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Question for the contractors: bare with me- whats a ballpark price to redo my driveway?

The driveway is ~950 sqft total. Of that 950 sqft, there is a 25'x17' section that I want to pour thicker because of my RV and an enclosed trailer, and want to avoid cracks. 1-2' of base compacted with joints every 5-8 feet.

Looking for a ballpark on just basic grey concrete and also looking for a colored light beige with larger diamond stamps.
 

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Yeah your prob gonna be more then I said being out that way. Id figure closer to 15k
 

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It will still crack. Best you can hope for is that it happens at the control joints. I'd say $15K easy with all that new base. Maybe have fibers added to the mix too.
 

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After it cured a bit he came back and made saw cuts in all the seams, tied rebar into sidewalk and garage..
 

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I would estimate grey around $15 sq for broom finish and $18 sq ft for color diamond stamp.
 

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What are SoCal dump fees going for these days?

There's gonna be some quotes approaching $15K.
$50 a ton for clean concrete and $60 a ton for clean dirt at the local 1 to me. But there is one cheaper by him.

The 1-2' of base is going to make all the difference In price with dump fees.

How heavy is the motor home. I usually go 6" of compacted base and 6" slab with #4 @ 16" OC. But if it 60k plus bump it up to 10-12" base and 8" slab but that's $$.
 

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Most Cities will used 6” of 560-C-3250 concrete mix over compacted native with no rebar. Generally speaking that works pretty good for both residential and commercial drive approaches. They will hold up good unless sub-grade is shit.
 

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Most Cities will used 6” of 560-C-3250 concrete mix over compacted native with no rebar. Generally speaking that works pretty good for both residential and commercial drive approaches. They will hold up good unless sub-grade is shit.
City mix is big rock not pea gravel. You need a monster pump or a boom pump to pump it. Or tailgate it. La city is now requiring 4-6" compacted base under. I did 1 last year. You can look up the specs and requirements on LA city public works website. Same mix for sidewalks.
 

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$50 a ton for clean concrete and $60 a ton for clean dirt at the local 1 to me. But there is one cheaper by him.

The 1-2' of base is going to make all the difference In price with dump fees.

How heavy is the motor home. I usually go 6" of compacted base and 6" slab with #4 @ 16" OC. But if it 60k plus bump it up to 10-12" base and 8" slab but that's $$.
Motorhome is a 40' pusher, ~32k LBS.
 

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My driveway is alread demoed and hauled and I have 6-8" base down. And I want part pavers at least where my main runs under and never finalized my design. I did the math and going to cost me $12K to finish and my guys will do most all of it except I need 2 more finishers I use. I went into thinking pre covid prices.

I just left a job that is getting a paver driveway. Not sure why it's not done already. But it's in the 40k range 2200 sq ft. Headed to a job where we did the driveway 2 years ago. Only 4" thick with 2" base and it was over 35K. And I was going to sub it to my concrete buddy but he wanted $18 a ft. I did it for $15 and the dump fees killed me. I demoed and hauled it by myself with my machine.
 

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My driveway is alread demoed and hauled and I have 6-8" base down. And I want part pavers at least where my main runs under and never finalized my design. I did the math and going to cost me $12K to finish and my guys will do most all of it except I need 2 more finishers I use. I went into thinking pre covid prices.

I just left a job that is getting a paver driveway. Not sure why it's not done already. But it's in the 40k range 2200 sq ft. Headed to a job where we did the driveway 2 years ago. Only 4" thick with 2" base and it was over 35K. And I was going to sub it to my concrete buddy but he wanted $18 a ft. I did it for $15 and the dump fees killed me. I demoed and hauled it by myself with my machine.
My driveway in Parker doesn’t have any concrete. I wonder if that would make it cheaper? I’ll get a quote next year.
 

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My driveway in Parker doesn’t have any concrete. I wonder if that would make it cheaper? I’ll get a quote next year.
My Buddy Todd is the go to in Parker. His prices are very reasonable. They don't use rebar out there which saves a lot. And dumping dirt probably free or really cheap.
 

