You never need to refill or top off refrigerants. So your life cycle is 15-20yrs. Most homes today still have r22 which is what we used before 410
Is it better to get R410 unit or wait for new units with R32?
Not true at all.
Can you wait? if so wait.
One would think topping up in the event of a leaking system.
At list once a year
? Need work? If it works and filters changed on schedule all the maintenance needed. Maybe spray outdoor coils periodicly.
Wholly shit you are my kind of sucker I mean customer.
A leaking system needs to be remedied not band aided by adding Freon.
Get a 410. You will be good for years and save money. Like cl said if your topping off something else is wrong.
I had a customer 2 weeks ago tell me to wait until 2030 to buy a new system and he sells and services HVAC systems.
If it's not leaking, where is it going? Refrigerant doesn't get used up in the process.
Educate us, please !This thread is funny
so much misinformation
Just tell me I’m good with my system.This thread is funny
so much misinformation
You’re good.Just tell me I’m good with my system.
Yes 410 is being phased out. The new systems will use r32, r454b etc these are slightly flammable but supposedly more environmentally friendly. The new equipment is about 20% more due to the safeties needed and because the manufacturers can. I have yeat to see equipment ever get cheaper in my career so the advice of “wait till 2030” is about the worst someone can give to anyone.
Your customer is an idiot and a black eye on our trade.I had a customer 2 weeks ago tell me to wait until 2030 to buy a new system and he sells and services HVAC systems.
refrigerant is like water on earth it never leaves the system if it’s working properly.
32 and 454 function very much like r22. We’ve been installing the new stuff for a few months now.
Exactly when was the last time you heard someone adding refrigerant to their fridge?
its the same thing as an air conditioner
I’m a bad ac guy, I can’t even fix my own.
There’s also money back for converting from gas to heat pump ($1500) we do a lot of conversions mainly due to ultra low box furnaces (only required in so cal AQMD territory) having such a high failure rate.
My guy replaces my charge in my fridge and AC yearly... What you talkin bout Willis?Exactly when was the last time you heard someone adding refrigerant to their fridge?
I swap out summer air for winter air in my tires.
Good way to improve yore mileage.
Well he owns an HVAC company and seems to be darn successful so he's clearly not an idiot.
You are kidding, right?
To go with the seals they carry?
Well that doesn’t explain why techs carry refrigerant.
There’s nothing happening in 2030 that is going to cost less than today.
In 2030 it will be much more expensive than it is today.
In the process of servicing and repairing there will be refrigerant loss. So we do need to add at times and under certain repairs. But a normally operating system doesn’t need refrigerant added unless it’s being lost somewhere (leak)Well that doesn’t explain why techs carry refrigerant.
My last house was blowing as cold as ever when I sold it. Never had any added in the 24 years I lived there.
Yes he mentioned that as well. His take was that current systems will become obsolete based on laws that will be in effect then. Who knows maybe it will like the leaf blower ban and everyone will still be using themThere’s nothing happening in 2030 that is going to cost less than today.
I was being a little sarcastic.
Yep. I had my AC serviced a few months ago they found a small leak at the test fitting. Zurt? They needed to add a small amount and changed the fitting.
I know. But there are others who are probably wondering why. So figured might as well answer
