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Schiada vs. Hallett Vector

RiverDave

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Vectors typically have a lighter layup and take less power to go fast. Schiada will out perform it in rough water. Power to Power in good water. I think the Vector beats it. I’m talking realistic power. Say 600-1000 HP.

You get in some snotty water and the Schiada would walk away… I also think the Schiada Hull is a much stronger built boat.

It depends on the vector.. the ski race ones are stout
 

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I will never forget a red and white v-drive Vector at Boat Brokers probably 25 years ago, I believe it had gold anodized rigging........super bad ass. It looked like it had been sitting outside.........needed to be cleaned up and buffed......under 15k. I was a broke 25 year old and just could not swing it. Looking back I should have robbed a convenient store or something.
 

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By far the best looking Vector I have ever seen, for a bonus it's parked right next to my #2 favorite Vector, Coin Toss. The rigging and gel work on these two boats is mind blowing. Tom Peterson and Scott Kornowski at the top of their respective games.

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I remember chatting with Richard Lee the engine builder. He said he would never ride in a big-powered vector. What prompted that thought process I have no idea but it struck a cord with me.

As far my own personal choice; until I see a Vector run the number's Alexi's red boat put up, I'll go with Schiada.
 

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what are the benefits?

what handling characteristics are noticed? (I've only ever driven 2 RC's, and only one over 70ish)
I did not notice any difference at slow or medium speeds, up to 90. They still dont back up for shit with either rudder. High speed turns and increased top end are noticeably better with the external rudder. The external rudder slowed the SR22 down by 15mph.
 
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Lots of big powered Vectors winning races and championships.
To be fair, ski racing is like a popularity contest when it comes to race boats. This is how it went when we were racing:

First everyone started out with Schiadas as the popular option, complete with carb’d gentry turbo motors and mostly v-drives.

Then Richard Lee showed up with his EFI turbo system and at the same time everyone jumped to Hallett Vectors as the boat to pair with that engine and a SSM #5 drive (or sticking with the tried and true v-drive). Lee had to get the bugs worked out as the EFI was pretty finicky at the time but then was solid. Mostly everyone switched to this combo.

Then the Hallet 210 came out and everyone was pairing Lee EFI motors with Merc #6 drives and plate setups long enough you could use as buffet tables. Mostly everyone then switched to this combo.

Then Randy came out with his Cyclone/Nordic and then started using Mercury Racing engines and #6 drives. At the same time he started putting Merc outboards on this hull as well. Then this became the hot ticket setup.

So Schiada and Hallett both had good runs as the top tier tow boat, and are still out there less well represented, but Randy has made Nordic the current must have among the Region II crowd for top tier skiers. I believe Avila’s latest is also a Nordic for Region I.

The fact that Randy can go out and spank the Parker Enduro with his ski race Nordic speaks volumes about its abilities and reliability for ski racing duties, and it’s a turn key package he can sell. And sell he does.

All the makes have a racing heritage and pedigree from everything they do, but it’s a hard game to remain relevant to the next new thing.

That being said I wouldn’t hesitate to pick up a Hallet Vector or 210 or a Schiada as an excellent boat even if we were still ski racing from someone selling for their own Nordic purchase.
 

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A guy I bought a boat from had the first v-drive vector and it wasn’t a great handling boat but I think it had more to do with some experimentation on his and maybe Carson’s part than hull design. The plates were mounted on what would best be described as a piano hinge and the v-drive was mounted very far forward. I know the boat rolled over turning to avoid a jet skier near Big Bend and remember it had big tourqe stear. It was ski raced and even raced Pacific Offshore and many changes were made to set up without much improvement.
Prior to that he had a Schiada that he won the Catalina race with when all the boats started at the same time. He took my wife and I to breakfast from Echo to Badnochs with his kids sitting on his and his wife’s lap one morning going over 100 mph according to the Nordskog speedo many times and made a u turn at Bluewater no less than 50 mph. That was the day a big horsepower v-drive Schiada became a must before I die. Anybody who likes fast boats needs to experience it at least once.
 

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By far the best looking Vector I have ever seen, for a bonus it's parked right next to my #2 favorite Vector, Coin Toss. The rigging and gel work on these two boats is mind blowing. Tom Peterson and Scott Kornowski at the top of their respective games.

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Oh my god !!
The blue vector
simply beautiful
 
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