New three-quarter ton Diesel truck

[Bullhead bully]

OK guys. I know this is a can of worms loaded question with 1000 different answers but I’m gonna put it out there.
I’ve owned Ford diesel trucks. Dodge diesel trucks. And many Chevy gas trucks.
Currently have 2 F150 Platinum Hybrids that I love. (1 in MT and 1 in AZ ) But feeling the need for a bigger tow vehicle in AZ.
I want something as short as possible, as maneuverable as possible, wishing that it was the size of my crew cab short bed F150.

Crew cab shortest bed Diesel Loaded
4x4
Ford F250?
Chevy or GMC 2500
Dodge 2500

Who builds the shortest overall length three-quarter ton crew cab? Really hard to get a solid information on that. Reading 231.8 inches ?

Best parking/turning radius , best Towing. smoothest ride, I Really like my massaging seats.
Most reliable,Best dash Screen best cameras
All the bells and whistles and gadgets

Thanks for the input !

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

Duramax has the best turning radius imo. Over all length I'm not sure of.

 

[blue wonder]

Ford Platinum, conversation over, glad I could make this the shortest thread in RDP history, your welcome

 

[monkeyswrench]

How much are you needing to tow or haul, and does it need 4x4? These things can change some responses.

 

[NicPaus]

The Chevy bed is just under 7' on the standard. High Country is a nice truck. I am currently shopping myself.

There site makes it easy to find them. The Ford site was hard for me to search and not many high end models. You would probably have to order it.

What color do you prefer?

 

[NicPaus]

I really liked everything about my truck that was stolen. These are the 2 Duramax I wish I could afford.

 

[Bullhead bully]

The Chevy bed is just under 7' on the standard. High Country is a nice truck. I am currently shopping myself.

There site makes it easy to find them. The Ford site was hard for me to search and not many high end models. You would probably have to order it.

What color do you prefer?

Standard Arizona colors white with a black interior.

 

[Bullhead bully]

How much are you needing to tow or haul, and does it need 4x4? These things can change some responses.

No more than 10,000 pounds they all are overkill for what I need. Absolutely four-wheel-drive.But I want a little overkill without sacrificing too much of the practicality of the smaller F50

 

[adam909]

Your goiing to get all kinds of responses with that kind of question. Then we will have 4 pages of how the ford gasser is superior. All three will do what your asking. All three are great trucks. Out of the three only Chevy/GMC will ride the smoothest.

 

[CLdrinker]

Per Google Ram has the smallest turning radius by 7’ over the f250.

They are all nice trucks. Cant go wrong with any. Buy what you get the best deal on.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

One of our PM's has '24 2500HD duramax short bed crew cab and loves it. Tows the mini excavator, roller or backhoe. The turning radius makes it easy to put in tight spots. Definitely tighter tgen the ford

 

[NicPaus]

Jason has this one in Transit.
And Dutton has 3 of these Denali ultimates.

Have bought 2 trucks from Jason and have read nothing but good things about Dutton Dave on here.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Are you planning on bigger tires or lift?

 

[boatpi]

My up 250 King Ranch is about 15 months old now absolutely love it. It’s the best three-quarter ton I’ve ever owned. 21,000 miles on it other than a trim piece coming a little loose no issues whatsoever.

 

[monkeyswrench]

No more than 10,000 pounds they all are overkill for what I need. Absolutely four-wheel-drive.But I want a little overkill without sacrificing too much of the practicality of the smaller F50

In a weird way, I'm fortunate. One of my streams of income has been doing warranty inspections...basically looking at or driving other people's stuff. It doesn't pay much, but it gets me in with dealership techs and cars too new for me to work with, as they are under warranty. Of the big three, the Chevy gassers seem to be the best all-around, good ride, turn radius and such. The diesels have some issues, but not any I think you'd see towing 10k. The Dodges and Fords don't seem to turn as sharp. The Dodges tow good, but the coil spring rears get goofy depending on tongue weight or bed load. Really, all the current diesels do really well towing in the 10k range...just enough to be a load, but not harsh, heavy work. The absolute baller models of every brand seem to be Cadillac level pimp now. All of them are really nice, and really very few glitches. If I were you, I'd try to road test a Chevy/GMC, and at least one of the comparable Fords or Dodges. For your (relatively) limited use, I don't think you could go wrong with any of them. That being the case, treat it like a motorcycle...make sure it fits your frame and comfort level.

