Possible Hit and Run Near River Lodge.

[Lucky Larry]

Someone else posted that we’re across river and could see them waving the flag.

This mother f’er needs to be ratted out. I don’t condone snitching unless someone’s been harmed. If you were on the boat & are keeping quiet, I hope your conscience bothers you. And if you stay silent, I hope shit hits you in the face every day.

“Lucky’s Wife”

 

[2Driver]

Someone who seemed to be close to the situation posted on ‘Parker Live Online’ that he had not yet lost an arm. Let’s pray he has a full recovery. And if I’m not mistaken, the helo ride is about a $25k ride so I’m sure they’ll need help with that.

“Lucky’s Wife”

Cool people are helping out. I thought Obama care covered everything and everyone. What happened.

 

[Kfabe]

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Someone else posted that we’re across river and could see them waving the flag.

This mother f’er needs to be ratted out. I don’t condone snitching unless someone’s been harmed. If you were on the boat & are keeping quiet, I hope your conscience bothers you. And if you stay silent, I hope shit hits you in the face every day.

“Lucky’s Wife”

I find it extremely hard to believe that you have 10-12 soulless people on a boat that wouldn’t say a word. Whats the old saying “two can keep a secret if one of them is dead.” 10-12 people can’t keep that kind of secret.

 

[Magic Mike]

Similar to this accident but involving a Fountain? Years ago?

 

[2Driver]

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Someone else posted that we’re across river and could see them waving the flag.

This mother f’er needs to be ratted out. I don’t condone snitching unless someone’s been harmed. If you were on the boat & are keeping quiet, I hope your conscience bothers you. And if you stay silent, I hope shit hits you in the face every day.

“Lucky’s Wife”

I agree Its emotional and you want to hang the guy but before you hand out torches and pitch forks we should remind ourselves that no one can even properly describe the boat, so why take to heart that a claim is accurate about which way the people were facing.

Besides at 5:30pm the glare is so bad right there it would be natural for the passengers to all be facing backwards while riding.

IMO At this point there is a better chance of the people coming forward than finding the boat. Even if they didn’t know they did it, by now someone on that boat may have caught up to all this news and may be thinking, geez could that have been us.

 

[hallett21]

I’m skeptical of social media “eye witness accounts”. Everyone wants to be “the one” who was there and tells the story first.

I’d take the story of the boat that approached the sheriff over the online ones


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[NicPaus]

@BoatCop

Did you guys have known homes with security cameras faced at the water that you could reference.

if you had video footage above and below the incident 10 mins prior you could at least narrow down this tan/blue/black/Nordic/magic/cigar boat


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There is camera in front of the lagoon at river lodge. It caught a accident few years ago clear as day. It faces the narrowest part of the river. I drove through there Saturday and had a boat towing several on a tube come through opposite direction whipping them wide. I almost came off plane to avoid them. Lots of rookies this weekend but recall it being similar to the yellow jet boat pictured.

 

[cofooter]

Exactly.
Usually social media helps in these cases, but they have screwed up the
dissemination of data so bad the opportunity to find this guy has been greatly impaired.

Most the posts are difficult to decipher what the person is trying to get across. Who’s boat, your boat, there are 3 boats in the picture. It’s a Magic boat, no the color is Magic blue and wood color too. wtf.

The only thing consistent is the full length dark bimini top people are so fixated on. If the suspect is on social media his top came down immediately.

At least the victim will survive. This is mounting up to be a lost cause unless a picture pops up or someone on the suspect boat can't live with themselves any longer.

I’m skeptical of social media “eye witness accounts”. Everyone wants to be “the one” who was there and tells the story first.

I’d take the story of the boat that approached the sheriff over the online ones


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Hopefully the sheriffs know a lot more about this and have some leads, too many opinions on social media to understand what is real and not real and definitely not helping the solution.

 

[attitude]

Terrible situation, however I believe the driver of the tow boat should be punished to the same extent as the driver of the “Magic” i can’t wrap my head around someone thinking it’s a good idea to do any water sports in Parker on the afternoon of a holiday weekend. Might as well just let your kids play frogger on the freeway...

 

[Duramax]

Similar to this accident but involving a Fountain? Years ago?

Whatever happened with that?

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Driver likely had a few beers, decided on the I didnt know excuse, the sun, etc., allowing him time to go home and get sober and come forward today.

