New Empire / Carrera Boats

[OldSchoolBoats]

Does anyone have the scoop on what the heck is going on with this guy? I keep seeing his stuff pop up on Facebook but it is all very odd. He is using pics of what appear to be Tahiti Boats but he has crossed out the Tahiti badging and even went as far as to place "New Empire" over Tahiti's name in a couple pics. Just a couple weeks ago he posted a sellers permit for Carrera Boats and a live video of what looks like a Shockwave 22 Deck being built.

Anyone else see this being posted or have any information on this guy and his operation?? @Goodtime$

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

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[Q4mtxUS]

Not sure what the heck is goin' on here but the 257 Effect Deck looks great. I only know about boats from this site but ima thinkin'........that not where the fuel tanks go

 

[BIGRED9158]

That’s fucking weird lol

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Not sure what the heck is goin' on here but the 257 Effect Deck looks great. I only know about boats from this site but ima thinkin'........that not where the fuel tanks go

Agreed, the 257 is a great looking boat but the pictures of it haven't changed at all in over a month. It is all very strange.

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[BIGRED9158]

Isn’t the Tahiti guy a member on here...

 

[SOCALCRICKETT]

Todd is on here, the is goodtime$

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[RichieRich]

Isn’t the Tahiti guy a member on here...

I think so...I talked to him a while back

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

I think so...I talked to him a while back

That's why I tagged him in the first post. Hoping he can shed some light on what the deal is with New Empire / Carrera.

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[Englewood]

I love the upholstery and how the integrated the logo...Cutting edge.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The answer Joe is that someone (or a series of people) somewhere didn’t get their money and/or get what they paid for.

Countdown to someone quoting this post and saying this is all just a “misunderstanding” in 3....2....

 

[BIGRED9158]

I just checked the address from the piece of paper in the picture posted and it says that address is Tahiti boats

 

[rivrrts429]

That’s the fiberglass composites location where the Tahiti’s are laid up. The molds are at the location. It’s next to the Hemet airport.

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

This was just posted 15 mins ago.

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[Havasu blue label]

They been there next to last chance marine for awhile

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

I don't know about you, but seeing a craigslist ad with a half-finished boat and a name written over Tahiti in MS Paint makes me want to drop $XX,XXXX

Edit: I really really hope Tahiti wasn't done in by COVID. I haven't seen Goodtimes posting builds for a bit.

 

[Done-it-again]

Its a boat company....surprised?

 

[Q4mtxUS]

so this "23 deck in the making" is not bad looking. The deck looks to be based off a Placecraft/Shockwave/Tahiti with 5+ inches more gunnel height, but the hull is something completely different. The floor looks to be flat all throughout.....oh, oh, oh.....I think I figured it out. Me eye spys the hull of the 22 Daytona, maybe?

I like it....but please please please dont bolt on a bow platform.

 

[attitude]

so this "23 deck in the making" is not bad looking. The deck looks to be based off a Placecraft/Shockwave/Tahiti with 5+ inches more gunnel height, but the hull is something completely different. The floor looks to be flat all throughout.....oh, oh, oh.....I think I figured it out. Me eye spys the hull of the 22 Daytona, maybe?

I like it....but please please please dont bolt on a bow platform.

Well the 22 Daytona mold was sold, not sure where it ended up.

 

[JFMFG]

I’ve seen Tahiti post story’s on Instagram I’m curious as to why someone is slapping their name over his.

 

[pwerwagn]

He posts a lot on the carrera boat owners everywhere facebook group. Not sure of specifics at all (I think hes supposed to be at the Carrera regatta in aug tho?), but Im glad to see the 257 making a comeback!

Dennis Winzen also posts in that same group.

 

[mjc]

That’s the fiberglass composites location where the Tahiti’s are laid up. The molds are at the location. It’s next to the Hemet airport.

Is that where Commader used to be?

 

[BIGRED9158]

Ask the guy on Facebook where his shop is and I will investigate if it’s in Hemet that’s where I live

 

[rivrrts429]

Is that where Commader used to be?

No, Commander was in Corona and Perris. The Perris location is where the molds were laid up if my recollection is correct.

This location is where Carrera and, I think, the Orion’s were laid up.

