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FBI recommends no criminal charges be brought against Clinton. [emoji35]
 

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I watched it myself.

Lady liberty is hanging her head.

We are done.

You guys are right, no election needed, this great country didn't even make it 250 years.

Sad.

I imagine General Patreus is well aware of what is going on in our government right now. Any of us wouldn't see the light of day for more than a hour if we pulled shit like this. More or less what I watched FBI director Comey say.....

Although we found many cases of mishandling classified information, no charges willl be brought, because no matter what the citizens want, she will be the next president.

All you fuckheads who voted for bob and other third candidates with no chance to win the last two election cycles have brought us to this point. You are all fucking idiots. Thanks for playing.

Our own civil liberties get eroded further and the ruling class goes on about their business doing whatever they want.
 

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Yeah but..................even though they said nothing criminal they did say she was completely reckless in her handling of the data not to mention the fact that she used her personal devices in areas where it was highly likely that her data would be intercepted.

It could be the best decision if you are leaning "Right" because the opposition can now paint her as the reckless and ignorant player that they have painting her as for a while now. If there had been an indictment the dems had Uncle Joe ready to roll out with the sympathies of the country with him after the tragic death of his son earlier this year..........candidly I think this is the best possible result for "The Donald" in swaying the undecided voters as the hardcore on each side of the aisle would vote for "Their Candidate" regardless.....my .02
 

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RCDave and 500bbc...you guys have been saying it and I was just hoping the three separate equal branches of government our framers so carefully constructed would be adhered to.

Like it is said, wishing an Aunt had a dick, does not make her an Uncle.

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It is just spin Paul. The DOJ isn't going to do shit.

Even if Trumps wins outright, he won't make it past the grassy knoll.

Yeah but..................even though they said nothing criminal they did say she was completely reckless in her handling of the data not to mention the fact that she used her personal devices in areas where it was highly likely that her data would be intercepted.

It could be the best decision if you are leaning "Right" because the opposition can now paint her as the reckless and ignorant player that they have painting her as for a while now. If there had been an indictment the dems had Uncle Joe ready to roll out with the sympathies of the country with him after the tragic death of his son earlier this year..........candidly I think this is the best possible result for "The Donald" in swaying the undecided voters as the hardcore on each side of the aisle would vote for "Their Candidate" regardless.....my .02
 

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I fear this will only serve to embolden Hillary in the future. Nothing she does sticks and is untouchable. Total teflon....

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Essentially I believe she sold her soul to get elected. The bribes, favors, payoffs, kickbacks, etc will all serve to hurt the citizenry in untold ways down the road
 

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RCDave and 500bbc...you guys have been saying it and I was just hoping the three separate equal branches of government our framers so carefully constructed would be adhered to.

Brian

I was hoping for the same things as well my friend. All this is proof how corrupt politics really are. The democrats are just better at playing the game.
 

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Washington?s Hollow Men

he Clintons attend a rally in Hooksett, N.H., February 9, 2016. (Brian Snyder/Reuters)

National Review by VICTOR DAVIS HANSON. July 5, 2016

The government/media power elite are spectacularly ignorant of the American people.

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw
Alas! Our dried voices
When We whisper together Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats? feet over broken glass In our dry cellar
Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion.

T. S. Eliot In Merced or Dayton, if an insurance agent, eager to help his wife facing indictment, barged into a restaurant where the local DA is known to lunch, he would almost certainly be told to get the hell out. But among the Washington elite, the scenario is apparently quite different. The two parties, in supposedly serendipitous fashion, just happen to touch down at the same time on the Phoenix corporate tarmac, with their private planes pulling up nose to nose. Then the attorney general of the United States and her husband, in secrecy enforced by federal security details, welcome the ex-president onto her government plane. Afterward, and only when caught, the prosecutor and the husband of the person under investigation assure the world that they talked about everything except Hillary Clinton?s possible indictment, Loretta Lynch?s past appointment by Bill Clinton and likely judicial future, or the general quandary of 2016.

