Nursing schools?

[DaBank]

My daughter did not listen and leave home and go to collage and stayed and went to commuity collage to be close to her friends. She is now 22 has two full time jobs for the last three years and also goes to school, she has taken all the classes she can until she gets in the nursing program but the waiting list keeps getting longer and time keeps passing and she is thinking about going to a private nursing school that will cost $100k. We would help but I just can't see her having the much student loan debt to following her into the workplace. Does anyone here have a input on the private schools? Frank

 

[28Eliminator]

My daughter did the 4 year nursing program at Mt St Mary's girls college in Brentwood. Excellent school, and highly recommended.

 

[PlumLoco]

RCC Riverside Community Hospital had a program that my wife went through where you got your RN and an AA in 2.5 years for relatively cheap. Subsequently she has seen a ton of nursing students from all over the state come through over the last 15 years. She always thought her community college education was superior to all of the other schools. I can't imagine how you could think that RN is worth $100K. Have her talk to nurses that have been on the floor for ten years or more and look how broken down they are. Nurses don't enjoy a real high quality of life by and large as they get older. They also don't get paid nearly enough for what they are asked to do.

 

[DaBank]

I can't see spending a $100k plus either.

 

[DaBank]

I am just looking to hear some recent real world schools inmates or there friends/family have been to and the cost and how long the schooling was. Frank

 

[TCHB]

Three years ago my daughter graduated nursing school @ Long Beach State. My wife is also a RN who helped her get in and get through school.

My Advice
Get a 4 year BA in nursing and do not go to a private school. It is easier to get a NEW GRAD RN job when you graduate with a BA in nursing.

Second Choice

Complete all the pre requisites at a local Junior College and then apply to all Jr. College, and 4 year RN programs including the Jr. College in Havasu. Do not be picky just get in and go through the program. Graduate and take the state test and now you are a RN!

Too many people are picky about what school they go to but remember the main thing is go get through the program, take the state test and pass. The real job training starts at the hospital.

 

[236eaglexp]

There's a difference later on in your career if you don't get your bachelor's degree. An associate's degree RN will be less likely to get into management or administration later in career. My wife graduated with a BSN from California state university San Bernardino and consistently has been paid more and been hired on easier than friends with associate's degree RN. And she did so without a ton of debt that said friends carry after graduating. Try all the cal state universities.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

My daughter did not listen and leave home and go to collage and stayed and went to commuity collage to be close to her friends. She is now 22 has two full time jobs for the last three years and also goes to school, she has taken all the classes she can until she gets in the nursing program but the waiting list keeps getting longer and time keeps passing and she is thinking about going to a private nursing school that will cost $100k. We would help but I just can't see her having the much student loan debt to following her into the workplace. Does anyone here have a input on the private schools? Frank

The nursing program at ASU Havasu was pretty quick to get a friend of ours in.

Nursing is a good gig, my wife is 23 years in, makes six figures a year and works about 18 days a month. That's why it's so hard to get into nursing schools.

 

[JB in so cal]

Saddleback has a very respectable nursing program going back 30 years. South Orange County. :thumbsup

 

[Hugh Jascaulk]

Most major hospitals are now requiring a BA or BS in nursing

 

[milkmoney]

Does she have the option to get into a school in another state. Less populated maybe ?

 

[TPC]

My wife is an RN and pulls about $200K a year.
Some years more some years a little less but that's about average.
Be glad to bet anyone she earns that amount and meet them at our CPA to prove it.

It's a tough job, one has to be geared for it. Dealing with death and dieing, sickness, bloody gore, gooey shit all over a hairy prune shaped human, constant certification in medicine procedures and treatments, and that's just the start of it.

She works at USC where they have almost 980 RN's.
They won't even consider hiring anyone unless they have a resume' with serious experience:
Work at a doctors office, do first aid at events, further certifications beyond a degree and drinking beer at the sorority house (like many applicants), and so on and have it all documented on the application papers.

