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I have acquired over the years a few Motorola cp200 radios. They are all on different frequencies. Does anyone have, or know anyone with correct software that can program these on same frequency.

Thanks in advance.
 

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I have acquired over the years a few Motorola cp200 radios. They are all on different frequencies. Does anyone have, or know anyone with correct software that can program these on same frequency.

Thanks in advance.

From Motorola --- " The Motorola CP200d is available in UHF or VHF with 16 channels, superior audio and long battery life. With up to 4 watts of power (UHF) or 5 watts (VHF), the CP200d provides the coverage needed for great voice communications in many business environments. It's also repeater capable, allowing even greater coverage as your operation expands."

Is he trying to change from VHF to UHF ? otherwise it seems they have more than one channel capability ?? I don't have one, or am I that familiar with them --

Not sure if this helps --- http://manuals.repeater-builder.com..., CP200 Basic Service Manual 6880309N61-B.pdf
 

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From Motorola --- " The Motorola CP200d is available in UHF or VHF with 16 channels, superior audio and long battery life. With up to 4 watts of power (UHF) or 5 watts (VHF), the CP200d provides the coverage needed for great voice communications in many business environments. It's also repeater capable, allowing even greater coverage as your operation expands."

Is he trying to change from VHF to UHF ? otherwise it seems they have more than one channel capability ?? I don't have one, or am I that familiar with them --

Not sure if this helps --- http://manuals.repeater-builder.com/mo-files2/-CP150, 200/CP150, CP200 Basic Service Manual 6880309N61-B.pdf
Just trying to get them all on the same frequency. They do not communicate with each other. Motorola has the only software available to reprogram these to work with each other. You have to buy a subscription with Motorola to do so. Just wondering if anyone has this software or knows someone with it that can do it.
 

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Just trying to get them all on the same frequency. They do not communicate with each other. Motorola has the only software available to reprogram these to work with each other. You have to buy a subscription with Motorola to do so. Just wondering if anyone has this software or knows someone with it that can do it.
I see, I thought the receive / transmit problem might be that some of these radios are Ham Band and communicate via repeaters.
This usually means they receive and transmit on different channels.
I know some are used for non-ham licensed work radios. I thought maybe something in the manual might help, guess not.

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There’s so many factors with Motorola, they could be on a different wave vhf vs uhf and will never talk to each other. Also could be encrypted.
your best bet is to find someone that does public safety communications near you and have them take a look at the radios. Finding someone that knows and understands the system as a side gig will be next to impossible.
where are you located and are you willing to ship them?
 

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Yeah its just not that simple, even if VHF or UHF they could be in a different range as well. Pull the batteries off and that should tell you where they operate at.
 

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There’s so many factors with Motorola, they could be on a different wave vhf vs uhf and will never talk to each other. Also could be encrypted.
your best bet is to find someone that does public safety communications near you and have them take a look at the radios. Finding someone that knows and understands the system as a side gig will be next to impossible.
where are you located and are you willing to ship them?
Yeah its just not that simple, even if VHF or UHF they could be in a different range as well. Pull the batteries off and that should tell you where they operate at.
I’d be happy to ship them. They are just for me and sons around the property having fun.

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They are from work. People forget to turn them back in and these have been collecting dust in our trucks. Thought I could get them working together for me and the kids. If it’s not worth it, it ain’t worth it.
 

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Those radios are programmable to use FRS or MURS. I don't have the ability to program them, but they are in the proper bandwidth and UHF. Perfect radios, maybe you can find a local ham that has the software and programming cable.
 

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Those radios are programmable to use FRS or MURS. I don't have the ability to program them, but they are in the proper bandwidth and UHF. Perfect radios, maybe you can find a local ham that has the software and programming cable.
That what I’m looking for. A guy with programming capabilities and cable. Cable is cheap. Program is pricey for a one time use.
 

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is there a small cover on the sides of the radio that can be removed? that is where the cable connection should be for the programing cable.
 

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Try calling Ham Radio Outlet

Not sure where your located but they might be able to network with one of their guys…
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Google in your area

 

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is there a small cover on the sides of the radio that can be removed? that is where the cable connection should be for the programing cable.
Yes. Also where a headset plugs in.
 

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I had my cp2000d’s programmed at Air Com in Tempe.

I don’t use them often since I don’t usually have a pit guy for coms. Not sure if I’m using the right band for race car stuff.
 

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They are from work. People forget to turn them back in and these have been collecting dust in our trucks. Thought I could get them working together for me and the kids. If it’s not worth it, it ain’t worth it.
As much as I can appreciate your motives for using these, I'm usually no different --- but for your intended purpose, go spend $ 60 on a pair of these, they work great and it's mission accomplished. The other benefit, they're perfectly legal without any license, unlike these 4 Watt Motorola's ---- Not that I've ever let that deter me from tweaking radios into the forbidden areas. 🤣
Problem is, modern radios aren't like my old trusty Sears Roadtalker Sidebands from the 70s and 80s, or my Cobras my buddy and added hundreds of higher and lower channels to. Yes, my buddy got a visit from the Men in Black one afternoon and yes, they confiscated all his stuff and made threats about never doing that shit ever again.

You might get lucky with finding a radio doctor, but I think those have become like unicorns and most any shop will balk due to potential legalities.

