Next Up……Harley Davidson

[playdeep]

I thought HD was always woke....isn't that what that whole movement is about....homosexual dudes running around on slow bikes in chaps reving the throttles which insinuates "look at me."

I rode one once, felt gay and never got on another again. Now a GSXR1000 5th gear on a two lane will get he heart pumping!

Stupidest phuking post in this thread...seriously.
Vast majority of the guys I rode with were veterans.
Amazing guys just enjoying life after serving. .
I doubt you have the testicular girth to share your 'gay' testimonial with most die hard Harley riders...

 

[Morehart]

Stupidest phuking post in this thread...seriously.
Vast majority of the guys I rode with were veterans.
Amazing guys just enjoying life after serving. .
I doubt you have the testicular girth to share your 'gay' testimonial with most die hard Harley riders...

Nuff said he felt gay. Also a gsxr1000 has 6 gears. So then there's that

 

[was thatguy]

Stupidest phuking post in this thread...seriously.
Vast majority of the guys I rode with were veterans.
Amazing guys just enjoying life after serving. .
I doubt you have the testicular girth to share your 'gay' testimonial with most die hard Harley riders...

And there it is…the inevitable extension of insecurity.
I had to excise a few of my Harley riding friends from my life due to their exhausting social neediness and inability to exist anonymously.
I wouldn’t call them all gay, but I would call them intolerably needy of social staging.
They seemingly can’t do a single thing on their own.
When ever I’ve owned bikes, Harley’s included, it was because I enjoyed getting the fuck away from people, not because I needed to pack up with as many other socially needy people as possible.
Veterans aside, 50 wannabes clogging up the local coffee joint or the gas station is not impressive to me…Hell, I guess it is just gay after all.

 

[Morehart]

And there it is…the inevitable extension of insecurity.
I had to excise a few of my Harley riding friends from my life due to their exhausting social neediness and inability to exist anonymously.
I wouldn’t call them all gay, but I would call them intolerably needy of social staging.
They seemingly can’t do a single thing on their own.
When ever I’ve owned bikes, Harley’s included, it was because I enjoyed getting the fuck away from people, not because I needed to pack up with as many other socially needy people as possible.
Veterans aside, 50 wannabes clogging up the local coffee joint or the gas station is not impressive to me…Hell, I guess it is just gay after all.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

I like Harley Davidson, I've owned two, enjoyed them both, I would buy another. I sold my last one because I had no friends in Reno my age that rode, I got sick of riding to bars and drinking and riding home. There were too many good routes in the sierra, but it was a bit lonesome doing them solo. If I had a network to plan trips with I would buy another. My son talks about getting a bike, if he does, I would buy one.

I think their brand is an interesting thing. There was a great video that was well made a few years ago that explained how they started down the wrong path, it mentioned a lot about the India market and they missteps they made. I've always been interested in how they might attract a new demographic, and have said for years they need to make it very easy for active duty Military/LEO/First Responders to obtain financing and get them on bikes. That same video talked about how they just stayed too long making Boomer bikes and never tried to attract GenX. GenX is too small, they need the Millennials. They need adrenaline junkies. They need people who like adventure. The world is full of people who like video games.

Edit: @was thatguy I think I proved your point.

 

[Morehart]

cowboy in 5th gear

 

[was thatguy]

I like Harley Davidson, I've owned two, enjoyed them both, I would buy another. I sold my last one because I had no friends in Reno my age that rode, I got sick of riding to bars and drinking and riding home. There were too many good routes in the sierra, but it was a bit lonesome doing them solo. If I had a network to plan trips with I would buy another. My son talks about getting a bike, if he does, I would buy one.

I think their brand is an interesting thing. There was a great video that was well made a few years ago that explained how they started down the wrong path, it mentioned a lot about the India market and they missteps they made. I've always been interested in how they might attract a new demographic, and have said for years they need to make it very easy for active duty Military/LEO/First Responders to obtain financing and get them on bikes. That same video talked about how they just stayed too long making Boomer bikes and never tried to attract GenX. GenX is too small, they need the Millennials. They need adrenaline junkies. They need people who like adventure. The world is full of people who like video games.

Edit: @was thatguy I think I proved your point.

I’m the exact opposite.
I owned bikes to get away from people and do my own thing.
But, shockingly I know, I have never really enjoyed any sort of group activities.
I have really good friends on here, but you’ll never ever see me at any kind of raft up or get together of more than a few peeps at once.
I’ve never understood the need to assemble.

 

[Morehart]

I like Harley Davidson, I've owned two, enjoyed them both, I would buy another. I sold my last one because I had no friends in Reno my age that rode, I got sick of riding to bars and drinking and riding home. There were too many good routes in the sierra, but it was a bit lonesome doing them solo. If I had a network to plan trips with I would buy another. My son talks about getting a bike, if he does, I would buy one.

