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Eating animals has been practiced for at least 50x longer. Mmmmmmm cheese burgers 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
PS not according to your new Speaker of the House. He’s a young Earth creationist who believes humans started eating meat after they were kicked out of the Garden of Eden 6000 years ago.
 

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Apparently the Catholic Church in Ireland used to equate blowjobs and first trimester abortions in terms of required penance. Hope Snickers doesn’t get any BJs he needs to atone for!

“It’s sometimes assumed that Christianity has always unequivocally condemned abortion but Maeve Callan, a professor and historian of religion at Simpson College in Iowa, said this misrepresents the past.

“People act like there’s only one acceptable attitude towards abortion if you’re Catholic, or if you’re Christian more broadly, or even if you’re religious more broadly. And there’s always been a diversity of viewpoints,” said Callan, the author of the book “Sacred Sisters: Gender, Sanctity, and Power in Medieval Ireland.”

Her research, along with other scholars, has uncovered four medieval Irish saints who celebrated ending pregnancy among their miracles, according to medieval manuscripts that described saints’ lives. Typically, these miracles include a nun who has breached her vow to chastity and become pregnant but, through the saint’s intervention, the pregnancy miraculously disappears.

The most famous was Saint Brigid, a lesser-known patron saint of Ireland than Patrick, and one whose standing was honored with an inaugural public holiday this year.

According to a churchman named Cogitosus,who wrote the first biography of Brigid around650 AD — some 200 years after her birth — she miraculously ended a woman’s unwanted pregnancy, “causing the fetus to disappear without coming to birth and without pain.”

Dancers perform in front of an image of St. Brigid projected onto The Wonderful Barn in Leixlip, Kildare, Ireland, Tuesday, Jan. 31, 2023 during the Herstory Festival of Light. St. Brigid of Kildare, a younger contemporary of St. Patrick, is quietly and steadily gaining a following, in Ireland and abroad. Devotees see Brigid, and the ancient Irish goddess whose name and attributes she shares, as emblematic of feminine spirituality and empowerment. (AP Photo/Peter Morrison)

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Dancers perform in front of an image of St. Brigid projected onto The Wonderful Barn in Leixlip, Kildare, Ireland, on January 31.
Another saint, Ciarán of Saigir, rescued a nun abducted by a king, according to a biography: “When the man of God returned to the monastery with the girl, she confessed that she was pregnant. Then the man of God, led by the zeal of justice, not wishing the serpent’s seed to quicken, pressed down on her womb with the sign of the cross and forced her womb to be emptied.”

Callan is quick to point out that these Irish saints weren’t champions of choice for women when it came to unwanted pregnancy, nor was it likely that these saints actually performed abortions.

“The miracles show people’s attitudes toward abortion and in some circumstances it was seen as acceptable, even as a miraculous blessing.”


According to Callan, the Old Irish Penitential, a book that details punishments for sins, the penance for abortion depended on the stage of pregnancy, divided into three, like trimesters: In the first, three and a half years of penance; in the second, seven years; in the third, 14 years. But as Callan put it, “pretty much everything was a sin.” The Old Irish Penitential also stipulates that oral sex merits four or five years’ penance the first time, seven years if it is repeated.

“It’s not permissive. Abortion is not okay (according to these teachings). It’s just less of a sin.”


The idea that life begins at conception becomes dominant in Catholic teachings only about 150 years ago, according to Callan.

Previously, Catholic teachings suggested that a fetus becomes a person some weeks if not months later, once it receives a rational soul — known as “ensoulment.” This often gets associated with “quickening,” when the mother feels the fetus move for the first time, generally in the fifth month of pregnancy.

It wasn’t until 1588, that Pope Sixtus V officially classified abortion, regardless of the stage of fetal development, as homicide. However, after Sixtus’s death in 1590, Pope Gregory XIV quickly rolled back the dictate, limiting it to ensouled fetuses.”
 

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Yeah, be sure to tell us why guys who insist hunting is the only way to control elk and moose populations (or whatever species you chose) simultaneously insist they need to hunt wolves so they don’t kill all the game species. Clubbing baby seals is a fitting metaphor for to to chose; I’m sure you’d enjoy that or working at animal control gassing puppies if you ever got the chance. Just don’t pretend you’re motivated by anything other than the joy of killing.
Didn't you shoot a bear for no reason?
 