Some big medical centers offer a 20 year paid retirement plan. They don't think much of that bennie when they are young,,
but it's a bfd.
Finish school in their mid-20's,, retire mid 40's,, that's huge.

 

[82daytona]

I hear MCC (Mohave community college) has a great program.

 

[Aaron]

My sister finished the program at San Diego city college last year and is already working. She graduated with a b.a and is now going back to school (on line) for continuing education, I assume masters but not sure at Loyola. She is already working at less than a year out of school. A community college or city college is by far less money. She had to apply at a ton of schools but well worth the effort in the end.

 

[nowski]

My daughter did not listen and leave home and go to collage and stayed and went to commuity collage to be close to her friends. She is now 22 has two full time jobs for the last three years and also goes to school, she has taken all the classes she can until she gets in the nursing program but the waiting list keeps getting longer and time keeps passing and she is thinking about going to a private nursing school that will cost $100k. We would help but I just can't see her having the much student loan debt to following her into the workplace. Does anyone here have a input on the private schools? Frank

The private nursing school at $100k is no exaggeration. Friends of ours daughter went this route, graduated, 1 year out of school was married and now starting out a marriage with a $100k in the hole not including all the other debt there racking up... Tough way to go...

 

[TCHB]

Most major hospitals are now requiring a BA or BS in nursing

It does seem that way.
We have a friend in Havasu who just graduated from the Mohave County RN program and is working in Havasu at the hospital. It is a good profession and it seems like nurses are always needed.

 

[VoodooMedMan]

100k is steep. Private isn't bad but maybe there is a cheaper one. Problem I see is not the waiting list but the selection criteria. It's not that she'll get picked by being next on the list, they'll look at grades etc. My wife went to CSUSB, she applied and got accepted to a couple others too. She went to Mt Sac first for All prereq's that she could and had an AA with honors among other things. That's how you get in. There was only one gen ed class that had to be taken at the University. The rest of the three years was just nursing school.

Pay is there though. She made my salary working three days a week. Now that I'm looking for work she works the extra two days and almost replaces my salary. This doesn't start right out of school though. Great money right out of school but takes a few years to break six figures.

And Nursing doesn't suck. Not completely anyway. Depends on where you work. Figure out where you want to work and seek your target. My wife is Charge Nurse in the OR. She has worked in the OR since graduation. Actually was an intern before graduation. Oh there are stressful times but that comes more with the management aspect and also because she works the evening when crazy things happen with a light crew.

 

[DaBank]

I am thinking she should just wait to get in the program at our community collage that she goes to. Frank

 

[Tom Brown]

I'm kind of put back by some of the opinions thrown around in here. Either nursing is way different in the US or some of you guys don't know any nurses.

I don't know precisely how much Ann spent on her nursing degree but I have a reasonable idea and it was a fraction of $100K. If she had to stay in residence for four years, I'll bet the cost here would be right around the $100K mark. Still, if she had started her career with a $100K debt, it would not have been much of a problem, in the grand scheme of things.

Lifestyle varies widely, with nursing. There are some pretty not nice jobs but there are also some cake jobs. Up here, it works on seniority so the young nurses end up in the ER and shift work on hospital floors. That's probably a good thing. They are paid shift differential for nights and also for weekends. A night on a weekend probably pays about 15% more than a week day. I'm pretty sure that holds for the US but Ross would know better. Anyway, around here, a nurse with 10 or 15 years experience can work regular day shifts and it's a relatively nice lifestyle. It's one hell of a lot easier life than pretty much anything in the IT world.

You guys are short on nurses. Ann gets calls from head hunters once in a while. Some of the offers are pretty amazing. Some are less so. One of the worst offers, but somewhat interesting to us, was an offer of about $60K per year but 3 day weeks and it included what they called "luxury housing". If you add a mortgage to that salary, that's a pretty strong offer for 3 x 10 hour days per week, regular days, no overtime.

Keep in mind, my chick has quite a bit of experience and several specialized accreditation that make her a bit more desirable than most nurses. A nurse needs to be motivated to get that stuff, they don't just give it to you, but it doesn't appear to be that tough, either, and it pays off immediately. Every time Ann gains a certification, her wage takes a small bump and they pay for both the training and the exam.