I think their brand is an interesting thing. There was a great video that was well made a few years ago that explained how they started down the wrong path, it mentioned a lot about the India market and they missteps they made. I've always been interested in how they might attract a new demographic, and have said for years they need to make it very easy for active duty Military/LEO/First Responders to obtain financing and get them on bikes. That same video talked about how they just stayed too long making Boomer bikes and never tried to attract GenX. GenX is too small, they need the Millennials. They need adrenaline junkies. They need people who like adventure. The world is full of people who like video games.

Edit: @was thatguy I think I proved your point.

This is why Buell failed. Harley Davidson is a legendary brand. I was confused when they sold out to Ford. The simple mechanics of the bikes are awesome, and yes I'm disgusted by most brands or companies just pandering to a demographic that isn't their loyal customer base. The backlash is ridiculous. Just go out for a ride on any bike and wave to any bike rider

 

[Morehart]

I’m the exact opposite.
I owned bikes to get away from people and do my own thing.
But, shockingly I know, I have never really enjoyed any sort of group activities.
I have really good friends on here, but you’ll never ever see me at any kind of raft up or get together of more than a few peeps at once.
I’ve never understood the need to assemble.

Well said. I like my freedom and the road

 

[playdeep]

And there it is…the inevitable extension of insecurity.
I had to excise a few of my Harley riding friends from my life due to their exhausting social neediness and inability to exist anonymously.
I wouldn’t call them all gay, but I would call them intolerably needy of social staging.
They seemingly can’t do a single thing on their own.
When ever I’ve owned bikes, Harley’s included, it was because I enjoyed getting the fuck away from people, not because I needed to pack up with as many other socially needy people as possible.
Veterans aside, 50 wannabes clogging up the local coffee joint or the gas station is not impressive to me…Hell, I guess it is just gay after all.

Missed my point...
You're a loner...as am I.

I'd jump on my soft tail and ride for hours alone no destination. just to enjoy the ride.
It was therapeutic for me.
That being said...
Vast majority of my riding buddies were veterans.
A number suffered from PTSD.
Getting together with their brothers in arms kept them going...comraderie.
point being...just because you don't 'get it/do it' doesn't mean others don't derive satisfaction from riding with friends.
Lastly...
I worry about you.
You seem to get more bitter at everything by the day.
I've always been one of your biggest admirers for the the way you've handled tragic devastation&adversity.

 

[was thatguy]

Missed my point...
You're a loner...as am I.

I'd jump on my soft tail and ride for hours alone no destination. just to enjoy the ride.
It was therapeutic for me.
That being said...
Vast majority of my riding buddies were veterans.
A number suffered from PTSD.
Getting together with their brothers in arms kept them going...comraderie.
point being...just because you don't 'get it/do it' doesn't mean others don't derive satisfaction from riding with friends.
Lastly...
I worry about you.
You seem to get more bitter at everything by the day.
I've always been one of your biggest admirers for the the way you've handled tragic devastation&adversity.

Not bitter, just more contrarian!

 

[DILLIGAF]

I’m the exact opposite.
I owned bikes to get away from people and do my own thing.
But, shockingly I know, I have never really enjoyed any sort of group activities.
I have really good friends on here, but you’ll never ever see me at any kind of raft up or get together of more than a few peeps at once.
I’ve never understood the need to assemble.

I can understand that. I am a solo rider for the most part. Maybe a couple of friends but I dont ride with groups.

Now my riding is limited to local country roads. Not interested in riding across the USA or into Canada anymore

My BIL is 70 and a serious rider...BMW and he always asks "what the fuck is the parade riding about...get the fuck out of the way as I am coming thru". Lol. Not exact words but you get the idea

Once in Monterey I was leading a pack as I am from there. One of the wives had her own bike and drug everybody down to like 45 on the highway. I pulled the entire group over and told her to keep up or get on your husbands bike. She was putting us all at risk.

There are a lot of people on Harleys that should not be. Simple as that

 

[oldman]

Missed my point...
You're a loner...as am I.

I'd jump on my soft tail and ride for hours alone no destination. just to enjoy the ride.
It was therapeutic for me.
That being said...
Vast majority of my riding buddies were veterans.
A number suffered from PTSD.
Getting together with their brothers in arms kept them going...comraderie.
point being...just because you don't 'get it/do it' doesn't mean others don't derive satisfaction from riding with friends.
Lastly...
I worry about you.
You seem to get more bitter at everything by the day.
I've always been one of your biggest admirers for the the way you've handled tragic devastation&adversity.

The crowd your talking about is not the same crowd in $1k worth of brand new gear to meet after a 30 min convivence ride to the trendy coffee shop.


I just saw a pic On GD flooded full of 10K worth of people, That's my worst nightmare. I want to wheel in private.