There has been a lot of talk since Brexit and the rise of Donald Trump of the corrosive power and influence of the ?elite? and the ?establishment.? But to quote Butch Cassidy to the Sundance Kid, ?Who are those guys?? In the case of the ancient Romans or of the traditional British ruling classes, land, birth, education, money, government service, and cultural notoriety were among the ingredients that made one an establishmentarian. But our modern American elite is a bit different. Residence, either in the Boston?Washington, D.C., or the San Francisco?Los Angeles corridor, often is a requisite. Celebrity and public exposure count ? e.g., access to traditional television outlets (as opposed to hoi polloi Internet blogging). So does education ? again, most often a coastal-corridor thing: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Berkeley, Stanford, etc. Net worth, whether made or inherited, helps. But lots of billionaires, especially Midwestern sorts, are not part of the elite, in that their money does not necessarily translate into much political or cultural influence ? or influence of the right sort. (Exceptions are Chicago traders who bundle millions for Hillary.) Especially influential are the revolving-door multimillionaires, especially from big banks and Wall Street ? the Tim Geithners, Jack Lews, Hank Paulsons, and Robert Rubins, but also the lesser flunkies of the Freddie/Fannie Clintonite crowd, a Franklin Raines (raking in $90 million) or a Jamie Gorelick ($26 million), all of whom came into the White House and its bureaucracies to get rich, but who always seem shocked when the public does not like their incestuous trails of bailouts, relief plans, favorable regulations, etc.

Creepy too are the satellite grifters like ?investment banker? Rahm Emanuel ? who somehow, between the White House and the House of Representatives, made off with $16 million for his financial ?expertise? ? or Chelsea Clinton, who made her fortune ($15 million) largely by being a ?consultant? for a Wall Street investment group (her fluff job at NBC News was small potatoes in comparison). The locus classicus, of course, is the Clinton power marriage itself, which invested nearly 40 years of public service in what proved to be a gargantuan pay-for-play payoff, when they parlayed Hillary?s political trajectories into a personal fortune of well over $100 million.

Give them credit: From the early days, when they would write off as IRS deductions gifts of their used underwear, they ended up 30 years later getting paid $10,000 to $60,000 a minute for their Wall Street riffs. The nexus between Big Government, Big Money, Big Influence, and Big Media is sometimes empowered by familial journalistic continuity (e.g., John Dickerson, son of Nancy Dickerson) or a second generation of fashion/glitz and media (Gloria Vanderbilt and Anderson Cooper), but again is increasingly expressed in the corridor ?power couple,? the sorts who receive sycophantic adulation in New York and Washington monthly magazines.

The Andrea Mitchell/Alan Greenspan power marriage was hailed as a threefer of media, government, and money. What was so strange, however, was just how often wrong were Mitchell in her amateurishly politicized rants and Greenspan in his cryptic Delphic prophecies ? and always in areas of their supposedly greatest expertise.

Take also the Obama Cabinet. When we wonder how Susan Rice could go on television on five occasions in a single day to deceive about Benghazi; or John Kerry ? in the middle of a war whose results Obama would come to call a ?stable? and ?self-reliant? democratic Iraq ? could warn American youth that the punishment for poor school performance was ?to get stuck in Iraq?; or Jay Carney (now senior vice president of global corporate affairs at Amazon) and Josh Earnest could both repeatedly mislead the country on Benghazi, the reason may be not just that they felt their influence, status, and privilege meant they were rarely responsible for the real-world consequences of their own rhetoric, but that they had forgotten entirely the nature of middle-class America, or never really knew it at all.

I get the impression that members of the D.C. elite do not wait in line with a sick kid in the emergency room on a Saturday night, when the blood flows and the supporters of rival gangs have to be separated in the waiting room; or that they find dirty diapers, car seats, and dead dogs tossed on their lawns, or wait two hours at the DMV, or are told that their journalistic assignment was outsourced to India, or read public-school teachers? comments on their kids? papers that were ungrammatical and misspelled to the point of being incomprehensible.

The elite seems to be ignorant that, about 1975, Bedford Falls flyover country started to become Pottersville. In forming perceptions about Benghazi, the Iran deal, globalization, or illegal immigration, it is sometimes hard to know who is making policy and who is reporting and analyzing such formulations ? or whether they are one and the same.