 

[mash on it]

From the original article:

"The investigation revealed that a 19 year-old man from Cottonwood, AZ was riding on a tube along with a female rider when they both fell off."

I hope he makes a full recovery.

He's 19, and chose to go tubing.
Try to tell a 19 year old MAN anything, let alone how to have fun in Parker, on Labor day weekend. This was not a child.

The offending boat knows he hit something.
I hit something in the basin on Mohave, turned around and tried to find it, never found anything. (Easy 2 mi from shore, either direction, in a 19' squirt böté)

Sounds like the boat has an identifiable Bimini top. Hope LEO's find him.

Sad deal all the way around.

Dan'l

 

[ka0tyk]

the thing that bothers me about all of this, is all the people who are unrelated all chiming in with all their useless info. especially on riverwhips. the descriptions of the boat are all over the place... very specific nordic, to a magic deckboat, to a pontoon boat according to the mother, then a "cigarette picklefork purple boat" whatever the hell that is. theres people who werent even in the same state that day on that dumb group saying which boat it was and posting pictures/facebook accounts.

the other thing is all the nancy's saying "dont victim shame!"... im sorry but the captain and spotters job of the boat towing the person in the water is to keep them safe at all times... there was NOTHING safe about last weekend on a narrow water way.

 

[cakemoto]

Cool people are helping out. I thought Obama care covered everything and everyone. What happened.

No fuck Obama care my grandpa died under that shit because he couldn’t get help.

 

[4Waters]

This shits all over the place, my wife saw on Facebook this morning that it was a pontoon and appeared to be a rental. IDFK.

 

[Dirtbag]

blows me away that captains dont think about the possibility of the people they are pulling on a raft might fall off in the middle of heavy traffic. I see it every time im in havasu in thompson bay. blows my mind

 

[monkeyswrench]

In the case of the tube puller, I agree with most on here. I sure as hell won't pull my kids or anyone else on busy days. Not worth the risk to them. It isn't just yourself, it's watching out for "the other guy". We stayed home...will be out next weekend.

The guy who won't step up though, that really bugs me. By now, everyone knows what happened. There is a good chance they even passed the EMT's. Even if they were drunk, and sobered up, step up. Even if they were drunk, now I don't think they could be charged as such, having no proof of previous...I think. Either way, best to step up on their own.

 

[2Driver]

I guess the guy that was hit can’t add to the basic boat description?

Bow and stern cameras like dash cams might not be a bad idea. Worse case they would produce some interesting footage.

 

[Looking Glass]

Gray and tan picklefork with some magic blue, yellow and orange. May or may not have a cigar deck boat full length bimini in black. Got it.

the thing that bothers me about all of this, is all the people who are unrelated all chiming in with all their useless info. especially on riverwhips. the descriptions of the boat are all over the place... very specific nordic, to a magic deckboat, to a pontoon boat according to the mother, then a "cigarette picklefork purple boat" whatever the hell that is. theres people who werent even in the same state that day on that dumb group saying which boat it was and posting pictures/facebook accounts.

the other thing is all the nancy's saying "dont victim shame!"... im sorry but the captain and spotters job of the boat towing the person in the water is to keep them safe at all times... there was NOTHING safe about last weekend on a narrow water way.

Isn't there a possibility that the "victim" was not seen, maybe under water, facing away from the boat so all that was showing was dark hair, rough water messing with any view.?

All I read is the "BOAT" is guilty of Hit and Run. Charged, Tried and Found Guilty.

I really wonder if he was not seen, isn't it possible to hit a person and never know it? Boat noise, music, other boats on and on and on.

 

[sintax]

blows me away that captains dont think about the possibility of the people they are pulling on a raft might fall off in the middle of heavy traffic. I see it every time im in havasu in thompson bay. blows my mind

common sense aint so common these days.

its sad, to say but i'd absolutely tell whoever, that this is not going to happen. You want to tube on a holiday weekend, be responsible and find a remote cove way outta the way of idiots.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Isn't there a possibility that the "victim" was not seen, maybe under water, facing away from the boat so all that was showing was dark hair, rough water messing with any view.?

All I read is the "BOAT" is guilty of Hit and Run. Charged, Tried and Found Guilty.

I really wonder if he was not seen, isn't it possible to hit a person and never know it? Boat noise, music, other boats on and on and on.

