Prescott Bear Attack, One Dead

[fat rat]

Unreal!

Man killed by bear near Prescott in 'vicious' and 'unprovoked' attack

A bear mauled and killed an Arizona man Friday near Prescott in an attack officials say was vicious and unprovoked.

ktar.com

 

[poncho]

I watched a documentary about survivors of bear attacks.
One guy said he curled in the fetal position and listened to the sound of the bears teeth scraping on his skull, horrified me.

 

[Ziggy]

Bears, Gators, Piranha, Quagga, Aliens and Government....UGH!!

 

[Cdog]

Damn! I always roll with my G20 bear loads. I know the area well. Lots of people usually around.

 

[MR HARLEY]

Dam!!!! Needs moar Glock 40 MOS .

 

[2Driver]

They‘re probably just tired of the Overlander bullshit.

 

[pkrrvr619]

I watched a documentary about survivors of bear attacks.
One guy said he curled in the fetal position and listened to the sound of the bears teeth scraping on his skull, horrified me.

What did this documentary say was the best practice in a bear attack scenario?

 

[jetboatperformance]

Was it a Cocaine Bear ??

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

What did this documentary say was the best practice in a bear attack scenario?

If you have a gun that will only piss off the bear more, use the gun to shoot yourself.

 

[Havaduner]

Do we need a welfare check on Monkeyswrench?

 

[Angler]

Bears, Gators, Piranha, Quagga, Aliens and Government....UGH!!

All bad parts of the Bible....

 

[Mr. C]

Bears, Gators, Piranha, Quagga, Aliens and Government....UGH!!

Almost making California sound better.
I kid I kid.

 

[PlanB]

Damn! I always roll with my G20 bear loads. I know the area well. Lots of people usually around.

G20 is definitely a good choice. .500 AE is even better but not as practical to carry.

 

[wallnutz]

Was it a Cocaine Bear ??

It's Prescott, it was a tweaker bear.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Bears, Gators, Piranha, Quagga, Aliens and Government.....oh my!!

Fixed it for you.

 

[poncho]

What did this documentary say was the best practice in a bear attack scenario?

What the guy did, curled in a ball exposing the least amount.

 

[jetboatperformance]

Crunchy on the outside .....

 

[BabyRay]

My father-in-law worked on the Alaska pipeline when it was being built. He had some kind of minor injury, so he went to the clinic to get fixed up. While he was waiting his turn, a guy was brought in who had been attacked by a bear, and had killed it with his knife. He said the guy was pretty badly injured, but he survived.

 

[Taboma]

Back in the late 60's a worked as an apprentice sparky with a Foreman who'd been mauled by a huge grizzly in Alaska.
Bill was one of the largest men I'd even met, I'm talking a "Hoss" Dan Blocker look-a-like.

Bill and his buddy had been hunting up in the remote area and were walking along a river heading back to their camp early evening.
They encountered this huge grizzly as they came around a rock outcropping.
Bear grabbed Bill's partner, tossing him like a rag doll and killing him.
Bear then grabs Bill by the head, lifting him off the ground by his head and trashing him about like he was a stuffed animal.
Due to Bill's extremely large head, the Bear didn't crush his skull, and eventually ended up losing his grip when Bill's scalped peeled off. Bear then proceeds to pin him on his back, laid on his chest and proceeds to start chewing on his shoulder and chest.

Bill somehow managed to get his 44 Mag revolver unholstered, presses it to the bears stomach and fires several rounds, causing the bear to stand straight up and Bill shoots him again.
The bear then turned and walked away, leaving Bill on the ground and in horrific condition.

By now it's getting dark, Bill is in shock but manages somehow to get back to his campsite, and use his truck to get to the nearby ranger station. He really wasn't completely aware of his condition, but knew he'd been scalped and was bleeding. Ranger had him transported out by helo.
By some miracle Bill had survived after a lengthy hospitalization. The ranger found his deceased partners body and that of the dead bear not far away.