 

[DUNEFLYER]

Bought this exact truck in December, best riding 3/4 ton truck I have ever driven.
But my 2016 Dodge was a bit shorter and had a tighter turning radius than this GMC.

 

[DLC]

@Bullhead bully

GMC 1500 w/ diesel all that bad ass shit and great ride!

 

[DWC]

Bought this exact truck in December, best riding 3/4 ton truck I have ever driven.
But my 2016 Dodge was a bit shorter and had a tighter turning radius than this GMC.
View attachment 1489761

Nice looking truck.

 

[Bullhead bully]

In a weird way, I'm fortunate. One of my streams of income has been doing warranty inspections...basically looking at or driving other people's stuff. It doesn't pay much, but it gets me in with dealership techs and cars too new for me to work with, as they are under warranty. Of the big three, the Chevy gassers seem to be the best all-around, good ride, turn radius and such. The diesels have some issues, but not any I think you'd see towing 10k. The Dodges and Fords don't seem to turn as sharp. The Dodges tow good, but the coil spring rears get goofy depending on tongue weight or bed load. Really, all the current diesels do really well towing in the 10k range...just enough to be a load, but not harsh, heavy work. The absolute baller models of every brand seem to be Cadillac level pimp now. All of them are really nice, and really very few glitches. If I were you, I'd try to road test a Chevy/GMC, and at least one of the comparable Fords or Dodges. For your (relatively) limited use, I don't think you could go wrong with any of them. That being the case, treat it like a motorcycle...make sure it fits your frame and comfort level.

Are you planning on bigger tires or lift?

Probably not. I’m old now

@Bullhead bully

GMC 1500 w/ diesel all that bad ass shit and great ride!
really like the idea of it, but the problem is just the overall weight Towing the M37 on the highway. The boat will tell the half ton where to go. I need the truck to tell the boat where to go.
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[Bowtiepower00]

If you don’t need a full crew cab, you can get the Chevy (and probably the Ford) in an extended cab with 6.5’(ish) bed.

 

[NicPaus]

If you don’t need a full crew cab, you can get the Chevy (and probably the Ford) in an extended cab with 6.5’(ish) bed.

Would have to special order it for the higher trim level.

 

[JB in so cal]

Perfect post for RDP.

 

[Bullhead bully]

Perfect post for RDP.

Yeah it’s been 13 years since I’ve shopped for a diesel. I’m learning about all the changes

Again I love the F150 around town it does great but on the open road it’s just not right for the heavier towing.

 

[HNL2LHC]

We throughly like the 2500 Denali that we bought a couple of years ago. Have not towed much as we only have a 210 and the 28’ trailer has never been really loaded. But any time that we have had something in tow it was SO overkill. Best of luck in your search Paul.

 

[Justsomeguy]

I think the current power stroke over all is the best engine. The emissions system seem to work on them as well. But strangely it still runs the cp4. If you have that pump make sure to run additive.

The gmc with ifs is without a doubt the smoothest ride.

 

[rivermobster]

OK guys. I know this is a can of worms loaded question with 1000 different answers but I’m gonna put it out there.
I’ve owned Ford diesel trucks. Dodge diesel trucks. And many Chevy gas trucks.
Currently have 2 F150 Platinum Hybrids that I love. (1 in MT and 1 in AZ ) But feeling the need for a bigger tow vehicle in AZ.
I want something as short as possible, as maneuverable as possible, wishing that it was the size of my crew cab short bed F150.

Crew cab shortest bed Diesel Loaded
4x4
Ford F250?
Chevy or GMC 2500
Dodge 2500

Who builds the shortest overall length three-quarter ton crew cab? Really hard to get a solid information on that. Reading 231.8 inches ?

Best parking/turning radius , best Towing. smoothest ride, I Really like my massaging seats.
Most reliable,Best dash Screen best cameras
All the bells and whistles and gadgets

Thanks for the input !

Turning radius is controlled by wheel base, and on a 4x4...

The type of front axle being used.

A CV joint will Usually have less articulation that a u-joint.

You definitely have some homework to do to get to the bottom of this.

 

[JL95]

Everyone seems to have gotten used to the $80-100k diesel trucks lol. I remember freaking out about $70k trucks not too long ago lmfao

 

[Justsomeguy]

Everyone seems to have gotten used to the $80-100k diesel trucks lol. I remember freaking out about $70k trucks not too long ago lmfao

Mine was 53 otd brand new i thought 65 back then for a fully loaded ltz was crazy.

