My twenty-somethings kids are just, different. Anyone else noticing this?

[Badchoices03]

Our 26yo son works at a very high end retail store...makes enough to rent a condo in Costa Mesa with a roomate and go out to eat and drink almost every day....has no desire to get a 9-5 or career type job, likes the ability to switch shifts with people when he needs to...drives an old Scion TC with no interest in owning something nicer...has me do all his car maintainence so he doesnt have to pay someone to do it...I guess its what the "kids" want nowadays...

 

[hallett21]

I actually can’t stand Yellowstone! (Seriously)
Lol

Lol oh cmon have a little fun.

Alright What if we go another direction? Buffett and Gates have made billions. And in an attempt to keep politics out of this lol.

How can you amass that kind of wealth and raise your children the same way you were raised? Your children will literally be in control of nation’s policies.

Gates,Buffett,Bezos and Jobs were nobodies. So to say it can’t happen to any of us Is foolish.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I actually can’t stand Yellowstone! (Seriously)
Lol

What stone?

 

[Sharky]

That inheritance will allow them to pull cash out to buy another property. They could live pretty comfortably at a whatever job while collecting 10k a month in rent.

If these 20 yr. olds know something more than how to post pictures & videos to their smart phone then yes.

If they are like a lot of them, they are screwed. You-tube, Reddit, snapchat & instagram ain't going to show them how manage their new found wealth and protect it from being seized or taxed to oblivion.

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

I can’t say it’s good or bad- it’s just different.

When I was 27 I was married with two kids, was on my second home, and almost a decade into my chosen career path. Sixty-hour work weeks followed by boat and hot rod projects and planning the next house upgrade seemed normal.

I have two kids in their twenties, college educated with all the opportunities to succeed or excel in a familiar path. Both are single, rent rooms with friends in their chosen locations, and just kind of live life without pushing for things my generation pushed for. My son enjoys DJ’ing and being a part of the Phoenix stand-up comic world and carries a couple of jobs to cover the bills, with a smile on his face. My daughter likes the Flagstaff vibe and does just enough work to pay rent and go on whatever adventures she feels like going on with friends or by herself. She has no car on purpose because Uber is cheaper and requires her to work less, leaving more time for travel and hobbies. Both take care of themselves and never ask for anything. After a few years of watching this dynamic, it seems pretty normal for an entire generation. We’ve hosted lots of young travelers looking for farm experience. With little to their names and little holding them back- they just seem to be on a long adventure looking for a little slice of happiness. I know there are more driven kids out there who will likely slay the world with little competition, and I honestly identify more with that mindset.

I’m getting better at not wanting more for the kids and even marveling at the simplicity of their choices at times. I know just as many people my age on the path to a more simple life so it leaves me wondering if some of these kids have things figured out better than I did at that age.

Not bashing this generation that goes in either direction, just thought it might make for an interesting conversation.

Great topic Joel... I read many responses and gotta say I continue to be impressed by the level of intellect on a foolish boat forum. Thankfully I am surrounded by high functioning young folks in the 25-32 age bracket and from a general viewpoint they seem to have several common elements in their lives like; Parents still married, college educated in better institutions and religion or belief in something other than themselves [lol] Granted they come from upper income parents so the "leg up" and ability to maintain financial status does still exists however I also am seeing some of their college friends from less affluence work in both tech & realestate do quite well in growing their savings and lifestyles. I am of the opinion that this age group is having a much rougher go of it for the reasons mentioned in the thread already. I am of the opinion that the destruction of the nuclear family has caused most of this decline but kids are continuing to marry, have children and prosper albeit fewer based on data.
I'm guessing your daughter took the kid, left the ranch life and settled elsewhere for her next journey. They really do have extremely different perspectives than their parents and they've seen much more that causes these attitudes... Again, generally speaking they don't have the same hope for future that drives work ethics and promise. In many ways its quite sad but there are still many becoming quite successful.

