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Browns gas works as described, somewhat. It will power the car and is "emission" free, the problem is the conversion efficiency is down around 25% due to the energy required to split the water molecule. At present it's simple brute force hydrolysis, supposedly there is a magical resonant frequency that "jiggles" it apart but nobody has been successful in finding it, or has lived long enough to properly demonstrate it.

It's emission free as long as the water is pure, otherwise whatever else was present is rejected into the atmosphere. In the case of salt water being used chlorine gas is released.
 

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Browns gas works as described, somewhat. It will power the car and is "emission" free, the problem is the conversion efficiency is down around 25% due to the energy required to split the water molecule. At present it's simple brute force hydrolysis, supposedly there is a magical resonant frequency that "jiggles" it apart but nobody has been successful in finding it, or has lived long enough to properly demonstrate it.

It's emission free as long as the water is pure, otherwise whatever else was present is rejected into the atmosphere. In the case of salt water being used chlorine gas is released.

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since the American people are fronting this company (money laundering)

IMO they could design an H2O car with 1% of Nasas budget...

government is NOT TRYING TO SAVE the environment... only trying to generate more taxes from the public, while they PUBLIC feel they are helping the environment..
 
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Browns gas works as described, somewhat. It will power the car and is "emission" free, the problem is the conversion efficiency is down around 25% due to the energy required to split the water molecule. At present it's simple brute force hydrolysis, supposedly there is a magical resonant frequency that "jiggles" it apart but nobody has been successful in finding it, or has lived long enough to properly demonstrate it.

It's emission free as long as the water is pure, otherwise whatever else was present is rejected into the atmosphere. In the case of salt water being used chlorine gas is released.
Since you would know, and been meaning to find out for myself, is it higher voltage or amperage needed to break the molecular bond? Only times I've ever done it was in a "less than scientific" manor.
 

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Since you would know, and been meaning to find out for myself, is it higher voltage or amperage needed to break the molecular bond? Only times I've ever done it was in a "less than scientific" manor.
My $.02 worth --- Amps baby, lots of amps --- approx. 3,600 amp/hours (Approx 4.5KWH) @ a measly 1.23vdc is all that's required to break the molecular bond and free the hydrogen and oxygen molecules and produce about 1 cubic meter of hydrogen gas.
This does of course depend on the type of electrolyzer being used.
 

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Since you would know, and been meaning to find out for myself, is it higher voltage or amperage needed to break the molecular bond? Only times I've ever done it was in a "less than scientific" manner.
Yes is the simple answer. The water also needs an electrolyte (we used Potassium Hydroxide I believe) to enable current flow. I'll dig out the setup we were playing with, take a couple of pics, and post up a more complete answer. I fabricated up a multi-cell arrangement (stainless plates and an acrylic enclosure) and believe we were playing with it around 30Vdc and a few amps.
 

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Here was our Rube Goldberg arrangement. The main chamber had 20 316L stainless plates, the outer two electrodes were where the voltage was applied. The inner plates were all floating electrically, separated by neoprene O-rings around 10" diameter, 3/16" thick. Water and the added electrolyte were circulated by a small hydroponics pump. Two clear filter canisters were used to separate the gas from the liquid, also used an oversized aquarium "bubbler" stone inside one of the filter canisters to break up the gas bubbles into little ones. Haven't played with this in years, maybe this weekend we'll blow the dust off and light it off again. We powered it with a small lab type variable power supply, 0-30Vdc at up to 5A. I don't recall the actual DC numbers we were running at.

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Lighting off Brown's gas in a cleaner's bag was quite impressive. It's a perfect stoichiometric ratio, mixed well, and ignites with a giant bluish-white flash instantly with an incredible report. No tell-tale residue left behind. :)
 

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Here was our Rube Goldberg arrangement. The main chamber had 20 316L stainless plates, the outer two electrodes were where the voltage was applied. The inner plates were all floating electrically, separated by neoprene O-rings around 10" diameter, 3/16" thick. Water and the added electrolyte were circulated by a small hydroponics pump. Two clear filter canisters were used to separate the gas from the liquid, also used an oversized aquarium "bubbler" stone inside one of the filter canisters to break up the gas bubbles into little ones. Haven't played with this in years, maybe this weekend we'll blow the dust off and light it off again. We powered it with a small lab type variable power supply, 0-30Vdc at up to 5A. I don't recall the actual DC numbers we were running at.

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Lighting off Brown's gas in a cleaner's bag was quite impressive. It's a perfect stoichiometric ratio, mixed well, and ignites with a giant bluish-white flash instantly with an incredible report. No tell-tale residue left behind. :)
With the opposing sides receiving the charge, what was the advantage of the insulated plates in between? Were they to disperse the current more equally in the volume of liquid? That's a pretty low electrical input...but that's a much better design. We had used a transformer scavenged from something, and some stainless rods...primitive. This was also 25 years ago in high-school, messing around in the garage.
 

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Yours is far more professionally constructed than mine 🤣 But then my electrolysis was for rust removal, not producing gases 😁
All I know is it worked amazingly well. 👍 You can see that it's percolating real well and no matches were struck.

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Outside, getting baked, but for a second there that c and o in curiosity sure looks like a t and a d at first glance..
 

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