Ranger told Bill he was damned lucky that he'd wounded the bear sufficiently to enable him to get up and move away, that if the bear had been unable to stand and walk away, he'd have continued to lay on him and eat him.

Bill removed his hat revealing his mangled scalp and proceeded to show me the scars on his shoulder, back and chest. How he was able to reach help and survive those wounds is certainly a miracle and had he not been a "Hoss" look alike, surely ripped to shreds.

 

[Luvnlife]

I read a book on grizzly bear attacks, shit would give you nitemares. Some stories were told by survivors and some told by people doing the investigation and the aftermath.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

There is a young Grizzly that has been tormenting the city will live in, it has been caught on multiple cameras inside the city and seen in the morning hours on regular occasions. It is mostly a nuisance to people we talk to, however, the mountain lion that has been seen also in town by multiple sources does not get the same passing comments.

I'm not on top of the food chain where we live and plan accordingly. I think a dog is in my future.

I tell myself that a bear eating me is a memorable way to die. Angie assures me she will have the bear tracked, shot, and displayed so that generations after me can tell the story of my honorable death.

The bears here can be huge. There is a picture from Montana FWP making rounds right now from Whitefish where the bear is as big as a tuff shed.

I don't like bears.

 

[Badchoices03]

My cousin runs a gold claim in Alaska, every summer he comes back with a crazy bear story

 

[2Driver]

I read a book on grizzly bear attacks, shit would give you nitemares. Some stories were told by survivors and some told by people doing the investigation and the aftermath.

My brother did his master thesis on Grizz at university of Montana. He spent a lot of time in the back country with the craighead family. He has a very technical book out on the species.

To sum it up I aint camping in anything other than a hard side camper and a minimum of 40 cal. lol

 

[monkeyswrench]

No need to send the search party, me and my boys are fine

I usually carry a .40 with me in the hills. Not so much worried about bears, as mountain lions. The bears out this direction are fairly scarce, and not anywhere near grizzly size. Seems to be the bigger ones are maybe 200-250lbs. Sure, can probably still hurt you pretty bad, but usually tend to be skittish, and want nothing to do with humans.

A few of us were talking about it this morning. I wondered what attracted the bear to this poor man. A friend suggested it could have possibly been rabid. They'll probably have the bear tested.

 

[Outdrive1]

Crazy story for Arizona.

 

[arch stanton]

i have had an idea on how to help prevent a bear attack some kind of inflatable device that comes out of your back pac and makes you look way bigger than you are powered by a co2 cartridge like is used in life boats
shoots out the top and sides like a peacock

and i always wondered if shooting a bear with #6 or #4 bird shot in the face to blind them would make escape easier since killing them is so difficult
the scenario i’m thing is bear is charging you have time to put a round or 3 in into its face and you dodge to the side and he can’t find you as you run away

now with both those ideas i’m not willing to be the guinea pig just spit balling hear
i think i going to refresh my whisky

 

[Outdrive1]

I’ve bear hunted with horses and dogs, some of my best memories with my dad. I have a Superblackhawk 44mag my dad bought me 30 plus years ago for bear hunting. I always figured/hoped that would stop a bear.

 

[4Waters]

Black bear in Agoura Hills around 2003

 

[stephenkatsea]

Grizz in AZ. Tombstone at its busiest was prior to any refrigeration. Along with numerous miners etc there also were professional hunters Fresh meat was brought to town by these hired hunters. One of those hunters was killed by a Grizzly somewhere outside of Tombstone. At least that’s what a Tombstone Park Ranger told us. Very possible. At one time they ranged into northern Mexico.

 

[stevesdcb]

Was working downtown Prescott main courthouse today. Some old geezer comes in this afternoon, starts telling me about a bear that his buddy just shot, & shows me pics of the bear seconds before it’s shot. One of the pics is of the bear standing next to a dumpster, bear appeared to be fully mature & good size. Crazy.