 

[stoker]

Employing this group of people is nauseating. You are right, they know they will never get a place of their own so they only need enough money for their door dash and funkopop. Loser fucks. My old neighbors have 3 sons over 20 that live in pj pants with anime stickers on their cars they didn't buy that their dad washes for them.

I know this is RDP and its full of ballers but lets be honest how many of yall are the ones buying Brittany her new $1.4M house in orchard hills because you want them to be close to grandma and grandpa. I see a ton of handouts here to full grown adult children and its wild. /poor guy observation

You are enabling them by letting them live at home at that age. I speak from experience both for myself and my two kids, you will never succeed until you have to provide for yourself. I booted my son out of the house when he turned 20. It took him a few years to figure it out but now at 27 years old he employs over a 100 people and attributes it to tough love,

 

[YeahYeah01]

I am 36, bought 1st home at 21/22, then the next one at 27ish and married at 28, with 2 kids now. Always career focused but liked to have fun, wife is similar and is an RN with a BSN at 22. I say this because I dont know if things played out the same for me if the market didnt crash in 08, I moved out at 18 and had been renting apartments/houses with friends, but buying a home was wayyyyy out of reach so I bought boats, street bikes, dumped money into my trucks, saved a bit but nothing crazy, then the market tanked and my career was not affected by it and all of sudden I could buy a house for what I was renting for and jumped on it. This changed my outlook on a lot of things, sold the extra cars, the street bikes and the boat to make everything work. Once I had a mortgage to pay, I buckled down more at work, stopped partying as much and just grew up. Take that away and I think play out somewhat different for me.

 

[77charger]

I have a 21 and a 17 year old.

Our 26yo son works at a very high end retail store...makes enough to rent a condo in Costa Mesa with a roomate and go out to eat and drink almost every day....has no desire to get a 9-5 or career type job, likes the ability to switch shifts with people when he needs to...drives an old Scion TC with no interest in owning something nicer...has me do all his car maintainence so he doesnt have to pay someone to do it...I guess its what the "kids" want nowadays...

lol on the car maintenance my son has an older lancer and when it breaks he wants me to fix it too. He sleeps in late works late too though but just leaves part and keys on counter and expects it done.

Instead I wait til he wakes up and ask about it we go out to garage I point out what to do and what tools he needs I’ll have him do the work and I supervise. If he gets in a jam I’ll step in help out. I take this approach so he can learn and do these things without me.

One time I was gone for work his front pads needed replacing I explained part on phone he went to work I didn’t hear from him call him he later he said he got it done and knew what to cause I showed him last time.

As for my wife and I married at 25 first home at 27 and kid at 29. I worked in construction for years made enough to get by and have fun wife worked part time to haul kids around now she’s full time and I’m part time. Do enough to get by. House payment is cheap toys are older but paid and have too many hobbies. I can work more if needed but like flexible sch and able to take time I need or want. Only live once and don’t feel like slaving til I die with lot of money that was never spent.

 

[evantwheeler]

You are enabling them by letting them live at home at that age. I speak from experience both for myself and my two kids, you will never succeed until you have to provide for yourself. I booted my son out of the house when he turned 20. It took him a few years to figure it out but now at 27 years old he employs over a 100 people and attributes it to tough love,

Thats bad ass. What line of work is he in employing 100 people? Good job dad!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

If these 20 yr. olds know something more than how to post pictures & videos to their smart phone then yes.

If they are like a lot of them, they are screwed. You-tube, Reddit, snapchat & instagram ain't going to show them how manage their new found wealth and protect it from being seized or taxed to oblivion.

Actually YouTube, Reddit and Snapchat can advise them on mostly anything they would need to know or communicate about in life if they know how to find and research data.

It’s the same we are doing here now.