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Apparently the Catholic Church in Ireland used to equate blowjobs and first trimester abortions in terms of required penance. Hope Snickers doesn’t get any BJs he needs to atone for!

“It’s sometimes assumed that Christianity has always unequivocally condemned abortion but Maeve Callan, a professor and historian of religion at Simpson College in Iowa, said this misrepresents the past.

“People act like there’s only one acceptable attitude towards abortion if you’re Catholic, or if you’re Christian more broadly, or even if you’re religious more broadly. And there’s always been a diversity of viewpoints,” said Callan, the author of the book “Sacred Sisters: Gender, Sanctity, and Power in Medieval Ireland.”

Her research, along with other scholars, has uncovered four medieval Irish saints who celebrated ending pregnancy among their miracles, according to medieval manuscripts that described saints’ lives. Typically, these miracles include a nun who has breached her vow to chastity and become pregnant but, through the saint’s intervention, the pregnancy miraculously disappears.

The most famous was Saint Brigid, a lesser-known patron saint of Ireland than Patrick, and one whose standing was honored with an inaugural public holiday this year.

According to a churchman named Cogitosus,who wrote the first biography of Brigid around650 AD — some 200 years after her birth — she miraculously ended a woman’s unwanted pregnancy, “causing the fetus to disappear without coming to birth and without pain.”

Dancers perform in front of an image of St. Brigid projected onto The Wonderful Barn in Leixlip, Kildare, Ireland, Tuesday, Jan. 31, 2023 during the Herstory Festival of Light. St. Brigid of Kildare, a younger contemporary of St. Patrick, is quietly and steadily gaining a following, in Ireland and abroad. Devotees see Brigid, and the ancient Irish goddess whose name and attributes she shares, as emblematic of feminine spirituality and empowerment. (AP Photo/Peter Morrison)

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Dancers perform in front of an image of St. Brigid projected onto The Wonderful Barn in Leixlip, Kildare, Ireland, on January 31.
Another saint, Ciarán of Saigir, rescued a nun abducted by a king, according to a biography: “When the man of God returned to the monastery with the girl, she confessed that she was pregnant. Then the man of God, led by the zeal of justice, not wishing the serpent’s seed to quicken, pressed down on her womb with the sign of the cross and forced her womb to be emptied.”

Callan is quick to point out that these Irish saints weren’t champions of choice for women when it came to unwanted pregnancy, nor was it likely that these saints actually performed abortions.

“The miracles show people’s attitudes toward abortion and in some circumstances it was seen as acceptable, even as a miraculous blessing.”


According to Callan, the Old Irish Penitential, a book that details punishments for sins, the penance for abortion depended on the stage of pregnancy, divided into three, like trimesters: In the first, three and a half years of penance; in the second, seven years; in the third, 14 years. But as Callan put it, “pretty much everything was a sin.” The Old Irish Penitential also stipulates that oral sex merits four or five years’ penance the first time, seven years if it is repeated.

“It’s not permissive. Abortion is not okay (according to these teachings). It’s just less of a sin.”


The idea that life begins at conception becomes dominant in Catholic teachings only about 150 years ago, according to Callan.

Previously, Catholic teachings suggested that a fetus becomes a person some weeks if not months later, once it receives a rational soul — known as “ensoulment.” This often gets associated with “quickening,” when the mother feels the fetus move for the first time, generally in the fifth month of pregnancy.

It wasn’t until 1588, that Pope Sixtus V officially classified abortion, regardless of the stage of fetal development, as homicide. However, after Sixtus’s death in 1590, Pope Gregory XIV quickly rolled back the dictate, limiting it to ensouled fetuses.”

HORSE SHIT. First and foremost Professor Callan is a widley disregarded heretic. Citing her and her feeble attempt at revisionist history blows right past comical into delusional. I dare you to find the sources that clown uses to cite her work and read them for yourself. Let me know if you need help translating Latin.
 

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Apparently the Catholic Church in Ireland used to equate blowjobs and first trimester abortions in terms of required penance. Hope Snickers doesn’t get any BJs he needs to atone for!

“It’s sometimes assumed that Christianity has always unequivocally condemned abortion but Maeve Callan, a professor and historian of religion at Simpson College in Iowa, said this misrepresents the past.