 

[4Waters]

There is a young Grizzly that has been tormenting the city will live in, it has been caught on multiple cameras inside the city and seen in the morning hours on regular occasions. It is mostly a nuisance to people we talk to, however, the mountain lion that has been seen also in town by multiple sources does not get the same passing comments.

I'm not on top of the food chain where we live and plan accordingly. I think a dog is in my future.

I tell myself that a bear eating me is a memorable way to die. Angie assures me she will have the bear tracked, shot, and displayed so that generations after me can tell the story of my honorable death.

The bears here can be huge. There is a picture from Montana FWP making rounds right now from Whitefish where the bear is as big as a tuff shed.

I don't like bears.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

My brother did his master thesis on Grizz at university of Montana. He spent a lot of time in the back country with the craighead family. He has a very technical book out on the species.

To sum it up I aint camping in anything other than a hard side camper and a minimum of 40 cal. lol

Is the book in print? I would love to read it.

 

[stephenkatsea]

Brown bear in Agoura Hills around 2003 View attachment 1242925

I believe ‘Brown Bear’ is typically/biologically a reference to Grizzly and Kodiak bears. But, all bears in the US are colored brown. Our local bears are called black bears. But, they usually look brown to me.

Growing up in CA and spending a bunch of time in the eastern Sierras, it seemed there were no bears on that side of the mountain range. Later, it was the ‘garbage’ bears of the western slope (Yosemite etc) which made their way over the top and into the eastern range. The eastern Sierras are now full of bears.

One of our daughters lives in Spring Creek NV, at the base of the Ruby Mountain Range. There are zero bears in those mountains. Too much desert space separates them from the other bear populations.

 

[4Waters]

I believe ‘Brown Bear’ is typically/biologically a reference to Grizzly and Kodiak bears. But, all bears in the US are colored brown. Our local bears are called black bears. But, they usually look brown to me.

Growing up in CA and spending a bunch of time in the eastern Sierras, there were no bears on that side of the mountain range. Later, it was the ‘garbage’ bears of the western slope (Yosemite etc) which made their way over the top and into the eastern range.

One of our daughters lives in Spring Creek NV, at the base of the Ruby Mountain Range. There are zero bears in those mountains. Too much desert space separates them from the other bear populations.

Maybe you're right that it's considered a black bear IDK but they estimated that bear to be 250lbs, small but I was shocked by the size of the paws

 

[2Driver]

Is the book in print? I would love to read it.

I have a copy. It’s like 400 pages of super technical data. He did it with the Craighead family who were the epicenter of Grizzly study at the time at U of M. Nat Geo followed them around and did a piece on some of it decades ago. I tried to read it and it was over my head.

 

[was thatguy]

What did this documentary say was the best practice in a bear attack scenario?

All bears are different.
Black bears climb trees very good. They are really just a nuisance to most Alaskans.

Brown bears are a subspecies of grizzly bears. The difference being Browns are typically coastal and have a fish diet in part, whereas Grizzlies are primarily interior predators.
There is absolutely nothing similar in any behavioral nuances between “brown” bears and black bears.
When a black bear attacks it’s almost always driven by illness, starvation, etc.
we’d just throw rocks at black bears to get them out of our campgrounds.
A brown bear is not to be trifled with or ever treated like a black bear. The reason they say don’t run is because, to a brown bear, only one thing runs away and that’s prey.
You change from a curiosity, or possible threat, to food when you run.
Or the bear might just ignore you.
It’s really up to the bear what he does.
During the winter, Brown bears are known to come out of their dens and dig out hibernating black bears and eat them and their cubs.
I’ll tell the stories one day of the shit I’ve seen in interior Alaska involving brown bears. Mother fucking unbelievable feats of strength and killing.

 

[Outdrive1]

I’ve been to Alaska once, and while I have zero experience with Polar bears, they are supposedly super predators. They will eat you. They may look cute and cuddly, but they will track you, hunt you and eat you.