 

[Ultra...Good]

Great topic Joel... I read many responses and gotta say I continue to be impressed by the level of intellect on a foolish boat forum. Thankfully I am surrounded by high functioning young folks in the 25-32 age bracket and from a general viewpoint they seem to have several common elements in their lives like; Parents still married, college educated in better institutions and religion or belief in something other than themselves [lol] Granted they come from upper income parents so the "leg up" and ability to maintain financial status does still exists however I also am seeing some of their college friends from less affluence work in both tech & realestate do quite well in growing their savings and lifestyles. I am of the opinion that this age group is having a much rougher go of it for the reasons mentioned in the thread already. I am of the opinion that the destruction of the nuclear family has caused most of this decline but kids are continuing to marry, have children and prosper albeit fewer based on data.
I'm guessing your daughter took the kid, left the ranch life and settled elsewhere for her next journey. They really do have extremely different perspectives than their parents and they've seen much more that causes these attitudes... Again, generally speaking they don't have the same hope for future that drives work ethics and promise. In many ways its quite sad but there are still many becoming quite successful.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even spellcheck cannot protect you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[monkeyswrench]

I'm 46. I've never had a "career", but always had work. My goal after losing most everything in 2011, own and payoff. Maybe, after that, have some fun again.

As it turns out, life is what happens while planning for the future. Things can change drastically in a few short years.

Part of me envies these kids able to travel in their 20s. I kind of planned for the future, but when I got there, it wasn't the one I'd thought I was headed to.

I'll work till I die, but I wouldn't change my path.

 

[grumpy88]

There is another great thread recently on here about end of life care . Snorkeling in Hawaii on vacation from Starbucks at 20 equals a state run facility at the end . I think all teens should see one and smell one in person . Kind of a scared straight program .

 

[Looking Glass]

I see a lot of "Entitlement" in our Society, along with "Covid" allowing working from home, many feel that they do not need to "Come In" anymore. The Auto Workers are demanding a 4-day week and the Manufacturers are saying, that won't happen. Taking out a College Loan and then with the Help of "Brandon" feel it "Crimps" their Lifestyle to be making payments to honor their Commitment. How many young boys don't have a clue on how to do simple tasks, like change a tire, install a window blind, and on and on, and will be calling for "Service" for their entire life?

 

[PlanB]

I have a cousin that is 34. He is a lawyer and mom and dad paid for his education at UCLA and ASU. Mom and dad also helped get him a house in Tempe. He has no hobbies or desire to own anything. He only owns a car because he has to drive to work. He is not married, does not have a GF and spends his time and money traveling. I always thought he was a weird kid, but it sounds like he fits right in with his generation.

 

[C-2]

Kids that have no desire to learn how to drive. W-T-H, riddle me that one.

 

[attitude]

Kids that have no desire to learn how to drive. W-T-H, riddle me that one.

Exactly, it’s a lot easier to get laid with a license lol.

 

[EmpirE231]

Discipline!! I posted the picture earlier as a joke, but really that’s what it comes down to. Instant gratification has changed a lot of things. Not to many people are willing to put in the disciplined work, for a long time in order to get the reward at the end.

Does working all the time from the age 16 and on sound fun? Fuck no… it doesn’t… but if you are disciplined, and stick it out, and work your way up…. Owning a house, paying your bills comfortably and having fun with your family is a lot of fun.

Money = freedom, the more of it you have, the more freedom you have. We’re all slaves to the system one way or another, but the more money you make and save, the more freedom you have. The sooner you buy a home and pay it off, the more freedom you have vs paying 8k a month in rent in the future when you’re old AF lol

 

[whiteworks]

We have one kid, she’s a freshman in highschool this year. We have been on her since the beginning, work hard, study hard, make shit happen, take and make the life you want. She will be well enough employed to hire her own therapist and deal with whatever issues we gave her.

