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Lol

He is going to fuck you in the ass and you are going to say he loves you. It is going to be glorious.


Someone's TDS is acting up!!!! 🤣


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I'm real curious about this...why would any country, not just Russia, have ICBM's loaded with conventional warheads? And why would you use missiles capable of that range, and target the area closest to your controlled area? This is essentially a stratospheric missile, and the warheads are considered reentry vehicles. This, if true, is the equivalent of using SpaceX to hit the neighor down the street.
Not to mention, the video really looks like launches of an MLRS.
 

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I'm real curious about this...why would any country, not just Russia, have ICBM's loaded with conventional warheads? And why would you use missiles capable of that range, and target the area closest to your controlled area? This is essentially a stratospheric missile, and the warheads are considered reentry vehicles. This, if true, is the equivalent of using SpaceX to hit the neighor down the street.
Not to mention, the video really looks like launches of an MLRS.

Warning shot. I don’t think the warheads were even loaded, just sending a message that this is getting very fucking serious if you continue to listen to the corrupt globalhomos of the West.
 

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I'm real curious about this...why would any country, not just Russia, have ICBM's loaded with conventional warheads? And why would you use missiles capable of that range, and target the area closest to your controlled area? This is essentially a stratospheric missile, and the warheads are considered reentry vehicles. This, if true, is the equivalent of using SpaceX to hit the neighor down the street.
Not to mention, the video really looks like launches of an MLRS.
Because their production capacity of conventional munitions cannot keep up with the current use rate.
 

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Who? Russia? Would you please;
Like with the majority of your posts. Don't be coy, please explain. Show your work. :D
 

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Because their production capacity of conventional munitions cannot keep up with the current use rate.
Unfortunately, the one thing communist countries can do well is keep up on weapons production. Just like cartels having ammunition, they may prioritize that over food. The media here has been saying they'll be out of weapons any day now, for 2 years. When the government owns the means for production, they can build it cheaply on the backs of the populace.

A Reaper drone costs tax payers roughly 30 million dollars. Somehow, goat herders in Yemen took down another one yesterday...I believe that is the 4th one in Yemen alone.

Now, if it was an actual ICBM launch (which neither Russia or the Pentagon have confirmed) it was not just to drop a few 600lb conventional warheads. It was done as a threat, or a show of force.

Oh, and just announced, Biden administration is looking to "forgive" 4 billion in Ukraine loans. You know, because it's only money 🤣
 

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Unfortunately, the one thing communist countries can do well is keep up on weapons production. Just like cartels having ammunition, they may prioritize that over food. The media here has been saying they'll be out of weapons any day now, for 2 years. When the government owns the means for production, they can build it cheaply on the backs of the populace.

A Reaper drone costs tax payers roughly 30 million dollars. Somehow, goat herders in Yemen took down another one yesterday...I believe that is the 4th one in Yemen alone.

Now, if it was an actual ICBM launch (which neither Russia or the Pentagon have confirmed) it was not just to drop a few 600lb conventional warheads. It was done as a threat, or a show of force.

Oh, and just announced, Biden administration is looking to "forgive" 4 billion in Ukraine loans. You know, because it's only money 🤣
I've been trying to convince a few peeps close to me Russia isn't out of weapons, or people for that matter. People who really want to know about Russian warfare should crack open a History book. One small example is how they defeated the Nazi's in WW2. They didn't fight them everyday for 6 years, they just poked them in the side occasionally and ground them down until they quit. IMO -This is exactly what they are doing now with Ukraine. According to the press, Russia is going to run out of ammo and quit any day now.......meanwhile pay no attention to the fact they are slowly gaining ground.

Zelensky is a next level evil dictator. Deny elections so he can't be removed, (how is that any different than Putin?) then launch missile attacks when he knows the Russians will retaliate while hiding in safety far from Kiev. Pure Evil.
 

