Opinions wanted

[Danzkawi]

I am new to this forum and my wife and I are looking to buy our first boat.

trying to stay around or under 5000. we do have a couple of dirt bikes we could trade or sale.

A great friend of ours has given us some advice.
(so Rivermobster STFU )

We would like to hear more....

Open Bow Pros and Cons
closed bow Pros and Cons
Jet vs not

Also if you have or know of a boat that would be good for beginners post it please.

Thanks,
Dan

 

[Ziggy]

All those questions can be answered better if we know where you want to boat, if you have kids to bring along and if speed is more or less important

 

[sergeantmike]

Also, your boating experiences... have you ridden in boats you really liked? Disliked?:thumbsup:thumbsdown

Show up here in Havasu or Parker or wherever and ride in a bunch of different boat types if you do not have alot of time on the water:thumbsup

 

[Vmjtc3]

I would just listen to rivermobster, he obviously knows you better than anyone else here and is very knowledgeable about boats. :thumbsup

 

[Danzkawi]

I guess so,

Kids are grown, would like to be able to take 3 to 4 people with us

speed isnt a huge factor would like to pull tubes, skiers.

parker area and havasu, local lakes, maybe mission bay (not critical)

thanks

 

[Ragged Edge]

Welcome to boating, it is a great sport with a lot of great people.

My personal choice for a first boat would be an outboard, reasons-ease of use, ease of maintence and more space in the boat. Drawbacks would be it will not ride as nice as an IO (but better than a jet boat) and many lakes and waterways have banned or are planning to ban all 2 strokes so you would need to go 4 stroke so there goes the ease of maintence and it will cost more.

As a newby I would stay away from a jet unless you have someone with experience driving a jet boat who can teach you. They can be a bit tricky in emergency situations and they also do not ride near as good as a comparable IO or Outboard.

An IO would be a good all around boat, the engine taking up space in the boat and dealing with oil changes and other maintence are the only negatives I can think of. Can't think of any negatives about a bow rider, they provide more space inside the boat and make getting on and off the boat easier.

I am sure that I have missed a number of things and not all will agree with me, this is just my opinion.

John

 

[Yarder]

Welcome Dan!

 

[460]

I would just listen to rivermobster, he obviously knows you better than anyone else here and is very knowledgeable about boats. :thumbsup

that son of a bitch owns a poontoon. No one in there right mid knows about boats and drives on of those


Welcome to the site. Get what ever boat your comfortable in. Jet, whacker, poontoon, i/o, vdrive whatever. Just make sure its something that fits you and your family.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

I think if you can get your budget closer to 7 to 10K, you'll end up with alot better choice for a first boat. Especially considering the places you plan on boating.

I know this boat was sold and was older, but bad ass and done for the price......... http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48052

Just an example...

 

[hallett21]

http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49765

 

[Furniture 4 Me]

Open bow PRO

 

[hallett21]

http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33087

 

[hallett21]

http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48639&page=2

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49765

Clean choice also......... Like I said though, he need to get closer to 7K. Not sure if this would be a good choice as well for a first time boater since it is a v-drive. With a budget of 5K, he's looking at probably an 18' jet, unless it's older or he wants a production boat (Baylinerish).

 

[hallett21]

Clean choice also......... Like I said though, he need to get closer to 7K. Not sure if this would be a good choice as well for a first time boater since it is a v-drive. With a budget of 5K, he's looking at probably an 18' jet, unless it's older or he wants a production boat (Baylinerish).

I didn't know if jets were a go or not lol

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

I didn't know if jets were a go or not lol

Lol.... Don't hate on jets man, I dig mine.

 

[hallett21]

Lol.... Don't hate on jets man, I dig mine.

I hate nothing (mostly nothing lol) lol. to prove it

http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24411

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

I hate nothing (mostly nothing lol) lol. to prove it

http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24411

That's a good one. That hull would do good in the chop where he wants to boat. Only downfall (personal opinion) on this boat would be the Jacuzzi pump.....but it at least it has a Place Diverter.