National Security Advisor Susan Rice is married to former ABC television producer Ian Cameron. Ben Rhodes, who drew up the talking-points deceptions about Benghazi and seemed to boast of deceiving the public about the Iran deal, is the brother of CBS News president David Rhodes. Will 60 Minutes do one of its signature hit pieces on Ben Rhodes?

Secretary of State John Kerry ? who famously docks his yacht in Rhode Island in order to avoid paying Massachusetts taxes on it ? is married to Teresa Heinz, the billionaire widow of the late senator and catsup heir John Heinz.

Former Obama press secretary Jay Carney married Claire Shipman, senior national correspondent for ABC?s Good Morning America; his successor, Josh Earnest, married Natalie Wyeth, a veteran of the Treasury Department.

Huma Abedin, Hillary Clinton?s ?body woman,? is married to creepy sexter Anthony Weiner; perhaps she was mesmerized by his stellar political career, his feminist credentials, and his tolerant approach to deviancy?

And on and on it goes. These Christiane Amanpour/Jamie Rosen or Samantha Power/Cass Sunstein types of connections could be explored to the nth degree, especially their moth-to-the-flame progressive fixations with maximizing privilege, power, and class. But my purpose is not to suggest some conspiratorial cabal of D.C. and New York insiders, only to note that an increasing number of government and media elites are so entangled with each other, leveraging lucrative careers in politics, finance, and the media, and doubling their influence through marriage, that they have scant knowledge of and less concern for the clingers who live well beyond their coastal-corridor moats.

And so when reality proves their preconceptions wrong ? from Benghazi to Brexit ? they have only outrage and disdain to fall back on. Sometimes their smug isolation is the stuff of caricature. Mark Zuckerberg waxes poetically on about the illiberality of building border walls (e.g., ?I hear fearful voices calling for building walls and distancing people they label as others?), but he is now simultaneously involved in three controversies involving either hyper-private security patrols or walls or both as he seeks to use his fortune to create Maginot Lines around his Palo Alto, San Francisco, and Hawaii properties to keep the wrong sort of people quite distant.

I should end by returning to Hillary Clinton, whose insider arc from the cattle-futures con to quarter-million-dollar Wall Street chats to the e-mail scandal shares the common and persistent theme of influence peddling, greed, and lying, while she lectures Americans about the need for trust, fairness, and transparency.

Or perhaps I should finish with Chelsea, a chip off the old blockess, who became instantly rich as she decried the culture?s overemphasis on wealth, and whose husband?s hedge fund is tottering, after disastrously investing in Greek bailout bonds ? at a time when his mother-in-law and Sidney Blumenthal were exchanging classified speculations over whether German banks would guarantee Greek debt and hence investors? money.

But I conclude on a much more sober, judicious, and appropriately unimpeachable D.C. figure, the rightly revered Thomas Pickering, career diplomat, bipartisan Council on Foreign Relation fixture, co-chairman of blue-ribbon investigative committees, and perhaps heir to the itinerant fixers of a bygone age, such as Sumner Welles, John McCloy, and Clark Clifford.

Pickering ? multilingual, veteran of hazardous diplomatic posts, confidant to presidents of both parties, and octogenarian ?wise man? ? was asked by the State Department to conduct its internal investigation of the Benghazi debacle, as chairman of the Benghazi Accountability Review Board. Four of the five members of this board, including Pickering, were apparently recommended by Hillary Clinton?s own State Department team in good Quis custodiet custodes style. No one would dare suggest that Pickering, appointed as an undersecretary of state and an ambassador by Bill Clinton, and a well-known Clinton friend, might have various conflicts of interest in investigating fully the allegations that Hillary Clinton refused to beef up security at the consulate in Benghazi, or falsely claimed in public that the loss of four Americans was the result of an inflammatory video, just hours after she confided in e-mail communications that it was a preplanned al-Qaeda attack.

Instead, Pickering decided that Clinton would never appear before his committee and declared that he was not interested in a gotcha finding; yet somehow Clinton aide Cheryl Mills found a way to review the board?s findings before publication.