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I've been trying to convince a few peeps close to me Russia isn't out of weapons, or people for that matter. People who really want to know about Russian warfare should crack open a History book. One small example is how they defeated the Nazi's in WW2. They didn't fight them everyday for 6 years, they just poked them in the side occasionally and ground them down until they quit. IMO -This is exactly what they are doing now with Ukraine. According to the press, Russia is going to run out of ammo and quit any day now.......meanwhile pay no attention to the fact they are slowly gaining ground.

Zelensky is a next level evil dictator. Deny elections so he can't be removed, (how is that any different than Putin?) then launch missile attacks when he knows the Russians will retaliate while hiding in safety far from Kiev. Pure Evil.
As I get older, I've decided there can be very little difference between dictator, president and royalty. Different names for a controller, but rarely a leader. All those safe and removed from danger, see no harm in putting others at risk. In my lifetime, that I know of, our government has backed some seriously demented groups to further an agenda.

As I get older, I also see the soldiers, both sides, as humans, and not just images on a screen. I know people with prosthetics now, from places far away. I saw the families of people lost on our side as well. They had brothers and sisters, parents and sometimes children. Change the uniform, or weapon in hand, but it's the same everywhere, for both sides of a conflict. Rarely, if ever, does a leader pay a price.
 

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So, the Ukrainian news: Rada will be out of session in Kiev until December. Apparently the government there has nothing pressing to handle right now, so they are taking an unscheduled recess.
Also, Zelensky is pissed, and has asked if anyone was warned about the ICBM strike. Hadn't thought about this, but the little guy is right. All the big players have the ability to know within seconds if an ICBM is launched. Even with SpaceX and NASA stuff, a memo goes out with time of launch, so an opposition country doesn't launch a counter attack thinking someone is firing a nuke at them. Well, a nuke capable missile was launched. Zelensky thinks the US was warned, and nobody warned him.
There is also a video on the web of the strike. Dark, so you can't see much more than blurs of fire streaking down.
 

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So, the Ukrainian news: Rada will be out of session in Kiev until December. Apparently the government there has nothing pressing to handle right now, so they are taking an unscheduled recess.
Also, Zelensky is pissed, and has asked if anyone was warned about the ICBM strike. Hadn't thought about this, but the little guy is right. All the big players have the ability to know within seconds if an ICBM is launched. Even with SpaceX and NASA stuff, a memo goes out with time of launch, so an opposition country doesn't launch a counter attack thinking someone is firing a nuke at them. Well, a nuke capable missile was launched. Zelensky thinks the US was warned, and nobody warned him.
There is also a video on the web of the strike. Dark, so you can't see much more than blurs of fire streaking down.

Of course he wasn't, nor will he be notified when the scum of the West lob a nuke at his ass, just a guess of course.

Meanwhile.................once again, things trace back to the Bath House Halfrican Fag as usual.


Obama's Ukraine Cover Up

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Everything circles back to Ukraine. And Obama...

THU NOV 21, AT 12:25 PM
 

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Of course he wasn't, nor will he be notified when the scum of the West lob a nuke at his ass, just a guess of course.
Me being the sick bastard I am, I gave it some thought. With the amount of "aid" sent and moved around, my guess would be there would already be a "dead man switch" in place already. Dropping one or launching one would be noticeable. If they waited until Russia was doing a conventional attack, and hit the button, evidence against the US misconduct would be turned to ash, and the records will show Russia had assets in the air and had weapons falling.
 

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Sooo, thought this was a little fitting. Look up the date of the start of the Maidan...the protests, turned riots and then civil war. The stuff we funded, and weren't told about.

As it turns out, 11/21/13.

As commemoration for this, we have now lived in an era in which we have seen an ICBM used in conflict. I hope it stops there.
 

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Well, guess what happened today...Yep, Ukraine lobbed another 8-10 missiles into the Kursk region. They may have been storm shadows or American ATACM's. In other news, Zelensky is now asking for American air launched cruise missiles, not Tomahawks though, something with lesser range.

Tit for tat, now the world waits and sees what's next.
 

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At present, unfortunately one needs to always be thinking like a criminal. That mindset opens up the realm of possibility.

From local to world affairs they are there. From tweekers to world leaders. And world leaders who are tweekers..

This shit hits close to home.
And anywhere the missles fall.
 

