Our Offroad Heaven family compound & Tiny home builds

[franky]

What do you do about sewage?

RD

Such priorities.....

 

[Luvnlife]

Same here. $2350 for best quality and $1150 delivery to Parker. They have 3 grades of quality located in Wilmington. Was going to drop by and compare the A B C quality difference.

Try shipping.com for a container they have a place in Phoenix. Might be a cheaper delivery price.

 

[RiverDave]

Window Rock area behind the Seventh Sister

Not familiar with where that is..

 

[franky]

Not familiar with where that is..

If you look back at the city from the lake you can see that the city is surrounded on the east by seven mtns/hills. These are the seven sisters, numbered from north to south. My property (24acres) is behind the seventh sister.

 

[Gelcoater]

This thread is on my top 5 favorite threads of all time on RDP.
Excellent job !!

 

[coolchange]

What do you do about sewage?

RD

Same thing you do with it in a big metal box.

 

[pwerwagn]

Still one of the best threads ever on RDP. I just read it beginning to end, for like the 5th time.

 

[wzuber]

Same thing you do with it in a big metal box.

Shitter n a box above ground means a shallow trench @ 1'-2' deep. Shitter n the bottom of a schooner 6' deep n the ground means a 7' + deep trench. Significant diff.

 

[coolchange]

Shitter n a box above ground means a shallow trench @ 1'-2' deep. Shitter n the bottom of a schooner 6' deep n the ground means a 7' + deep trench. Significant diff.

True. But if you think back a little bit, you just buried a yacht. Adding a septic tank would be a minor addition.
Truthfully I'd probably have an outhouse at the surface.
Yachts have macerator and could be pumped up.

 

[TITTIES AND BEER]

How did you do windows and doors ?

 

[wash11]

How the fuck have I not seen this thread before????? This is SOOOOOOOOOO bitchin!

 

[BajaMike]

Show us recent pics?

 

[wzuber]

In general it can be accomplished in many ways. Depending on interior type finish such as firing and drywall etc. (final wall thickness) you could use c-channel, angle iron or even solid flat bar welded to the opening in the container wall. Then either screw the windows directly to that or fir the openings with 2"x3"/4" etc. and then screw the doors/windows to that and trim out as you like. You could also weld in light gauge (16/14/12 ga.) rect. tubing and screw, seal and finish to that. Typically what I've seen is the larger openings such as doors are framed with angle or channel for rigidity and water flashing control at opening and then windows with same in smaller dimension or tubing.

 

[Singleton]

Show us recent pics?

He usually updates the compound around this time of year.
@Deckin Around was the designer of my ToyHauler - it fits his design attitude. Overbuilt for all conditions

 

[Deckin Around]

A little progress since February but mostly spending time riding with the family. I left all the plumbing exposed up in the ceiling and down the walls to test everything for 1 summer and winter season with the temperature fluctuations and it all passed fine so it's time to start covering the walls

I did a TON of research on wall and insulation board materials. Moisture (sweating) when it's 60 inside and 30 degrees outside is a real issue, the walls will be like the outside of a glass of ice water. I went with the first layer of this system made specifically for the walls of containers with pre-cut inserts to fill the wall corrugations. I only did the wall inserts not 2nd layer of solid foam so it's only insulating 60% ish of the walls which has worked fine after testing. The ceilings are all getting R-19 Confort-Therm pre-wrapped insulation.

InSoFast Continuous Insulation Kits

Build the perfect shipping container insulation kit. Our easy to install, studded moisture resistant, continuous insulation panels match corrugations.

www.insofast.com

The double layer PVC wall siding is this awesome stuff: https://www.duramaxpvcpanels.com/wall-celling-panels/
I put up a test section using just Sikaflex adhesive direct to the container wall and no screws and it held fine last winter and all summer. I still have been using a few pan head screws on each piece just for extra support.


Key Advantages and Benefits of the PVC

• Ideal replacement for conventional wall systems
• Cost effective compared to other materials
• Won’t support bacterial growth
• Won’t corrode and is resistant to most chemicals
• Inner truss design for rigidity and strength
• Lightweight, easy to transport
• High strength to weight ratio
• Supports attic insulation loads
• Bright clean appearance
• Virtually maintenance free – just wipe it clean
• Highly resistant to moisture and mold
• Class A Fire Rating – potential insurance savings
• Quick and easy to install
• Hidden fasteners provide smooth finish
• Pre-punched nailing flange

Kitchen got granite countertops, appliances etc. I run 100% on solar unless I am using power tools for extended periods. The fridge, lights, cameras, wi-fi all stay on when we are not there. Bought some williams wall furnaces used and had a 500gal propane tank dropped. We have no issue keeping the container at 65+ when it's in the 30's at night and that is without the wall boards complete. I still need to put on a lot of the wall panel trim pieces around windows and doors.