 

[rivermobster]

Correction...

I had it backwards.

A CV joint (constant velocity joint) will generally allow for a tighter turning radius compared to a U-joint (universal joint) in a 4x4 front-end design. Here's why:

CV Joints can maintain a smooth transfer of power at much higher angles (typically up to 45 degrees or more) without binding or losing efficiency. This allows for sharper steering angles and a tighter turning radius.

U-Joints, especially in solid axle applications, usually start binding at around 30-35 degrees, limiting how far the wheels can turn before they resist movement or cause drivetrain stress.


This is why independent front suspension (IFS) 4x4s with CV axles tend to have tighter turning radii than solid axle 4x4s with U-joints, such as in older Jeep and truck designs. However, U-joints are often stronger in off-road conditions, making them preferable for extreme rock crawling or heavy-duty applications.

 

[Justsomeguy]

Correction...

I had it backwards.

A CV joint (constant velocity joint) will generally allow for a tighter turning radius compared to a U-joint (universal joint) in a 4x4 front-end design. Here's why:

CV Joints can maintain a smooth transfer of power at much higher angles (typically up to 45 degrees or more) without binding or losing efficiency. This allows for sharper steering angles and a tighter turning radius.

U-Joints, especially in solid axle applications, usually start binding at around 30-35 degrees, limiting how far the wheels can turn before they resist movement or cause drivetrain stress.


This is why independent front suspension (IFS) 4x4s with CV axles tend to have tighter turning radii than solid axle 4x4s with U-joints, such as in older Jeep and truck designs. However, U-joints are often stronger in off-road conditions, making them preferable for extreme rock crawling or heavy-duty applications.

There is a reason guys SAS, and others(like me) consider it all the time. Then there are the stock guys. They don't usually go off road to matter.

 

[NicPaus]

Everyone seems to have gotten used to the $80-100k diesel trucks lol. I remember freaking out about $70k trucks not too long ago lmfao

Depends on the trim level huge variation. My River neighbor brother just got the best f250 you can buy $120k otd. They have a diesel 4x4 crew cab chevy at a local dealer for $58k plus fees. Power windows and its a nice truck compared to my 2015 Duramax it has a lot of upgrades.

I drive work trucks everyday. So a LT with leather is fancy to me. Drive my Ford all week and jump into it was night and day. A nice loaded LT 4x4 sold last weekend before me for 74k otd still expensive but 46k less otd than that f250.

Imagine financing it and having a 3k a month payment.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Everyone seems to have gotten used to the $80-100k diesel trucks lol. I remember freaking out about $70k trucks not too long ago lmfao

The good thing is that I think some of the prices have leveled off or gone down. Not much but it is not as bad as when we bought. But then don’t forget how much $$$ for the mods that you want to do.

 

[Justsomeguy]

Depends on the trim level huge variation. My River neighbor brother just got the best f250 you can buy $120k otd. They have a diesel 4x4 crew cab chevy at a local dealer for $58k plus fees. Power windows and its a nice truck compared to my 2015 Duramax it has a lot of upgrades.

I drive work trucks everyday. So a LT with leather is fancy to me. Drive my Ford all week and jump into it was night and day. A nice loaded LT 4x4 sold last weekend before me for 74k otd still expensive but 46k less otd than that f250.

Imagine financing it and having a 3k a month payment.

74 for a loaded lt. Mine was an lt2 z71 with convenience package. That's 20k increase. Just under 1600 a year increase. I guess when you look at it that way it doesn't sound as bad. But when you hear 74 for a truck. It hurts.

Like mentioned, plus building it. Guess I'll keep rebuilding my pile.

 

[ChrisV]

After driving a f450. Nothing will have that great of a steering radius compared to that imo.

Get a limited...

 

[NicPaus]

74 for a loaded lt. Mine was an lt2 z71 with convenience package. That's 20k increase. Just under 1600 a year increase. I guess when you look at it that way it doesn't sound as bad. But when you hear 74 for a truck. It hurts.

Like mentioned, plus building it. Guess I'll keep rebuilding my pile.

I got a quote for my exact 2021 2500hd gas 4x4. With amp steps and upgrades 79k otd. I paid 58k otd.

It hurts having to replace a truck that was perfect for 30k more than insurance gave.

That's why I am shopping around. The 74k was msrp and was on special 8600 off
Which was best price I found.