In the end, the State Department chastised and put on leave lowly subordinates for seemingly working within the security parameters established by the sacrosanct secretary of state. Nor would anyone suggest that the temperate and esteemed Pickering, as a vice president of Boeing from 2001 to 2006, and then a consultant to Boeing from 2006 to 2015, had any special financial interest in promoting the Clinton, and then the Kerry, outreach to Iran. Indeed, Pickering testified before Congress and wrote elegant op-eds about why the Iran non-enrichment accord was a good deal ? but without ever quite telling the country that a liberated Iran was also considering a $25 billion purchase of aircraft (with potential dual use as military transports) from Boeing ? which just happened to be Pickering?s quite generous corporate client.

Is it all that strange that when Washington fixtures write outraged op-eds about the ?fascistic? Donald Trump or the ?self-harming? Brexit voters, no one seems to listen any more? Is it all that strange that when Washington fixtures write outraged op-eds about the ?fascistic? Donald Trump or the ?self-harming? Brexit voters, no one seems to listen any more? Does a Hank Paulson ? former assistant to John Erhlichman, former CEO of Goldman Sachs (which has given over $800,000 to Hillary?s campaigns as well as $675,000 in speaking fees), former Treasury secretary, and of some $700 million in net worth ? ever sense that his assurances that Hillary is presidential and not corrupt are not believable? Or that the effect of his politicking is analogous to angrily waving a Mexican flag at a Trump rally? In a sense, these revolving-door apparatchiks and incestuous couples are bullies, who use their megaphones to disparage others who are supposedly blinkered and ignorant to the point of not believing that a videomaker caused the attacks in Libya, not trusting the Iranians, being skeptical about the theory of sanctuary cities, missing the genius of the European Union, not seeing the brilliant logic in allowing in 12 million immigrants from southern Mexico and Central America under unlawful auspices, panicking about $20 trillion in debt, and incapable of appreciating the wonders of outsourcing.

In matters of deception, ostentatious vulgarity never proves as injurious as the hubris of the mannered establishment. So what I resent most about the Washington hollow men is not the sources and methods through which they parlay wealth, power, and influence, or the values they embrace to exercise and perpetuate their privilege and sense of exalted self, but the feigned outrage that they express when anyone dares suggest, by word or vote, that they are mediocrities and ethical adolescents ? and really quite emotional, after all. ?

NRO contributor Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, and the author, most recently, of The Savior Generals.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437454/american-elite-and-american-people
 

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This country is fucked. If I had classified emails on my unsecured, private email server that congress was told they were not cleared to read I know my ass would be charged. I am sickened, saddened, and not surprised all at the same time. :(
 

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With the litany of offense's the Comy rattled off how is it possible that nothing illegal happened?

Gen. Patraeus was having an affair with someone who had security clearance but she didn't have the approval to see the documents she saw. The recommendation was for a year in prison to which he didn't get but he also lost his security clearance.

Now HRC is wanting to have the highest level job in the land, how in the hell is she even remotely qualified?

It's total bullshit and ANYONE who vote's for this unindicted criminal is a disgrace and no better than she.
 

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Here here.

I believe Patreus was even stripped of rank.

Brian

With the litany of offense's the Comy rattled off how is it possible that nothing illegal happened?

Gen. Patraeus was having an affair with someone who had security clearance but she didn't have the approval to see the documents she saw. The recommendation was for a year in prison to which he didn't get but he also lost his security clearance.

Now HRC is wanting to have the highest level job in the land, how in the hell is she even remotely qualified?

It's total bullshit and ANYONE who vote's for this unindicted criminal is a disgrace and no better than she.
 

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In my opinion the entire state department and anyone who was involved with allowing a private server in the Obama administration should be charged. Total incompetence and shows Clinton lacks the smarts to be president! Her willingness to flat out flimsy lie about things easily disputed, shows she believes the majority of Americans are idiots in her mind!
 

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Repeatedly drive a Pinto in a 'reckless manner', and go to jail .

Repeatedly operate classified federal Emails in the SoS offices in a 'reckless manner', and get nothing but a 'news conference' .

Comey and the FBI have now shown just how far the Clinton's 'payoffs and arm twisting' has gone to continuously protect the COTUS from her own 'self driven reckless ways' .

I have no faith in this government, just happy to be old and near my end .