What's $100K? A $500 per month payment? Even a non-motivated RN could out-earn that at the start of her career.

One thing I would say about nursing, it is not for people who go into it for the money. There are people nurses have to treat who are unbelievable. Ann has been told to "fuck off" countless times and for no reason. She will want to update their chart and people scream at her. It's not a daily occurrance but it happens. Occasionally, nurses get hit. It's rare around here but it happens. Those events are actioned but that doesn't stop the events from happening. The point is, there is an element of the public who should probably be euthanized. Unfortunately, nurses have to treat those people like regular humans.

Ann works with newborns and new mothers and occasionally, she works in labor and birth. Sometimes she works oncology, as well.

Nursing isn't for everyone but some people enjoy it and find it fulfilling. If Ann wasn't a nurse, she would be studying to be a nurse. It's her only interest and she loves it. Other nurses she works with are miserable and are only doing it for the money. It's not worth it for them, in my opinion. It is hard work and they have to see some bad stuff but they also see some pretty amazing stuff.

Best of luck to your daughter and keep in mind, the world needs ditch diggers too.


:cool

 

[linus3]

It is very competitive, more so than past. Wife says most hospitals wont even look at you if you don't have a BSN. Too many others with it. She finished most of her classes at a JC level then transferred to Azusa Pacific University. Was hired by Queen of the Valley (West Covina) before she even graduated. She only worked bed side for two years and then started to see the big $$$ was in medical sales. Most companies want BSN or other titles to sell there product as well. I watch her throw resumes in the trash if no BA. She now works for the leading Pulse Oximetry company and has worked her way to VP. It has been a great career for her and personally fun to watch her climb the corp. ladder over the last 20 years. The degree is a must and opens many more doors than not. Good luck to your daughter with the beginning of her climb. :thumbup:

 

[Yellowboat]

100k is not alot these days, I dated an orthopedic surgeon, for awhile that had 600k in debt( yes six) went to stanford, for both her undergrad and medical. Her loan payment was almost 8k a month. She ended up getting into pills. Last I heard she was on trip 5 or 6 to rehab and could never practice medicine again. Sad deal, she was a awesome women(and a tall redhead)

 

[Tom Brown]

100k is not alot these days, I dated an orthopedic surgeon, for awhile that had 600k in debt( yes six) went to stanford, for both her undergrad and medical. Her loan payment was almost 8k a month. She ended up getting into pills. Last I heard she was on trip 5 or 6 to rehab and could never practice medicine again. Sad deal, she was a awesome women(and a tall redhead)

That's a great motivational story. :thumbsup


lmfao!

 

[Yellowboat]

My bring home was more then twice hers. The running joke between my friends was she was perfect. I got great benfits, she was rich and never at home. ;-)

 

[Tom Brown]

My bring home was more then twice hers.

Up here, a salaried physician starts at $300K out of school. Once they have completed their internship and are fully licensed, their base salary is $400K. Physicians who have been practicing for 15 years make $550K per year and up, if they are salaried. If they have a practice, they can make more but, in Canada, they have to work to earn it because they are paid by the procedure.

You must make a lot of dosh. You're probably a rock star at sales with your high energy, positive approach to everything. :thumbsup


Ann's father was a heart specialist. He has passed but he advised Ann to be a nurse, not a doctor. Doctors spend their lives training, studying, and re-certifying. He spent a lot less time for his family than Ann has.

 

[Yellowboat]

She made about 180ish. So about 15 a month in gross, sub tract 8, leaves you 7, the goverment then takes 3, leaving you 4. She had to pay into her retirement and some malpractice insurance. Long story short a little over 3k.

 

[K-DOG]

My wife was in a very similar situation. She completed all her basic classes at a community college and then had the decision of sitting on a wait list of cheaper school for years or going to an expensive private nursing school with no wait list. She decided to go to National University which she started right away and in 2 years she had her BSN in nursing. She immediately got hired as an RN and made over $80K her 1st year. The school loan was alomst $50,000 but she paid it off in 2 years. Looking back it was by far the better decision. National is a very good program and make sure she goes for her BSN because most hospitals will only hire RNs with a 4 year degree.

