island one is real tough but it is different than the Ironman from years past. They had the Ironman for years there at Botany Bay but I think that the new De sal place stopped them for now.I think this could be done real cool in Long Beach.......or Havasu on the Windsor side of the point........ride or run the roads near the ramp and swim out from the ramp and then ski in that bay.........

 

[Haiger]

Happy BDay Lynch!!:champagne:

Arrowhead would be a good place. I would rather ride my bike but i think more people have running shoes then own a good bike.

 

[Firecracker]

I do have a sick pair of rainbow running flip flops though...and they double as beach cruiser riding shoes :skull

Running Flip Flops? LOL

 

[MrWarpath]

Thats a good place to......small lake....small circles to swim and I am there.......

 

[Firecracker]

Alright, so how long should we ski? Swim? Cycle/Run? Let's take suggestions for courses at Havasu and Arrowhead...

 

[River Lynchmob]

Happy BDay Lynch!!:champagne:

Arrowhead would be a good place. I would rather ride my bike but i think more people have running shoes then own a good bike.

Thanks Todd.

What about Mission Bay?

 

[River Lynchmob]

Alright, so how long should we ski? Swim? Cycle/Run? Let's take suggestions for courses at Havasu and Arrowhead...

ski...10 min...10 yards to swim and the run will be to the closest bar

 

[wildone]

Happy Bday Lynch! Don't go smack your head on the bar again.


30 Minutes ski 2 mile run or 10 mile bike, 500 yard swim???

Or is that too easy? it would be cool if this could be attached to a race weekend somewhere early sunday morning or the friday before

 

[Haiger]

Mission bay would be a good place to. I dont know what it takes to put on an event down there.

 

[Firecracker]

ski...10 min...10 yards to swim and the run will be to the closest bar

Maybe we could make it a bit more entertaining... Add 10 spins on a bat once you get out of the water, and you have to handle a full Chuggler to finish.

 

[River Lynchmob]

Maybe we could make it a bit more entertaining... Add 10 spins on a bat once you get out of the water, and you have to handle a full Chuggler to finish.

Now that's more my speed...is there anything in the rules that says you cant do the bat spin and the Chuggler at teh same time? If so the swim wouldn't hurt so bad :skull

 

[River Lynchmob]

Happy Bday Lynch! Don't go smack your head on the bar again.


30 Minutes ski 2 mile run or 10 mile bike, 500 yard swim???

Or is that too easy? it would be cool if this could be attached to a race weekend somewhere early sunday morning or the friday before

Thanks Swanny...somethings are just destined to happen...hopefully there will be something soft on the bar to break the fall

 

[Firecracker]

30 Minutes ski 2 mile run or 10 mile bike, 500 yard swim???

Or is that too easy? it would be cool if this could be attached to a race weekend somewhere early sunday morning or the friday before

I don't think that is too easy. It sounds like somethign that almost anyone could do, and it would get more people out there. We could also separate by age class, or have divisions as well, so there can be more goodies handed out.

Mission bay would be a good place to. I dont know what it takes to put on an event down there.

I think it is getting pretty ugly with the permit situation, and cost to do something down there. But that would be a great place if we could get the permits, and find out how much it all will be down there.

 

[Firecracker]

Now that's more my speed...is there anything in the rules that says you cant do the bat spin and the Chuggler at teh same time? If so the swim wouldn't hurt so bad :skull

Good question... Due to the fact that some people don't have the ninja skills to do such a thing, I think that it would have to be done separately. LOL

 

[stevel]

I am pretty sure there was a triathlon in parker last week. It was down at blue water. How about the driver does ont thing the observer does one and the skier will just ski?

 

[wildone]

I am pretty sure there was a triathlon in parker last week. It was down at blue water. How about the driver does ont thing the observer does one and the skier will just ski?

Where the fun in that ! but a possibility. only problem is we have quit a few observers and drivers who may have let them selves go over the years...

 

[Crazyhippy]

Where the fun in that ! but a possibility. only problem is we have quit a few observers and drivers who may have let them selves go over the years...

That's mean...

They have mearly developed an aerodynamic buble in their midsection:skull

I'm one hell of a runner (3:30 marathon no problem tommorrow, sub 3hr w/ a month of training...), but really have ZERO desire to go ski half hour and then go for a run.

I'll be sure to take lots of pictures instead, oh and lighten everyones coolers so they dont strain themselves after the race:drnkfr

 

[wildone]

Parker? Swim the length of the ski beach from the far end to the marina launch ramp. Run around the Blue water property line around the big parking lot to the main road and back down the long drive way back to the cantina. Ski a 3 lap Marathon. Combine the Swim / Run Time with the Ski time. Allow a pre set time window where people can get ski gear on and launch boats between the run and ski. Its pretty simple (in theory) time everyone from the start of the swim, to the end of the run. Time each person again from the start of their ski run to the end of it. Add the two times together and then subtract the pre set time window between the two.