Soft tissue doesnt make much noise, especially in rough water, shit load of engine noises all around, stereo bumping, passengers yelling and screaming, not knowing he hit someone is a very real possibility. The part about not being too close to the tuber in the first place is more concerning, that and the guy that thought it was fine to pull tubers on the river on labor day weekend, he was legally allowed to be there, but common sense should have prevailed.

 

[buck35]

Isn't there a possibility that the "victim" was not seen, maybe under water, facing away from the boat so all that was showing was dark hair, rough water messing with any view.?

All I read is the "BOAT" is guilty of Hit and Run. Charged, Tried and Found Guilty.

I really wonder if he was not seen, isn't it possible to hit a person and never know it? Boat noise, music, other boats on and on and on.

To an extent,I have to agree here. I haven't seen or read if they were following or oncoming to the victim. Add to that roughly 12 people aboard,there's a lot going on there in that craft,,and dought those dozen could or would all stay silent if they knew. Dunno,very sad deal all around.

 

[ka0tyk]

Isn't there a possibility that the "victim" was not seen, maybe under water, facing away from the boat so all that was showing was dark hair, rough water messing with any view.?

All I read is the "BOAT" is guilty of Hit and Run. Charged, Tried and Found Guilty.

I really wonder if he was not seen, isn't it possible to hit a person and never know it? Boat noise, music, other boats on and on and on.

I personally wouldnt doubt it... the problem is that if the boat/person is found and if this goes before a judge/jury that you'd be expecting the general public to understand just how loud a big block engine is in a boat at speed with everything else going on, visibility in choppy water, etc. A lot of things that the general population has no clue on.

 

[BoatCop]

@BoatCop

Did you guys have known homes with security cameras faced at the water that you could reference.

if you had video footage above and below the incident 10 mins prior you could at least narrow down this tan/blue/black/Nordic/magic/cigar boat


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Didn't when I was there. Remember I retired over 5 years ago. Not many had any type of security then. I knew of a few, one or two in Miraleste Shores and a couple in Vista Del Monumente (Keys riverfront). But those were aimed at the docks for security, not into the River.

Regarding responsibility, the tow boat driver definitely would be at least partially liable.

I got called as an expert witness on an incident about 20 years ago where a tournament ski boat with bow seats made a sharp 180 degree turn (think a Mike Mack - Mike Murphy type turn) with a guy in the front. He was thrown overboard and got hit by the prop, cutting up his right forearm and bicep pretty bad. Dude was a Chiropractor, so you can guess what those kind of injuries did to his career. Multi million $$$ suit. My testimony was whether I believed that a sharp turn like that, without any warning, would be considered Negligent. (of course it would). I didn't even get to actually testify. It was at a "binding arbitration" case in front of a retired judge, rather than a full blown civil court trial. Just gave them my CV and waited to be called, BSing with this cute secretary. After sitting there for 4 hours, the Attorney came out and told me they stipulated that it WAS Negligent, and thanked me for my time. Fat check, validated parking, lunch, and mileage to Downtown LA and back. Sweet gig if you can get it.

This case would be similar. As the "captain", he is responsible for all passengers, including those being towed. He knew or should have known the danger in pulling tubers in that narrow area, with the kind of traffic, on Saturday afternoon on a Holiday weekend. Hell, I have more experience than ANYONE on that River, and will guarantee that I'm the safest dude out there. But I would never even be on the water with my family or friends on a holiday weekend, much less pulling a tube.

NEGLIGENT? I'd go one further and say that it would be flat out RECKLESS.

Before anyone thinks about suggesting me as an asset for the victim, DON'T. I'm FULLY retired, but I can make some suggestions on someone, if/when it gets to that point.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

Didn't when I was there. Remember I retired over 5 years ago. Not many had any type of security then. I knew of a few, one or two in Miraleste Shores and a couple in Vista Del Monumente (Keys riverfront). But those were aimed at the docks for security, not into the River.

Regarding responsibility, the tow boat driver definitely would be at least partially liable.

I got called as an expert witness on an incident about 20 years ago where a tournament ski boat with bow seats made a sharp 180 degree turn (think a Mike Mack - Mike Murphy type turn) with a guy in the front. He was thrown overboard and got hit by the prop, cutting up his right forearm and bicep pretty bad. Dude was a Chiropractor, so you can guess what those kind of injuries did to his career. Multi million $$$ suit. My testimony was whether I believed that a sharp turn like that, without any warning, would be considered Negligent. (of course it would). I didn't even get to actually testify. It was at a "binding arbitration" case in front of a retired judge, rather than a full blown civil court trial. Just gave them my CV and waited to be called, BSing with this cute secretary. After sitting there for 4 hours, the Attorney came out and told me they stipulated that it WAS Negligent, and thanked me for my time. Fat check, validated parking, lunch, and mileage to Downtown LA and back. Sweet gig if you can get it.