I love my 63 flatbottom, but don't want to be surrounded by 100 of them,

 

[Sportin' Wood]

I’m the exact opposite.
I owned bikes to get away from people and do my own thing.
But, shockingly I know, I have never really enjoyed any sort of group activities.
I have really good friends on here, but you’ll never ever see me at any kind of raft up or get together of more than a few peeps at once.
I’ve never understood the need to assemble.

More than a few people is a key take away in this quote. I agree with this. I would not pick a Harley Davidson as my mode of travel for getting away from people.

Selling bikes to loaners is not going to move the needle, HD needs joiners and starting with GenX people don't join much these days. I see Boomers at every gathering of anything, from Church to animal clubs to motorcycles and Jeeps clubs.

Maybe Iconic brands should have a shelf life? There seems like enough bikes in the market to satisfy the enthusiasts. Maybe they need to make something else.

 

[DILLIGAF]

More than a few people is a key take away in this quote. I agree with this. I would not pick a Harley Davidson as my mode of travel for getting away from people.

Selling bikes to loaners is not going to move the needle, HD needs joiners and starting with GenX people don't join much these days. I see Boomers at every gathering of anything, from Church to animal clubs to motorcycles and Jeeps clubs.

Maybe Iconic brands should have a shelf life? There seems like enough bikes in the market to satisfy the enthusiasts. Maybe they need to make something else.

Good points!

 

[oldman]

As in anything.
I appreciate a guy that has taken something from the past and made it his own.

old boats, old bikes, shitty old 4wheelers.

What I can spot a mile away is ???k in brand new gear.
Harley's, JK, JL, Jeeps, sand cars, There might be some old guys here that fit the bill.

Guys that have been doing it all their lives can make sorted out well built shit work. Guys that wrote a check to get the latest cool shit usually end up in trouble.

Harley's fall into the off the shelf weekender clientele.

 

[Roosky01]

I dont think HD makes it 10 more years. They will go bankrupt and the name will be bought up by somebody from China or India and that'll be that.

Another perfect case study of piss poor management.

 

[oldman]

I dont think HD makes it 10 more years. They will go bankrupt and the name will be bought up by somebody from China or India and that'll be that.

Another perfect case study of piss poor management.

way too many years ago someone lost control of the brand, now it's controlled by committee, that have no skin in the game or any heart it what the real brand 100 years ago was.

it's driven by money, no one has any stake in "the brand" its all driven by $$$$

 

[rrrr]

I haven't really followed this thread, found this interesting.

Harley-Davidson announces some production will move to Thailand

There’s a sense of pride behind the words "made in the USA." Andrew Worby says that's what Harley-Davidson is known for.

www.abc12.com

 

[oldman]

I haven't really followed this thread, found this interesting.

Harley-Davidson announces some production will move to Thailand

There’s a sense of pride behind the words "made in the USA." Andrew Worby says that's what Harley-Davidson is known for.

www.abc12.com

South Korea Finds Toxic Substances in Shein and Temu Products

South Korean officials found toxic substances in women’s accessories that Chinese e-commerce giants Shein, AliExpress, and Temu sell.

www.breitbart.com

 

[regor]

Another legendary American company, but……

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1826432179661889899

The power of the wallet is winning, F the globalhomos.

 

[poncho]

I have a lot of friends (couples) that are the very definition of what some of you guy's are putting down, not my thing and never will be. I stopped riding for 23 years and when I bought my bike everybody was excited and kept saying you can ride with us every weekend, there are benefit rides all summer long where I live.
I'm definitely a lone wolf and they quickly realized I wasn't going to be part of the gang. I have been pressured by clubs that think because I rode with them a time or two I am now obligated to join, aint happening.
I would never berate my friends that live for getting dressed up and jumping on their bike, that is their favorite thing in life and those are the people that will keep HD in business, not me. When I see their happiness just being on the bike together that makes me happy for them.

 

[DRYHEAT]

And there it is…the inevitable extension of insecurity.
I had to excise a few of my Harley riding friends from my life due to their exhausting social neediness and inability to exist anonymously.
I wouldn’t call them all gay, but I would call them intolerably needy of social staging.
They seemingly can’t do a single thing on their own.
When ever I’ve owned bikes, Harley’s included, it was because I enjoyed getting the fuck away from people, not because I needed to pack up with as many other socially needy people as possible.
Veterans aside, 50 wannabes clogging up the local coffee joint or the gas station is not impressive to me…Hell, I guess it is just gay after all.

I sure am glad there’s no one like that involved in the hobbies of boating and offloading.

 

[bilz]

I thought it was for rider safety.
Highly visible Rainbow vest made from sustainable material all gleaming of mindfulness and inclusion, replacing the cattle made black leather vest. Sure sounded like a california thing.