That being said I’ll back this kid 100% in any of her pursuits to build the life she wants. I’ve told her from a young age if she decides to be a cosmetologist let me know asap because I’m putting a fat boat in the harbor with her college fund

This week she wants to be an FBI profiler, I’ve done my part and taught her how to shoot and hit targets, don’t know dick about the rest of that LEO shit, but shoot first and ask questions later is what I taught her

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Discipline!! I posted the picture earlier as a joke, but really that’s what it comes down to. Instant gratification has changed a lot of things. Not to many people are willing to put in the disciplined work, for a long time in order to get the reward at the end.

Does working all the time from the age 16 and on sound fun? Fuck no… it doesn’t… but if you are disciplined, and stick it out, and work your way up…. Owning a house, paying your bills comfortably and having fun with your family is a lot of fun.

Money = freedom, the more of it you have, the more freedom you have. We’re all slaves to the system one way or another, but the more money you make and save, the more freedom you have. The sooner you buy a home and pay it off, the more freedom you have vs paying 8k a month in rent in the future when you’re old AF lol

These people look at it completely the opposite.

The more shit they have the more they are slaves to it. Freedom to them is not being burdened by possessions.

They are not wrong either, just approaching life from a different perspective.

 

[JFMFG]

I’m a strong believer in you’re only as good as the people you surround yourself with. Many of you have very solid points. I’m 31 bought first home at 26 bought second at 29. 2 kids one is 3 and one is 1 1/2. I started working and the motorcycle shop when I was 16. Once I turned 18 and graduated high school I went right into the family biz. I started at the bottom making 7.50 an hour. From there my dad told me it’s up to you of where you want to go here. I always wanted more I grew up having a certain lifestyle. We couldn’t want for anything. I learned this business from the entry level position on the production floor. I am thankful for that it taught me every single thing to where I can do any job there. 12 years later I have taken over and run it. My dad hasn’t been at work in 6 months. My wife and I do very well she is a RN with a masters degree. So many kids my age or younger feel that the influencer on social media is the route to take. I have friends that have kids and still live at home with no interest to ever move out. My wife’s brother and his gf have a child they say they’ll never be able to afford to buy a house so why even bother saving. The issue is no one has goals set of where they want to be in life. What are all these people gonna do who travel and go have fun with every dime they make. How will they ever retire?

 

[EmpirE231]

These people look at it completely the opposite.

The more shit they have the more they are slaves to it. Freedom to them is not being burdened by possessions.

They are not wrong either, just approaching life from a different

These people look at it completely the opposite.

The more shit they have the more they are slaves to it. Freedom to them is not being burdened by possessions.

They are not wrong either, just approaching life from a different perspective.

I guess those people can check in when they hit their mid fifties to see how freedom is looking then. If they’ve socked away / invested all the saved money from not owning a home or a car, then maybe they’ll have some decent net worth and can actually hit the cruise control button. From my experience, most of these people living the yolo lifestyle, traveling, renting somewhere or living at home… they aren’t the investor types.

 

[FreeBird236]

Exactly, it’s a lot easier to get laid with a license lol.

It seems to me there's quite a few that don't seem to care about that either.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Fuck these millenial bitches....they need to stay off my fucking lawn!!

 

[hallett21]

Fuck these millenial bitches....they need to stay off my fucking lawn!!

But they better pay up on Social
Security dammit.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I guess those people can check in when they hit their mid fifties to see how freedom is looking then. If they’ve socked away / invested all the saved money from not owning a home or a car, then maybe they’ll have some decent net worth and can actually hit the cruise control button. From my experience, most of these people living the yolo lifestyle, traveling, renting somewhere or living at home… they aren’t the investor types.

They said the same about the flower children. They will figure their lives out eventually or not.

There are people that will also look down on most of us for spending money and wasting time with boats, RVs, dirt toys and cars. Those funds could have been better invested, but we needed instant and constant gratification.

If I sold my toys I could have another income property or two.

 

[was thatguy]

They said the same about the flower children. They will figure their lives out eventually or not.

There are people that will also look down on most of us for spending money and wasting time with boats, RVs, dirt toys and cars. Those funds could have been better invested, but we needed instant and constant gratification.