 

[hallett21]

That's a good one. That hull would do good in the chop where he wants to boat. Only downfall (personal opinion) on this boat would be the Jacuzzi pump.....but it at least it has a Place Diverter.

I know nothing about jets lol. Is jacuzzi a bad company???


Maybe you could find an outboard for 3-5k?
http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34801

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

I know nothing about jets lol. Is jacuzzi a bad company???


Maybe you could find an outboard for 3-5k?
http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34801

Jacuzzi is just old skool technology. Just not the top choice in jet pumps. But nonetheless, will get the job done for the basics. Shit, most would say the same about Panther jets, and I have one of those.

 

[rivermobster]

that son of a bitch owns a poontoon. No one in there right mid knows about boats and drives on of those


Welcome to the site. Get what ever boat your comfortable in. Jet, whacker, poontoon, i/o, vdrive whatever. Just make sure its something that fits you and your family.

:bang:

 

[rivermobster]

Welcome to boating, it is a great sport with a lot of great people.

My personal choice for a first boat would be an outboard, reasons-ease of use, ease of maintence and more space in the boat. Drawbacks would be it will not ride as nice as an IO (but better than a jet boat) and many lakes and waterways have banned or are planning to ban all 2 strokes so you would need to go 4 stroke so there goes the ease of maintence and it will cost more.

As a newby I would stay away from a jet unless you have someone with experience driving a jet boat who can teach you. They can be a bit tricky in emergency situations and they also do not ride near as good as a comparable IO or Outboard.

An IO would be a good all around boat, the engine taking up space in the boat and dealing with oil changes and other maintence are the only negatives I can think of. Can't think of any negatives about a bow rider, they provide more space inside the boat and make getting on and off the boat easier.

I am sure that I have missed a number of things and not all will agree with me, this is just my opinion.

John

Good info right here! :thumbsup

 

[rivermobster]

I would just listen to rivermobster, he obviously knows you better than anyone else here and is very knowledgeable about boats. :thumbsup

Thanks for that!

fuck 460 :box:

 

[rivergames]

I would get a v-drive :thumbsup

 

[shintoooo]

DCB

 

[460]

Just make sure you keep it clean. And if you dont, please dont get when someone tells you about it:skull

 

[rivermobster]

I would get a v-drive :thumbsup

DCB

F'n comiedians!

Just make sure you keep it clean. And if you dont, please dont get when someone tells you about it:skull

:headscratch:

 

[pronstar]

I paid $4K for my first boat, got it at the end of last summer.
It's a 21-foot Tahiti, 260-hp Volvo-Penta I/O.
Small block - fuel sipper :thumbsup

I couldn't afford more at the time, but I'm glad I went this route.
It was a dirty POS, but a little elbow grease and now...it looks like a clean POS

I'll make my stupid rookie mistakes with this boat.
Absolute worst case scenario, I take a loss on the boat and I'm out $4K. Which is about half the cost of a propeller on some of the nicer boats out there

As long as the boat floats and runs, I should be able to sell it for about what I paid for it.

 

[Classic Daycruiser]

My suggestion.

Look at bayliner boats in the 19-21 foot range with a v-6. They are in your price range, and make great boats for a new to boating family. Have fun for a couple of years exploring, skiing, campng, damaging, and then sell it, hoping you'll get most of your money back (minus expenses and repairs). http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/boa/2427514103.html

If you still like boating, you'll know what you want, and what you can afford. Make your second boat count.

 

[Vmjtc3]

Thanks for that!

fuck 460 :box:

 

[rivermobster]

My suggestion.

Look at bayliner boats in the 19-21 foot range with a v-6. They are in your price range, and make great boats for a new to boating family. Have fun for a couple of years exploring, skiing, campng, damaging, and then sell it, hoping you'll get most of your money back (minus expenses and repairs). http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/boa/2427514103.html

If you still like boating, you'll know what you want, and what you can afford. Make your second boat count.

Thats a great suggestion too. Dan lives in Oceanside, and could drop a Bayliner in the big blue as well.

Isnt Lake Martinez a lot closer to SD??