 

[was thatguy]

I have a lot of friends (couples) that are the very definition of what some of you guy's are putting down, not my thing and never will be. I stopped riding for 23 years and when I bought my bike everybody was excited and kept saying you can ride with us every weekend, there are benefit rides all summer long where I live.
I'm definitely a lone wolf and they quickly realized I wasn't going to be part of the gang. I have been pressured by clubs that think because I rode with them a time or two I am now obligated to join, aint happening.
I would never berate my friends that live for getting dressed up and jumping on their bike, that is their favorite thing in life and those are the people that will keep HD in business, not me. When I see their happiness just being on the bike together that makes me happy for them. View attachment 1419878 View attachment 1419879

I Totally get it.
My ex friends, however, are far more judgmental assholes than I am.
They said a lot worse things about me and my corvette than I’ve ever said about them and their leather clown suits.
Same thing though “Tommy you need a Harley so you can ride with us!”
My response? “The last thing I’d do on a Harley is play follow the leader from bar to bar with 30 of you clowns…”
Besides that, I refuse to chain my wallet to my jeans…or even wear long pants…so that’s sort of a deal breaker…

 

[poncho]

I Totally get it.
My ex friends, however, are far more judgmental assholes than I am.
They said a lot worse things about me and my corvette than I’ve ever said about them and their leather clown suits.
Same thing though “Tommy you need a Harley so you can ride with us!”
My response? “The last thing I’d do on a Harley is play follow the leader from bar to bar with 30 of you clowns…”
Besides that, I refuse to chain my wallet to my jeans…or even wear long pants…so that’s sort of a deal breaker…

The Corvette thing is funny, I'm definitely not a typical Vette owner. I get the stereotype somewhat since most of the owners are older and posers, I get crooked at over a hundred and my car has driven hard rash on it....Roll your own.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

Stupidest phuking post in this thread...seriously.
Vast majority of the guys I rode with were veterans.
Amazing guys just enjoying life after serving. .
I doubt you have the testicular girth to share your 'gay' testimonial with most die hard Harley riders...

This was meant as satire. It definitely got a reaction. Geezzz

 

[poncho]

This was meant as satire. It definitely got a reaction. Geezzz

It seemed off character to me from how you post, was there some Jack Daniels in that Coca Cola.

 

[bowtiejunkie]

The HD BOD might be more woke than a large Tech company. Crazy. Aside from that mess, HD needs to attract younger generations to replace the aging riders. New HD motorcycle registrations are down substanially in last three years. Market share has slipped 6% since 2021.

 

[poncho]

The HD BOD might be more woke than a large Tech company. Crazy. Aside from that mess, HD needs to attract younger generations to replace the aging riders. New HD motorcycle registrations are down substanially in last three years. Market share has slipped 6% since 2021.

I watched a movie last night called the Beanie Bubble, are there just too many bikes and not enough riders?
The bean counters only see immense profits tomorrow and don't really look at what 10 years later might look like.

 

[regor]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1827047735167529052

Options.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

It seemed off character to me from how you post, was there some Jack Daniels in that Coca Cola.

It was more like a trip to Stone Brewery (good buzz), then to the Irish Pub (drunk) for Smithwick's, then home and then oops, back to the Irish Pub (couldn't let the buzz go away). It was a pretty damn good day! School started yesterday so the wife and I wanted to take advantage of our last day drinking day for a while.

 

[poncho]

It was more like a trip to Stone Brewery (good buzz), then to the Irish Pub (drunk) for Smithwick's, then home and then oops, back to the Irish Pub (couldn't let the buzz go away). It was a pretty damn good day! School started yesterday so the wife and I wanted to take advantage of our last day drinking day for a while.

Right on

 

[Paradox]

To me it’s the simple joy of just getting out and riding. I like a variety of brands and have owned a Harley in the past. Currently own a 1200 Moto Guzzi Griso Black Devil, a 500 KTM EXC and a 1979 Yamaha 650 Special that is identical to the one I actually rode in 1979. A couple of scooters as well.

i find as I’ve gotten older (will be 65 shortly), I am slower but actually enjoy it more. I rode to breakfast with my wife yesterday morning and then a putt around town

 

[poncho]

To me it’s the simple joy of just getting out and riding. I like a variety of brands and have owned a Harley in the past. Currently own a 1200 Moto Guzzi Griso Black Devil, a 500 KTM EXC and a 1979 Yamaha 650 Special that is identical to the one I actually rode in 1979. A couple of scooters as well.

i find as I’ve gotten older (will be 65 shortly), I am slower but actually enjoy it more. I rode to breakfast with my wife yesterday morning and then a putt around town

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Those specials were everywhere when I was younger.

 

[Luvnlife]

Next time I see a Mongol, I’m going to ask him why he supports pedos?

I’ll ask the Vago at work on Monday.

 

[Wombat]

Next time I see a Mongol, I’m going to ask him why he supports pedos?

Hi Champ, don't forget to duck.