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I’m thinking.. ok we can get into that?

Simmons custom boats for the win!
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I’m thinking.. ok we can get into that?

Simmons custom boats for the win! View attachment 1343308
You could do a backflip with 600HP on that one. He doesn't need a boat like that, but I think you do! :p🤣

Dave, get a real boat that you could use in the ocean, going to Catalina or Mexico with.
The Grand Banks 38 [ Laguna ] is an awesome boat i'd want if I still lived on the coast.
It's for sale under 100K US. You could charter it when not using it.
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18 outrage would always get any of your kids home. However it’s no Simmons lol.
 

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Didn’t they lay one up using the 24 schiada mold?
 

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Wouldn't that be just awesome??

I was always SO jealous of the kid in Flipper! 🐬

My boys have their boating card and are looking forward to raging the bay in our little Klamath. No warm beaches with bikini clad girls for them though,,,
 

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Might need a little work but found one for you.

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PS. We fished a shit load growing up. Pretty much every vacation. Always enjoyed it except for what time we started. Turns out fish bite during my normal sleeping hours.
 

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Bad ass for sure. Not at Havasu though?
 
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Where's that picture of somone sitting on the scoop of "Ghost of Coldfire" with a line in the water?....

That should be Dave's motivation lol
 
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FWIW - Once met a young guy who grew up in Havasu. He still lives here. Asked him how was it growing up here. He said there was plenty of trouble to get into. All the typical things, just seemed like much more of it. He loved to fish. One afternoon while fishing at site 6 by himself a girl he was going to Havasu High with, walked up to him and began talking. She also loved to fish. Plus, she was pretty hot. They began hanging out together. Usually fishing somewhere on the lake. Now, two kids and three boats later, they were still very happily married. And they continued to enjoy fishing as a family.
 

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Hey @RiverDave . . .
If your Son is interested in getting into fishing, and you're maybe looking to get him into a 1st boat . . . seriously consider an older classic 13 Whaler.
Lots of good things about those hulls . . . #1 they're unsinkable . . . so if he forgets the drain plug, no biggie.
A couple 250 pound dudes can stand on the same side gunnel and it won't tip . . . ultra stable for a 13.
If somebody pulls a prank and yanks the drain plug, no biggie either.
Sould he 'swamp' the thing & fill it with water . . . no real biggie.
And god forbid, should he flip it she won't sink and anyone on board can climb up on the bottom to safety.
They can carry 4+ adults with gear no sweat.
Rated to 40 hp, they'll do upper 30's, and can pull an average size skier or wakeboarder up no problem.
They're built pretty damn tough for what they are, so they can take lots of abuse . . . and since there's basically zero storage, you just hose them out to clean 'em at the end of the day.
There's a ton of them out there, so finding a decent one wouldn't be a problem . . . and they hold their resale value better then any other boat that I'm aware of.
I could sell either one of our old whalers tomorow for significantly more than we paid for them.

One of the reasons I'm a Whaler Dork is that that they do a LOT of things really good, but nothing 'great . . . and they're very easy on the pocket book so they tend to get used a lot more.

Quick story about a 13.
My buddy had one in high school in the late 80's . . . one morning we anchored inside of a reef off of El Morro in Corona Del Mar to do some fishing.
We scoped way back on the anchor line and were fishing for sheephead in the rocks.
The tide dropped-out and a south swell started to fill in while we were fishing.
We could feel the swell picking up, but nothing had broken yet.
Then all of a sudden my buddy August yells 'SHIT' !!! , and we look outside to see a set coming in that's about 6 feet and it's going to break !
August jumps up on the bow and starts pulling the anchor line like crazy pulling us straight at the set wave !
We get right to about the base of the wave as it breaks right over the top of us, completely coming over the top !
The boat fills with water as we punch through the back side of the wave, the boat completely filled with water.
August pulls us out the rest of the way, then pulls the anchor . . . he yanks the bilge plug in the back of the boat, pull starts the old Yamaha 40 2-stroke and guns it . . I remember everything that was left in the boat just floating around, including the 5 gallon gas tank ! Hilarious !
All the water drained out the back and, he put the plug back in and we went about our day . . . soaking wet and laughing with a good story.

Good Times !!!!
 