School is hands down the best investment anyone can make. Think about the normal 20 something year old w/ no college working a normal job probably making $35-45K a year. They will probably continue that same trend for years and years with small increases throughout their life. Compare that with someone who gives up 4 years of that salary ($200,000 - if they don't work at all while in school) plus pays about $100,000 for their education. That seems like a large investment at the time but when they are done their annual salary will probably more than double, especially for something like nursing. That $300,000 investment just turned into an extra $50K a year or $1.5 million over a 30 year career.

 

[Tom Brown]

School is hands down the best investment anyone can make. Think about the normal 20 something year old w/ no college working a normal job probably making $35-45K a year. They will probably continue that same trend for years and years with small increases throughout their life. Compare that with someone who gives up 4 years of that salary ($200,000 - if they don't work at all while in school) plus pays about $100,000 for their education. That seems like a large investment at the time but when they are done their annual salary will probably more than double, especially for something like nursing. That $300,000 investment just turned into an extra $50K a year or $1.5 million over a 30 year career.

Not to mention the $100K you will pay for the education now will seem like peanuts in 15 years when the new nurses are talking about having to pay a quarter of a million but everyone is making $175K per year starting salary, right out of school. Time and inflation will shrink that $100K down to nothing.

 

[Outdrive1]

Not sure about nursing school. My daughter is going to med school. The estimate they gave us was 250k. This is in addition to her 4 years at ASU pre med.

100k is peanuts.

 

[batterup]

FYI - My company is currently hiring nurse case managers for the workers comp industry. We need to fill growth positions in the I.E., Bay Area, Fresno and possibly north of Santa Rosa. Please PM me if you know a nurse looking for a job and I will forward the details. ONE-A-DAY is our benefits broker, so he can vouch that we are a great company.

End of thread crap.

Thanks!

 

[whiteworks]

My contractors license was $250.00, I'm hoping to have it paid off in a few more years. :thumbsup

 

[John]

My sister in law graduated from Mt. Sac last year with her RN degree. She was on a waiting list for about 2 or 3 years before she got in. And when she got in, she was an alternate on the list. She literally got a call on Friday at 3pm and told she made it in and would start school on Monday. Good thing she worked for me. She was scared of not being prepared and contemplated waiting 1 more semester and continuing to work for me to save up more money. She was frantic calling her mom and dad and sisters to ask for advice and no one was answering. She came and told me her predicament and I solved the problem her her. I told her she had better start school on Monday because I was firing her.

Two years later she graduated and immediately had a job at San Antonio hospital. She is making good money and has no student loan debt. I guess I'm saying...if the $100k is tight for you; wait a little bit longer.

 

[brgrcru]

My daughter has about 1 year left and she will get her BS as an Rn. she started at U Of A came back went to a Jc for a couple years. wait was to long to get in the program. So she enrolled at west coast univ. her education will probably cost us around 125k by the time it is all paid for. But at least she will have a trade, can go any where and have many different fields to pursue as a nurse. plus 3 days on and 4 days off, plus good pay and benefits. at least she wont be graduating with a useless degree. she also plans on pursuing her masters after a couple years. Some words of advice for parents with little kids, save now and save big. if you think it is expensive now just wait, in another 15 years. academic scholarships are a lot easier to get then sports.

 

[VoodooMedMan]

My sister in law graduated from Mt. Sac last year with her RN degree. She was on a waiting list for about 2 or 3 years before she got in. And when she got in, she was an alternate on the list. She literally got a call on Friday at 3pm and told she made it in and would start school on Monday. Good thing she worked for me. She was scared of not being prepared and contemplated waiting 1 more semester and continuing to work for me to save up more money. She was frantic calling her mom and dad and sisters to ask for advice and no one was answering. She came and told me her predicament and I solved the problem her her. I told her she had better start school on Monday because I was firing her.