This case would be similar. As the "captain", he is responsible for all passengers, including those being towed. He knew or should have known the danger in pulling tubers in that narrow area, with the kind of traffic, on Saturday afternoon on a Holiday weekend. Hell, I have more experience than ANYONE on that River, and will guarantee that I'm the safest dude out there. But I would never even be on the water with my family or friends on a holiday weekend, much less pulling a tube.

NEGLIGENT? I'd go one further and say that it would be flat out RECKLESS.

Before anyone thinks about suggesting me as an asset for the victim, DON'T. I'm FULLY retired, but I can make some suggestions on someone, if/when it gets to that point.

I'm actually pretty happy that you and others in this thread think this way. People with not so common sense are still out there and won't put others in danger.

 

[Deckin Around]

I realized last trip that all of our life vests are black neoprene. My Son has a new one with bright yellow and orange and holy cow it made me think about how much harder it is to see everyone else down in the water in the black ones to the extent I may tie orange reflective ribbon to the tops.

 

[Outdrive1]

Didn't when I was there. Remember I retired over 5 years ago. Not many had any type of security then. I knew of a few, one or two in Miraleste Shores and a couple in Vista Del Monumente (Keys riverfront). But those were aimed at the docks for security, not into the River.

Regarding responsibility, the tow boat driver definitely would be at least partially liable.

I got called as an expert witness on an incident about 20 years ago where a tournament ski boat with bow seats made a sharp 180 degree turn (think a Mike Mack - Mike Murphy type turn) with a guy in the front. He was thrown overboard and got hit by the prop, cutting up his right forearm and bicep pretty bad. Dude was a Chiropractor, so you can guess what those kind of injuries did to his career. Multi million $$$ suit. My testimony was whether I believed that a sharp turn like that, without any warning, would be considered Negligent. (of course it would). I didn't even get to actually testify. It was at a "binding arbitration" case in front of a retired judge, rather than a full blown civil court trial. Just gave them my CV and waited to be called, BSing with this cute secretary. After sitting there for 4 hours, the Attorney came out and told me they stipulated that it WAS Negligent, and thanked me for my time. Fat check, validated parking, lunch, and mileage to Downtown LA and back. Sweet gig if you can get it.

This case would be similar. As the "captain", he is responsible for all passengers, including those being towed. He knew or should have known the danger in pulling tubers in that narrow area, with the kind of traffic, on Saturday afternoon on a Holiday weekend. Hell, I have more experience than ANYONE on that River, and will guarantee that I'm the safest dude out there. But I would never even be on the water with my family or friends on a holiday weekend, much less pulling a tube.

NEGLIGENT? I'd go one further and say that it would be flat out RECKLESS.

Before anyone thinks about suggesting me as an asset for the victim, DON'T. I'm FULLY retired, but I can make some suggestions on someone, if/when it gets to that point.

I hadn’t touched on that in my posts. That being said. No way would I be pulling a kid, on a holiday weekend. Especially in that area and time of day. There aren’t many people with more time on the water than me, besides yourself, not including your Coast Guard time. I would not be comfortable at all on the water, Saturday afternoon on Labor Day, if you say you wouldn’t either, than it’s really a poor decision for anyone.


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[boatnam2]

I hadn’t touched on that in my posts. That being said. No way would I be pulling a kid, on a holiday weekend. Especially in that area and time of day. There aren’t many people with more time on the water than me, besides yourself, not including your Coast Guard time. I would not be comfortable at all on the water, Saturday afternoon on Labor Day, if you say you wouldn’t either, than it’s really a poor decision for anyone.


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Exactly! I do have a camera that records at echo but only for a couple of days, problem is i can't get access to it currently. I will check as soon as i can get it, hopefully it will still have footage.

 

[BHC Vic]

Honestly, I'd would think LEO will broaden the search to all boats that fit or fit similar to the individuals description.

If everyone gets hung up on Magic and “full length black bimini” people could overlook the suspect boat if it ends up being different, not that it is.