 

[rivermobster]

I am new to this forum and my wife and I are looking to buy our first boat.

trying to stay around or under 5000. we do have a couple of dirt bikes we could trade or sale.

A great friend of ours has given us some advice.
(so Rivermobster STFU )

We would like to hear more....

Open Bow Pros and Cons
closed bow Pros and Cons
Jet vs not

Also if you have or know of a boat that would be good for beginners post it please.

Thanks,
Dan

TTT for the morning crew...

arty2:

 

[OCMerrill]

Just make sure you keep it clean. And if you dont, please dont get when someone tells you about it:skull

I also suggest to use care in choosing the colors of your accessories.

 

[scottietwohoty]

And DO NOT tow with the cover on!! or by the 210, or wrapped...and I'm sure I'm forgetting something else.
To be perfectly honest get the best boat that your budget can afford and what works best for YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!! I found mine for a great price used it as is for the first season then had the interior redone and I LOVE MY BOAT!! Works very well for me and my family and that's what counts. :thumbsup

 

[rivermobster]

personally, I think laveynick's boat would be a good place to start. not sure about it havin a 115 though. will this pull a skier up ok?

http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50443

 

[460]

I also suggest to use care in choosing the colors of your accessories.

Comming from the guy who bought a boat that has pink in the sceme. Come on

 

[OCMerrill]

Comming from the guy who bought a boat that has pink in the sceme. Come on

Mangenta not pink. My steering wheel is blue.

 

[460]

Mangenta not pink. My steering wheel is blue.

And mine is red. Dick

 

[OCMerrill]

And mine is red. Dick

OK, sure. Whatever you say.

 

[Sandemon]

Open bow - more room and the ability to shift weight to the front of the boat.
Closed bow - looks cooler and the ability to stay behind the windshield if its cold.

Deep V will ride smother, Cat. or Trihull will be more stable but can be harder to load on a trailer.

I would stay with a prop to start with as a jet has to be pushing water to steer. Outboard or in/out will work as a rudder.

Get a cheap boat to learn on and go out and have fun, anyone who doesn't want to play with you because you don't have a fancy boat you dont need around.

 

[Danzkawi]

So much great advice thanks to all. going on a test ride sunday

 

[HeyouintheBald]

My first boat is an open bow, works great for taking people and kids with us...
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[rivermobster]

Hey so...

Dan found a boat in Carslbad. Are there any reputable shops there that can inspect it for him, and not charge and arm and a leg??

Thanks in advance for the help!

 

[troostr]

My .02 and maybe a little late. I have always had jets- my parents had I/O, jet and Hydro(not for the family!) After my recent equipment failure (BNAG) My family and I who love our Advantage 21 SRBR JET (yeah I know a little big for a jet- shut-up) The open bow is nice, the boat is deep enough inside that my kids don't slip over or anything stupid. Now we are using my friends 23 Chapparal- I have to say "wow'' a little old guy feeling but awsome for the fam, fuel sipper, TONS of storage for kid fodder, and a place for everything! plus the I/o is big blue friendly.

 

[rivermobster]

Hey so...

Dan found a boat in Carslbad. Are there any reputable shops there that can inspect it for him, and not charge and arm and a leg??

Thanks in advance for the help!

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Maybe that's why you've had no replies cuz no one knows where Carslbad is.

 

[rivermobster]

Maybe that's why you've had no replies cuz no one knows where Carslbad is.

Oh shit....I told you guys techs cant spell!!!

oint


Carlsbad, CA.

 

[RiverDave]

Yes.. Wot marine is in my building! (in carlsbad) Kyle and Jim will treat u right.

RD

 

[W.O.T MARINE]

Hey so...

Dan found a boat in Carslbad. Are there any reputable shops there that can inspect it for him, and not charge and arm and a leg??

Thanks in advance for the help!

We can help you out! We are Here in Carlsbad just across the street from Palomar air port. Is the boat an inboard, outboard, I/O?? We would be happy to take a look and Help a new boater out.

Kyle @W.O.T. Marine
760-804-2766

 

[RaceTec]

Dan I am sure I am not the only one curious, when you get it checked out and make the deal let us know what ya got!