“People act like there’s only one acceptable attitude towards abortion if you’re Catholic, or if you’re Christian more broadly, or even if you’re religious more broadly. And there’s always been a diversity of viewpoints,” said Callan, the author of the book “Sacred Sisters: Gender, Sanctity, and Power in Medieval Ireland.”

Her research, along with other scholars, has uncovered four medieval Irish saints who celebrated ending pregnancy among their miracles, according to medieval manuscripts that described saints’ lives. Typically, these miracles include a nun who has breached her vow to chastity and become pregnant but, through the saint’s intervention, the pregnancy miraculously disappears.

The most famous was Saint Brigid, a lesser-known patron saint of Ireland than Patrick, and one whose standing was honored with an inaugural public holiday this year.

According to a churchman named Cogitosus,who wrote the first biography of Brigid around650 AD — some 200 years after her birth — she miraculously ended a woman’s unwanted pregnancy, “causing the fetus to disappear without coming to birth and without pain.”

Dancers perform in front of an image of St. Brigid projected onto The Wonderful Barn in Leixlip, Kildare, Ireland, Tuesday, Jan. 31, 2023 during the Herstory Festival of Light. St. Brigid of Kildare, a younger contemporary of St. Patrick, is quietly and steadily gaining a following, in Ireland and abroad. Devotees see Brigid, and the ancient Irish goddess whose name and attributes she shares, as emblematic of feminine spirituality and empowerment. (AP Photo/Peter Morrison)

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Dancers perform in front of an image of St. Brigid projected onto The Wonderful Barn in Leixlip, Kildare, Ireland, on January 31.
Another saint, Ciarán of Saigir, rescued a nun abducted by a king, according to a biography: “When the man of God returned to the monastery with the girl, she confessed that she was pregnant. Then the man of God, led by the zeal of justice, not wishing the serpent’s seed to quicken, pressed down on her womb with the sign of the cross and forced her womb to be emptied.”

Callan is quick to point out that these Irish saints weren’t champions of choice for women when it came to unwanted pregnancy, nor was it likely that these saints actually performed abortions.

“The miracles show people’s attitudes toward abortion and in some circumstances it was seen as acceptable, even as a miraculous blessing.”


According to Callan, the Old Irish Penitential, a book that details punishments for sins, the penance for abortion depended on the stage of pregnancy, divided into three, like trimesters: In the first, three and a half years of penance; in the second, seven years; in the third, 14 years. But as Callan put it, “pretty much everything was a sin.” The Old Irish Penitential also stipulates that oral sex merits four or five years’ penance the first time, seven years if it is repeated.

“It’s not permissive. Abortion is not okay (according to these teachings). It’s just less of a sin.”


The idea that life begins at conception becomes dominant in Catholic teachings only about 150 years ago, according to Callan.

Previously, Catholic teachings suggested that a fetus becomes a person some weeks if not months later, once it receives a rational soul — known as “ensoulment.” This often gets associated with “quickening,” when the mother feels the fetus move for the first time, generally in the fifth month of pregnancy.

It wasn’t until 1588, that Pope Sixtus V officially classified abortion, regardless of the stage of fetal development, as homicide. However, after Sixtus’s death in 1590, Pope Gregory XIV quickly rolled back the dictate, limiting it to ensouled fetuses.”
For a fish cop you sure cut and paste a lot. Better than your old drive bud though, but you do cream your jeans, as you once said.
 

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Need help connecting the dots? My guns made society a little safer; Nganga’s have not. Instead Nganga hangs out with the likes of Regor and fantasizes about kicking off another civil war.

It’s what the 2A was made for dope!!! 😆

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We have a duty to remove an oppressive government. Says so right in the Declaration of Independence!!!!

The Declaration of Independence says that we not only have the right but we also have the duty to alter or abolish any government that does not secure our unalienable rights, including life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

See the border faggot……….
 

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It’s what the 2A was made for dope!!! 😆

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We have a duty to remove an oppressive government. Says so right in the Declaration of Independence!!!!

