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Putin, has accomplished causing dissension among the NATO Countries, and now going into Winter he is In The Drivers Seat and Running The Show. Once he accomplishes his plan, there's no going back.
 

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NATO Countries, have accomplished causing dissension among Putin's Russia, and now going into Winter he is In The Drivers Seat and Running The Show. Once he accomplishes his plan, there's no going back.
No charge bro.
 

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These J6 cowards want to send your children to war. 🤪
 

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To add more to the morbidity of the White House staff, This idiot on CNN said this to Jake Tapper. :rolleyes:





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Biden’s Deputy National Security Adviser says Americans should care about Ukraine because “borders should be inviolate…sovereignty should be respected.”
 

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my guess is the invasion will happen in the early spring when the weather conditions would be a factor and Russia is using the time now to get prepared. much like what China has been doing and would not be surprised at all if china moves on Taiwan at the same time, which reduces or military capacity.

at the end of the day, I don't think any level headed person WANTS a war, but you cant deny what is happening and to that end....i think if we do go down this road it wont be an easy task for russia or china.

we all remember the lopsided but kicking the Iraq war was......in the early days anyway. that was 20 years ago. our military capabilities have only gotten better. for all the people scared about what could happen, I don't see a huge military loss for the US.
 

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my guess is the invasion will happen in the early spring when the weather conditions would be a factor and Russia is using the time now to get prepared. much like what China has been doing and would not be surprised at all if china moves on Taiwan at the same time, which reduces or military capacity.

at the end of the day, I don't think any level headed person WANTS a war, but you cant deny what is happening and to that end....i think if we do go down this road it wont be an easy task for russia or china.

we all remember the lopsided but kicking the Iraq war was......in the early days anyway. that was 20 years ago. our military capabilities have only gotten better. for all the people scared about what could happen, I don't see a huge military loss for the US.


"The Mother Of All Wars"!!:cool:
 

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Battles with proxy countries, backed militants from camel-burp-istan, I'd wager would be quite different than fighting two of the largest standing armies. If there is to be a war, God help us.
If Russia were to invade Ukraine, it suits them better to move forward sooner rather than later. Their military is more well equipped and better trained for inclement weather. Add to that, their close proximity to the front, and the limited ability to get a sizeable back up contingent to the Ukraine.
Taiwan, I don't know about. I see China being patient, and waiting until Russia has made a move. Not just for depletion of possible military strength, but to see what, if anything, the old man in the White House does.

Are our soldiers better trained and better equipped? I hope so. I don't think it is ever wise to underestimate an opponent. More than anything though, I'd never place my faith in our current leadership.
 

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Battles with proxy countries, backed militants from camel-burp-istan, I'd wager would be quite different than fighting two of the largest standing armies. If there is to be a war, God help us.
If Russia were to invade Ukraine, it suits them better to move forward sooner rather than later. Their military is more well equipped and better trained for inclement weather. Add to that, their close proximity to the front, and the limited ability to get a sizeable back up contingent to the Ukraine.
Taiwan, I don't know about. I see China being patient, and waiting until Russia has made a move. Not just for depletion of possible military strength, but to see what, if anything, the old man in the White House does.

Are our soldiers better trained and better equipped? I hope so. I don't think it is ever wise to underestimate an opponent. More than anything though, I'd never place my faith in our current leadership.
the reason for them waiting is to judge the resolve of the US.

if they would have simply gone straight in, I don't doubt there would have been a US/NATO response. by letting all this play out in the US media they can gauge what our response and the public stomach for it may be. if they get the sense the public is against it, Biden is weak and so forth to me that assures they will go in. why do you suppose nance has come out with her statements (kinda mind blowing really) that we have to recognize their borders. nancy is trying to shore up the publics opinion of our needing to go in so their corrupt banking isn't interrupted.

are our soldiers better trained/ready/ I doubt it. but are our weapons systems, aircraft, information technology and space systems better then ever? i am betting they are. and that's how this would be fought rather then a heavy boots on the ground WW2 type scenario.
 

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my guess is the invasion will happen in the early spring when the weather conditions would be a factor and Russia is using the time now to get prepared. much like what China has been doing and would not be surprised at all if china moves on Taiwan at the same time, which reduces or military capacity.

at the end of the day, I don't think any level headed person WANTS a war, but you cant deny what is happening and to that end....i think if we do go down this road it wont be an easy task for russia or china.

we all remember the lopsided but kicking the Iraq war was......in the early days anyway. that was 20 years ago. our military capabilities have only gotten better. for all the people scared about what could happen, I don't see a huge military loss for the US.
Sorry but there is no way the US can beat the red Army on their doorstep. Their numbers are just too great on their home turf. Remember that every single transport plane and truck convoy would be attacked by Russian jets and missles. In fact, if they really wanted to escalate things in a hurry, they would hit our bases in Germany which would cripple our ability to make war. God forbid we tangle with them because there would likely be no winner.
 

