Question for the roofers

[Kachina26]

Is this standard practice?

 

[monkeyswrench]

Sometimes, like all your cuts and remnants from the job that are large pieces. You keep them on the deck to use as needed for odds. Clean up means bomb everything. I was a cheap bastard, and decent with geometric reasoning...there wasn't a lot of leftovers.

 

[rmarion]

Track jobs;
off load, save for reuse. Normally four different tile colors max through out.

Video, must be TRACK piece worker.... yes, boss, 25 sq. were installed?

Good tile loader ... 25 extra pc max.

Hip cut waste. used in Valleys. vice-versa.

answer to your question..

No, not normal.

also, nowadays... most Roofing contractors are responsible for construction debris cleanup. Leave debris on roof, very accessible. Forklift with trash bin collects debris.

Back in the 70's... track work, tile debris picked up by debris contractors after roof tiles completed. Damaged broken tiles thrown EVERYWHERE.


Single family reroofs, maintain cleanliness.... debris removal carefully.

Only thing homeowners notice, HOW CLEAN premises are left daily and during construction.

 

[Backlash]

My Grandfather is rolling over in his grave!

Back in the day, he made us crawl down from the roof if we dropped a nail. He considered it wasteful and you just didn't waste his money. Ever. We learned at a young age not to drop any nails.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Tile installer in Havasu didn't think they should leave anything..... They were a sub...they had taken it all to "their yard". Oh hell fucking no.... I got back what I could from the GC..

The distribution firm I work for also has a roofing division (a very big one). I know some customers who would go ape shit seeing tiles tossed off a roof, if they weren't scrap/waste/cuts...

 

[BHC Vic]

My Grandfather is rolling over in his grave!

Back in the day, he made us crawl down from the roof if we dropped a nail. He considered it wasteful and you just didn't waste his money. Ever. We learned at a young age not to drop any nails.

I’ve seen Steve sharpe the owner of sharpe interiors lay guys off on the spot for too many dropped screws on the floor. He will also ask weird questions like how many sheets fit on a drywall cart or how many screws an 8’ sheet of drywall takes. Answer wrong and you’re going home.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Tile installer in Havasu didn't think they should leave anything..... They were a sub...they had taken it all to "their yard". Oh hell fucking no.... I got back what I could from the GC..

The distribution firm I work for also has a roofing division (a very big one). I know some customers who would go ape shit seeing tiles tossed off a roof, if they weren't scrap/waste/cuts...

On new builds I'd ask the GC how many they'd want me to leave...usually customs with odd mixes or blends. They'd stay on site until GC was done. Usually a painter or other sub would pop a few, I'd always offer to do a check and replace any damaged ones before owners moved in. Keeping some there kept me from hauling tiles back to the site. If they wanted a short stack of leftovers, I'd surely leave them. Those tiles cost money. If I charged for them, they were paid for.

My old place had a small "boneyard" of tiles, but they were mostly old, out of production pieces. I'd find some here and there, but it helped immensely when doing additions or repairs on 30s and 40s homes...especially those in "historical" areas. Those were fun, copper or lead flashings, fabricating vent stacks to match existing stuff. It was more "elegant" than the normal day to day crap.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

On new builds I'd ask the GC how many they'd want me to leave...usually customs with odd mixes or blends. They'd stay on site until GC was done. Usually a painter or other sub would pop a few, I'd always offer to do a check and replace any damaged ones before owners moved in. Keeping some there kept me from hauling tiles back to the site. If they wanted a short stack of leftovers, I'd surely leave them. Those tiles cost money. If I charged for them, they were paid for.

My old place had a small "boneyard" of tiles, but they were mostly old, out of production pieces. I'd find some here and there, but it helped immensely when doing additions or repairs on 30s and 40s homes...especially those in "historical" areas. Those were fun, copper or lead flashings, fabricating vent stacks to match existing stuff. It was more "elegant" than the normal day to day crap.

We paid for all materials..When they were complete with the job there were around 60 left. Those disappeared. I got 6 back. I understand where you are coming from, my deal was a bit different. I wanted what I paid for, and ordered extra to keep for repairs later. The installer wanted/stole them for their bone yard. I'll never use him again over it.