I have to say it…
“There’s nothing instant about speed car gratification!”


Sorry!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I have to say it…
“There’s nothing instant about speed car gratification!”


Sorry!

I’ve been milking that gratification for 3 years in the heads of some people

 

[hallett21]

They said the same about the flower children. They will figure their lives out eventually or not.

There are people that will also look down on most of us for spending money and wasting time with boats, RVs, dirt toys and cars. Those funds could have been better invested, but we needed instant and constant gratification.

If I sold my toys I could have another income property or two.

And you could die with a bunch of money lol.

 

[Markus]

It is simple.

The last downturn was in 2008-2009.

They are too young to have experienced the fear of losing their job and not getting a new one.

 

[attitude]

It seems to me there's quite a few that don't seem to care about that either.

Probably best for everyone they don’t reproduce anyways

 

[PRORACER7474]

I was told 30 plus years ago that "you are not your kids friend, you are there parent and you cannot be to strict" well i bet if you talked to my 2 kids when the were 18 they would tell you a was the biggest ass in the world. Now that they are 29 and 36 we talked and see each other everyday, in fact my son built a house across the street. My daughter is a Lawyer and bought her 1st house at age 26 and my son is a accountant for the city we live in and is on on his 3rd house [besides being a 5 time NHRA world Champion]. Both have never been given any money that they have not paid back and worked and paid there way tru college by themselves. So there are some of the younger generation out there that are as driven as us older people. I think alot of it is how they are raised and how they were pushed when they were younger

 

[Pivot]

I have one of each type. I'm a bit envious of the go with the flow son.
This early 20s generation is incredibly smart. They don't stress about money like I did, and still do.
I dont fully understand it. Hard to be happy or wtf for them. I wish I could be more relaxed like they are.
My 2 sons can care less about material possessions. They don't have the same enjoyment in boats, cars, off road things that I do. They are just as happy doing things that cost a fraction.

Unfortunately there are nearly zero kids in their 20s in the building industry. Boots and hard hats kids...they are just not wired the same anymore

 

[Pivot]

We have one kid, she’s a freshman in highschool this year. We have been on her since the beginning, work hard, study hard, make shit happen, take and make the life you want. She will be well enough employed to hire her own therapist and deal with whatever issues we gave her.

That being said I’ll back this kid 100% in any of her pursuits to build the life she wants. I’ve told her from a young age if she decides to be a cosmetologist let me know asap because I’m putting a fat boat in the harbor with her college fund

This week she wants to be an FBI profiler, I’ve done my part and taught her how to shoot and hit targets, don’t know dick about the rest of that LEO shit, but shoot first and ask questions later is what I taught her


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My female neighbor is fbi investigation. Great income and career.

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

Truthfully what is wealth?

To everyone its different. the pursuit of your wealth is what the American dream is.

I know i go through antelope point marina and think damn this is wealth. But is it?

I talk to new people that are killing in crazy businesses and think that is wealth. But is it?

My wife and I have done pretty good ourselves and can provide everything our family needs and have enough to help others in need and we think this is wealth. But is it?

Wealth is what YOU make of it i suppose. Just because our goals of wealth aren't aligned doesn't mean we cant celebrate each other's successes. Just means we have different priorities.

 

[arch stanton]

I’m old enough 60 to have heard the current generation is not as hard working as the past generation many times over my life even said about my peers
My grandfather born in 1911 and his wife born in 1913 we’re married at the age of 16 and 18 they never expected to live to 102 lucile and Wayne 87 there parents didn’t and there grandparents didn’t they all worked just to survive and have food on the table life was hard and very few people knew anything other than work sun up to sun down 7 days a week on the farm.
I bet nobody’s reading this worked that hard and long so from my grandfathers point of view we are all lazy by comparison
I do wonder if the legalization of drugs helps take away some motivation to achieve more

 

[stoker]

Thats bad ass. What line of work is he in employing 100 people? Good job dad!

Credit card reconciliation and marketing.

