POWERTANK

[wUTwZAT]

I am thinking of doing some more off roading in the near future and was considering my options for airing down and airing back up. I was orig considering to install an onboard viaair air compressor and a tank where my spare tire used to be. Possiblely plumbing in a quick release at the front and rear of the truck to plug tools/air chucks into.

I've also seen these ultra cool Powertanks and the accesories they offer. I know which ever system I choose I can still use there other toys.

I am not sure of the benefits or draw backs between CO2, Nitrogen and compressed air, in filling up tires and using air tools.

What systems do you use and any draw backs to them, or is there something you would have done differently.

I am concerned with using a compressor out in the middle of no where and draining a battery or having the compressor fail and being stuck. I know these other systems carry more than enough punch to get you through a weekend. Also, concerned about refilling the tanks, I am next to a praxair, but they were talking down on having an aluminum tank, such as the Powertank config. These seem to hold CO2.

Jason

 

[Deleted Account]

I have the Kilby Airboss setup on my JK. It's a motor mount compressor, a 2.5 gal tank, and two air chuck front and rear. It runs at 130 psi and you can run air tools with this setup. I was seriously thinking about a tank but decided on this instead...

But if the motor won't run, it won't work... But that is the least of my problems at that point.

 

[Troy McClure]

I don't have one, but I will be getting a Powertank. The portability of the unit is what I'm interested in, plus the quick fill ups compared to the compressors. If you're looking to save some cash, Gen Right has a generic version of the Powertank for a substantial savings.

As far as Nitrogen goes, don't bother, its all marketing, especially if you are going to air down/up, no reason for it. As for co2 or compressed air, I don't think there is much difference.

 

[wUTwZAT]

Nice looking system RiverKid... I don't think that is for me though, I want the portable tank and if the motors not running...

Thanks Troy, I was reading on an offroad forum too that the Co2 is the way to go. I really like the powertank system and all the extra goodies they are offering, it has a bag and a handle, plus the monster valves to speed up the filling and air down times. It doesn't sound like very long until your bent over in the extreme heat or cold trying to get your pressures right.

I wonder WWJY (What Would Jeff Do) Sportin Wood? He probably has stock in the Powertank folks and ViaAir.

I gotta tear the inside of my truck down and figure out a good configuration for everything and make sure everything is secure, last thing I need is a 50lbs jack or airbottle to come flying at me. :skull

 

[Deleted Account]

Get the Staun deflators. They come preset at 18 psi. If you want lower, just adjust the valve as you see fit. You start with one tire, walk all the way around and by the time you've hit the last tire you're about ready to pull the Staun deflator off the first tire...

Super easy. I can air up each of my 35's from 15 to 32 psi in about 75 seconds. It is real quick.

 

[wUTwZAT]

Get the Staun deflators. They come preset at 18 psi. If you want lower, just adjust the valve as you see fit. You start with one tire, walk all the way around and by the time you've hit the last tire you're about ready to pull the Staun deflator off the first tire...

Super easy. I can air up each of my 35's from 15 to 32 psi in about 75 seconds. It is real quick.

Definately, I remeber trying to get through areas without airing down because it was such a pain in the ass bringing them down and then back up. I guess you just gotta look at it like when your on the trail and you'd give anything to make it easier.... Gonna buy the big tank with the good valve, the deflaters. Bite the bullet once and enjoy.

I am going to try and find out if the company Troy mentioned can save me a bit on the tank, as long as the other parts will all match up to it, shouldn't be any issues.

 

[OCMerrill]

I run a Quick Air II and a tank but Kilby makes nice stuff. Powertanks are a great way to go as well.

I guess no matter which way you go having Air is the main point.

I have my Air connections inside though. Riverkid has a nice setup.

 

[Deleted Account]

You can screw the deflators on once you hit the dirt. By the time the trail starts, you just unscrew them so the rocks don't get the deflator valves... Too easy.

I'm always in a hurry, and I had a DC compressor, but it took like 5-8 minutes per tire. Get a bigger storage tank if you can, and the right % rated compressor. This thing books!

I air up everybody at the end. Have a 20' hose with the Powertank filler/gage/valve. It works great. Plus those getting air fork over beers. I know. I'm like that.:beer

 

[OCMerrill]

Get the Staun deflators. They come preset at 18 psi. If you want lower, just adjust the valve as you see fit. You start with one tire, walk all the way around and by the time you've hit the last tire you're about ready to pull the Staun deflator off the first tire...

Super easy. I can air up each of my 35's from 15 to 32 psi in about 75 seconds. It is real quick.

They need to be kept clean. A little prolong squirt every now and then keeps the consistency at level one. I even have a set for the motorhome. Nothing beats driving down pismo while everything is airing down...automatically.

 

[Deleted Account]

They need to be kept clean. A little prolong squirt every now and then keeps the consistency at level one. I even have a set for the motorhome. Nothing beats driving down pismo while everything is airing down...automatically.

You are such the pimp!

Lol. It does get easier when you get older.

 

[OCMerrill]

You are such the pimp!

Lol. It does get easier when you get older.