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Hey @RiverDave . . .
If your Son is interested in getting into fishing, and you're maybe looking to get him into a 1st boat . . . seriously consider an older classic 13 Whaler.
Lots of good things about those hulls . . . #1 they're unsinkable . . . so if he forgets the drain plug, no biggie.
A couple 250 pound dudes can stand on the same side gunnel and it won't tip . . . ultra stable for a 13.
If somebody pulls a prank and yanks the drain plug, no biggie either.
Sould he 'swamp' the thing & fill it with water . . . no real biggie.
And god forbid, should he flip it she won't sink and anyone on board can climb up on the bottom to safety.
They can carry 4+ adults with gear no sweat.
Rated to 40 hp, they'll do upper 30's, and can pull an average size skier or wakeboarder up no problem.
They're built pretty damn tough for what they are, so they can take lots of abuse . . . and since there's basically zero storage, you just hose them out to clean 'em at the end of the day.
There's a ton of them out there, so finding a decent one wouldn't be a problem . . . and they hold their resale value better then any other boat that I'm aware of.
I could sell either one of our old whalers tomorow for significantly more than we paid for them.

One of the reasons I'm a Whaler Dork is that that they do a LOT of things really good, but nothing 'great . . . and they're very easy on the pocket book so they tend to get used a lot more.

Quick story about a 13.
My buddy had one in high school in the late 80's . . . one morning we anchored inside of a reef off of El Morro in Corona Del Mar to do some fishing.
We scoped way back on the anchor line and were fishing for sheephead in the rocks.
The tide dropped-out and a south swell started to fill in while we were fishing.
We could feel the swell picking up, but nothing had broken yet.
Then all of a sudden my buddy August yells 'SHIT' !!! , and we look outside to see a set coming in that's about 6 feet and it's going to break !
August jumps up on the bow and starts pulling the anchor line like crazy pulling us straight at the set wave !
We get right to about the base of the wave as it breaks right over the top of us, completely coming over the top !
The boat fills with water as we punch through the back side of the wave, the boat completely filled with water.
August pulls us out the rest of the way, then pulls the anchor . . . he yanks the bilge plug in the back of the boat, pull starts the old Yamaha 40 2-stroke and guns it . . I remember everything that was left in the boat just floating around, including the 5 gallon gas tank ! Hilarious !
All the water drained out the back and, he put the plug back in and we went about our day . . . soaking wet and laughing with a good story.

Good Times !!!!
Agree 100%.
 

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Hey @RiverDave . . .
If your Son is interested in getting into fishing, and you're maybe looking to get him into a 1st boat . . . seriously consider an older classic 13 Whaler.
Lots of good things about those hulls . . . #1 they're unsinkable . . . so if he forgets the drain plug, no biggie.
A couple 250 pound dudes can stand on the same side gunnel and it won't tip . . . ultra stable for a 13.
If somebody pulls a prank and yanks the drain plug, no biggie either.
Sould he 'swamp' the thing & fill it with water . . . no real biggie.
And god forbid, should he flip it she won't sink and anyone on board can climb up on the bottom to safety.
They can carry 4+ adults with gear no sweat.
Rated to 40 hp, they'll do upper 30's, and can pull an average size skier or wakeboarder up no problem.
They're built pretty damn tough for what they are, so they can take lots of abuse . . . and since there's basically zero storage, you just hose them out to clean 'em at the end of the day.
There's a ton of them out there, so finding a decent one wouldn't be a problem . . . and they hold their resale value better then any other boat that I'm aware of.
I could sell either one of our old whalers tomorow for significantly more than we paid for them.

One of the reasons I'm a Whaler Dork is that that they do a LOT of things really good, but nothing 'great . . . and they're very easy on the pocket book so they tend to get used a lot more.

Quick story about a 13.
My buddy had one in high school in the late 80's . . . one morning we anchored inside of a reef off of El Morro in Corona Del Mar to do some fishing.
We scoped way back on the anchor line and were fishing for sheephead in the rocks.
The tide dropped-out and a south swell started to fill in while we were fishing.
We could feel the swell picking up, but nothing had broken yet.
Then all of a sudden my buddy August yells 'SHIT' !!! , and we look outside to see a set coming in that's about 6 feet and it's going to break !
August jumps up on the bow and starts pulling the anchor line like crazy pulling us straight at the set wave !
We get right to about the base of the wave as it breaks right over the top of us, completely coming over the top !
The boat fills with water as we punch through the back side of the wave, the boat completely filled with water.
August pulls us out the rest of the way, then pulls the anchor . . . he yanks the bilge plug in the back of the boat, pull starts the old Yamaha 40 2-stroke and guns it . . I remember everything that was left in the boat just floating around, including the 5 gallon gas tank ! Hilarious !
All the water drained out the back and, he put the plug back in and we went about our day . . . soaking wet and laughing with a good story.

