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We purchased a white tail high fence hunting property in February this year. I have been working on logo's, any opinions?
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Looks good, also say we are armed, stay the F out unless invited
 

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The ten foot fence implies the keep the fuck out, although out there you are also protected by your neighbors. Every time I have anything done I get a text from someone making sure it is ok. The even let me know when my dumpster was delivered, tight community.
 

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Were are an MLD with conservation option, so our season is Oct 3-Feb 28. It is full weapon and sex the entire season. That way we can cull before the rut.

Nice, you setting the ranch up for hunts? Or is this more of a personal place.
 

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Nice, you setting the ranch up for hunts? Or is this more of a personal place.
We haven't decided yet. Our first year will be mainly improving the genetics. We will cull only 4 1/2 plus inferior bucks and does more by count. I am trying to add some additional AI does with great genetics that will be tagged to prevent shooting. We have some nice 170+ bucks, but won't shoot them yet.
 

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I like the top logo. where is the ranch, have you though about maybe adding some axis or sika deer? maybe some hogs?
 

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I like the top logo. where is the ranch, have you though about maybe adding some axis or sika deer? maybe some hogs?
We would not add hogs or anything that compete with the deer. If we add anything it would be grazers. Axis will eat both grass and browse. We are letting a neighbor run 20 head of cattle half the year to keep the grass down, but might add Oryx or some other grazer. Prices have risen after the freeze, many exotics died in TX.
 

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I like the top logo. where is the ranch, have you though about maybe adding some axis or sika deer? maybe some hogs?

Axis deer i believe are year round in Tx as they are not native. Supposedly good tasting but I haven't had any.... and it's Tx hog are everywhere.
 

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We haven't decided yet. Our first year will be mainly improving the genetics. We will cull only 4 1/2 plus inferior bucks and does more by count. I am trying to add some additional AI does with great genetics that will be tagged to prevent shooting. We have some nice 170+ bucks, but won't shoot them yet.

Awesome, sounds like fun.
 

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Axis deer i believe are year round in Tx as they are not native. Supposedly good tasting but I haven't had any.... and it's Tx hog are everywhere.
Axis taste fantastic, and i believe are year round. my buddies dad went last year brought back some meat for me. i have since ordered some online and it was good as well. TX hog is wide open.
 

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Axis deer i believe are year round in Tx as they are not native. Supposedly good tasting but I haven't had any.... and it's Tx hog are everywhere.
The State does not apply seasons to exotics. You just have to have a license and an endorsement. You can hunt any of them year round. I saw on just one ranch 83 axis froze to death. They are plenty of axis running low fence that have gotten out,
 

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The State does not apply seasons to exotics. You just have to have a license and an endorsement. You can hunt any of them year round. I saw on just one ranch 83 axis froze to death. They are plenty of axis running low fence that have gotten out,

Damn 83 is a fare amount just on 1 ranch, really didn't think about that issue with the storm hit. There are a few down in Hill country too and was surprised to see so many axis.
 

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Doesn't a ranch logo have to be scrawled in a half rotten piece of wood hanging from a log by the front gate? I thought that was a requirement
 

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Where is your ranch at?


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South of Breckenridge, about 7 miles. Makes it nice to have feed store, processor and taxidermy so close.
Doesn't a ranch logo have to be scrawled in a half rotten piece of wood hanging from a log by the front gate? I thought that was a requirement
Definitely runs the gamut, some simple some huge monuments. We are going to use the brand on the gate and logo on koozies and tshirts.
 

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Did you decide on your logo? Have yall taken any monsters of the property since your purchase. I bet there is some amazing wildlife on y’alls property
 

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Private hunting areas are great. Of course you know the 10 foot fence makes any animals taken from the property non-registerable. It is a managed herd so no registered trophies. Also make sure you register your brand, presumably the letter brand at the bottom, with the state. Registering the brand gives some legal rights to it’s use if I remember correctly.
 

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Did you decide on your logo? Have yall taken any monsters of the property since your purchase. I bet there is some amazing wildlife on y’alls property.
Ended up picking the top one . Been a fun year with the property. We only harvested 20 tags, 10 short of our goal. Our plan has changed significantly. We are going to reduce the whitetail population to a family and friend manageable harvest number, probably require 50 tags next season. We are transitioning to a super exotic breeding ranch. We think we will have much reduced liability and much improved long term cash flow. A female Sable sells for about 50k currently and has a higher carrying capacity per acre than cattle. We have stocked with Arabian Oryx and Sable so far, will be adding Kudu as soon as available. Thank God for the tax benefits cause this has been much more expensive than we anticipated.
 

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Ended up picking the top one . Been a fun year with the property. We only harvested 20 tags, 10 short of our goal. Our plan has changed significantly. We are going to reduce the whitetail population to a family and friend manageable harvest number, probably require 50 tags next season. We are transitioning to a super exotic breeding ranch. We think we will have much reduced liability and much improved long term cash flow. A female Sable sells for about 50k currently and has a higher carrying capacity per acre than cattle. We have stocked with Arabian Oryx and Sable so far, will be adding Kudu as soon as available. Thank God for the tax benefits cause this has been much more expensive than we anticipated.
Interesting move, going to exotic’s. That’s the same business model the South African hunting concessions adopted. Plains game hunting interestingly enough, hunting ranches brought back withering game populations.