 

[jesco]

Nice work, place looks awesome.

 

[RichL]

Nice work, place looks awesome.

Absolutely agree. Done a killer job. Thumbs up Sir.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Such a bad ass thread!! Love it when it is on top each time.

 

[TITTIES AND BEER]

Please get me up close how you did/ water proof your windows/ doors

 

[franky]

I was going to drive by there and check them out in person.
View attachment 850569

Did you ever go check these out?

 

[NicPaus]

Did you ever go check these out?

No. But ready to buy 1. Going to get ok this weekend from the manager to drop 1 at Echo.

 

[Bpracing1127]

All of that inside a shipping container! Holy crap

 

[Deckin Around]

How the fuck have I not seen this thread before????? This is SOOOOOOOOOO bitchin!

LOL, That's quite a compliment from you. It's like a Hallett telling a Bayliner it's got great finish work. You have my dream set-up.

Please get me up close how you did/ water proof your windows/ doors

Are you familiar with retrofit windows by any chance? Instead of using a new construction style window that has a nailing flange which is nailed into the framing and waterproofed with your exterior siding, you cut out the old windows and the retrofit ones do not have a nailing flange and just slide into the existing window frames. The windows are screwed from the inside top and bottom sides into the old frames and expanding foam and sealant is used. Same idea I just made steel frames and slid the windows in and used Sikaflex $ around the windows inside and out
It's 2"x3" .090 wall thickness rectangle steel tube for the windows and 2x4" & 2"x5" .120 wall for the doors and sliders. I cut and welded all the frames at home and then took them out there to be welded into the containers when we cut out holes. To do over I would use 1X3" or 1x4" .090 or even .061 wall thickness tube. The 2x4 and 2x5 was only available in the .120 wall stuff which was thick, heavy and a pain to pre-drill all the screws through
You can still see the gaps of light across the top of this window before they were sealed

Deckin Around, how are you charging the batteries? I didn't see a solar controller....

There wasn't panels or a solar controller at that time. There are both now we put a few panels over the "utility sheds." Eventually I will fabricate a panel rack for the top of the second-story container. I have an older generator from a toy-hauler wired in as a backup that we ran at night when we were running electric heaters.

I’ll come out next year for the weekend.. I promise. Maybe I can get out there before it gets too hot.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

What a great thread, thanks for sharing.

 

[Icky]

I did a TON of research on wall and insulation board materials. Moisture (sweating) when it's 60 inside and 30 degrees outside is a real issue, the walls will be like the outside of a glass of ice water. I went with the first layer of this system made specifically for the walls of containers with pre-cut inserts to fill the wall corrugations. I only did the wall inserts not 2nd layer of solid foam so it's only insulating 60% ish of the walls which has worked fine after testing. The ceilings are all getting R-19 Confort-Therm pre-wrapped insulation.

InSoFast Continuous Insulation Kits

Build the perfect shipping container insulation kit. Our easy to install, studded moisture resistant, continuous insulation panels match corrugations.

www.insofast.com

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The double layer PVC wall siding is this awesome stuff: https://www.duramaxpvcpanels.com/wall-celling-panels/
I put up a test section using just Sikaflex adhesive direct to the container wall and no screws and it held fine last winter and all summer. I still have been using a few pan head screws on each piece just for extra support.


Key Advantages and Benefits of the PVC

• Ideal replacement for conventional wall systems
• Cost effective compared to other materials
• Won’t support bacterial growth
• Won’t corrode and is resistant to most chemicals
• Inner truss design for rigidity and strength
• Lightweight, easy to transport
• High strength to weight ratio
• Supports attic insulation loads
• Bright clean appearance
• Virtually maintenance free – just wipe it clean
• Highly resistant to moisture and mold
• Class A Fire Rating – potential insurance savings
• Quick and easy to install
• Hidden fasteners provide smooth finish
• Pre-punched nailing flange

When I was looking for a wood alternative to my patio ceiling I came across these. Decided against it as the panels were too wide. Now that I see it in your photos, im contemplating them again

 

[Havasu Surfer]

a little bit about the neighborhood: You can say we know the community very well.
I've been riding around Johnson valley since I was a baby, my parents and my Aunt have owned a 5 acre property we call "the cabin" in Johnson Valley since the late 70's but closer to the main road. My grandparents addded a mobile home in the late 80's.
I don't have many pics of my parents place. It is about 3 miles away from my property. This is where we got a lot of the ideas on how to layout our property.
Me and the wife there 15 years ago

This is the cabin looking off the container top deck looking down toward the dry lake (KOH hammertown) and my property. you can see how populated the neighborhood is there.