This way it is an even playing field. This may keep someone like men's open skier from dominating the entire event, simply because they can open up a lead at the start. it may let someone who may not be the best skier have a fighting chance, or the opposite limit a great skier who can not run or swim as well as the novice skier

Just my thought on it

 

[coz]

F running...it hurts everything waaaaaaayyyyyy to bad

I'm out too if running is involved :thumbsdown

 

[MrWarpath]

I think you never stop timming the race...............just race,run , swim,ski........no breaks when you finish running you just need to get into your gear fast and go.............if you make it social skies only and short ropes you could just throw on a jacket or suit and roll................that is how we used to do it in the Ironman in OZ..............just my take on it....

 

[wildone]

I think you never stop timming the race...............just race,run , swim,ski........no breaks when you finish running you just need to get into your gear fast and go.............if you make it social skies only and short ropes you could just throw on a jacket or suit and roll................that is how we used to do it in the Ironman in OZ..............just my take on it....

Thats true, i was just thinking of a safe way to start the ski part of it. Problem is here we don't have any locations where the swim course would interfere with the race course, at least that i can think of.

If we did it at a place like blue water the property is large enough we could keep it self contained, not have to try and close any streets, involve the city or police. or at least at a minimal. The only reason i mentioned a time break would be to allow for boats to launch, ect.. so that you dont suffer if you have to wait on the ramp or for swimmers to clear the water before boats got underway.

I definetly like the social ski, short ropes idea as well

 

[CycloneRacing]

Happy BDay Lynch!!:champagne:

Arrowhead would be a good place. I would rather ride my bike but i think more people have running shoes then own a good bike.

I agree with todd. I would much rather ride but not everyone has a bike.

By the way hapy Bday Lynch. how old are you these day's?

Also, if anyone is interested I know of a good road bike 4 sale. Dirt cheap too.

 

[River Lynchmob]

I agree with todd. I would much rather ride but not everyone has a bike.

By the way hapy Bday Lynch. how old are you these day's?

Also, if anyone is interested I know of a good road bike 4 sale. Dirt cheap too.

21 with 17 years experience

 

[wildone]

Also, if anyone is interested I know of a good road bike 4 sale. Dirt cheap too.

Hook it up hooker

 

[Firecracker]

I'm out too if running is involved :thumbsdown

I agree with todd. I would much rather ride but not everyone has a bike.

I had a talk with Wildone about that today... I can't even begin to run because it messes up my foot so much. So I bike. But he brought up a good point, that is would involve closing streets, and having to have cooperation with law enforcement. If it was to be held at Blue Water it could almost be completely self contained in one place, if the leg was to be run, instead of being a cycling leg.

I still say running sucks though.

 

[wildone]

trust me, i am no runner, but i can ski, and im a swimmer. i would much rather bike, but i doubt everyone that would like to participate has a decent road or mountain bike. Running would include a shorter course and just all around easier on logistics


im guessing most of us that can ski 30min to an hour can bear a 3 mile jog

 

[Firecracker]

trust me, i am no runner, but i can ski, and im a swimmer. i would much rather bike, but i doubt everyone that would like to participate has a decent road or mountain bike. Running would include a shorter course and just all around easier on logistics


im guessing most of us that can ski 30min to an hour can bear a 3 mile jog

uke:

That would be me post 3 mile run nowadays. LOL

I can ski 30 minutes, I'll lose my butt on the swimming end since I sink like a rock, and I can bike like there's no tomorrow. But the running just tears me up now. I used to be able to do it, being a former cross country runner, and track runner. But since my surgery, I just can't run. My foot won't take it.

I'm sure there will be something that we can do to accommodate both parties. Logistically cycling sucks. Running works. But the majority of feedback so far is wanting cycling... What to do?!?!?!

I'm really interested in Todd's suggestion of Arrowhead though...

 

[HottRoddeR]

Interested and watching to see what happens here, last tri I did was '99 Catalina. I suck at the swim but I made it around the end of the pier. I'm a regular runner but I could tune up both me and the bike I'm sure.

 

[CycloneRacing]

Hook it up hooker

you have my number. Call me if you are serious.

 

[SGettmann]

The idea behind multisport events is that it isn't comfortable or natural_untill one trains and races at that level for some time. Swim_bike_run was not natural in the 70's_now Team In Training sells out about every major tri in the country 6 months ahead of time. Point is_this type of event will be painful_thats the beauty behind it.
I like keeping this at the social ski level. I like a swim_followed by a mtn bike or time trial road section_then a ski_finalized with a run leg. The clock starts @ beginning and ends @ finish of run_the idea is no recovery between events. USAT may need to be researched for insurance. I've put on a few tri's_so more than happy to contribute if this is something the club wants to do and promote. Think a big audience would be within the collegate ski and tri clubs_followed by community tri clubs_though the idea of motorsports for many trigeeks will be a barrier_triathletes generally don't think motorsports is generally an athletic sport. Sean

 

[whiteworks]

This event has RD written all over it, Hell I'm not even sure he'd let you post pictures of it on his board

 

[stokerwhore]

well as fun as this all sounds there just no way i'll be participating in anything that starts with tri and ends in athlon. but i had a thought(it happens once in a while) can you ride a bike around pudding stone?? i think you could ride from one side to the other without having to shut down streets. after bringing a bike to a recent apba race there i found that theres some bastard hills on the far side. i'll bet it would would be up and down the whole way,lol. have fun!-Jas

 

[obnoxious001]

well as fun as this all sounds there just no way i'll be participating in anything that starts with tri and ends in athlon. but i had a thought(it happens once in a while) can you ride a bike around pudding stone?? i think you could ride from one side to the other without having to shut down streets. after bringing a bike to a recent apba race there i found that theres some bastard hills on the far side. i'll bet it would would be up and down the whole way,lol. have fun!-Jas

The regularly run triathalon events there, using road bikes down past the airport and around to the east entrance of the park I think. I was thinking mountain bikes might go with the ski racing, used to ride one for my legs, and there is an absolute killer hill on the west side of the park there.