 

[HNL2LHC]

There is a young Grizzly that has been tormenting the city will live in, it has been caught on multiple cameras inside the city and seen in the morning hours on regular occasions. It is mostly a nuisance to people we talk to, however, the mountain lion that has been seen also in town by multiple sources does not get the same passing comments.

I'm not on top of the food chain where we live and plan accordingly. I think a dog is in my future.

I tell myself that a bear eating me is a memorable way to die. Angie assures me she will have the bear tracked, shot, and displayed so that generations after me can tell the story of my honorable death.

The bears here can be huge. There is a picture from Montana FWP making rounds right now from Whitefish where the bear is as big as a tuff shed.

I don't like bears.

Don’t fret Jeff. with all the weight that you have lost you are not much of a meal these days. Just be sure to hike with a fat old guy like me and you will be golden and living for years to come. I on The other hand will have a big statue of Me and the bear for generations of my family to enjoy.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

I have a copy. It’s like 400 pages of super technical data. He did it with the Craighead family who were the epicenter of Grizzly study at the time at U of M. Nat Geo followed them around and did a piece on some of it decades ago. I tried to read it and it was over my head.

So with all that studying, book writing and a complete Master's Thesis, was he able to answer the timeless question?




Does a bear shit in the woods?

 

[wzuber]

Bears, Gators, Piranha, Quagga, Aliens and Government....UGH!!

don't forget the great white shark attacks too.........
with all that horrible chit going on how do we dare risk going outside? you all should just stay inside and drink n phuk all day.

 

[rmarion]

So with all that studying, book writing and a complete Master's Thesis, was he able to answer the timeless question?




Does a bear shit in the woods?

 

[Chili Palmer]

I worked with a guy who was out with his buddy elk hunting in Wyoming - a bear came up behind and grabbed him and had him in a bear hug. As soon as the bear grabbed him his buddy took off running for his life leaving this guy with the bear. As the bear grabbed him he dropped his rifle and had his arms pinned by his sides. He thought he was dead right there, just waiting for the bear to rip his head off. He happened to look down and saw the bear’s genitals by his right hand. He figured he was going to die anyway, why the hell not? He grabbed the bears wang and started stroking it. He could feel it getting erect, so kept stroking it. As he was stroking it he could feel the bear starting to loosen his grip, so he kept going. Finally the bear loosened his grip enough that he could break free, when he did he just kept running for his life knowing that the bear could surely out run him and catch him. He ran until he had no strength left and just collapsed and fell to the ground. As he laid on the ground he kept waiting for the bear to attack him. After laying still for what seemed to be an eternity he lifted his head and didn’t see the bear anywhere. He got up very slowly and looked back about a quarter mile down the trail and he sees the bear just standing there waving his big ass bear arm and paw almost saying “come on back, come on back”.




That’s total bullshit, it’s an old joke - but it sucked you in though.

 

[was thatguy]

I’ve been to Alaska once, and while I have zero experience with Polar bears, they are supposedly super predators. They will eat you. They may look cute and cuddly, but they will track you, hunt you and eat you.