I had my bachelor party there at the cabin in May '08

We know all the neighbors and they know us. (there is even a secret facebook page). There are probably about 40 different family plots in a 4-5 mile area that are almost all weekends only. One neighbor started a community poker run for Thanksgiving weekend where everyone helps out that has grown to over 400 people this year. We have the Tommy Burger catering truck come to the last cardstop and party place (someone desert house in the neighborhood.) I ran it for 2 years- it's a big job. My family has also run Cardstops for the poker run- Always a great time with the neighbors
This was 2014

We will be out for the Poker Run at our friends plot NDR; Nappi Desert Ranch, across from Walter& Dollie with the trees. My lot is on same road (Milne) across from Charlie. Both plots are 1 north of Bodick. Would like to see your plot and ask you a few questions about water rights and getting electrical connection. Hope to be out for KOH.


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[Deckin Around]

We will be out for the Poker Run at our friends plot NDR; Nappi Desert Ranch, across from Walter& Dollie with the trees. My lot is on same road (Milne) across from Charlie. Both plots are 1 north of Bodick. Would like to see your plot and ask you a few questions about water rights and getting electrical connection. Hope to be out for KOH.


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I know the Nappis pretty well. My parents place is NW a few hundred yards away on the same side of the street. Basically the opposite direction of Walter. It’s the property with the mobile home and cabin with the view deck on top of the containers right next to the pink cabin. Mark’s Cabinet company is one of my main millwork subcontractors for my commercial construction work and Victor Nappi built my last custom race trailer at Santek Trailers. You are welcome to come over anytime

 

[LBsuperJET]

How the fuck have I not seen this thread before????? This is SOOOOOOOOOO bitchin!

Me too! Just found it! Killer motivation. Ive wanted to do this with a group of friends for a while now.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Please get me up close how you did/ water proof your windows/ doors

As the poster noted you can use a “block frame” (no nail-fin). Create a flat buck that you install the window into. You can create a frame that you weld into the can and then install the window into that. If you don’t have the means to weld you can devise a method to use wood. If you still do not have clarity let m know and I can have detailed drawings created for the application. It is really not too difficult. PM me if you need more direction.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Welding a tube frame would be easiest for water proofing but if you can’t...Here is a quick ”hack” if you are going the wood route. You have to set up the opening up right to create the water tight Opening. The red is wood that you set to the interior face to the inset of the ribs. The blue are the fasteners and the green is a sill pan or flashing. If you PM me with specific information on the ribs of the container I can have a drawing created.

To fill the gaps created by the ribs you could have someone with a CNC router cut trim to fit. Keep in mind that the ribs will not be consistent. I did this on reversed rolled rooffing I used as wainscotIng In our basement. You could even do it with a template yourself with a jig saw.

 

[BajaMike]

Wow....very cool!

 

[TITTIES AND BEER]

Has anyone ever tried to break in ?

 

[wzuber]

Welding a tube frame would be easiest for water proofing but if you can’t...Here is a quick ”hack” if you are going the wood route. You have to set up the opening up right to create the water tight Opening. The red is wood that you set to the interior face to the inset of the ribs. The blue are the fasteners and the green is a sill pan or flashing. If you PM me with specific information on the ribs of the container I can have a drawing created.

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To fill the gaps created by the ribs you could have someone with a CNC router cut trim to fit. Keep in mind that the ribs will not be consistent. I did this on reversed rolled rooffing I used as wainscotIng In our basement. You could even do it with a template yourself with a jig saw.


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sweet looking wainscoting system HNL. It's always nice to see a common material used in an uncommon manner, even more so when the application is executed so clean and professionally. That's a beautiful looking space. You should try doing this for a living, you'd prolly do ok. LOL

A suggestion for those looking to do this (or any other templating for that matter) for themselves at home, using 3/16" thick hardboard/masonite is a cheap and easy way to template things. It cuts/shapes really easily and stays rigid so you can use it multiple times for years if you want to. I use it regularly for eng. mount plates, transom plates, brackets etc. as well as glass patterns for custom doors, panels etc. Just keep it dry from moisture as long as poss.

 

[pavski2]

We drove by yesterday afternoon, the place looks great! would love to get a tour sometime.

 

[Deckin Around]

@BIGRED9158 Here it is as requested, I had to do some digging
@RiverDave Please see post #74 All talk buddy.

Reading this is funny how the prices of property, labor, materials etc has changed so much in 4-5 years.