 

[wildone]

well as fun as this all sounds there just no way i'll be participating in anything that starts with tri and ends in athlon. but i had a thought(it happens once in a while) can you ride a bike around pudding stone?? i think you could ride from one side to the other without having to shut down streets. after bringing a bike to a recent apba race there i found that theres some bastard hills on the far side. i'll bet it would would be up and down the whole way,lol. have fun!-Jas

Puddingstone does not have a large enough lake to run a decent, safe marathon, Putting 12 to 15 boats (assuming, could be more) on there for a decent amount of time is just asking for trouble. It would be a great venue for the other two legs, but for skiing its is far from the best option. It gets hairy there with 6 boats in a circle race. Just my opinion.

 

[wildone]

I'm All for this to happen, but for now it sounds like a logistics/ saftey nightmare.

Bikes = road closures, people needing to own, or get a hold of a bike
Run= Everyone seems to hate running
Swim= Safe Swim Zone away from ski zone, boat launch, water rescue
Ski= Boat launching away from swim zone, safe zone to start skiing in with out impeding those on course already, large enough course to offer a decent ski race


Just my two cents, the main issue seems to be a venue that can accommodate all three legs with out throwing away safety, or a competitive arena.

 

[twmurray143]

Swanny have the boats already launched tied to the shore. Then no one has to launch and the skiers can just walk out to their boats, put on their stuff and go. Just have a designated milling/start area.

 

[wildone]

Swanny have the boats already launched tied to the shore. Then no one has to launch and the skiers can just walk out to their boats, put on their stuff and go. Just have a designated milling/start area.

true... as long as we swim far enough off the beach it shouldn't be a problem

 

[Firecracker]

I'm All for this to happen, but for now it sounds like a logistics/ saftey nightmare.

Bikes = road closures, people needing to own, or get a hold of a bike
Run= Everyone seems to hate running
Swim= Safe Swim Zone away from ski zone, boat launch, water rescue
Ski= Boat launching away from swim zone, safe zone to start skiing in with out impeding those on course already, large enough course to offer a decent ski race


Just my two cents, the main issue seems to be a venue that can accommodate all three legs with out throwing away safety, or a competitive arena.

What if we were to completely eliminate the safety issue of people swimming and boats being in the water at the same time, by having a ski leg first? You would ski, and drop in a "Safe Zone" once you've completed your laps, and once the skier is completely in the boat with their ski off, and hte rope is completely in the boat, you idle at no wake speed to the pit lane (kind of like at the Enduro), this is where I just can't figure out what to do... Should the boat have to be on the trailer? Or should we draw for poles, and pole position gets the first pit stall, and can beach the boat. This is when you would take off to do your bike or run portion of the race. Once you have completed that portion, you swim the last leg. By that time, all boats should be off the course, and it is a safe environment to have the last swimming leg. Or you could do the swim leg first, bike/run, then ski... The only problem with doing it that way is boats ar coming on the course at bad times.

 

[wildone]

What if we were to completely eliminate the safety issue of people swimming and boats being in the water at the same time, by having a ski leg first? You would ski, and drop in a "Safe Zone" once you've completed your laps, and once the skier is completely in the boat with their ski off, and hte rope is completely in the boat, you idle at no wake speed to the pit lane (kind of like at the Enduro), this is where I just can't figure out what to do... Should the boat have to be on the trailer? Or should we draw for poles, and pole position gets the first pit stall, and can beach the boat. This is when you would take off to do your bike or run portion of the race. Once you have completed that portion, you swim the last leg. By that time, all boats should be off the course, and it is a safe environment to have the last swimming leg. Or you could do the swim leg first, bike/run, then ski... The only problem with doing it that way is boats ar coming on the course at bad times.

Could work, what if you skied first, then had to idle into a marina like the one at blue water, this way everyone is starting their run from the same spot pretty much. This way you dont have to start your run/ bike from a further distance than the guy down the beach?

I still think swim first ski last, Myself skiing would be easier after running or biking.

 

[fmo24]

if the swim was first the boats could launch while the run is going on and there would be no safety issue

 

[Firecracker]

if the swim was first the boats could launch while the run is going on and there would be no safety issue

The only issue with that is boats entering the course while other boats are already on the course... It can be done, everyone just really has to pay attention to what is going on around them.

 

[MrWarpath]

If its a Parker just have the swim across the river and back and then go ride or run for about 30 min then come back .......by then all should be out of the water and if not just start the boats futher up the river.....just my take.........