As to Sable; I didn’t think they would do well in a climate with the temperature range the Breck area. Kudu probably fine, they are found in some of the colder areas of Sub-Saharan Africa.

Are you planning on marketing at the SCI and DSC shows? I’m an exhibitor at both.
 

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Interesting move, going to exotic’s. That’s the same business model the South African hunting concessions adopted. Plains game hunting interestingly enough, hunting ranches brought back withering game populations.

As to Sable; I didn’t think they would do well in a climate with the temperature range the Breck area. Kudu probably fine, they are found in some of the colder areas of Sub-Saharan Africa.

Are you planning on marketing at the SCI and DSC shows? I’m an exhibitor at both.
No plans to hunt any of these animals. We have established a relationship with a company called Wildlife Partners. They purchase your available offspring at a roughly 70% rate of retail. They capture, transport, guarantee and sell for you. You are guaranteed payment even if animal dies during capture. As to the cold, there is always risk but we have installed cold weather structures for each species. The majority of the species lost during the freeze two years ago were from properties without this infrastructure. We won’t market the property unless we decide to sell on our own. If you look up Wildlife Partners on Facebook they have a spring auction coming up and you can see the list of species available, some really cool stuff.
 

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No plans to hunt any of these animals. We have established a relationship with a company called Wildlife Partners. They purchase your available offspring at a roughly 70% rate of retail. They capture, transport, guarantee and sell for you. You are guaranteed payment even if animal dies during capture. As to the cold, there is always risk but we have installed cold weather structures for each species. The majority of the species lost during the freeze two years ago were from properties without this infrastructure. We won’t market the property unless we decide to sell on our own. If you look up Wildlife Partners on Facebook they have a spring auction coming up and you can see the list of species available, some really cool stuff.
This is really interesting. I had no clue this business model existed outside of Texas.

I’ll take a look at Wildlife Partners.

You’re probably smart not dealing with Marketing hunting or having to deal with the hunters themselves.
 

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This is really interesting. I had no clue this business model existed outside of Texas.

I’ll take a look at Wildlife Partners.

You’re probably smart not dealing with Marketing hunting or having to deal with the hunters themselves.
This is Texas
 

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I know there are two separated ranges, but am not aware of subspecies with Sable. I know Roan is a similar antelope species.
Doesn’t really matter, just curious. There’s Common Sable, Roosevelt Sable and a species in Angola that was thought extinct that are showing up again called Giant Angolan Sable. They are freaky huge. I’ll try to find an image.
 

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Found this. The Angolan war and excessive poaching was blamed for their reduced numbers, making people believe they were extinct
 

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This is really interesting. I had no clue this business model existed outside of Texas.

I’ll take a look at Wildlife Partners.

You’re probably smart not dealing with Marketing hunting or having to deal with the hunters themselves.

WTF, Hunters Lives Matter!!!
 

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I know there are two separated ranges, but am not aware of subspecies with Sable. I know Roan is a similar antelope species.
Yea, Roan look like a tan, immature Sable. You might look into those as well, they are considered “Royal Antelopes” and are just as or even more expensive to hunt, in Africa.
 

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WTF, Hunters Lives Matter!!!
Well, I am one. 😂

His business model doesn’t require. Expensive marketing, accommodation, guides, hunting vehicles. Etc. I think it’s really smart.
 

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Not to worry, it's currently a no fly zone...
Hopefully just a no fire zone, currently 45k acres burned south of us in Eastland County. We need some rain! It was on the national news, a police officer died trying to evacuate residents. Lots of posts of cattle being burned alive, horrible.
 

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Yea, Roan look like a tan, immature Sable. You might look into those as well, they are considered “Royal Antelopes” and are just as or even more expensive to hunt, in Africa.
Just going to have Arabian Oryx, Sable and Kudu so far. I did make one mistake, we have 4 Scimitar Oryx. I didn’t know the could cross breed with my Arabians. They have to go, might trade for same Blesbok.
 

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Just going to have Arabian Oryx, Sable and Kudu so far. I did make one mistake, we have 4 Scimitar Oryx. I didn’t know the could cross breed with my Arabians. They have to go, might trade for same Blesbok.
What are they called when they crossbreed?
 

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I don’t recall, I know the Gemsbok Scimitar cross is a Scimbok. I was just warned of the value cost if it happens. I have two Scimitar bulls, so one will get kicked during breeding and he is bigger than my Arabian bulls. I guess Addax will cross also.
 

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This is a pick off our Sable bull, hopefully he will be ready when the girls are. View attachment 1097943
Holy crap! I'm just a simple redneck, deer, elk...coyotes for zeroing in, etc.
I don't know if I'd want to shoot that if I ran across it. Never eaten the meat, and a lot more impressive sight than I'm used to. To me that's like having a safari on your land...very cool!
 

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My wife has a breedable pair of Emu's for sale. Just coming up on 3 weeks old. 45 miles from Havasu, last buyers just backed out. @wash11 If you know anyone that might be interested
 

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I like the logo but the TOR thing could be redone
 
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