Maybe so, maybe it is a tan Magic with a 24’ bimini top. I wouldn’t rule out they could be using Magic in the generic sense like people do with cigarette boat. I bet it’s hard to put together thoughts under that duress. Tan base color deck boat to me says don’t rule out an Ebb-tide or Chaparral with a big dark bimini top, or any other manufacturer that vaguely fits the description.

I’ve listened to one too many podcasts, but that’s exactly what happened with the DC shooter(s) they got hung up on a description and missed the vehicle several times. Officers even spoke to the sniper at one location

 

[Dirtbag]

I realized last trip that all of our life vests are black neoprene. My Son has a new one with bright yellow and orange and holy cow it made me think about how much harder it is to see everyone else down in the water in the black ones to the extent I may tie orange reflective ribbon to the tops.

son of a bitch i never thought about this either.....time to make a change! I guess there is a reason the cheap floatation devices are bright orange :/

 

[4Waters]

son of a bitch i never thought about this either.....time to make a change! I guess there is a reason the cheap floatation devices are bright orange :/

I've thought about it but it's a little difficult to find vests with bright colors.

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

Didn't when I was there. Remember I retired over 5 years ago. Not many had any type of security then. I knew of a few, one or two in Miraleste Shores and a couple in Vista Del Monumente (Keys riverfront). But those were aimed at the docks for security, not into the River.

Regarding responsibility, the tow boat driver definitely would be at least partially liable.

I got called as an expert witness on an incident about 20 years ago where a tournament ski boat with bow seats made a sharp 180 degree turn (think a Mike Mack - Mike Murphy type turn) with a guy in the front. He was thrown overboard and got hit by the prop, cutting up his right forearm and bicep pretty bad. Dude was a Chiropractor, so you can guess what those kind of injuries did to his career. Multi million $$$ suit. My testimony was whether I believed that a sharp turn like that, without any warning, would be considered Negligent. (of course it would). I didn't even get to actually testify. It was at a "binding arbitration" case in front of a retired judge, rather than a full blown civil court trial. Just gave them my CV and waited to be called, BSing with this cute secretary. After sitting there for 4 hours, the Attorney came out and told me they stipulated that it WAS Negligent, and thanked me for my time. Fat check, validated parking, lunch, and mileage to Downtown LA and back. Sweet gig if you can get it.

This case would be similar. As the "captain", he is responsible for all passengers, including those being towed. He knew or should have known the danger in pulling tubers in that narrow area, with the kind of traffic, on Saturday afternoon on a Holiday weekend. Hell, I have more experience than ANYONE on that River, and will guarantee that I'm the safest dude out there. But I would never even be on the water with my family or friends on a holiday weekend, much less pulling a tube.

NEGLIGENT? I'd go one further and say that it would be flat out RECKLESS.

Before anyone thinks about suggesting me as an asset for the victim, DON'T. I'm FULLY retired, but I can make some suggestions on someone, if/when it gets to that point.

First let me say I for one always appreciate your inputs on these threads.... so what I took away on this one was I have to be certain that whoever I bring aboard won't sue me for my dumbass moves on my boat.... waivers to be printed up promptly for pre board signatures. Joking [kind of]

 

[boatnam2]

I've thought about it but it's a little difficult to find vests with bright colors.

You can find them, I have a neon green one and a orange one I wear, I throw on a bright yellow rash guard also when I ride the wave runner.

 

[cofooter]

The mentality on the river anymore for some people is "don't get in my way" I've got a bigger and faster boat than you. Thats a problem. Why blow through a narrow section of river when people are towing tubes. The guy towing the tube is questionable for sure, even reckelss as Boatcop says, but damn blowin through there at speed with busy traffic is just plain stupid and irresponsible. Hope they catch the guy that hit and run!.

 

[v6toy4x]

53K Chopper from Atascadero to Stanford

Membership – CALSTAR

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I have this for my family, I have seen close friends get airlifted out of the mountains, it is a sobering experience, and can be the only option. And one that shouldnt leave you financially strapped.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

53K Chopper from Atascadero to Stanford

Membership – CALSTAR

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I have this for my family, I have seen close friends get airlifted out of the mountains, it is a sobering experience, and can be the only option. And one that shouldnt leave you financially strapped.

I had to take a chopper ride from Teagle Wash to Loma Linda once back in abojt '06 I believe. Got a bill for $28k and there was another guy in the chopper with me that was in MUCH worse shape. Turned the bill into Kaiser (our insurance at the time) and only had to pay the $100 co-pay.