COTUS wins the election and this country will not be the same within 2 years .........
 

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I watched it myself.

Lady liberty is hanging her head.

We are done.

You guys are right, no election needed, this great country didn't even make it 250 years.

Sad.

I imagine General Patreus is well aware of what is going on in our government right now. Any of us wouldn't see the light of day for more than a hour if we pulled shit like this. More or less what I watched FBI director Comey say.....

Although we found many cases of mishandling classified information, no charges willl be brought, because no matter what the citizens want, she will be the next president.

All you fuckheads who voted for bob and other third candidates with no chance to win the last two election cycles have brought us to this point. You are all fucking idiots. Thanks for playing.

Our own civil liberties get eroded further and the ruling class goes on about their business doing whatever they want.

The voters don't chose the president otherwise we'd have had Gore instead of Bush.

The fault for this lies in the corrupt system of politics and the good old boys network of political parties who fight it out with each other in public, and go back in private sipping cognac laughing.....

I know you're upset by it, but saying the shit the parties tried to spoon feed the public, which some decided to spit out, is to blame for this is laughable, not realistic. Even if you gave every 3rd party vote for the last 2 elections to your favorite candidate it wouldn't have changed a god damned thing, go look at the numbers, votes per state, and the electoral college results, it's winner take all. :)


In 2012, the only states with a close enough margin to even consider 3rd parties spoiling it for the the Republicans were Florida, and Ohio, which even if they had of won, would have still lost to Obama, but even that, if in either of those states you gave 100% of the 3rd party votes to the Republicans (which is extremely generous because green party voters would drastically vote D not R) the the republicans still would have lost those states.
 

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The voters don't chose the president otherwise we'd have had Gore instead of Bush.

The fault for this lies in the corrupt system of politics and the good old boys network of political parties who fight it out with each other in public, and go back in private sipping cognac laughing.....

I know you're upset by it, but saying the shit the parties tried to spoon feed the public, which some decided to spit out, is to blame for this is laughable, not realistic. Even if you gave every 3rd party vote for the last 2 elections to your favorite candidate it wouldn't have changed a god damned thing, go look at the numbers, votes per state, and the electoral college results, it's winner take all. :)


In 2012, the only states with a close enough margin to even consider 3rd parties spoiling it for the the Republicans were Florida, and Ohio, which even if they had of won, would have still lost to Obama, but even that, if in either of those states you gave 100% of the 3rd party votes to the Republicans (which is extremely generous because green party voters would drastically vote D not R) the the republicans still would have lost those states.

There you go with that logical math shit again. :eek
 

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No offense, but anyone who didn't see this coming hasn't been paying attention.
Obama is first and foremost interested in his own ass. Hillary getting indicted might make it a bit hot around his buttocks, and he wouldn't allow that to happen. He came out and endorsed her weeks ago. That was a public acknowledgement that the fix was in, but it was probably in long before that. No way he is going to have his hand selected and deal-already-done his successor indicted. Wouldn't look good for him. His ego would not allow that.
No way.
There is no love between the Obamas and Clintons, but they have enough dirt on each other for mutually assured destruction, so they work to see that things go they way they want them to go.
Comey went off the reservation today. He won't get fired because that would muck up the works. Bad Optics. He may force them to accept his resignation in a few weeks. There are two possible reasons for his statement.
He laid out the case against her clearly. He then added specific intent as a requirement for sending in a recommendation for indictment. The applicable sections of Title 18 USC has no element of specific intent to meet the criteria for a completed violation of the crime. That makes no sense.
Until you realize Comey knows he was making a statement that was instantly becoming part of history for the next 100 years.
Comey knew that Lynch wouldn't file. He wanted to give history a clear picture of the depth of corruption in the government.
Period.
Or, he was in on it and had to find a way to quash the case.
Either could be the truth or some combination thereof is.
The result however, is that the Clinton's are much much closer to the White House again, and if you think Obama was bad for the country just wait.
This woman has not once in her adult life been held responsible for her actions in public life. She has never known restraint, has no respect for the law or for the people, she is a Socialist Race-baiting power hungry creature with no check on her appetites for power and control, and she will do everything in her power to fundamentally change the republic, while enriching herself as much as possible in the process. Should she take the senate or the house in the process...or God Forbid both, well the angle of descent will increase a bunch.
Imagine a SCOTUS packed with Clinton selected justices.
Those folks in other states who have found humor in the plight of good people in California and New York and the stripping of second amendment rights in those states can assume the light they see in the tunnel is the SCOTUS train headed directly towards you, and your gun safe.
How does the United Socialist States of America sound?