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the reason for them waiting is to judge the resolve of the US.

if they would have simply gone straight in, I don't doubt there would have been a US/NATO response. by letting all this play out in the US media they can gauge what our response and the public stomach for it may be. if they get the sense the public is against it, Biden is weak and so forth to me that assures they will go in. why do you suppose nance has come out with her statements (kinda mind blowing really) that we have to recognize their borders. nancy is trying to shore up the publics opinion of our needing to go in so their corrupt banking isn't interrupted.

are our soldiers better trained/ready/ I doubt it. but are our weapons systems, aircraft, information technology and space systems better then ever? i am betting they are. and that's how this would be fought rather then a heavy boots on the ground WW2 type scenario.
Pelosi needs to go to hell...preferably soon. As with anyone else pushing it. The border talk is funny as hell...we've suffered a massive onslaught, and not a peep. Just keep taking care of them.

As for the technology, I used to think they were light-years behind. Then, they flipped a switch and temporarily blinded us. It shocked even the Pentagon. Do we have the same abilities? I'm pretty sure. Nobody is showing their hand. If they have functional hypersonic weapons, pretty sure we do. After all, how long did we keep the SR-71 under wraps from the public?

The weapons of war will constantly evolve. The end game is still the same, control. Be it of minds or land, control is what they want. How that is attained, I think we'll find out.
 

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Battles with proxy countries, backed militants from camel-burp-istan, I'd wager would be quite different than fighting two of the largest standing armies. If there is to be a war, God help us.
If Russia were to invade Ukraine, it suits them better to move forward sooner rather than later. Their military is more well equipped and better trained for inclement weather. Add to that, their close proximity to the front, and the limited ability to get a sizeable back up contingent to the Ukraine.
Taiwan, I don't know about. I see China being patient, and waiting until Russia has made a move. Not just for depletion of possible military strength, but to see what, if anything, the old man in the White House does.

Are our soldiers better trained and better equipped? I hope so. I don't think it is ever wise to underestimate an opponent. More than anything though, I'd never place my faith in our current leadership.
We have degraded into fighting polite war, Russia and Chyna will not.
 

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If Putin jumps it'll be when he returns from the China Olympics.
 

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Light up your afterburners and blaze out out to the 33,000 ft. view, do an Herbst maneuver and you'll begin to see that when the wall came down in 1989, Nazi infiltrator George Scherff* AKA, Poppy H.W. Bush and the D/S swooped in like buzzards eating the heart out of and picking on the bones of Russia.
They attempted to put them on the Rothschilds IMF central bankster debt slave system and looted them with installed puppets such as Boris Yeltsin the drunk puppet and Russian mob oligarchs.
Vladimir Putin saw this.
And he didn't like it.
And he still doesn't.

Call the man what you want, you may not like him or his methods but, dude is a serious patriot. (sound familiar?)
For HIS motherland.
He took over and booted the moneychangers, oligarchs and D/S operatives that were tearing his country apart.
And he I believe he IS going in.

It would it make sense if historically and to this day, that if the NWO Khazarian Mafia has been and still is located in Ukraine, Crimea and Khazakstan one would start to see what's really going down.
Khazakstan has been taken down.
Vlad is going to take out the rest.

The Medes are telling you that Russia is evil and have been for years, decades now (Cold War).
They want this war and always have. Now they are desperate.
How many times are they wrong? How many times people!?
Do a inversion shift of the narrative and you see truth.
It's Gaslighting. Propaganda. Sorcery.

The strategic value of Ukraine for Russia cannot be disputed.
Naval and commercial access to the Black Sea, farmland, natural resources, ect.
This is why it was overthrown in 2014 in the Maiden orange "revolution".
It was prepositioning of the chess board for the 16 year plan to takedown the world with war, starvation and pestilence.

When he goes in, it will be to mop up the evil filth that infests Ukraine and the Crimea.
Not the good people captured by an evil government. (sound familiar?)
Think about it. Child trafficking, money laundering, weapons, dope, election fraud, ect. Consistently the most corrupt country.
Think of why they brought in the Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine hoax? Did we wonder what's all the ruckus about this country?
They outed themselves because the patriots and Vlad were over the target. Basically they panicked flipped it and projected it on Trump to distract.