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[Bloocent1]

Been coming to Parker for 14 years now... got married there as well... I know this river so well. First off, no tubing or wakeboarding for my kids unless super early in morning. They dont even want to go. This is a narrow river in some parts and not a huge lake. I do not condone leaving if you feel something was hit, but please do not tube or wakeboard out there on a busy day.... wait for a off day or during the week.

 

[EarpRider]

the thing that bothers me about all of this, is all the people who are unrelated all chiming in with all their useless info. especially on riverwhips. the descriptions of the boat are all over the place... very specific nordic, to a magic deckboat, to a pontoon boat according to the mother, then a "cigarette picklefork purple boat" whatever the hell that is. theres people who werent even in the same state that day on that dumb group saying which boat it was and posting pictures/facebook accounts.

the other thing is all the nancy's saying "dont victim shame!"... im sorry but the captain and spotters job of the boat towing the person in the water is to keep them safe at all times... there was NOTHING safe about last weekend on a narrow water way.

Sounds like you have no problem chiming in.

 

[EarpRider]

The mentality on the river anymore for some people is "don't get in my way" I've got a bigger and faster boat than you. Thats a problem. Why blow through a narrow section of river when people are towing tubes. The guy towing the tube is questionable for sure, even reckelss as Boatcop says, but damn blowin through there at speed with busy traffic is just plain stupid and irresponsible. Hope they catch the guy that hit and run!.

EXACTLY! How about everyone say "Why haul ass on a busy weekend?" I would never ski, tube etc... on a busy weekend but I would also never drive fast knowing that people are tubing and wakeboarding and that the water is choppy and it makes it even harder to see if someone or something is in front of you.
And the water in front of River Lodge is wide for Parker, yes you do have a corner coming south from rock island, so once the driver of the suspect boat cleared the rocks then he should have slowed down to make sure nothing was in his path. Stop blaming the people in the water, if your going to fast to stop from running over someone then your at fault.

 

[RiverDave]

It’s easy to say “well this or that”. But we weren’t there and knowing what truly happened isn’t gonna be solved in a thread on the internet..


I drive very conservatively and I ran up on a guy out in the middle of the river with a life jacket on and No boat around several times during the course of my life..

they fall off and the boat keeps going and a huge distance gets out between them in the boat in a matter of ten seconds maybe 15?

I saw them each time.. and in every instance stopped my bost next to them to kinda shield them from on comjng traffic..

I am not saying that is what happened here but I have seen it enough to know it’s a real possibility.

one little distraction or perhaps a glare and some waves and that can end in tragedy quickly.

I like to believe the best in people. I can’tthink someone would run someone over and intentionally keep going.. even if they’re eee a shit bag and would.. to do it with 12+ witnesses?

I hope someone comes forward.. and suspect if anyone in the boat truly knows they will.

 

[rrrr]

My dads helicopter ride was 35k from KRMC to Banner in Phoenix. You are correct. Not cheap.

That's why my wife and I purchased 'membership' in CareFlite, they're the DFW helicopter EMS provider. We are 100% covered for helicopter transport to a hospital, and also have fixed wing air ambulance coverage in a 500 mile radius around DFW.

It's hard to believe, but the five year membership program we're on cost $145 for both of us. These programs are available through most HEMS providers nationwide. It's obviously a great deal.

 

[SS-C]

Hey RD,

You have lots of connections and know lots of people in Parker, Is there no leads at all?

Sure seems to be a lot of conflicting info on this sad tragedy.

 

[Outdrive1]

Hey RD,

You have lots of connections and know lots of people in Parker, Is there no leads at all?

Sure seems to be a lot of conflicting info on this sad tragedy.

I live here. I need a good description of the boat. Sketch would do wonders.


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[ka0tyk]

I live here. I need a good description of the boat. Sketch would do wonders.


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as depicted by all the expert witnesses

 

[stephenkatsea]

If one thing of value has come from this thread, it is the unfortunate dark color of most recreational PFDs at this time. And, as required, they are even USCG Approved! Dark or black vest, boat traffic and a little glare from the sun and it is a tragedy just waiting to happen.

 

[Echo Lodge]

If one thing of value has come from this thread, it is the unfortunate dark color of most recreational PFDs at this time. And, as required, they are even USCG Approved! Dark or black vest, boat traffic and a little glare from the sun and it is a tragedy just waiting to happen.

One of the main reasons I wear a brain bucket when I foil.... Visibility! Well, that and hitting an occasional overhead utility line that cross the river and sends you into a flat spin and knocks the crap out of you!