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If you have a change of heart on getting them programmed, I might be interested in buying them. Depends on how many batteries and chargers.
 

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As much as I can appreciate your motives for using these, I'm usually no different --- but for your intended purpose, go spend $ 60 on a pair of these, they work great and it's mission accomplished. The other benefit, they're perfectly legal without any license, unlike these 4 Watt Motorola's ---- Not that I've ever let that deter me from tweaking radios into the forbidden areas. 🤣
Problem is, modern radios aren't like my old trusty Sears Roadtalker Sidebands from the 70s and 80s, or my Cobras my buddy and added hundreds of higher and lower channels to. Yes, my buddy got a visit from the Men in Black one afternoon and yes, they confiscated all his stuff and made threats about never doing that shit ever again.

You might get lucky with finding a radio doctor, but I think those have become like unicorns and most any shop will balk due to potential legalities.

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We have a set similar to those. These Motorolas are far more superior radio. We will see what happens.
 

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Call your local motorola dealer, and ask about programming. The local dealer up here was less than enthusiastic, but, you might catch a good guy on a good day. Don't bother buying the software and attempting to do it. Depending on the vintage of the radio, the software works with that vintage of windows pc, as in, an old motorola programming software only works on a windows 98 pc, etc. The dealers keep old pcs, with old operating software to perform these tasks (what they told me). I ended up shipping my similar motorolas to a guy for programming. It was less than $20.00 per radio. On ebay search "motorola program service, or programming cp200. I just did, and several guys came up. They usually don't want your battery or antenna, so shipping was pretty cheap. Worked for me, after waiting on the local guys for two months.
 

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We have a set similar to those. These Motorolas are far more superior radio. We will see what happens.
No argument they are superior in both quality and wattage. The ones we carried long ago in our work trucks worked off of a paid subscription service. Using this service we were licensed to use these radios on specific frequencies. They also worked well because as part of the subscription, they were on a repeater network, but they only worked well within that commercial band network.

Ours, like most company Motorola's were sent packing by the introduction of the Nextel walkie talkie phones which revolutionized that market.

Good luck, hopefully you can find a good radio doctor
 

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Call your local motorola dealer, and ask about programming. The local dealer up here was less than enthusiastic, but, you might catch a good guy on a good day. Don't bother buying the software and attempting to do it. Depending on the vintage of the radio, the software works with that vintage of windows pc, as in, an old motorola programming software only works on a windows 98 pc, etc. The dealers keep old pcs, with old operating software to perform these tasks (what they told me). I ended up shipping my similar motorolas to a guy for programming. It was less than $20.00 per radio. On ebay search "motorola program service, or programming cp200. I just did, and several guys came up. They usually don't want your battery or antenna, so shipping was pretty cheap. Worked for me, after waiting on the local guys for two months.
Sounds like the guy living in the woods of Tennessee I finally found online who performed an amazing repair on my Pioneer Elite AV Receiver after two local shops charged me big bucks and it still was wonky. Good to see there's some of those guys still around.
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No argument they are superior in both quality and wattage. The ones we carried long ago in our work trucks worked off of a paid subscription service. Using this service we were licensed to use these radios on specific frequencies. They also worked well because as part of the subscription, they were on a repeater network, but they only worked well within that commercial band network.

Ours, like most company Motorola's were sent packing by the introduction of the Nextel walkie talkie phones which revolutionized that market.

Good luck, hopefully you can find a good radio doctor

Cell phones definitely hurt the olden days of radios, but you'd be surprised how much radios are still used on the jobsite. When everything switched to digital and the radios went up to 1k a piece and the subscription services went up it slowed down, but talk around is still heavily used on the job.

We use them for crane signaling constantly.
 

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Cell phones definitely hurt the olden days of radios, but you'd be surprised how much radios are still used on the jobsite. When everything switched to digital and the radios went up to 1k a piece and the subscription services went up it slowed down, but talk around is still heavily used on the job.

We use them for crane signaling constantly.
So radio to radio mostly, do they still offer commercial 2-way repeater networks ?
 

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So radio to radio mostly, do they still offer commercial 2-way repeater networks ?

Yes, everything has switched to digital vs analog, but radios are everywhere.
 

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Call your local motorola dealer, and ask about programming. The local dealer up here was less than enthusiastic, but, you might catch a good guy on a good day. Don't bother buying the software and attempting to do it. Depending on the vintage of the radio, the software works with that vintage of windows pc, as in, an old motorola programming software only works on a windows 98 pc, etc. The dealers keep old pcs, with old operating software to perform these tasks (what they told me). I ended up shipping my similar motorolas to a guy for programming. It was less than $20.00 per radio. On ebay search "motorola program service, or programming cp200. I just did, and several guys came up. They usually don't want your battery or antenna, so shipping was pretty cheap. Worked for me, after waiting on the local guys for two months.
Thanks man appreciate the input. I think I have a line on the fix. RDP is awesome once again. 💪🏻
 

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Cell phones definitely hurt the olden days of radios, but you'd be surprised how much radios are still used on the jobsite. When everything switched to digital and the radios went up to 1k a piece and the subscription services went up it slowed down, but talk around is still heavily used on the job.

We use them for crane signaling constantly.
We use them every single day all day long. But they are sub-rented from vendors. I’d hate to ask a vendor to do this though and they wonder where I got them 🤣 wink wink.
 
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