 

[NicPaus]

This one looks nice.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Correction...

I had it backwards.

A CV joint (constant velocity joint) will generally allow for a tighter turning radius compared to a U-joint (universal joint) in a 4x4 front-end design. Here's why:

CV Joints can maintain a smooth transfer of power at much higher angles (typically up to 45 degrees or more) without binding or losing efficiency. This allows for sharper steering angles and a tighter turning radius.

U-Joints, especially in solid axle applications, usually start binding at around 30-35 degrees, limiting how far the wheels can turn before they resist movement or cause drivetrain stress.


This is why independent front suspension (IFS) 4x4s with CV axles tend to have tighter turning radii than solid axle 4x4s with U-joints, such as in older Jeep and truck designs. However, U-joints are often stronger in off-road conditions, making them preferable for extreme rock crawling or heavy-duty applications.

Back in 07, when I was more financially "healthy" we'll say, I had an 07 F550. I assume with the larger axles, the larger u-joints allowed for more steering angle. Even with a slightly longer wheelbase, that bastard could out turn a 2wd Ford or Chevy. Someday I'd like to find another one...and pull the 6.0 and run either a 7.3 or a 24v 5.9. Wouldn't be the modern rockets like the modern trucks, but about as bulletproof a rig as you could find.

 

[jperog]

Paul,

I have two Dodge Mega Cab short box trucks. 22' is a 3/4 and 24' is a 1 ton. They ride about the same and neither one has been in the shop for anything. 65K on the 22' and 15k on the 24'. The 1 ton is available with the accen transmission, High Output 6.7, and air bags "I bought the limited with every option" and they gave me 20K off of sticker which was 114K . Both trucks do everything well but they are a 6 speed Vs the G.M. 10 speed. The Dodge extra cab room is really nice once you've had one.
22 has the topper, 24 has the tonneau cover.

I had a 23 GMC Platinum and loved it but there was always something needing to be looked at. I got fed up with it being in the dealership and not having it at my disposal. so I bought another Dodge.

Joe

 

[ToMorrow44]

After driving a f450. Nothing will have that great of a steering radius compared to that imo.

Get a limited...

My f650 is like that too. The tires damn near turn 90 degrees. It’s shocking how maneuverable it is, way easier than my 2wd f250

 

[DILLIGAF]

Why not use AI to answer this? I bet you it could me more accurate than all of us on here.

More specific the question the better chance for a clear answer.

Anybody that uses AI give it a go and post it up

 

[boatpi]

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[CLdrinker]

Turning radius is controlled by wheel base, and on a 4x4...

The type of front axle being used.

A CV joint will Usually have less articulation that a u-joint.

You definitely have some homework to do to get to the bottom of this.

I already googled it and answered above. Ram turning radius is the smallest beat ford by 7’

 

[575cat]

I think the current power stroke over all is the best engine. The emissions system seem to work on them as well. But strangely it still runs the cp4. If you have that pump make sure to run additive.

The gmc with ifs is without a doubt the smoothest ride.

Yes GM,s have allways been built for the ladies , on the wrenching end GM,s are great money makers,s , not relating to the ladies when they blow they blow hard . current powerstroke is about the best ford,s gonna get oh well . short wheel base rough ride , you need length

 

[Xring01]

OK guys. I know this is a can of worms loaded question with 1000 different answers but I’m gonna put it out there.
I’ve owned Ford diesel trucks. Dodge diesel trucks. And many Chevy gas trucks.
Currently have 2 F150 Platinum Hybrids that I love. (1 in MT and 1 in AZ ) But feeling the need for a bigger tow vehicle in AZ.
I want something as short as possible, as maneuverable as possible, wishing that it was the size of my crew cab short bed F150.

Crew cab shortest bed Diesel Loaded
4x4
Ford F250?
Chevy or GMC 2500
Dodge 2500

Who builds the shortest overall length three-quarter ton crew cab? Really hard to get a solid information on that. Reading 231.8 inches ?

Best parking/turning radius , best Towing. smoothest ride, I Really like my massaging seats.
Most reliable,Best dash Screen best cameras
All the bells and whistles and gadgets

Thanks for the input !

My opinion.
The only reason to go with newer diesel trucks is because you have to tow more than the “gas” models are rated at.