 

[84miller]

I avoid busy times on the river. I read the Parker live and it "appears" Sherry Lynn who was the flagger has the best information on this accident. Two people on the tube, both fell off, but were not close together in the water. The boat behind saw the girl in the water "late" and swerved to miss and ran over the guy, who "yeks" got tagged by the prop. He is doing ok and it appears his arm will be saved. So here is my perspective as what should have been done. If the behind boater missed seeing the girl on the onset and swerved, he should have shut his boat down then and there to protect her. That is what I would have done as if I did not see her boaters behind me might not. I shut my boat down all the time, could be a wave runner going wild, someone in the water...too much traffic.

Side note, as far as the helicopter cost. My step dad had a heart attack at CRA, Parker Hospital air flighted him to Phoenix. They billed him. I called and got the bill removed. How, I told them Parker Hospital made the decision to air lift, we were not asked or involved in that decision. That is pretty much all you need to do.

 

[SoCalDave]

If one thing of value has come from this thread, it is the unfortunate dark color of most recreational PFDs at this time. And, as required, they are even USCG Approved! Dark or black vest, boat traffic and a little glare from the sun and it is a tragedy just waiting to happen.

Back in 2011 we were coming back up river to Laughlin from Pirates Cove in my 210. It was about 6:30-7pm and we were just south of Rotary Park and started to get lots of boat/wave-runner traffic when I spotted something dark bobbing in the water about 50-75 yards in front of me. I kept my eye on it and didn't realize it was a person until I was almost right to him. Black vest, black hair, dark skinned Hispanic. I stopped as it looked as if he was in trouble and we helped up onto the swim step. Turned out he was paralyzed from the waist down. He had been on the back of a rented wave-runner with his cousin when they both fell off as his cousin and the wave-runner were about 100 yards up river. He told us he had been trying to get boats/people to stop and help him for about 25 minutes and no one would stop. I figured no one saw him and he was just lucky that day that he didn't get hit. Anyway I drive up to his cousin and ask him if he can get on the ski and he stated he had been trying but was to tired as he was a bit over weight. I instructed him to get behind the ski and pull himself into it which he did (was trying to get on from the side of it). They said they had family at Rotary Park so I had him follow me there. Once we arrived all the cholos/cholas were there cheering him on for getting to ride in my boat. He thanked me and one of the elder ones did as well.
No sooner did the guy get off the ski when two fat chicks jumped on it at took off down river...

 

[Looking Glass]

Back in 2011 we were coming back up river to Laughlin from Pirates Cove in my 210. It was about 6:30-7pm and we were just south of Rotary Park and started to get lots of boat/wave-runner traffic when I spotted something dark bobbing in the water about 50-75 yards in front of me. I kept my eye on it and didn't realize it was a person until I was almost right to him. Black vest, black hair, dark skinned Hispanic. I stopped as it looked as if he was in trouble and we helped up onto the swim step. Turned out he was paralyzed from the waist down. He had been on the back of a rented wave-runner with his cousin when they both fell off as his cousin and the wave-runner were about 100 yards up river. He told us he had been trying to get boats/people to stop and help him for about 25 minutes and no one would stop. I figured no one saw him and he was just lucky that day that he didn't get hit. Anyway I drive up to his cousin and ask him if he can get on the ski and he stated he had been trying but was to tired as he was a bit over weight. I instructed him to get behind the ski and pull himself into it which he did (was trying to get on from the side of it). They said they had family at Rotary Park so I had him follow me there. Once we arrived all the cholos/cholas were there cheering him on for getting to ride in my boat. He thanked me and one of the elder ones did as well.
No sooner did the guy get off the ski when two fat chicks jumped on it at took off down river...

"Fat Chicks" just wanna have fun!!

 

[Magic Mike]

In the late 90's, my wife and I were on our Magic at Mojave. Saw a Sea doo floating, as we approached I could see the rider in the water about 25 feet from it, he started waving his arms and screaming. Got up to him and could see he was hurt bad and wasted. Dragged him up on the swim step, he was bleeding, crying and said his leg was broken. He had run in to one of his friends on their Sea doo, they had gone to get help I guess. Putted slow to the beach, dude was screaming in pain with every small movement of the boat. Helicopter landing on the beach as we pulled up, he was very thankful as a bunch of people carried him to the chopper. Never heard anything else about it.