It would be selfish of me to say I will be long gone before the mission of the Progressive/Socialist movement is completed, so I won't see the last breath of the Republic, but my children might, and my grandchildren will.
And that enrages me.
All I can do is make dang sure they know the truth, and know how we destroyed the gift our forefathers paid for in blood. Decades of voter turn out percentages in the teens, College graduates who can't tell you who bombed us at Pearl Harbor but demand safe spaces and free college.
People willing to trade their liberty for the goodies a government with a printing press can give. People who allow their children to be indoctrinated by an education system askew with leftest ideals and do nothing about it or nothing to counteract the indoctrination...
People who stand by while their government tramples the Constitution.
If those who follow us know how we managed to destroy the great experiment that has been America then they will know how to see to it that, should free men rise up again someday and decide that the declaration of Independence and the Constitution that followed it are worth a second try, well.. perhaps they will get it right.

The one thing he did not address was the linkage to and investigation of the Clinton Foundation. I wonder why.
 

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You quoted me, and I imagine there is a good reason for that. So I am going to come back and read this slower, again. Because it seems you are either agreeing with what I said but saying I am wrong, or you are arguing with yourself. I don't know which, yet.

Brian

The voters don't chose the president otherwise we'd have had Gore instead of Bush.

The fault for this lies in the corrupt system of politics and the good old boys network of political parties who fight it out with each other in public, and go back in private sipping cognac laughing.....

I know you're upset by it, but saying the shit the parties tried to spoon feed the public, which some decided to spit out, is to blame for this is laughable, not realistic. Even if you gave every 3rd party vote for the last 2 elections to your favorite candidate it wouldn't have changed a god damned thing, go look at the numbers, votes per state, and the electoral college results, it's winner take all. :)


In 2012, the only states with a close enough margin to even consider 3rd parties spoiling it for the the Republicans were Florida, and Ohio, which even if they had of won, would have still lost to Obama, but even that, if in either of those states you gave 100% of the 3rd party votes to the Republicans (which is extremely generous because green party voters would drastically vote D not R) the the republicans still would have lost those states.
 

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Truely a sad day for America.

Things are going to get "interesting" very soon.

Keep your range practice.
 

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HRC's confidence is bolstered once again by the fact she does as she pleases and it all "gets worked out". Sadly have to witness the fact the FBI and the judicial branch have no backbone and will not do their jobs when a major political issue comes in front of their faces.

This came about as most all expected because we know our government has morphed into something completely contrary to written laws and rules. But it is not end by any means as the only candidate to so far speak his mind, no matter how crude his thoughts come out, still has an outside chance to uproot the "establishment" destroying the nation.

If HRC had been indicted, Uncle Joe would have won hands down with the blessing of the Sanders backers bolstering his numbers. With Joe we would only had ignorance to deal with at least. Not the total corruption and enemy favored backroom deals HRC brings.:thumbsdown
 

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I watched it myself.


All you fuckheads who voted for bob and other third candidates with no chance to win the last two election cycles have brought us to this point. You are all fucking idiots. Thanks for playing.

Was this your own statement, or was this part of a quote that was un-attributed?

This has nothing to do with 3rd party candidates, that is my only point in response.
 

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The timing of the FBI announcement is so uncanny. Think for a second, she is on the campaign trail with Obama today and likely would have faced a barrage of unfriendly questions about Bill's meeting with Lynch, now she gets to answer any questions relating with "The FBI recommended no charges be filed".
 

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General Petraeus was charged with "Mishandling confidential material" which was a misdemeanor.


Seems that would set a precedent.


