Phil plane crash

[DILLIGAF]

Into mall and houses a bit ago

 

[DILLIGAF]

Odd looking video and the explosion was huge. I mean really big explosion.

 

[Done-it-again]

Odd looking video and the explosion was huge. I mean really big explosion.

Almost look like a missel or that plane was on a full throttle nose dive.

 

[napanutt]

x.com

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[Willie B]

… we’re not even through January… And look at all the shit that has happened… WTF is next…

 

[napanutt]

Pretty big explosion from a reported “ small” plane.

 

[monkeyswrench]

… we’re not even through January… And look at all the shit that has happened… WTF is next…

Never ask...

I remember thinking one night "WTF else can go wrong?"
I woke up in a ditch, broken pretty bad.

 

[boatpi]

Latest word on Fox News it’s a medevac flight with doctors and nurses on Board. . Sad situation.

 

[Q4mtxUS]

Some chitter chatter on the inter webs….Lear-55, air ambulance , 6 souls onboard

Edit:
I’ll just add stuff here rather than post new.……interweb pontification is bloviating oxygen starvation. Remember Payne Stewart incident?

edit2:
The Payne Stewart crash, all on board were dead as the cabin pressurization failed so the aircraft continued to fly on auto pilot til fuel starvation. So with this, if it is indeed a Lear 55, nose in crash, exploding in flames from fuel in the tanks then, O2 starvation not likely. But, a Lear jet appears like missle when coming straight down

Edit3:
sooooo…..since i rarely go upstairs to the lounge, is possible that this is the beginning of the terrorists retaliatory attacks as the intel lady talked about on the SRS podcast…..uhhhhh…..hmmmmm?

Edit4;
it appears as though this was a textbook aircraft accident. Sad but it happens. Move along, nothing to expand on further here
Prayers and condolences

 

[Sandlord]

Sad

 

[TonyFanelli]

… we’re not even through January… And look at all the shit that has happened… WTF is next…

No shit! It's been non-stop since the new year. Like we're living in the National Enquirer...Stay tuned
Duffy's gonna have a stroke!

 

[Outdrive1]

Crazy that there’s another bad accident already.

 

[TonyFanelli]

Wow a video shows that thing coming down about 2000 mph, actually looked like a comet

 

[4Waters]

Almost look like a missel or that plane was on a full throttle nose dive.

Wow a video shows that thing coming down about 2000 mph, actually looked like a comet

Where's that video

 

[Done-it-again]

Where's that video

Been seeing it on Fox News.

 

[Outdrive1]

Looks like war zone Holy shit

 

[Done-it-again]

News said some doctors and patient on board.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Almost look like a missel or that plane was on a full throttle nose dive.

I agree. Didnt want to call it a that but it is what it looked like to me.

 

[4Waters]

Holy shit

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[Q4mtxUS]

Holy shit

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Fuckin hell…sounds like power on, one or both engines running

 

[TonyFanelli]

Where's that video

They said it dropped around 11000 feet per second, and it was only in the air for 50 seconds...no fuckin way!

 

[rrrr]

The Learjet family are small swept wing bizjets. Like its other siblings, the Model 55 requires strict attention to low altitude maneuvering speeds, and a stall recovery can involve more than 2,000' of altitude.

Recall the 2021 accident involving Lear Model 35A, N880Z, at San Diego-Gillespie Field. That medevac aircraft stalled while circling to land, and killed all occupants. It's unforgiving when speeds aren't closely adhered to.

I hope there aren't major casualties on the ground. That was a big fireball.

 

[napanutt]

x.com

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[napanutt]

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[Q4mtxUS]

They said it dropped around 11000 feet per second, and it was only in the air for 50 seconds...no fuckin way!

The explosion reveals full fuel tanks so, maybe…

 

[Hardly Satisfied]

Pretty big explosion from a reported “ small” plane.

News is saying it carries a lot of fuel that’s maybe the cause of the fire

 

[TonyFanelli]

The explosion reveals full fuel tanks so, maybe…

 

[lbhsbz]

Odd looking video and the explosion was huge. I mean really big explosion.

Edit: Saw the second video...damn.

Was a medi vac Lear Jet it looks like....