Two years later she graduated and immediately had a job at San Antonio hospital. She is making good money and has no student loan debt. I guess I'm saying...if the $100k is tight for you; wait a little bit longer.

San Antonio is a good spot. I think things will really get cooking when all the construction is done this year.

 

[nowski]

My contractors license was $250.00, I'm hoping to have it paid off in a few more years. :thumbsup

My safety glasses are a bit dirty is that Two Hundred Fifty Dollars???

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

When my wife comes home and tells me about her day which included holding the hand of a mom waiting for the heart to stop on their premature born child and then making ink prints of the hand and foot on a sympathy card for the mom and dad, I say she deserves the amount of money she makes.

 

[brgrcru]

When my wife comes home and tells me about her day which included holding the hand of a mom waiting for the heart to stop on their premature born child and then making ink prints of the hand and foot on a sympathy card for the mom and dad, I say she deserves the amount of money she makes.

:thumbup:

 

[h2o225]

Our daughter is a nursing major at College of Idaho. She looked at RCC they told her 2-3 years to get basics out of the way then 2-3 year wait to enter a program. She is finishing up her 2nd year at College of Idaho when she complete their program she will have a BSN from College of Idaho and 1 from idaho State with 2 minors. Her deciding factor was the waiting list for a California program to open. When she is done hopefully her total debt will be 25k. CofI also has a Physicians Assistant program that is really good. our daughter is thinking about it.
Going out of state to school wasnt that bad for her. She still gets home about every 2 months and is here in 3.5 hours by plane.

 

[Riverbound]

When my wife comes home and tells me about her day which included holding the hand of a mom waiting for the heart to stop on their premature born child and then making ink prints of the hand and foot on a sympathy card for the mom and dad, I say she deserves the amount of money she makes.

Same here. Mine is a pediatric oncologist. She has completely redefined my definition of a bad day at work.

 

[djunkie]

Same here. Mine is a pediatric oncologist. She has completely redefined my definition of a bad day at work.

Fuck. That has to be tough.

 

[Tom Brown]

My chick has been involved with cases of emergency surgeries and heroic attempts to save both the mother and baby. I recall one case where neither made it.

Those are not good days. Nurses leave crying and empty inside. At least, the good ones do.

It's all part of it but if someone is cut out to be a nurse, they need to be a nurse. If they are just interested in the money, it will be the worst decision they have ever made.

Oh yeah... don't let your daughter be a psych nurse. We need psych nurses but after a couple of years on the psych ward, psych nurses are irreparably damaged.

 

[DaBank]

My daughter has about 1 year left and she will get her BS as an Rn. she started at U Of A came back went to a Jc for a couple years. wait was to long to get in the program. So she enrolled at west coast univ. her education will probably cost us around 125k by the time it is all paid for. But at least she will have a trade, can go any where and have many different fields to pursue as a nurse. plus 3 days on and 4 days off, plus good pay and benefits. at least she wont be graduating with a useless degree. she also plans on pursuing her masters after a couple years. Some words of advice for parents with little kids, save now and save big. if you think it is expensive now just wait, in another 15 years. academic scholarships are a lot easier to get then sports.

This is where she just took a tour of the campus in Ontario? I know they have a few locations. How long has your daughter been there? I read that schools like this don't look to good when it come to hiring and this is why I started this thread right when she came home from the tour. Frank

 

[Riverbound]

My chick has been involved with cases of emergency surgeries and heroic attempts to save both the mother and baby. I recall one case where neither made it.

Those are not good days. Nurses leave crying and empty inside. At least, the good ones do.

It's all part of it but if someone is cut out to be a nurse, they need to be a nurse. If they are just interested in the money, it will be the worst decision they have ever made.

Oh yeah... don't let your daughter be a psych nurse. We need psych nurses but after a couple of years on the psych ward, psych nurses are irreparably damaged.

Very true.