I’ve seen one polar bear in the wild.
Prudhoe bay near Peak Camp.
This bear was enormous.
It was impossible to even relate to it as a normal bear of any kind.
30 years in Alaska I’ve seen countless bears. Mostly black bears but on occasion the stunningly large and majestic brown.
at Brooks lake and river in south central with the bears grabbing fish out of the water less than 20’ from us.
In Takotna I saw a cabin with a solid wood door that must have weighed 200 pounds. The door was about 20’ from the cabin, tore completely off its bindings. The wood stove was laying by the door where the bear had torn it from the floor and launched it out of the front window. This is a solid cast iron wood stove, not some yuppie repop.
The bear smelled food but couldn’t find anything so he got mad.
I saw a connex that presumably the same bear had literally torn the side open.
NONE of that compared to that polar bear.
The native guy in the next truck was from Barrow. He estimated that bear to be over 2400 pounds. And I didn’t doubt it.
When he sauntered by a parked pick up truck his head was above the cab roof. I could go on for days trying to describe the sheer size of this thing, but words just won’t do it Justice.
It was silent, seemingly moved in slow motion, and had absolutely zero concern for any human activity around it.
It’s hard to imagine any superior predator compared to that giant.
A person would literally be like a small mouse to a large cat with that thing.
I had seen binky the polar bear at the Alaska zoo plenty of times. Binky was one of the largest polar bears in captivity.
He was dwarfed by this thing.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I’ve seen one polar bear in the wild.
Prudhoe bay near Peak Camp.
This bear was enormous.
It was impossible to even relate to it as a normal bear of any kind.
30 years in Alaska I’ve seen countless bears. Mostly black bears but on occasion the stunningly large and majestic brown.
at Brooks lake and river in south central with the bears grabbing fish out of the water less than 20’ from us.
In Takotna I saw a cabin with a solid wood door that must have weighed 200 pounds. The door was about 20’ from the cabin, tore completely off its bindings. The wood stove was laying by the door where the bear had torn it from the floor and launched it out of the front window. This is a solid cast iron wood stove, not some yuppie repop.
The bear smelled food but couldn’t find anything so he got mad.
I saw a connex that presumably the same bear had literally torn the side open.
NONE of that compared to that polar bear.
The native guy in the next truck was from Barrow. He estimated that bear to be over 2400 pounds. And I didn’t doubt it.
When he sauntered by a parked pick up truck his head was above the cab roof. I could go on for days trying to describe the sheer size of this thing, but words just won’t do it Justice.
It was silent, seemingly moved in slow motion, and had absolutely zero concern for any human activity around it.
It’s hard to imagine any superior predator compared to that giant.
A person would literally be like a small mouse to a large cat with that thing.
I had seen binky the polar bear at the Alaska zoo plenty of times. Binky was one of the largest polar bears in captivity.
He was dwarfed by this thing.

2400lbs...closest animal I can relate to would be a brahma bull. The rodeo beasts are "only" about 2k. Horns and hooves...dangerous as hell, can toss a human like a stuffed animal. A polar bear has claws and articulate paws, some big teeth...and probably as much or more strength.

Nope

 

[NicPaus]

My father-in-law worked on the Alaska pipeline when it was being built. He had some kind of minor injury, so he went to the clinic to get fixed up. While he was waiting his turn, a guy was brought in who had been attacked by a bear, and had killed it with his knife. He said the guy was pretty badly injured, but he survived.

My Dad's buddy Wild Bill was a chiropractor working out of a semi when the pipeline was being built. He has some crazy bear stories. He took Me and my brother bear hunting in Alaska. He lives in Soldotna. One story I will never forget was his buddy he was hunting with getting eaten by a 2 young bears. Another was his cabin neighbors wife getting eaten. He had been attacked by a grizzly not far from a cabin we spent the night in on lake Tustamena. He laughed when I wanted to bring my handgun in case I was ambushed by a bear.

 

[76sanger]

I don't get it, if you spend time in the woods or trails bring a damn handgun. Especially for black bear, cougar and "wolves" in my area now. Grizzly territory it's a whole different circumstance.
I guess YOGI found himself a buffet.

 

[MPHSystems]

My brother did his master thesis on Grizz at university of Montana. He spent a lot of time in the back country with the craighead family. He has a very technical book out on the species.

To sum it up I aint camping in anything other than a hard side camper and a minimum of 40 cal. lol

I don’t think .40 gets it done. 10MM, 44mag or at the very least, .357mag.

 

[boatpi]

What that article did not state was that the bear was eating that camper when shot.

 

[Wedgy]

Last trip up 395, we were having lunch at the Diner up in Whitney Portal. Ranger in there was pissed He'd had to shot a Bear that was ripping into a camp trailer, as the owner had failed to adhere to using the Bear box to store their food.
Message...

 

[SassyRN]

They say it was a black bear and the guy was just sitting in his chair at his camp drinking coffee. The bear drug him off so the neighbors had a hard time getting a clear shot. I was working at the hospital and heard this from EMS.