We really have not done much to progress after our place was finished to the point of being livable 2 years ago. I got sidetracked and remodeled our riverhouse in Parker.


We have had a few pool parties

I also put in a fence around the front porch to lock up the dogs- not fully painted in pic

Rockin KOH as usual. Penneywise last year... those guys are old now lol

We got a futon sofa for the container, ...and a dog

Built some epic fires

My brother in law. When you get 80 free fresh Christmas trees

The kids have some cool bunkers with a tunnel connecting underground (36" culvert drain pipe we buried) Hard to tell the black tube is and the bungers are 5-6 feet deep

I started up on the guest container and I am doing this one a little different. I am framing the inside with 1-1/2" metal studs and hanging mold resistant drywall instead of PVC wall panels. We also got mini-split AC & Heat units for the houses

 

[wash11]

So happy to see this thread back!

 

[Boat211]

So happy to see this thread back!

I agree!!!!!

 

[Badchoices03]

I just read this whole thread, I am wondering how I ever missed it in the past, I have always looked @Deckin Around pictures and see him talk about his property, but had never seen this thread or really understood everything his property actually is....and it FKN AWESOME!!...I wish I had even half the skills you have or even half the friends you have to help....epic compound!

 

[Meaney77]

Great thread to re read again!

 

[BIGRED9158]

@Deckin Around if you don’t mind would you mind sharing how much cash you have tied up in a project like this with all the work you have done to the property if you would rather dm that’s fine I am just curious what it cost do something like this

 

[Deckin Around]

@Deckin Around if you don’t mind would you mind sharing how much cash you have tied up in a project like this with all the work you have done to the property if you would rather dm that’s fine I am just curious what it cost do something like this

I’ll tell you by the campfire in a few weeks.

People constantly ask what average land prices are in Johnson valley. The increase has been crazy but just because of supply and demand I think the Covid prices will hold.
Early last year 20 acres sold for 75,000 along with another 20 acre lot across the street went for about the same price at a tax auction. ($3750/acre)
20 connected to me just sold last year for 150k ($7500/acre)
40 at the end of the block for $295k ($7,375/acre).
All bare sand with no improvements or utilities.
Right now, if you want… for the low price of over $13,000/acre, you can be my neighbor with the same size parcel.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

Deckin Around;

My wife and I have wanted to see KOH at least once. This year simply isn't going to happen but I would sure like to get on your maybe list for camping next year, if that is possible. I will know by September whether this is going to happen or not. It would just be the wife and I at this point. 35 ft toyhauler and truck, and a Turbo S.
I will reach out when the time gets close.
Your place is awesome. It gives me some ideas for a "hideout" of our own.

 

[Deckin Around]

Deckin Around;

My wife and I have wanted to see KOH at least once. This year simply isn't going to happen but I would sure like to get on your maybe list for camping

Yes Sir! Your Christmas story earned you an anytime pass for sure. Much respect.

This year @Singleton who is a repeat KOH guest of ours asked if we had any room for a non-profit “Racing for Vetrans” team to camp. Initially the answer was no, we just didn’t have enough open space.
I wanted to help so I talked to @yz450mm Marcus and we came up with a plan to clear a 3rd camping area on the property. Marcus took a day to come out with his equipment and do a lot of rough grading as I did laps towing a steel I-beam to clear smaller brush and smooth things out.

It was raining last Saturday night so I spent hours between late Saturday and Sunday morning just driving laps over all the new grading to help compact it.
Yesterday I had a Labor guy who spent 10 hours raking the new camping areas by hand to get all the sticks and any rocks out.
Those are all piles of sticks that went to the fire pit

It’s still soft but it looks like it will work well for another 8-10 rigs

 

[Deckin Around]

We also cleared 3 new helicopter landing spots for HP helicopters and race teams this year. We are expecting 3-4. They have been awesome KOH guests and I’ve decided helicopters have the best suspension to get over the desert bumps fast

 

[Badchoices03]

Man I would never get my 12yo off that track

 

[DUNEFLYER]

Brad‘s helo?

 

[Flyinbowtie]

Thanks for the invite, DA.
We have a lot going on right now, if we didn't I'd load up and we would head south right now, we may sneak out after 3-1 I dunno.

 

[Deckin Around]

Man I would never get my 12yo off that track

We have found that they run out of gas
eventually.

Brad‘s helo?

All those pictured are his. That’s one of his pilot/mechanics in the flight suit.

Small world @RiverDave and Brad were river buddies as kids in Parker.

 

[whiteworks]

@Deckin Around is a bad influence

Such an amazing place he’s put together, the amount of time, money, and effort that goes into doing something like this is no joke.