 

[brgrcru]

This is where she just took a tour of the campus in Ontario? I know they have a few locations. How long has your daughter been there? I read that schools like this don't look to good when it come to hiring and this is why I started this thread right when she came home from the tour. Frank

She finished most of her pre-classes at Arizona and Glendale community college. she just did not want to wait another 2-3 years to get into Glendale nurses program and then only have a AA. so we looked at options. she works hard and has a 4.0 at West Coast. Don't let people tell you that it is not good school. lots of hands on with medical centers and she is working/ interning every Sunday at different Hospitals. lots of girls fall out of the program. its expensive but she is only doing a year and half at WC. she will be 24 when she grads and has taken 6 years to finish school. she played soccer 1 year at Arizona and hated the program, came back and struggled to get classes at Glendale is why it took so long. we also have a lot of medical centers that do business with us and friends that are nurses. I really don't think she will struggle to find a job.

 

[TPC]

My chick has been involved with cases of emergency surgeries and heroic attempts to save both the mother and baby. I recall one case where neither made it.

Those are not good days. Nurses leave crying and empty inside. At least, the good ones do.

It's all part of it but if someone is cut out to be a nurse, they need to be a nurse. If they are just interested in the money, it will be the worst decision they have ever made.

Oh yeah... don't let your daughter be a psych nurse. We need psych nurses but after a couple of years on the psych ward, psych nurses are irreparably damaged.

I dunno if it's the Swiss German up-bringing that makes my wife stoic, Spock human-Vulcan like or what to be able to put up with the dark side of life in nursing. Their is the good healing-success side too.
I've walked in to her unit when all the nurses are in a group cry-a-thon when something tragic happened.
It's a tough job, not for the average person. Not by a long shot.

 

[DaBank]

She finished most of her pre-classes at Arizona and Glendale community college. she just did not want to wait another 2-3 years to get into Glendale nurses program and then only have a AA. so we looked at options. she works hard and has a 4.0 at West Coast. Don't let people tell you that it is not good school. lots of hands on with medical centers and she is working/ interning every Sunday at different Hospitals. lots of girls fall out of the program. its expensive but she is only doing a year and half at WC. she will be 24 when she grads and has taken 6 years to finish school. she played soccer 1 year at Arizona and hated the program, came back and struggled to get classes at Glendale is why it took so long. we also have a lot of medical centers that do business with us and friends that are nurses. I really don't think she will struggle to find a job.

Sound like you have a good girl, my Daughter is a hard worker too and has been at Victorville Collage for almost 4 years and done all the classes she can until she gets into the program. So if you don't mind me asking how much is it going to cost for the 18 months she goes to WC? By the way how long has she been at WC? Frank

 

[brgrcru]

another thing, is paying out of state tuition $$$$$ . her first year at Arizona was 40k min.I am talking everything. and she had help with academics and athletic scholarship, now can you imagine another 4 years. going to Jc is smart if she can get classes first, then going to a different college or Univ. unless your of baller status.

 

[brgrcru]

Sound like you have a good girl, my Daughter is a hard worker too and has been at Victorville Collage for almost 4 years and done all the classes she can until she gets into the program. So if you don't mind me asking how much is it going to cost for the 18 months she goes to WC? By the way how long has she been at WC? Frank

its been almost a year. I think it will be right around 90k.:eek for 2 years. she will be paying some off and I will be paying, or should I say, still am paying.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

There are sad stories over dinner often but there are some pretty frikn hilarious ones as well, like when the two white parents are in the delivery room and a black baby popped out. Mom rolled the dice and came up short. Dad takes my wife aside and says "is that genetically possible, maybe he will lighten up?".

Awkward.

 

[BigSteve]

Nurses, can make excellent income. :thumbup:

Getting into medical and nursing schools is getting tougher and more expensive.

The best thing a person interested in the medical profession can do, starting in Jr high school.

Practice talking the SAT/ ACT in prep for the University admissions.

MCAT (medical college admission test) is based on 1. Physical sciences, 2. Biological sciences and 3. Verbal reasoning.

Kids, can earn valuable scholarships with a little effort

Home schooling and private tutors are cheep !