Why do I think this way. The modern diesels have all kinds of systems that lead to high failure rates. Hopefully the 2025 models are alot better than the 2023 models…

I will re iterate 2 of my neighbors, both with newer trucks.
Neighbor 1 - guessing its 2022 totally loaded Ram Cummings 2500… Put 14000 lb load behing that truck… and life if good. Drive that thing from Reno to Washington with that load… no problem what so ever. Disconnect that load and drive into town to have dinner. Goes into limp mode withn 8 miles. Literally spent more time at the dealer module swapping than at his house. Very close to getting lemoned lawed… VERY…. But he 100% deleted it about 4 months ago… And Life is GOOD>

Neighbor 2 - guessing he had 2021 F250 Platinum. He owns a earth moving company…and use’s the fuck out of his truck and equipment. At 120,000 miles ish… He came over to grab my code scanner to clear codes. Does that about once a month. This time.. Codes would not clear and it was running like shit. He took it to the dealer to get it fixed. And started shopping for a new one… The mechanic found him on the lot, and asked him why he likes to park his truck over camp fires… And walked him to the back to see his truck on a lift…
That truck was totaled. Like dont pass go. Exhaust system plugged up big time… and literally cooked the chasis/frame Etc all due to the heat.

I have had a couple of GMC 2500 diesels… First was 2002 which I sold 275,000 miles ish.. awesome, basic front end issues at 150,000 and the o ring on the diesel priming pump which I swapped out, minor minor issues. Never left me stranded. Currently have a 2016 GMC 2500… fully deleted and its a beast… I would have never bought my 2016 if it wasn’t deleted. My sons friend built this truck for his own use, graduated with a Mechanical ENgineering degree… and was issued a brand new 2022 GMC 2500 Denali as his work truck. So he had 2… decided to sell the 2016 to raise $$$ to buy a house. I bought with a 90,000 ish and it probably has 115K now. No problems what so ever.

Neighbor 3 has 2018 Dodge 2500 Cummins… grenaded the transmission @ 85000miles… rarely tows anything.

I prefer Chevy/GMC primarily due to the Allison. If you delete a modern 6.6 or buy one that 2006 or prior, they are extremely reliable in my opinion.

If you do have to own a diesel, then buy one with out all the crap which can/will fail…2007 or prior. If you can delete them. I prefer Chevys but then Dodges over Fords. But both have the strenghts/weakness’s. Neither has a tranny as good as an Allison.

Thats my opinion… I know it will offend lots of peeps… as you can see, when I am spending that kind of money, even for used trucks. Reliability is #1 on my list. With out that, then I risk fucking up a critical family vacation. Which only comes around once per year. If its not reliable, and I cant trust it, then I will not own it. But thats me. Yes eventually my truck will let me down, like they all do. But I do my best to get reliable trucks and I PERSONALLY MAINTAIN THEM. I do every oil change, fuel filter, air filters etc etc etc. I dont trust dealers of Jiffy lubes with my truck. Owe hell no.

 

[Looking Glass]

Depends on the trim level huge variation. My River neighbor brother just got the best f250 you can buy $120k otd. They have a diesel 4x4 crew cab chevy at a local dealer for $58k plus fees. Power windows and its a nice truck compared to my 2015 Duramax it has a lot of upgrades.

I drive work trucks everyday. So a LT with leather is fancy to me. Drive my Ford all week and jump into it was night and day. A nice loaded LT 4x4 sold last weekend before me for 74k otd still expensive but 46k less otd than that f250.

Imagine financing it and having a 3k a month payment.

And then A-Hole Door Dents you.

 

[Bullhead bully]

My opinion.
The only reason to go with newer diesel trucks is because you have to tow more than the “gas” models are rated at.

Why do I think this way. The modern diesels have all kinds of systems that lead to high failure rates. Hopefully the 2025 models are alot better than the 2023 models…

I will re iterate 2 of my neighbors, both with newer trucks.
Neighbor 1 - guessing its 2022 totally loaded Ram Cummings 2500… Put 14000 lb load behing that truck… and life if good. Drive that thing from Reno to Washington with that load… no problem what so ever. Disconnect that load and drive into town to have dinner. Goes into limp mode withn 8 miles. Literally spent more time at the dealer module swapping than at his house. Very close to getting lemoned lawed… VERY…. But he 100% deleted it about 4 months ago… And Life is GOOD>

Neighbor 2 - guessing he had 2021 F250 Platinum. He owns a earth moving company…and use’s the fuck out of his truck and equipment. At 120,000 miles ish… He came over to grab my code scanner to clear codes. Does that about once a month. This time.. Codes would not clear and it was running like shit. He took it to the dealer to get it fixed. And started shopping for a new one… The mechanic found him on the lot, and asked him why he likes to park his truck over camp fires… And walked him to the back to see his truck on a lift…
That truck was totaled. Like dont pass go. Exhaust system plugged up big time… and literally cooked the chasis/frame Etc all due to the heat.