If we only knew this 20 years ago. I could wake up in the morning and walk right into the shower instead of talking myself into it as I hit the snooze over and over.

I might be able to venture out soon as my $$ situation is improving. Amazing what a few liens I would never bother to prefect stirs the check signing hand.

I have been to three courts this past week. What a waste I have to take shit this far.

 

[Deleted Account]

Light at the end of the tunnel...:thumbsup Nice work.:beer

We have been very fortunate so far in our industry. I sure hope that holds.

We should at least get up to Big Bear and play in the snow later. We've got a great spot to warm up in!:thumbsup

 

[OCMerrill]

Light at the end of the tunnel...:thumbsup Nice work.:beer

We have been very fortunate so far in our industry. I sure hope that holds.

We should at least get up to Big Bear and play in the snow later. We've got a great spot to warm up in!:thumbsup

You call it and I'll haul it.

 

[Deleted Account]

Dump runs too? :beer

 

[Deleted Account]

Nice looking system RiverKid... I don't think that is for me though, I want the portable tank and if the motors not running...

Thanks Troy, I was reading on an offroad forum too that the Co2 is the way to go. I really like the powertank system and all the extra goodies they are offering, it has a bag and a handle, plus the monster valves to speed up the filling and air down times. It doesn't sound like very long until your bent over in the extreme heat or cold trying to get your pressures right.

I wonder WWJY (What Would Jeff Do) Sportin Wood? He probably has stock in the Powertank folks and ViaAir.

I gotta tear the inside of my truck down and figure out a good configuration for everything and make sure everything is secure, last thing I need is a 50lbs jack or airbottle to come flying at me. :skull

Some used deals on the Jeep forums FYI:

10lb Used powertank - JkOwners.com - The Community for Jeep JK 4x4 Owners

 

[wUTwZAT]

Some used deals on the Jeep forums FYI:

http://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3519

Nice! I was thinking of going larger but for the price I'd be stupid to pass this up, maybe I'll become a member when I get home and work out a deal with this guy. Think they'll know I don't have Jeep?

 

[essexjet]

I bought the regulator kit for $279 (the one that accepts nitrogen) and bought a 20lbs co2 at airgas for $144

Took it to glamis and aired up my 35" BFG 30psi in 45 seconds each.

 

[wUTwZAT]

I went into Praxair since they are next door to my shop, he offered me a regulator that went to 500psi for $248 and the 20lbs bottle I believe was for either $148 or $188, either way it was a lifetime bottle, just bring it in and exchange it for another filled bottle. So if you wanted a pretty bottle your breaking out the Kraylon each time or waiting for your bottle to be filled and returned and that was for a steel bottle that could hold Nitrogen. But I guess it wouldn't hurt to put Co2 in it. Its just going to be heavier than those nice alum. jobbies.

It sounds like if you have your own bottle they are always checking to make sure it has been tested and approved recently. I don't mind using their exchange bottle I would just like to know if the handle that powertank sales if it will fit the steel bottle. Then at least I have a bottle and regulator that can both accept Nitrogen.

The Powertanks regulator is 200psi , their super is 300psi and the one from Praxair was 500psi. Does that mean I will have faster air delivery? I definately want the monster valves for my wheels :skull

 

[Deleted Account]

Here's some more info...

http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.php?t=61359

 

[Troy McClure]

I looked on Gen Rights sight and they don't have the tanks there, they had them at Pomona. However in the thread that Riverkid listed a guy is selling what looks like the one they had a Gen Right.

Here it is.

http://www.ultimate-air.com/EXpress-LT-10-System_p_0-11.html

 

[Troy McClure]

The Powertanks regulator is 200psi , their super is 300psi and the one from Praxair was 500psi. Does that mean I will have faster air delivery? I definately want the monster valves for my wheels :skull

No, psi doesn't have an effect on air delivery, look for CFM.

 

[Mandelon]

I use the CO2 tank. The only issue is if you wonder if you can one more trip out of it before its out of gas.....

I also have one of those Costco specials...little air pump that connects to your lighter..takes about 15 minutes a tire!!! But good enough as a back up.

The CO2 tank has some other bennies....hook a die grinder up to the end of an air hose....1/4" socket bit on the business end and it will spin a blender jug...instant margaritas or Mudslides!

 

[Troy McClure]

OOPs, screwed up the place I saw the generic tanks was Poly Performance, was just researching something else and came across it...

Here:

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/CO2-Kits-p-57.html

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[wUTwZAT]

OOPs, screwed up the place I saw the generic tanks was Poly Performance, was just researching something else and came across it...

Here:

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/CO2-Kits-p-57.html

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Thanks, I went to the one place and didn't see anything and figured I'd give them a call on Monday.

 

[sean]

before you make a purchase call grunion he's a member here and specialises in air systems. he's got a few of us done up nice for horns n such and i know alot of guys he's done full suspension systems (lots of volume) grunionfabrication.com

 

[essexjet]

I would get the powertank regulator kit for $248 (HPX series 200psi 35cfm) that comes with the handle and coiled hose. Don't quote me on this but I'm not sure you should run air tools at 500psi. You want to fill tires and run tools at about 200psi