 

[ChrisV]

Flying to Vegas tomorrow. Might drive instead…

 

[Q4mtxUS]

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Holy Fuuk….there’d be a sonic boom with that I’d reckon. Aside from the questionable speed of decent, those tanks were likely full

 

[4Waters]

They said it dropped around 11000 feet per second, and it was only in the air for 50 seconds...no fuckin way!

It has a rate of climb of around 4500 ft per min, so in 50sec of flight maybe 2k feet before going back down

 

[TonyFanelli]

Hook Fuk’n….there’d be a sonic boom with that I’d reckon. Aside from the questionable speed of decent, those tanks were likely full

It was CNN tho...that might explain alot

 

[4Waters]

They said it dropped around 11000 feet per second, and it was only in the air for 50 seconds...no fuckin way!

Where did that number come from?

 

[lbhsbz]

x.com

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[4Waters]

The explosion reveals full fuel tanks so, maybe…

News is saying it carries a lot of fuel that’s maybe the cause of the fire

If it's an air ambulance it's got a lot of pure oxygen on board as well

 

[4Waters]

Wife saw this pic on FB

 

[CLdrinker]

Flying to Vegas tomorrow. Might drive instead…

We are flying to Alabama in a few weeks wife isn’t feeling so hot about it.
Her dad crashed his plane with 2 others on board and she was supposed to be aboard.

So plane rides aren’t her thing obviously.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

If it's an air ambulance it's got a lot of pure oxygen on board as well

They are saying that someone found an oxygen tank with the company name a 1/4mi away

 

[4Waters]

It almost looks like it has afterburners

x.com

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[Racey]

Where did that number come from?

Thin air

 

[TonyFanelli]

Where did that number come from?

CNN...she said it was traveling @ 11000 fps at an altitude of around 1600 ft. Maybe she meant to say 1100 fps..IDK

 

[Q4mtxUS]

It almost looks like it has afterburners

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Holy mother of God…that’s the fastest Lear 55 I’ve ever seen…..I don’t know but, looks like missile in that video, i mean, this vid looks like 11,000 fps is possible but, the wings of a Lear 55 would’ve sheared off I’d reckon so…maybe this video was doctored…..that was fast

 

[4Waters]

CNN...she said it was traveling @ 11000 fps at an altitude of around 1600 ft. Maybe she meant to say 1100 fps..IDK
View attachment 1474724

1100ft/sec is better, that's 750mph

 

[rmarion]

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[4Waters]

Holy mother of God…that’s the fastest Lear 55 I’ve ever seen…..I don’t know but, looks like missile in that video, i mean, this vid looks like 11,000 fps is possible but, the wings of a Lear 55 would’ve sheared off I’d reckon so…maybe this video was doctored…..that was fast

That looks slower than 11000fps but faster than 1100fps, 1100fps is mach 1

 

[lbhsbz]

the wings of a Lear 55 would’ve sheared off I’d reckon so…

Maybe that's why it crashed

My house is 6000ft from the end of the runway at LGB. I see business jets departing hot every day over my house, never have I seen anything remotely close to the speed of whatever that was in the crash video.

 

[Q4mtxUS]

CNN...she said it was traveling @ 11000 fps at an altitude of around 1600 ft. Maybe she meant to say 1100 fps..IDK
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4Watters recent X video post clearly looks 11,000 fps to me….my guess at standard day ambient conditions with the speed of sound @ 1000 fps. at bonneville would be 630 mph (rough, plus/minus, blah blah) X 11 equals over 6000 mph to 7000 mph blah blah and so on…..that pretty darn fast and this vid looks, uh, confusing

 

[stephenkatsea]

Layered tragedy. An air ambulance, family trying to do what’s best for their family member, professional air med techs/Drs and the flight crew. Terrible Tragic loss. May they RIP.

 

[DILLIGAF]

4Watters recent X video post clearly looks 11,000 fps to me….my guess at standard day ambient conditions with the speed of sound @ 1000 fps. at bonneville would be 630 mph (rough, plus/minus, blah blah) X 11 equals over 6000 mph to 7000 mph blah blah and so on…..that pretty darn fast and this vid looks, uh, confusing

Yes it does

 

[SkyDirtWaterguy]

Flying is easy until it isn’t. Too many people wanna fast track their way through and it can bite you in the ass and you won’t even realize it until it’s too late. Respect it.