I have had a couple of GMC 2500 diesels… First was 2002 which I sold 275,000 miles ish.. awesome, basic front end issues at 150,000 and the o ring on the diesel priming pump which I swapped out, minor minor issues. Never left me stranded. Currently have a 2016 GMC 2500… fully deleted and its a beast… I would have never bought my 2016 if it wasn’t deleted. My sons friend built this truck for his own use, graduated with a Mechanical ENgineering degree… and was issued a brand new 2022 GMC 2500 Denali as his work truck. So he had 2… decided to sell the 2016 to raise $$$ to buy a house. I bought with a 90,000 ish and it probably has 115K now. No problems what so ever.

Neighbor 3 has 2018 Dodge 2500 Cummins… grenaded the transmission @ 85000miles… rarely tows anything.

I prefer Chevy/GMC primarily due to the Allison. If you delete a modern 6.6 or buy one that 2006 or prior, they are extremely reliable in my opinion.

If you do have to own a diesel, then buy one with out all the crap which can/will fail…2007 or prior. If you can delete them. I prefer Chevys but then Dodges over Fords. But both have the strenghts/weakness’s. Neither has a tranny as good as an Allison.

Thats my opinion… I know it will offend lots of peeps… as you can see, when I am spending that kind of money, even for used trucks. Reliability is #1 on my list. With out that, then I risk fucking up a critical family vacation. Which only comes around once per year. If its not reliable, and I cant trust it, then I will not own it. But thats me. Yes eventually my truck will let me down, like they all do. But I do my best to get reliable trucks and I PERSONALLY MAINTAIN THEM. I do every oil change, fuel filter, air filters etc etc etc. I dont trust dealers of Jiffy lubes with my truck. Owe hell no.

Thanks for your input. I’ve heard quite a few horror stories on the newer diesels. Years ago they were so plug-and-play bulletproof pre-all the chemical shit. Just simple, long lasting brute power.
Definitely consideration.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

F250 platinum with the tremor package would be my choice.

Your criteria rank below
Shortest Length: Ram, Chevrolet, Ford
Best Ride: Chevrolet, Ram, Ford
Turning Radius: Unknown
Massage seats: All

 

[Xring01]

Thanks for your input. I’ve heard quite a few horror stories on the newer diesels. Years ago they were so plug-and-play bulletproof pre-all the chemical shit. Just simple, long lasting brute power.
Definitely consideration.

No problem..
Most people buy new stuff, because they make the assumption, its more reliable…no problems for 100,000 miles..
”They dont want some one elses problems”…

With modern diesels… literally have so much crap on them (Forced by the EPA), that is not proven tech, and it fails. Its a fact on all makes/models… No manufacture has a perfect tract record on that… NONE…

If you need a diesel to tow heavy shit…
I highly recommend buying that used cream puff that someones grandpa didn’t drive, 2007 or prior, build it to suit your needs.

Or find one that newer thats been deleted/built correctly (like i did)… Because if you do it your self.. it takes alot of time and $$$ to do it right, and then you still may have a gremlin or two that has to be worked out.

There is not 1, brand new diesel out their I would buy… NONE OF THEM… Not worth the $$$. Especially when you factor in the higher than normal failure rates…

For some people $90K plus for a new truck is nothing. For most, they can’t afford $40K vehicle…
I do better than most… I am not spending $90k plus on a new truck, when I build a much better truck for about half the price… AND I CAN TRUST IT.

 

[CLdrinker]

F250 platinum with the tremor package would be my choice.

Your criteria rank below
Shortest Length: Ram, Chevrolet, Ford
Best Ride: Chevrolet, Ram, Ford
Turning Radius: Unknown (Answered Twice)
Massage seats: All

 

[NicPaus]

How long do you plan to keep it?

That's another consideration if going gas or diesel. Most the guys I know trade them in every 3-5 years.

I had gas. Got great mpg unloaded on the highway. Now debating diesel. As I might buy a toyhauler or large enclosed.