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Another conspiracy coming true before yore eyes…….. 🖕 🤣 🖕
Why do you think the top democrats were so upset when the Border “Security” Bill didn’t pass. They all thought they’d be getting a huge kickback and be set for life. But unfortunately the R’s did their due diligence and read the bill and found it did nothing for border security and was going to approve a huge chunk of money for Ukraine, and probably more than half would have been siphoned off to the D’s pockets. We all got burned on the Inflation Reduction Act because nobody read it through and all that did was raise inflation due to funneling the money to “green energy” programs which are never audited. I have never seen a politician who does not live a wealthy lifestyle - why is that?
 

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Why do you think the top democrats were so upset when the Border “Security” Bill didn’t pass. They all thought they’d be getting a huge kickback and be set for life. But unfortunately the R’s did their due diligence and read the bill and found it did nothing for border security and was going to approve a huge chunk of money for Ukraine, and probably more than half would have been siphoned off to the D’s pockets. We all got burned on the Inflation Reduction Act because nobody read it through and all that did was raise inflation due to funneling the money to “green energy” programs which are never audited. I have never seen a politician who does not live a wealthy lifestyle - why is that?

Don’t kid yourself, the @530RL Republicans are in on it also, right Turdman?

Why do you think scumbags like him and his friends do everything to influence the narrative that war is good?

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I thought there was some international non-proliferation treaty? Something that said nuclear powers couldn't arm others? The sad thing, the US is the only country that keeps nukes on bases around the world. Of course, to hear the government tell it, it's to keep things "peaceful".
 

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Apparently FEMA thought so, what you posted is page 2 of 2, from the original PDF guide issued March 2018 😁;)

Here's page 1

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If you really want to be prepared, FEMA has posted the updated version of the "Planning Guidance for Response to Nuclear Detonation" Revision # 4, the first edition was issued in 2009. At 258 pages, it's far more detailed survival guide.


Once again, you are welcome King 😊
 

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Apparently FEMA thought so, what you posted is page 2 of 2, from the original PDF guide issued March 2018 😁;)

Here's page 1

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If you really want to be prepared, FEMA has posted the updated version of the "Planning Guidance for Response to Nuclear Detonation" Revision # 4, the first edition was issued in 2009. At 258 pages, it's far more detailed survival guide.


Once again, you are welcome King 😊
Is FEMA going to help Trump supporters this time? Asking for a friend……
 

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Apparently FEMA thought so, what you posted is page 2 of 2, from the original PDF guide issued March 2018 😁;)

Here's page 1

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If you really want to be prepared, FEMA has posted the updated version of the "Planning Guidance for Response to Nuclear Detonation" Revision # 4, the first edition was issued in 2009. At 258 pages, it's far more detailed survival guide.


Once again, you are welcome King 😊

Atta boy T, that's the fact checking I expect! 👍
 

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Atta boy T, that's the fact checking I expect! 👍

F-ing around with the Dungeon King aside. That 258 page document I provided the link for is worth thumbing through.
For two reasons, one being just the general information contained regarding the affects and potentially surviving a nuclear blast.
The second, is, since this is the "Planning Guide for Response to a Nuclear Detonation", it provides insight into what you might expect or encounter post-blast.

I actually downloaded and saved it, despite given mine and my wife's age, I pray we're at ground zero, so far I've found it worth a read.
For some of you lefties and righties whom are obviously word challenged, it does have pictures 😁😉

Baby 10KT boom, for comparisons, if I recall, "Little Boy' we dropped on Hiroshama was around 15KT and 21KT for "Fat Man" at Nagasaki.

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F-ing around with the Dungeon King aside. That 258 page document I provided the link for is worth thumbing through.
For two reasons, one being just the general information contained regarding the affects and potentially surviving a nuclear blast.
The second, is, since this is the "Planning Guide for Response to a Nuclear Detonation", it provides insight into what you might expect or encounter post-blast.