 

[gqchris]

Todd is posting in Instagram all the time for Tahiti. They are like 6 months jam packed with builds from what I have seen. He will be here shortly I am sure.

 

[RiverDave]

The answer Joe is that someone (or a series of people) somewhere didn’t get their money and/or get what they paid for.

Countdown to someone quoting this post and saying this is all just a “misunderstanding” in 3....2....

Si are you saying that is what is going on? Or just being an asshole?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Si are you saying that is what is going on? Or just being an asshole?

Yes.

 

[Outdrive1]

so this "23 deck in the making" is not bad looking. The deck looks to be based off a Placecraft/Shockwave/Tahiti with 5+ inches more gunnel height, but the hull is something completely different. The floor looks to be flat all throughout.....oh, oh, oh.....I think I figured it out. Me eye spys the hull of the 22 Daytona, maybe?

I like it....but please please please dont bolt on a bow platform.

Looks like the Ultra deck to me.


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[fishing fool]

This is all a misunderstanding...

The answer Joe is that someone (or a series of people) somewhere didn’t get their money and/or get what they paid for.

Countdown to someone quoting this post and saying this is all just a “misunderstanding” in 3....2....

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

This is all a misunderstanding...

Right on cue lol

 

[RiverDave]

Yes.

par for the course..

 

[Q4mtxUS]

Looks like the Ultra deck to me.

Does the 23 Ultra hull have a step?

And one other question. Does the 23 WPM have a stepped hull?

 

[parker guy]

Well the 22 Daytona mold was sold, not sure where it ended up.

Essex has it according to Eliminator

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

par for the course..

For the local custom boat and sales Industry, indeed it is.

 

[stokerwhore]

Does the 23 Ultra hull have a step?

And one other question. Does the 23 WPM have a stepped hull?

yes for WPM... unless my memory is shittier than i think it is

 

[shippingguy]

Looks like the Ultra deck to me.


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No the Ultra 23 Shadow Deck has the curved(Stealth/Shadow) top.


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[BingerFang]

Ask the guy on Facebook where his shop is and I will investigate if it’s in Hemet that’s where I live

Here you are bro!

3960 Industrial Ave
Hemet, CA 92545

 

[AJ13]

Its across the street fire station at the airport.

 

[boatpi]

He does not show a USCG MIC license yet, but the database may be slow to update.

 

[Bigbore500r]

The answer Joe is that someone (or a series of people) somewhere didn’t get their money and/or get what they paid for.

Countdown to someone quoting this post and saying this is all just a “misunderstanding” in 3....2....

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

New Director of Sales was just hired on, Tim something, didnt catch the last name, impressive resume, he used to run a shop in Havasu.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

New Director of Sales was just hired on, Tim something, didnt catch the last name, impressive resume, he used to run a shop in Havasu.

That gig ended in a misunderstanding too I heard.

 

[Gelcoater]

That’s the fiberglass composites location where the Tahiti’s are laid up. The molds are at the location. It’s next to the Hemet airport.

By the pic posted it looks like it.

 

[LC925]

Does the 23 Ultra hull have a step?

And one other question. Does the 23 WPM have a stepped hull?

They did have the WPM lower mold there a few months ago at Joel’s fiberglass shop.

 

[Goodtime$]

Todd is posting in Instagram all the time for Tahiti. They are like 6 months jam packed with builds from what I have seen. He will be here shortly I am sure.

Thanks bud. Covid wont stop us as that shit isnt real.

OK Quick notes and im going to line item them so its not to be confused.

1. Betto Ochoa owns the molds. He was the GM at the glass shop (Fibercomposites Joel Casillas ) for many years.
2. They had a falling out. Betto moved next door to the Trailer Shop and purchased that business.
3. Betto is my friend. Works his ass off and has always stayed late with me. I owe him a lot.
4. We build the 242 SKIER, we had a license agreement with Ray who owned the mold and have built 3.
5. Ray sold all the molds to Betto. Now we buy the 242 Hulls from Betto when and if we sell one.
6. New Empire Boats is Betto, I believe they will call it Carrera Boats from now on.
7. The 23 Cat is a 23' WPM BOTTOM and the top deck is pieces of a placecraft/ ao / carrera cat and is in the tooling phase.
8. The 257 Carrera Party Effect hull is out and decked. The fuel tanks are in and it will go to rigging.
9. Betto has moved all the molds into his trailer shop yard- Most of them (Carrera / Aftershock) and many more are still yet to be moved.