 

[TPC]

Maynard is 22 and we go to Sunday breakfast and sit at the bar to eat.
Several girls his age are server/bartenders and they converse.

It’s a whole different world of thinking in their generation in some ways yet somethings never change.

They all concur woke sux. All hard working kids that appreciate what they earn.

None of them have watched TV since age 7.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Sadly when we had our first child she did not come with an owner's manual. Thankfully she is a productive contributor to society now 30. She was always a hard-working high-potential human, and still is. I worry that she takes on too much. Very passionate and emotional, but smart. She was a math major and now works for the state in education. Since she left the house she has not really been into our family hobbies of motorsports-related activities, she prefers backpacking and hiking. Married one kid.

Our son 27 is the polar opposite of his sister. Hardworking when required, he has not traditionally been ambitious. However, he remembers everything, listens intently well, and is an artist with a welding machine. He is a process-driven guy who won't cut corners with almost anything to gain speed. He makes twice the money our daughter makes as a welder in industrial construction (Ironworker/Pipewelder). He is addicted to adrenaline sports and material items. He carries no debt, but pretty much lives a life of total freedom. At 27 he just rented his first house. 3 bedroom 2 bath newer home, but he really only cared about the size of the garage. He did however negotiate a poison pill method of getting out of his rental agreement if he finds domestication too much of a burden. He moves around the country on a whim and is easily uprooted by a changing wind. No girlfriend, no dog, no kids.

These are the kids we raised. Society did not make them, we did. I can see everything that contributed to their personalities through our own actions. I see my best and worst traits in them both as well as my wife's. I don't think you are supposed to have your shit together when you are in your 20s. I never wanted my kids to grow up as fast as I did. I love them both and have no complaints about who they have become.

I don't know when I became an optimist, but I see good in the 20-somethings that work for me as well. I figure my role is to mentor them into productive members of the establishment. Don't sell out - Buy in.

 

[C-2]

I'm simply relieved to know we are as confused as everybody else! lol

 

[coolchange]

… Neighbor girl is 29… Sometimes she works for an employer running the office for dentists… and sometime she doesn’t currently she is taking care of her grandmother and taking care of me… But she is still chasing the big bucks. She has a partner who is a master pastry chef… may have some of their work coming on channel 5 KTLA relatively soon…
… Is she eventually going to hit it big… You never know???… She has also seen my lifestyle and knows all about it …so what I’m saying here is she knows both sides of the coin… when her grandmother passes away and she gets half of that house…And I pass away, and she gets my house. She will be a real estate millionaire… has this made her lazy… I don’t think so…She is a busy hard charging young lady… So for right now she has figured out how to not have to put up with the bullshit in a dental office???…

Hopefully you have that all legally worked out.

 

[Singleton]

You guys do realize every generation said this about the generations before them. Look what all the hippys turned into.

Every generation in the western world has been softer than the generation before it.

I see a shift.
Having a 28, 22 and a 11yo, I see changes in parenting approach.

• 28 - one of the last group of kids before everyone wins a trophy started. He grew up with the work hard, earn nice things approach and witnessed that with his mom, me and his grandfather
• 22 - everyone wins a trophy generation and it shows. His biological father thought the kid could do no wrong. No work hard, earn nice things mentality, thinks he will be given everything, Now that his biological father is MIA, he is starting to learn, hard work pays off. BUT it cost him. wife and I both think he asks like a HS JR, when he is 22. Working on that everyday.
• 11 - Back to work hard, get nice things!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I see a shift.
Having a 28, 22 and a 11yo, I see changes in parenting approach.

• 28 - one of the last group of kids before everyone wins a trophy started. He grew up with the work hard, earn nice things approach and witnessed that with his mom, me and his grandfather
• 22 - everyone wins a trophy generation and it shows. His biological father thought the kid could do no wrong. No work hard, earn nice things mentality, thinks he will be given everything, Now that his biological father is MIA, he is starting to learn, hard work pays off. BUT it cost him. wife and I both think he asks like a HS JR, when he is 22. Working on that everyday.
• 11 - Back to work hard, get nice things!