I actually downloaded and saved it, despite given mine and my wife's age, I pray we're at ground zero, so far I've found it worth a read.
For some of you lefties and righties whom are obviously word challenged, it does have pictures 😁😉

Baby 10KT boom, for comparisons, if I recall, "Little Boy' we dropped on Hiroshama was around 15KT and 21KT for "Fat Man" at Nagasaki.

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Those figures though are a bit misleading. Those are all kiloton measurements. One megaton I think is considered small...50 times the force of Fatman. Total "Etch-a-Sketch" for a much bigger radius.
 

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Those figures though are a bit misleading. Those are all kiloton measurements. One megaton I think is considered small...50 times the force of Fatman. Total "Etch-a-Sketch" for a much bigger radius.
I agree, there's far more catastrophic examples, depending on size, altitude, number of warheads, terrain, etc. These examples are provided as examples relative to the response information provided to responding agencies by this document.
The potential for nukes being utilized to make a point, or to vest control, is probably more likely then one being used as the "Final Option" of total destruction.
 

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The potential for nukes being utilized to make a point, or to vest control, is probably more likely then one being used as the "Final Option" of total destruction.
I really hope so, but the more that happens, the less faith I have in leadership...globally, not just here, or Russia.

The model that I saw which really scared me, a single air burst high up over Kansas. The resulting EMP would cause massive disruption, yet the fallout and radiation related issues would be minor. Basically, an opposing country could hamstring us, and watch us destroy ourselves. When weak and desperate, they could walk in, dirty work having been handled already.
 

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I really hope so, but the more that happens, the less faith I have in leadership...globally, not just here, or Russia.

The model that I saw which really scared me, a single air burst high up over Kansas. The resulting EMP would cause massive disruption, yet the fallout and radiation related issues would be minor. Basically, an opposing country could hamstring us, and watch us destroy ourselves. When weak and desperate, they could walk in, dirty work having been handled already.
Then pay no heed to the 258 page FEMA Response Document I provided and continue to contemplate the far more horrific " What If's " found on the paths of your fears. ✌️
 

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I really hope so, but the more that happens, the less faith I have in leadership...globally, not just here, or Russia.

The model that I saw which really scared me, a single air burst high up over Kansas. The resulting EMP would cause massive disruption, yet the fallout and radiation related issues would be minor. Basically, an opposing country could hamstring us, and watch us destroy ourselves. When weak and desperate, they could walk in, dirty work having been handled already.
After spending some time reviewing that 258 page FEMA Response Document I downloaded from that link I provided, I find it extremely informative.
It's far more detailed than any FEMA "What If" emergency response scenarios.
It's really delves into the technical of every aspect, including radiation level decay times, identifying radiation danger levels based on mushroom cloud appearance to EMP effect distances and I'm only 50 pages into it. Includes many additional links that are topic specific.
 

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After spending some time reviewing that 258 page FEMA Response Document I downloaded from that link I provided, I find it extremely informative.
It's far more detailed than any FEMA "What If" emergency response scenarios.
It's really delves into the technical of every aspect, including radiation level decay times, identifying radiation danger levels based on mushroom cloud appearance to EMP effect distances and I'm only 50 pages into it. Includes many additional links that are topic specific.
The stuff my daughter is majoring in is pretty much up this alley. "Intelligence Analysis" type stuff. I always thought of it as James Bond stuff, but it's really more reading comprehension and translation. There are a lot of field reports on different venues, cities or countries. They determine risks, outcomes and motivations for attacks. Then the counter intelligence types try to figure out how to stop it from happening.
 

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The stuff my daughter is majoring in is pretty much up this alley. "Intelligence Analysis" type stuff. I always thought of it as James Bond stuff, but it's really more reading comprehension and translation. There are a lot of field reports on different venues, cities or countries. They determine risks, outcomes and motivations for attacks. Then the counter intelligence types try to figure out how to stop it from happening.
This is more the type of information that you wish you'd printed out and had accessible in a loose leaf binder in the event of a nuclear event, especially true if it's localized. Don't judge this booklet by it's cover.
 

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Those bastards gave that douche 88 kabillion dollars and started waving those stupid little flags afterwards made my blood pressure about fucking spike.
 
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