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My Buddy Todd is the go to in Parker. His prices are very reasonable. They don't use rebar out there which saves a lot. And dumping dirt probably free or really cheap.
Could you pm me his info. It’s a weird. It’s like there was concrete and they took it out. So I have dirt but it’s 4” below the garage and street level.
 

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Question for the contractors: bare with me- whats a ballpark price to redo my driveway?

The driveway is ~950 sqft total. Of that 950 sqft, there is a 25'x17' section that I want to pour thicker because of my RV and an enclosed trailer, and want to avoid cracks. 1-2' of base compacted with joints every 5-8 feet.

Looking for a ballpark on just basic grey concrete and also looking for a colored light beige with larger diamond stamps.
Go with pavers, never have to worry about cracks, plus if you spill oil or have a car leak oil, you can replace those pavers.
Pavers have plenty of color choices.
 

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I have mixed emotions about pavers, I think they look great but I have heard of horror stories driving motorhomes over them.
 

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If someone doing demo, 1-2ft of base and pouring 6in slab w rebar for 15k sign on the spot and don’t pay until complete. take daily pics because it can not be done for that. Nicks price is closer to reality
 

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Had this just done. Basically 3 car driveway with the steps that will get pavers. I’m in OC. +- $15k
That looks like some beautiful work! I’ve always said, "the price of a bad job will linger in your mouth a lot longer than the price of a good job."
 

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I have driven my 40' toyhauler over them for 5 years. Now my 36' 5th wheel for for 3 years, no problem.
Shitty companies, do shitty work.
Like most any project....quality preparation is key to a good quality finish. A proper base for the existing soil conditions and required compaction is key to Long term service life. Sounds like yours was well executed.
 

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I have mixed emotions about pavers, I think they look great but I have heard of horror stories driving motorhomes over them.
My neighbor 3 days over driveway looks like the day we installed it 17 years ago
Like most any project....quality preparation is key to a good quality finish. A proper base for the existing soil conditions and required compaction is key to Long term service life. Sounds like yours was well executed.
Compaction is Key! When it comes to pavers.
 

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I have driven my 40' toyhauler over them for 5 years. Now my 36' 5th wheel for for 3 years, no problem.
Shitty companies, do shitty work.

A motorhome weighs about twice what a 5th wheel weighs. Ours is 45K pounds. 43' Class A.
 

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If someone doing demo, 1-2ft of base and pouring 6in slab w rebar for 15k sign on the spot and don’t pay until complete. take daily pics because it can not be done for that. Nicks price is closer to reality
I didn't pay enough attention to the compacted base requirements. It could double my cost estimate.
 
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I used to hear the hot ticket to avoid cracking where RV's or heavy vehicles were gonna park (and cracking in general) was to spec the concrete as "3/4 big rock" and not even use rebar, just mesh if anything. Alot of the curb and sidewalk / flatwork done by cities back in the day was this type of mix, often without rebar - and it didn't crack!

This could be BS, but ive had a few old timers tell me this, has anyone proven this to be true?
 

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Yes Big rock with a true 6 sack mix is the way to go. But requires a big pump.

I just was texting my Pumper. 18 yards for tomorrow morning. But for sure both his pumps can't handle big rock.
 

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Yes Big rock with a true 6 sack mix is the way to go. But requires a big pump.

I just was texting my Pumper. 18 yards for tomorrow morning. But for sure both his pumps can't handle big rock.

That's the caveat. BIG PUMPS MATTER!
 

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That's the caveat. BIG PUMPS MATTER!
Probably 8-1200 setup plus yardage.

Have a approach and sidewalk to do on one coming up that requires city mix. Maybe I will just tailgate the whole driveway also and do all big rock for a test. Would have to do 2 pours though as inspector wants a cold joint between sidewalk and driveway.
 

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Probably 8-1200 setup plus yardage.