Whatever. :thumbsdown:thumbsdown:thumbsdown
 

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I am shocked it took this long... those pay outs/black mail/ favors must have been huge.



having had a security clearance in the past ( and still bound to some things) I would have been QM and in Leavenworth if I gave out the smallest tidbit of info, let alone let secured documents be compromised.

for example while in the USCG, I was regularly in charge of escorting navel vessels in and out of port. ( trust me, get the fuck out of the way, a interdiction of any kind will be very bad for you) I was always given several days heads up, but if told the crew of the boat before they were on watch the day of... lets just say my ass was grass.


then there was the time that I worked at the nuke plant( painter) we were all but strip searched on the way in and out. I don't even want to think who would come knocking at my door if I were to give the details of security and that was from 04-05 I am sure they have changed drasticly since then.
 

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It is probably the saddest thing I have seen in politics ever. The personal; bashing and even Bill Clinton screwing everything in site doesn't even come close to the messed up shit that I am witnessing now. She can blatantly break the law commit treason and just stick it everyones face. One would there would be a revolution over something like this but the government has become way to powerful for something like this to happen. If something doesn't happen to change the direction of this the USA is screwed. It will survive but the few elite will completely control it without most even knowing what is going on. The last chance to stop it is this election if you guys can.
 

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Uncle Sam is getting pissed on on a daily basis
 

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18 US Code 798 -

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information.
(1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes.
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b) As used in subsection (a) of this section.
The term classified information means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms code, cipher, and cryptographic system include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term foreign government includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term communication intelligence means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term unauthorized person means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c) Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law
(A) any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B) any of the person's property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).
(3) Except as provided in paragraph (4), the provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)(p)), shall apply to
(A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection;
(B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and
(C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property,
if not inconsistent with this subsection.
(4) Notwithstanding section 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund established under section 1402 of the Victims of Crime Act of 1984 (42 U.S.C. 10601) all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law.
(5) As used in this subsection, the term State means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and any territory or possession of the United States.
 

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240 years and 1 day. This isn't what those men had planned when they signed the Declaration.
 

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THE CORNER THE ONE AND ONLY. FBI Rewrites Federal Law to Let Hillary Off the Hook

ANDREW C. MCCARTHY July 5, 2016 12:45 PM

There is no way of getting around this: According to Director James Comey (disclosure: a former colleague and longtime friend of mine), Hillary Clinton checked every box required for a felony violation of Section 793(f) of the federal penal code (Title 18):

With lawful access to highly classified information she acted with gross negligence in removing and causing it to be removed it from its proper place of custody, and she transmitted it and caused it to be transmitted to others not authorized to have it, in patent violation of her trust.

Director Comey even conceded that former Secretary Clinton was ?extremely careless? and strongly suggested that her recklessness very likely led to communications (her own and those she corresponded with) being intercepted by foreign intelligence services.

Yet, Director Comey recommended against prosecution of the law violations he clearly found on the ground that there was no intent to harm the United States.

In essence, in order to give Mrs. Clinton a pass, the FBI rewrote the statute, inserting an intent element that Congress did not require. The added intent element, moreover, makes no sense: The point of having a statute that criminalizes gross negligence is to underscore that government officials have a special obligation to safeguard national defense secrets; when they fail to carry out that obligation due to gross negligence, they are guilty of serious wrongdoing.

The lack of intent to harm our country is irrelevant. People never intend the bad things that happen due to gross negligence. I would point out, moreover, that there are other statutes that criminalize unlawfully removing and transmitting highly classified information with intent to harm the United States. Being not guilty (and, indeed, not even accused) of Offense B does not absolve a person of guilt on Offense A, which she has committed.

It is a common tactic of defense lawyers in criminal trials to set up a straw-man for the jury: a crime the defendant has not committed. The idea is that by knocking down a crime the prosecution does not allege and cannot prove, the defense may confuse the jury into believing the defendant is not guilty of the crime charged. Judges generally do not allow such sleight-of-hand because innocence on an uncharged crime is irrelevant to the consideration of the crimes that actually have been charged.

It seems to me that this is what the FBI has done today. It has told the public that because Mrs. Clinton did not have intent to harm the United States we should not prosecute her on a felony that does not require proof of intent to harm the United States.