The trophy generation started way before 28 years ago.

I believe what you are seeing across this 17 years is just different parenting styles and kids coping differently with divorce and broken homes.

I don’t believe this can be distilled down to just generational norms, it still comes down to parents and individual conditions.

 

[Willie B]

Hopefully you have that all legally worked out.

… My living, trust, spells it out in detail…

 

[clarence]

Eh.

I fucked around for ten years after undergrad (playing music, travelling) before realizing I'd lived past 30 and should get serious.

There was still time to reset (go back to school) and retire early and well-off.

I wouldn't recommend it (riskier, of course), but I don't know if I'd do it differently if I could. From what I remember, it was a great time.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

The trophy generation started way before 28 years ago.

I believe what you are seeing across this 17 years is just different parenting styles and kids coping differently with divorce and broken homes.

I don’t believe this can be distilled down to just generational norms, it still comes down to parents and individual conditions.

Larry Elder on the Patrick Bet David podcast this week laid out some pretty damning evidence that speaks to your theory. The breakdown of the family is contributing to many of our society's issues.

There is plenty of evidence available that suggests how important home life is for developing minds. Starting before birth some can argue, but certainly starting the moment you enter this world and the support you receive throughout your life. Family is extremely important, and sadly we don't get to pick our parents.

White supremacy is not the number one cultural problem in this country, the breakdown of the family is.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Larry Elder on the Patrick Bet David podcast this week laid out some pretty damning evidence that speaks to your theory. The breakdown of the family is contributing to many of our society's issues.

There is plenty of evidence available that suggests how important home life is for developing minds. Starting before birth some can argue, but certainly starting the moment you enter this world and the support you receive throughout your life. Family is extremely important, and sadly we don't get to pick our parents.

White supremacy is not the number one cultural problem in this country, the breakdown of the family is.

I really enjoy the PBD podcast. I watched a couple snippets of that Larry Elder interview, but have not watched the whole thing yet.

 

[LuauLounge]

When I was in my 20's my goal was to be able to pay my bills and always have a $100 in my pocket to burn. 50 years later, still there......adjusted slightly for inflation.

 

[Singleton]

Larry Elder on the Patrick Bet David podcast this week laid out some pretty damning evidence that speaks to your theory. The breakdown of the family is contributing to many of our society's issues.

There is plenty of evidence available that suggests how important home life is for developing minds. Starting before birth some can argue, but certainly starting the moment you enter this world and the support you receive throughout your life. Family is extremely important, and sadly we don't get to pick our parents.

White supremacy is not the number one cultural problem in this country, the breakdown of the family is.

I can attest to what he said and agree with almost all of it

• 28yo - lived with my wife and me growing up. Solid home life and had normal teenage issues
• 22yo - rotated between our house and his biological fathers house. Very different parenting approaches. Since he dropped out of college and moved home part of the requirements to live at home was counseling. Part of that is group (step-son, wife and me). What we have learned, the back and forth and different parenting approaches caused issues.
• 11yo - lives with mom and dad. Normal issues

Where I am going with this. In a divided household issues occur. Where one parent is missing or both parents are not parenting, the issues have to be huge!

 

[DaveH]

Larry Elder on the Patrick Bet David podcast this week laid out some pretty damning evidence that speaks to your theory. The breakdown of the family is contributing to many of our society's issues.

There is plenty of evidence available that suggests how important home life is for developing minds. Starting before birth some can argue, but certainly starting the moment you enter this world and the support you receive throughout your life. Family is extremely important, and sadly we don't get to pick our parents.

White supremacy is not the number one cultural problem in this country, the breakdown of the family is.

you can see this in action in utah, where family is #1 priority. colledge graduation rates of 80%. utah has 1/10 the social and crime issues of most other states.