 

[aka619er]

I was pissed off by my roofer. He had me pay the local roofing supply place for our tile. It saved me money so I didnt mind. I was out of town the week our roof was tiled. Came back and roof was done and site was clean. Looked around and not 1 left over tile. He was doing another home and I met him at the site. Exact tile I used. I asked him why I had no left over tiles. He asked how many I wanted and I said the left overs. He told me none were left but he would bring me 50 ridge and 50 flat. I said ok disgruntled. Waiting he had to do a repair and broke numerous. After fixed they were different tiles.

 

[monkeyswrench]

We paid for all materials..When they were complete with the job there were around 60 left. Those disappeared. I got 6 back. I understand where you are coming from, my deal was a bit different. I wanted what I paid for, and ordered extra to keep for repairs later. The installer wanted/stole them for their bone yard. I'll never use him again over it.

As a whole, roofers aren't the brightest. If you ordered materials, the dumbass should have realized you knew the measurements and such. Either they screwed up a massive amount, or they stole...either looks pretty bad I think.

 

[Orange Juice]

Looks like 10-20% “extra material” they want the customer to absorb during a project.

 

[Bajap1]

My Grandfather is rolling over in his grave!

Back in the day, he made us crawl down from the roof if we dropped a nail. He considered it wasteful and you just didn't waste his money. Ever. We learned at a young age not to drop any nails.

You don't walk into a bank and see penny's on the ground, thats what my guys are told

 

[rmarion]

As a whole, roofers aren't the brightest. If you ordered materials, the dumbass should have realized you knew the measurements and such. Either they screwed up a massive amount, or they stole...either looks pretty bad I think.

MW

I'm now on the supplier side of the business. It truly amazes me what the majority (not all..LOL) of these contractors conduct business operations.

Happy New Year...

 

[rmarion]

FYI

some costs.

standard concrete roof tiles based on 30 sq.

Field Tiles - $1.30 pc
Trim - $3.60 pc

as some have mentioned in their experience.

Request extra Roof tiles - minimum
25 pc- Field
10 pc - Hip/Ridge
10 pc - Rake


Happy New Year

 

[Ace in the Hole]

As a whole, roofers aren't the brightest. If you ordered materials, the dumbass should have realized you knew the measurements and such. Either they screwed up a massive amount, or they stole...either looks pretty bad I think.

Lot of truth in that statement... I strictly stay in the solar side of the company I work for. I pawn the roof guys off on those reps...I don't want anything to do with it lol

 

[monkeyswrench]

Lot of truth in that statement... I strictly stay in the solar side of the company I work for. I pawn the roof guys off on those reps...I don't want anything to do with it lol

Word of mouth is golden...no reason ever to screw over a customer willing to cut a check for 50k for 100$ in freebies.

It was hard to find decent guys 15 years ago. I can't imagine in the current world. It's definitely not a job for the weak or entitled soy boys of today.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Roofing next month with tiles. I hope that the roofers leave a few extra in tract for me to hold onto.

 

[BoatCop]

When I did my addition, I purposefully bought several extra packs of roofing (asphalt shingles), extra boxes of tile, backsplash, extra flooring, etc. The way that manufacturers are retiring colors, designs, textures, etc. (Especially from the Big Box stores) it always pays to have enough of the original stuff to blend in for repairs. A few years ago, a microburst tore a bunch of shingles off. Of course, the same shingles weren't available, anymore. If I hadn't kept the extra, the roof would look patched, instead of a smooth blend-in.

When I sell, the next owner is really going to thank me.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Roofing next month with tiles. I hope that the roofers leave a few extra in tract for me to hold onto.

You know I work for one of the largest distributors of roofing and solar in the US..with a branch not 10 min from you..if you are supplying/paying materials you should call me.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Word of mouth is golden...no reason ever to screw over a customer willing to cut a check for 50k for 100$ in freebies.

It was hard to find decent guys 15 years ago. I can't imagine in the current world. It's definitely not a job for the weak or entitled soy boys of today.

Until 6 months ago I never dealt with roofers..I loosely do now bc of affiliation but it’s not my core focus…it’s a different breed and I want nothing to do with it lol

 

[HNL2LHC]

You know I work for one of the largest distributors of roofing and solar in the US..with a branch not 10 min from you..if you are supplying/paying materials you should call me.

I should have done that but there is a friend in town that was able to help a bit. I will certainly reach out with the building coming up.