Meanwhile, although there may have been profound harm to national security caused by her grossly negligent mishandling of classified information, we?ve decided she shouldn?t be prosecuted for grossly negligent mishandling of classified information. I think highly of Jim Comey personally and professionally, but this makes no sense to me.

Finally, I was especially unpersuaded by Director Comey?s claim that no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case based on the evidence uncovered by the FBI. To my mind, a reasonable prosecutor would ask: Why did Congress criminalize the mishandling of classified information through gross negligence? The answer, obviously, is to prevent harm to national security. So then the reasonable prosecutor asks: Was the statute clearly violated, and if yes, is it likely that Mrs. Clinton?s conduct caused harm to national security?

If those two questions are answered in the affirmative, I believe many, if not most, reasonable prosecutors would feel obliged to bring the case.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/437479/fbi-rewrites-federal-law-let-hillary-hook
 

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Maybe a coincidence but when I clicked on the Yahoo link about this story the advertisement video preceding the actual news video was an ad for KY Touch... 20 seconds of KY Touch then Comey's announcement...
 

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Not quite yet. Hillary hasn't appointed Obama to replace Scalia.

That's some of the most vile, disrespectful shit I've ever heard.

Never happen though.

Would require him to work instead of golf...
 

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Some peeps think the whole thing is funny, a few members here even.

Pretty fucking sad when people don't even respect the rule of law anymore all while our own freedoms are being infringed upon.

Sheep to slaughter.

Brian

It is probably the saddest thing I have seen in politics ever. The personal; bashing and even Bill Clinton screwing everything in site doesn't even come close to the messed up shit that I am witnessing now. She can blatantly break the law commit treason and just stick it everyones face. One would there would be a revolution over something like this but the government has become way to powerful for something like this to happen. If something doesn't happen to change the direction of this the USA is screwed. It will survive but the few elite will completely control it without most even knowing what is going on. The last chance to stop it is this election if you guys can.
 

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That's some of the most vile, disrespectful shit I've ever heard.

Never happen though.

Would require him to work instead of golf...

By work, you mean just vote the way the other liberal justices vote. Write a paper maybe. Noted.

Brian
 

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care?less?ness
ˈkerləsnəs/
noun
failure to give sufficient attention to avoiding harm or errors; negligence.

Huh who knew.
 

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General Petraeus was charged with "Mishandling confidential material" which was a misdemeanor.


Seems that would set a precedent.


Whatever. :thumbsdown:thumbsdown:thumbsdown

I seriously doubt a misdemeanor would remove her from the race unless she was running as a Republican.:thumbsdown
 

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What I'm curious about is where the major oil companies stand on HRC. While in the Senate she was pushing to limit Big Oil profits and wanted a cap on profit percentages. Surely they have not forgotten such harmfu action by the bitch.

Big business in general should be wary of her intents no matter what she'd offered up fro sale.

I keep seeing her skate, but at the end of the campaign, I cannot see how so many will just allow her to win.

This was just 1 of many battles to beat her back, a big one, but still there is the war that can be won. Got to stay positive.
 

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And yet despite all the terrible horrible things Hillary has done and/or been accused of doing. The Republicans still cant nominate a candidate that has more than a long shot chance at beating her.

That dear friends says a lot more about the Republican situation than it does about Hillary.


So instead of blaming Liberals and Democrats for nominating and electing (what is likely going to be) 16 years of the worst thing ever to happen to our great country. Blame yourselves for being so shitty as to get beat by them.

Further, (and please somebody get this message to Republicans in office) if your sole political strategy is to tell us how bad the other person is without offering up a single bit of credible evidence as to why you are better things are not going to change.
 

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And yet despite all the terrible horrible things Hillary has done and/or been accused of doing. The Republicans still cant nominate a candidate that has more than a long shot chance at beating her.

That dear friends says a lot more about the Republican situation than it does about Hillary.


So instead of blaming Liberals and Democrats for nominating and electing (what is likely going to be) 16 years of the worst thing ever to happen to our great country. Blame yourselves for being so shitty as to get beat by them.

Further, (and please somebody get this message to Republicans in office) if your sole political strategy is to tell us how bad the other person is without offering up a single bit of credible evidence as to why you are better things are not going to change.

Ah yes...the Barney Frank defense.
 
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