Have a approach and sidewalk to do on one coming up that requires city mix. Maybe I will just tailgate the whole driveway also and do all big rock for a test. Would have to do 2 pours though as inspector wants a cold joint between sidewalk and driveway.
How far do the truck's chutes extend to dump? I know the other issue is you can't just pull a cement truck up on somebodys property to get closer to the work lol
 

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I think like 12' with the chutes. I can ask tomorrow. The one I referred to is going to be my project house. And the approach is already cracked and sidewalk is lifted like a foot. So backing a 70k lb mixer truck over it is no problem. But not a good idea normally. A lot easier to pump them.
 

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It's funny, 3/4" crush rock used to be the standard back in the 50's, - 70's & early 80's. It always had to be wheel barrow'd into place & tamped so more labor costs. Then pea gravel and pumps took over because it was "cheaper"/ faster but not quite as durable. Rebar does little to nothing for compressive load of concrete. It's main role is to keep concrete from displacing or separating when cracks do occur. Same for block walls. Rebar helps keep the concrete filled cells of the block stack together through movement, expansion, contraction etc.
 

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I remember about 15 years ago I had a 4 yard patio extension poured with big rock, so overkill for what it was. Big ass pump for this little dinky slab.

I need to add a driveway on my current property and it will definitely be big rock.
 

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I used to hear the hot ticket to avoid cracking where RV's or heavy vehicles were gonna park (and cracking in general) was to spec the concrete as "3/4 big rock" and not even use rebar, just mesh if anything. Alot of the curb and sidewalk / flatwork done by cities back in the day was this type of mix, often without rebar - and it didn't crack!

This could be BS, but ive had a few old timers tell me this, has anyone proven this to be true?
City of LA is still a 560C3250 big rock mix. The reason for no rebar is for easier removal of concrete for maintenance repairs. I would still use a #4 rebar for a driveway. At 950 sq.f.t you'll need 74.1 pieces of 20' rebar for a 18"oc grid.
 

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I just bought number 4 earlier $12 a stick. Bought 4 pieces of #5 yesterday $58 after tax.
 

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My buddy just had concrete work done in his backyard. I don't know the total yardage, but he said four full trucks showed up. He said he paid $20K just for the concrete. I don't know how true that is....but damn!! 😲 Said that cost didn't include any of the dirt work, pump truck fees or finishers..... Just concrete. And he was told he had to pay the concrete company in advance as they wouldn't deliver without receiving payment in full. I don't know if this is the current trend or if his project was unusual..... Location was in Pomona.
 

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My buddy just had concrete work done in his backyard. I don't know the total yardage, but he said four full trucks showed up. He said he paid $20K just for the concrete. I don't know how true that is....but damn!! 😲 Said that cost didn't include any of the dirt work, pump truck fees or finishers..... Just concrete. And he was told he had to pay the concrete company in advance as they wouldn't deliver without receiving payment in full. I don't know if this is the current trend or if his project was unusual..... Location was in Pomona.
Seems off. I did this 20 yrs ago and it was between 750 and 850 per load. Can each load be 5k now, who knows but it seems they saw a sucker if true.
 

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Did he have color added or a special mix for exposed agg.

Basic gray concrete is 1650-1800 a load depending on who my Pumper orders it from. I didn't ask the price but will know in a few hours when the driver hands me the invoice.
 

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I just did 24 yards at $220 a yard, 3000psi with micro fiber. Robertson’s (🖕🏼 them) will only do 8 yard trucks to my house now because of the slight grade to get to our community. They also hit us with the short load charge and an extra fuel charge. When i did my pool 2 years ago, it was roughly $1800 a 10 yard truck.
 

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Seems off. I did this 20 yrs ago and it was between 750 and 850 per load. Can each load be 5k now, who knows but it seems they saw a sucker if true.
I kind of thought the same thing, but I didn't want to rain on his freshly poured parade. He is so excited to have it done.....it just seemed like he paid a LOT for the project. I'm waiting to hear back from him about the yardage.
 
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