The Declaration of Independence says that we not only have the right but we also have the duty to alter or abolish any government that does not secure our unalienable rights, including life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

See the border faggot……….
You sound just like one of these incel spree killers, shooting up your school because none of the cheerleaders would let you pursue your happiness. The Founders gave you a Republic and the right to vote so we wouldn't have to spend the rest of our existence in civil war. In a society there will always be malcontents and they are not entitled to perpetuate violence just because they're miserable losers. Just a few years after defeating the British, George Washington put down the Whiskey Rebellion by a bunch of crybabies like you that didn't want to pay the debts our country incurred during the Revolution. They were traitors to the Republic and so are you.
 

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You have got to be kidding?
You sound just like one of these incel spree killers, shooting up your school because none of the cheerleaders would let you pursue your happiness. The Founders gave you a Republic and the right to vote so we wouldn't have to spend the rest of our existence in civil war. In a society there will always be malcontents and they are not entitled to perpetuate violence just because they're miserable losers. Just a few years after defeating the British, George Washington put down the Whiskey Rebellion by a bunch of crybabies like you that didn't want to pay the debts our country incurred during the Revolution. They were traitors to the Republic and so are you.

By extension then, you sound like one of the Trans Rights spree killers because you aren’t allowed to speak your truth. 😂
 

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You sound just like one of these incel spree killers, shooting up your school because none of the cheerleaders would let you pursue your happiness. The Founders gave you a Republic and the right to vote so we wouldn't have to spend the rest of our existence in civil war. In a society there will always be malcontents and they are not entitled to perpetuate violence just because they're miserable losers. Just a few years after defeating the British, George Washington put down the Whiskey Rebellion by a bunch of crybabies like you that didn't want to pay the debts our country incurred during the Revolution. They were traitors to the Republic and so are you.
Daaang Dude. Slow down on the HRT's. You're going to pop a roid.
 

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You sound just like one of these incel spree killers, shooting up your school because none of the cheerleaders would let you pursue your happiness. The Founders gave you a Republic and the right to vote so we wouldn't have to spend the rest of our existence in civil war. In a society there will always be malcontents and they are not entitled to perpetuate violence just because they're miserable losers. Just a few years after defeating the British, George Washington put down the Whiskey Rebellion by a bunch of crybabies like you that didn't want to pay the debts our country incurred during the Revolution. They were traitors to the Republic and so are you.



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It REALLY is that simple with you faggot ass nerds. 🤣


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PS not according to your new Speaker of the House. He’s a young Earth creationist who believes humans started eating meat after they were kicked out of the Garden of Eden 6000 years ago.
Dude, stand down. God said it's totally OK. Even domesticated animals, fowl, bovine, goats, sheep, rabbit, horse, and dog.
All animals on this earth belong to man. Responsible animal husbandry is no joke, it is a serious business, tame or wild.

For example. Tasty Deer are being decimated all over the country by disease. Better not eat the meat. Bitch about that.
 

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I have no problem with eating animals. I do it every day and elk hunt myself. But Nganga isn’t killing elephants to feed his family any more than he’s doing it to support conservation. He’s doing it because he enjoying killing intelligent animals that feel emotional pain. I suppose elk do too at some level, but I think there’s a continuum from shellfish at one end to the great apes, elephants, and whales at the other. Nobody needs to kill any of those for sport.

Ohhhh so the animals you kill are all good, but the animals someone else kills are a crime.

Typical Liberal DOUCHE 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 

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LOL


That’s due to TDS and yore a perfect example clown.

Johnson should do a website wide poll and ask if we are better off now or when Trump was president?

They all see you Mrs. Granger………

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Catch and Release right?
CL, the guy is a joke. There are numerous real LEO on this board. How many go around trying to make themself sound important?
There are former military here as well how many feel the need to tell a story to bolster their creditability, answer none.

When you have a person trying to thump their chest they are nothing more than a clown.
 

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CL, the guy is a joke. There are numerous real LEO on this board. How many go around trying to make themself sound important?
There are former military here as well how many feel the need to tell a story to bolster their creditability, answer none.

When you have a person trying to thump their chest they are nothing more than a clown.
Yep, he’s a Clown Fish “cop”

Total tool
 

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When was you last psych profile to determine you’re mentally fit to own a firearm? Personally I’d say anybody who’d kill an intelligent, empathetic animal like an elephant just for the joy of killing probably shouldn’t own a firearm. Kinda like those children who torture puppies and grow up to be serial killers.
FFS....Who is this silly MF
 
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