Why didn't Vlad take back Khazakstan when they are/were destabilized and is an easy target?
Why did he aid and abet Trump to help obliterate McSwine and maobamas' creation, ISIS?
If the enemies, The Medes, tell you he's so evil, why has he been so patient with the sheer buffoonery of of the Klain/Blinken handling of the last year?
He should be kicking us while we're down, with the Chicoms, Right?
Why does anyone, listen to the Medes anymore? I can't wrap my mind around it. And I'm done trying.

Will it get messy? More than likely, hang plumb and deal with it. The dogs of war were released long ago and they are still on a rage.
Sit back and watch the destruction of the dicks that have been wrecking humanity and this world for thousands of years.
NATO and D/S controlled countries are the aggressors. The truth is a bitch. Sack up.
Worry not though, there are safety backstops in place even when it will look grim. And it will get grim.

I have been to Ukraine. I went there numerous times after the Berlin Wall came down in the nineties with my ex-FIL on business with his natural gas company.
It was heartbreaking to see what the Communists and Nazis (Khazarian Mafia) had done to them. Unreal.
But, that's another story. Curse their souls to hell.

I for one am very excited for the people of the Crimea and Ukraine and their future to once and for all to be a country free of the
centuries of skullduggery and control. I hope Vlad gives no quarter to these demonic entities.
People can side with the Medes and this fake regimes criminal actions but, yup. I'm rooting for Vlad.
Melania is from Moldova and borders Ukraine, she knows how bad Eastern Europe and that area is. Think people.
They will get their asses handed to them by Vlads' boys and his ally our Commander in Chief. The real one.
And I can't wait.

I want go back soon someday. The country is beautiful, the people are a hard lot but as cool as they come.

And hey, the chicks are blowtorch HOT too! 😍💋😎👍

* https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_bush19.htm
 

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The Battle of Gog and Megog, Tribulations, and Great Tribulations. Leatherneck/Roughneck Dave talks about that here pretty quick. He's convinced. Mr. Bible., Chess Master. Boxer, Marine. 3 PH Viet Nam Vet. It sure doesn't sound pretty. Also something to consider is if Iran, Turkey, whoever, attack Israel. Russia has an Airbase in Syria. They are alll aligned with Russia. As I gather, from the Bible, Dave gathers that the Aswan Dam in Egypt also gets nuked, the Nile flows backwards.
Something about The Tower of Syeine? IDK. Doesn't look good at the moment. Be Prepared. Batten. Godspeed All.
 

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The Battle of Gog and Megog, Tribulations, and Great Tribulations. Leatherneck/Roughneck Dave talks about that here pretty quick. He's convinced. Mr. Bible., Chess Master. Boxer, Marine. 3 PH Viet Nam Vet. It sure doesn't sound pretty. Also something to consider is if Iran, Turkey, whoever, attack Israel. Russia has an Airbase in Syria. They are alll aligned with Russia. As I gather, from the Bible, Dave gathers that the Aswan Dam in Egypt also gets nuked, the Nile flows backwards.
Something about The Tower of Syeine? IDK. Doesn't look good at the moment. Be Prepared. Batten. Godspeed All.
You're on it like a hobo on a hotdog bro. 🌭👍
 

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Good analysis on the corruption in Russia and Ukraine. Hunter and the Big Guy thick in the thick of that Hot Mess as well.
Carpetbaggers All. Plus the pesecuction by Communists and the Nazis. Then since the Cold War, all the corruption, Russia too. Thanks. All the things we'll never see on the Evening news.
 

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Also something to consider is if Iran, Turkey, whoever, attack Israel.
Israel is being saved for last. The Khazarian, Talmudic Sabbatean fake Jews will be last to be sent to Tartarus by way of the river Phlegethon soon though
Aswan Dam in Egypt also gets nuked, the Nile flows backwards.
That nuke, along with weather chemicals of mass destruction (think global warming hoax), adrenochrome, children, adults, other horrors and weapons were reportedly seized off the Evergrand (Evergreen = Clinton Global Initiative/Wal Mart) container ship by SF teams when the patriots hacked it's controls and ran it into the side of the Suez Canal last year.
Supposedly there was a second nuke that was headed for Tel Aviv.
That timeline got crushed by the patriots. The hand of God.
 
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who is the antiwar party again? so hard to tell..........
 

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Will they send back the 100 tons of advanced military weapons Joe sent there?
 

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And who sent these Americans that are working in the area?

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Protect Ukraine and save the world Vlad!!!!
 

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