Parker's Closed, Again.

[DesertFam]

Getting better down here! Kids are playing so cool with me!

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That is good to see because the dam release numbers still look awful out of parker.

 

[DoughBallin14]

That is good to see because the dam release numbers still look awful out of parker.

Ya its still low and going down a touch.

 

[rivrrts429]

Ya its still low and going down a touch.

After being in Big River since 1989 I had to buy a place in Parker last year because I got tired of my boat being on the dock until noon every day waiting for the water to come up.

It appears I’ve jinxed myself and the curse has followed me

What the wind is to @throttle is what the water levels are to me

 

[DoughBallin14]

After being in Big River since 1989 I had to buy a place in Parker last year because I got tired of my boat being on the dock until noon every day waiting for the water to come up.

It appears I’ve jinxed myself and the curse has followed me

What the wind is to @throttle is what the water levels are to me

Haha ya i am going to agree with you!! I considered selling the boat this season because of all the crappy release schedules last year as well. This year was decent for holidays but off weekends suck which is when we come!

Damn solar farms!! Apparently!

 

[EarpRider]

Just drove back to Havasu from the river house via the CA side, jeez the water right now is lower then Thursdays, and its 1:30 on a Friday afternoon.

 

[lbhsbz]

Ya its still low and going down a touch.

I’m not regretting my decision to sell everything and hang up my river program for while.

We did a couple trips last year where it was like that…just hung out for a day and said fuck it and went home.

 

[ChrisV]

So no water?

 

[Riverbottom]

Water has been back to normal since this morning. Going skiing at 6;00 A.M. tomorrow. Just another screw up by CRIT. All is good.

 

[Gramps]

 

[EarpRider]

Water has been back to normal since this morning. Going skiing at 6;00 A.M. tomorrow. Just another screw up by CRIT. All is good.

It's 2024 normal but it sure isn't 2020 or older normal.

 

[Riverbottom]

It's 2024 normal but it sure isn't 2020 or older normal.

Tough call? Lived here since 1989 pretty much normal except when the Indians fall asleep at the gate. Progressive climate change freaks have been screwing with things for the last four years.

 

[EarpRider]

Same.
Easiest way to see how low the water is drive up the CA side north of the rocks and just stop and look at the where the water LINE is on the shorline rocks and where the actual water level is. It's easily 3' down, even on Fri - Sunday.

 

[Riverbottom]

Same.
Easiest way to see how low the water is drive up the CA side north of the rocks and just stop and look at the where the water LINE is on the shorline rocks and where the actual water level is. It's easily 3' down, even on Fri - Sunday.

Sadly it is just politics. It is only thirteen miles between dams. ( really just a lake ) Why they cannot keep the level constant for recreation makes no sense.

 

[77charger]

I spent quite a bit of time in Parker during June and I thought it was low often. I know thurs are usually low and mon to thurs it didn’t vary much.

Had boat there a couple days went to dam and I was sweating it the last Mile rest of time I had the jet ski no sorry there.

 

[blue wonder]

Sadly it is just politics. It is only thirteen miles between dams. ( really just a lake ) Why they cannot keep the level constant for recreation makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense, the river isn’t there for recreation, it’s there to deliver water for irrigation purposes for farmers and fulfill there water rights, the only reason the river goes up and down is due to the amount of water that is ordered for irrigation purposes, period, no orders no water, FYI I work for an irrigation district in Yuma and I order water from the bureau everyday and we make “revisions” 3 days ahead of time because that is how long it takes from Parker Dam to Imperial Dam down here where I control the water from

 

[rivrrts429]

Sadly it is just politics. It is only thirteen miles between dams. ( really just a lake ) Why they cannot keep the level constant for recreation makes no sense.

Every water molecule has a dollar value associated to it and recreation brings zero value to those same water molecules.

Sadly I wish recreation was a priority as well but there’s no value like there is in the water itself.

 

[Riverbottom]

It makes perfect sense, the river isn’t there for recreation, it’s there to deliver water for irrigation purposes for farmers and fulfill there water rights, the only reason the river goes up and down is due to the amount of water that is ordered for irrigation purposes, period, no orders no water, FYI I work for an irrigation district in Yuma and I order water from the bureau everyday and we make “revisions” 3 days ahead of time because that is how long it takes from Parker Dam to Imperial Dam down here where I control the water from

Completely understand PVID was my best customer for twenty five years. The current releases just don't make any sense. Why were we flooding the river in December and January when the irrigation districts were doing maintenance ? Cotton was being picked, and no one was planting alfalfa, but the river was almost as high as the flood of 1983. First time my dock has been under water in forty years.

