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Read all my posts several times on this and thought…..DAMN, I was totally wrong…..again…one thousand apologies kind members

blancolirio says that it cannot be a stall or, the flight aware data indicates that it wasn’t a stall. I suppose it could have been something gone horribly wrong in the cabin…..the angle of impact was steep so the aircraft just vaporized when it hit the earth……standing by for the final report

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This is a clearer ring video but the lights confuse me. lear 55 landing and taxi lights are located on main gear and nose gear respectively. So, what is the bright light in or on the nose section of this aircraft. The wing position lights can be seen in this video and maybe some of the nose lights could be ice lights. The wing inspection lights (ice lights) are on the fuselage just forward of the wing which illuminate wing leading edges a visual aid to determine if ice is accumulating.

if you stop the zoomed in part of the video just as the lights appear through the cloud, it looks as though something very bright is illuminating the interior. Like a magnesium fire. Anybody remember lighting magnesium strips in HS chemistry lab? It’s bright AF. Like arc welding.

also, this vid shows what appears like the aircraft is rolling on to its back and pitching to bring it straight in. I dunno, What does an oxygen fire look like?
 

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This is a clearer ring video but the lights confuse me. lear 55 landing and taxi lights are located on main gear and nose gear respectively. So, what is the bright light in or on the nose section of this aircraft. The wing position lights can be seen in this video and maybe some of the nose lights could be ice lights. The wing inspection lights (ice lights) are on the fuselage just forward of the wing which illuminate wing leading edges a visual aid to determine if ice is accumulating.

if you stop the zoomed in part of the video just as the lights appear through the cloud, it looks as though something very bright is illuminating the interior. Like a magnesium fire. Anybody remember lighting magnesium strips in HS chemistry lab? It’s bright AF. Like arc welding.

also, this vid shows what appears like the aircraft is rolling on to its back and pitching to bring it straight in. I dunno, What does an oxygen fire look like?
Oxygen doesn't burn, it supports combustion. In pure form it can make a normal fire really bright like you are saying you can possibly see through the windows.
 

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Doing some napkin math, I'm guessing there was somewhere between 500 and 600 gallons of fuel onboard, and the total aircraft weight was around 19,000 lbs at the time of the crash.

Using the Ring video to estimate speed at impact of 250 MPH, the energy expended to make that crater was about 61 megajoules. That's equivalent to the explosion of 15 kilograms of TNT, or 32 lbs.

The atomization and explosion of that much fuel corresponds with the size of the fireball.
 
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Doing some napkin math, I'm guessing there was somewhere between 750 and 900 gallons of fuel onboard, and the total aircraft weight was around 19,000 lbs at the time of the crash.

Using the Ring video to estimate speed at impact of 250 MPH, the energy expended to make that crater was about 61 megajoules. That's equivalent to the explosion of 15 kilograms of TNT, or 32 lbs.

The atomization and explosion of that much fuel corresponds with the size of the fireball.
I was wondering how much fuel would have been on board. When reports first came out, it was a "private plane". Seeing the fireball, made more sense it was a jet. Would oxygen on board contribute to such a massive fireball as well? Depending on the medical condition, I would think the length of flight may have required a fair amount, but I didn't know if there were regulations on amounts to be transported like this.
 

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I was wondering how much fuel would have been on board. When reports first came out, it was a "private plane". Seeing the fireball, made more sense it was a jet. Would oxygen on board contribute to such a massive fireball as well? Depending on the medical condition, I would think the length of flight may have required a fair amount, but I didn't know if there were regulations on amounts to be transported like this.
I just revised my fuel numbers, having seen some more accurate capacity and consumption numbers. There were a couple of small aircraft tanks on board, and two medical cylinders. I've seen a photo of one medical cylinder with the valve broken off, but it's almost certain that occurred in the crash. It was supposedly found a quarter mile away from the crater, but that doesn't mean much other than the energy of the crash put it there.
 
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