Tahiti will continue to build boats next door, I will always help Betto with fuel tanks, rigging and anything I can. He helped me grow the business and is a great wood guy. I will always look out for the best interest.

We continue to work together to make the 242 hull correct for 3 different power options:
JET - in rigging
Inboard - LSA Bravo delivered
300R - Parker bound today.

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Thanks bud. Covid wont stop us as that shit isnt real.

OK Quick notes and im going to line item them so its not to be confused.

1. Betto Ochoa owns the molds. He was the GM at the glass shop (Fibercomposites Joel Casillas ) for many years.
2. They had a falling out. Betto moved next door to the Trailer Shop and purchased that business.
3. Betto is my friend. Works his ass off and has always stayed late with me. I owe him a lot.
4. We build the 242 SKIER, we had a license agreement with Ray who owned the mold and have built 3.
5. Ray sold all the molds to Betto. Now we buy the 242 Hulls from Betto when and if we sell one.
6. New Empire Boats is Betto, I believe they will call it Carrera Boats from now on.
7. The 23 Cat is a 23' WPM BOTTOM and the top deck is pieces of a placecraft/ ao / carrera cat and is in the tooling phase.
8. The 257 Carrera Party Effect hull is out and decked. The fuel tanks are in and it will go to rigging.
9. Betto has moved all the molds into his trailer shop yard- Most of them (Carrera / Aftershock) and many more are still yet to be moved.

Tahiti will continue to build boats next door, I will always help Betto with fuel tanks, rigging and anything I can. He helped me grow the business and is a great wood guy. I will always look out for the best interest.

We continue to work together to make the 242 hull correct for 3 different power options:
JET - in rigging
Inboard - LSA Bravo delivered
300R - Parker bound today.

Do you have a picture of the 242 outboard?

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

Thanks bud. Covid wont stop us as that shit isnt real.

OK Quick notes and im going to line item them so its not to be confused.

1. Betto Ochoa owns the molds. He was the GM at the glass shop (Fibercomposites Joel Casillas ) for many years.
2. They had a falling out. Betto moved next door to the Trailer Shop and purchased that business.
3. Betto is my friend. Works his ass off and has always stayed late with me. I owe him a lot.
4. We build the 242 SKIER, we had a license agreement with Ray who owned the mold and have built 3.
5. Ray sold all the molds to Betto. Now we buy the 242 Hulls from Betto when and if we sell one.
6. New Empire Boats is Betto, I believe they will call it Carrera Boats from now on.
7. The 23 Cat is a 23' WPM BOTTOM and the top deck is pieces of a placecraft/ ao / carrera cat and is in the tooling phase.
8. The 257 Carrera Party Effect hull is out and decked. The fuel tanks are in and it will go to rigging.
9. Betto has moved all the molds into his trailer shop yard- Most of them (Carrera / Aftershock) and many more are still yet to be moved.

Tahiti will continue to build boats next door, I will always help Betto with fuel tanks, rigging and anything I can. He helped me grow the business and is a great wood guy. I will always look out for the best interest.

We continue to work together to make the 242 hull correct for 3 different power options:
JET - in rigging
Inboard - LSA Bravo delivered
300R - Parker bound today.

"As the BOAT WORLD turns"


Thanks for the "explanation"!

And just "keep on, keeping on!" cause TAHITI is "killing it".. IMO!! Fair prices with beautiful product, especially in the "jet bote" world right now!!

 

[Goodtime$]

300R V8 IS RAD! Im shit shocked we have not done one in a 23 deck yet. Motor pulls hard

SKI RACE 242R - 300R parker bro - Sundance Brock

 

[Goodtime$]

Ski

Essex has it according to Eliminator

If essex bought the 22 daytona mold. Does that mean the 21 daytona mold is for sale for a reasonable price????? asking for a friend

 

[NicPaus]

Nice. I met Brock at Sundance few years ago. Finally sold the Ultra and got a hell of a upgrade. Congrats!