 

[boatnam2]

I’m not regretting my decision to sell everything and hang up my river program for while.

We did a couple trips last year where it was like that…just hung out for a day and said fuck it and went home.

I'm kind of same boat, first year in quite a while river isn't part of my plans.

 

[oldman]

Screwing with water levels along the Parker strip seems dumb, there is a lot of money and recreation along the strip. No one draws any water off along that stretch so maintaining a decent level seems like its just an extension of the lake. Coordinate flow rates at both ends and your not wasting any water, your just storing it down on strip rather than up in the lake.

 

[blue wonder]

Completely understand PVID was my best customer for twenty five years. The current releases just don't make any sense. Why were we flooding the river in December and January when the irrigation districts were doing maintenance ? Cotton was being picked, and no one was planting alfalfa, but the river was almost as high as the flood of 1983. First time my dock has been under water in forty years.

We run water year round, there is a week and a half water outage usually in November/December is it, we did have one last week for 5 days though, also there is a big fallowing program that the government is doing, our district is down 50% of our ground, the rest is lying dormant to conserve water

 

[EarpRider]

Every water molecule has a dollar value associated to it and recreation brings zero value to those same water molecules.

Sadly I wish recreation was a priority as well but there’s no value like there is in the water itself.

The restaurants, bars,hotels, gas stations,vacation rentals in Parker would argue that those recreation water molecules have value to them.

 

[rivrrts429]

The restaurants, bars,hotels, gas stations,vacation rentals in Parker would argue that those recreation water molecules have value to them.

You aren’t wrong but the water districts would laugh at the recreational revenue in relation to their revenue lol

I drive by Lake Mathews routinely and think to myself what a waste. It’s totally closed off to any recreation. Eastern & Western Municipal Water Districts could give a shit. They’re printing money every time that water molecule makes it to our kitchen faucet or sprinklers or swamp cooler or shower or pool or sauna or to irrigate fields for our food.

Frustrates the fuck out of me but water is liquid gold in the Southwest. It’s what oil is to Texas.

 

[Bajastu]

Since the water level was down, the wife and I decided to launch the skis instead of the boat. As we’re headed up to the dam just below the Dam Hideaway , we had a couple of boats passing us and wow, the trail of dirt in the prop wash was unreal. I have no clue how they didn’t feel the bottom. We casually spoke to a few of the boats and I mentioned that they should check their props. I’m quite sure there’s a few props that were thrashed yesterday.

And it was packed. I’m sure that today will be even more of a shit show since it’s one of the last weekends before school starts.

 

[rivermobster]

Is it October yet?

 

[BoatCop]

sounds like river lodge

River Lodge is not, and has never been Indian Reservation.

I had a neighbor that called Headgate Damn, they said they were following orders from Hoover Damn. Something about water rights and this was the correct level for now. If this is true, that’s fucked up. He sent me their number if you want to call and complain. It’s just a voicemail deal.

Don't bother calling or complaining. Among the many reasons that the dams & lakes exist, and water flow is regulated on the Colorado River (water storage, irrigation, municipal drinking water, flood control, etc) recreation is dead last and the lowest priority on the list. You can call and complain, but nothing will be done.

 

[ChrisV]

Went on the water yesterday and seemed fine. Parker is closed

 

[77charger]

River Lodge is not, and has never been Indian Reservation.



Don't bother calling or complaining. Among the many reasons that the dams & lakes exist, and water flow is regulated on the Colorado River (water storage, irrigation, municipal drinking water, flood control, etc) recreation is dead last and the lowest priority on the list. You can call and complain, but nothing will be done.

Reminds me of places where people mtn biked or ride dirtbikes that was private property the whole time then one day owner decides to close it and enforce it.

Then the people think they are entitled to it since they been using it for years. We know rivers and lakes recreation is at the bottom we just get to use it. But drop the wAter and they go apeshit.

There’s more housing and water demand these days and it may get worse. We just don’t know.

 

[EarpRider]

Went on the water yesterday and seemed fine. Parker is closed

Ignorance is bliss! Whatever works.

 

[El Rojo]

How’s it looking this week?

 

[Flying_Lavey]

River Lodge is not, and has never been Indian Reservation.



Don't bother calling or complaining. Among the many reasons that the dams & lakes exist, and water flow is regulated on the Colorado River (water storage, irrigation, municipal drinking water, flood control, etc) recreation is dead last and the lowest priority on the list. You can call and complain, but nothing will be done.

Reminds me of places where people mtn biked or ride dirtbikes that was private property the whole time then one day owner decides to close it and enforce it.

Then the people think they are entitled to it since they been using it for years. We know rivers and lakes recreation is at the bottom we just get to use it. But drop the wAter and they go apeshit.

There’s more housing and water demand these days and it may get worse. We just don’t know.

Not entirely true. At least not everywhere. The court case going on with the water management at lake Nacimiento has been decided that there is no order of importance of the use of the lake and its waters since that was not stipulated in the dam building or operating permits.

 

[lbhsbz]

Not entirely true. At least not everywhere. The court case going on with the water management at lake Nacimiento has been decided that there is no order of importance of the use of the lake and its waters since that was not stipulated in the dam building or operating permits.

Naci is not part of the colorado river system, which is what Boat Cop was speaking to.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Naci is not part of the colorado river system, which is what Boat Cop was speaking to.

That is why I said in my first couple of sentences that is wasn't true everywhere.

 

[cofooter]

If the reason given was "water rights" wonder if it has anything to do with last years agreement for CA, AZ and NV to use less water and store more in Lake Mead. That would lead to lower river flows, at least intermittently, one would think....... When this was announced, the Indians told the residents of Bluewater Lagoon to expect lower flows for at least the next three years........ Sucks for river users, but as others have pointed out, that is not their priority........

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-states-reach-colorado-river-water-conservation-deal-interior-dept-2023-05-22/

 

[crzy2bealive]

Yah water was low low Friday and Saturday up by willow valley.

 

[crzy2bealive]

Looks like it’s low again today and tomorrow from the Davis Dam

 

[1manshow]

We run water year round, there is a week and a half water outage usually in November/December is it, we did have one last week for 5 days though, also there is a big fallowing program that the government is doing, our district is down 50% of our ground, the rest is lying dormant to conserve water

Just curious how many acres is in your district total? Only reason I ask is the gov is trying to do something similar in our districts up in central cal except they don’t want to pay us to fallow.

 

[blue wonder]

I think the actual district I work for is around 25000 acres although only about 15,500 acres are irrigatable and we are @ 50% of that right now because of the fallowing program, the job I do I actually distribute water to 5 different districts which covers a little under 100,000 acres, there are 2 other districts in our area that get their water out of the Imperial Dam as well for a total of about 175,000 acres plus the All-American canal comes out of the dam as well that sends water to the Imperial Valley which is somewhere around 500,000 acres…I can run 2200cfs down my system and the All-American can run 15,155cfs plus an additional 31,000-42,500cfs down the sluiceway…so yeah a shit load of water!!!

 

[1manshow]

I think the actual district I work for is around 25000 acres although only about 15,500 acres are irrigatable and we are @ 50% of that right now because of the fallowing program, the job I do I actually distribute water to 5 different districts which covers a little under 100,000 acres, there are 2 other districts in our area that get their water out of the Imperial Dam as well for a total of about 175,000 acres plus the All-American canal comes out of the dam as well that sends water to the Imperial Valley which is somewhere around 500,000 acres…I can run 2200cfs down my system and the All-American can run 15,155cfs plus an additional 31,000-42,500cfs down the sluiceway…so yeah a shit load of water!!!

Thanks for the reply…. That interesting info!
I was told from the guys we buy our alfalfa from that they were cutting the water off the alfalfa fields because they could make more on the fallow program then if they were to grow alfalfa..

 

[1manshow]

FYI...200 liters a second is about 4.5 million gallons a day. Meanwhile, California just passed permanent water restrictions on July 6, when the Water Board approved "Making Conservation a Way of Life." The policy will ratchet down indoor water use to an eventual 42 gallons per person per day to achieve "resilience to drought". Managing water scarcity, rather than creating water abundance, is what's on tap. It doesn't have to be like this.

California to send 200 litres of water per second to Mexico amid shortage

Thanks to bilateral agreement between the U.S. and Mexico, emergency supply has been possible for more than 50 years now.

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