Good Times !!!!
… this… When I lived aboard …the 13 Whaler was every broke guy live aboards dream… or was it the 15 Whaler🤷🏽‍♀️
 

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Hey @RiverDave . . .
If your Son is interested in getting into fishing, and you're maybe looking to get him into a 1st boat . . . seriously consider an older classic 13 Whaler.
Lots of good things about those hulls . . . #1 they're unsinkable . . . so if he forgets the drain plug, no biggie.
A couple 250 pound dudes can stand on the same side gunnel and it won't tip . . . ultra stable for a 13.
If somebody pulls a prank and yanks the drain plug, no biggie either.
Sould he 'swamp' the thing & fill it with water . . . no real biggie.
And god forbid, should he flip it she won't sink and anyone on board can climb up on the bottom to safety.
They can carry 4+ adults with gear no sweat.
Rated to 40 hp, they'll do upper 30's, and can pull an average size skier or wakeboarder up no problem.
They're built pretty damn tough for what they are, so they can take lots of abuse . . . and since there's basically zero storage, you just hose them out to clean 'em at the end of the day.
There's a ton of them out there, so finding a decent one wouldn't be a problem . . . and they hold their resale value better then any other boat that I'm aware of.
I could sell either one of our old whalers tomorow for significantly more than we paid for them.

One of the reasons I'm a Whaler Dork is that that they do a LOT of things really good, but nothing 'great . . . and they're very easy on the pocket book so they tend to get used a lot more.

Quick story about a 13.
My buddy had one in high school in the late 80's . . . one morning we anchored inside of a reef off of El Morro in Corona Del Mar to do some fishing.
We scoped way back on the anchor line and were fishing for sheephead in the rocks.
The tide dropped-out and a south swell started to fill in while we were fishing.
We could feel the swell picking up, but nothing had broken yet.
Then all of a sudden my buddy August yells 'SHIT' !!! , and we look outside to see a set coming in that's about 6 feet and it's going to break !
August jumps up on the bow and starts pulling the anchor line like crazy pulling us straight at the set wave !
We get right to about the base of the wave as it breaks right over the top of us, completely coming over the top !
The boat fills with water as we punch through the back side of the wave, the boat completely filled with water.
August pulls us out the rest of the way, then pulls the anchor . . . he yanks the bilge plug in the back of the boat, pull starts the old Yamaha 40 2-stroke and guns it . . I remember everything that was left in the boat just floating around, including the 5 gallon gas tank ! Hilarious !
All the water drained out the back and, he put the plug back in and we went about our day . . . soaking wet and laughing with a good story.

Good Times !!!!
LOL. Good 'Ol Boston Whalers. Tough boats! And you'd better be tough too when the water gets choppy-SMACK! SMACK! SMACK! LOL. But there's maybe nothing else that's as stable, capable and tough.
I have similar experiences filling up a boat with water, than everything floating around as you work the boat up on plane and pull the plug to let the water drain out-except we did all that fun in some 15 horse powered Zodiacs. God, those were great times!
 

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If you're truly serious about fishing with your son, I'd highly recommend you hook up with Nick Young. He's a fishing guide here in Havasu. His son, Jax, often fishes with him.
 
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… Took my friend and a couple of his buddies out on my 34 foot live aboard to fish for rock cod… inside the LA Harbor breakwater… they caught nothing… And I had great fun, backing the boat within a couple of feet of the rocks… great way to spend the afternoon…👍
 

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If you're truly serious about fishing with your son, I'd highly recommend you hook up with Nick Young. He's a fishing guide here in Havasu. His son, Jax, often fishes with him.

We will probably just dabble before we go full bore into anything.. See how he likes it.

RD
 

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I don't think you want anything too nice for fishing. Serious fishing includes Blood, (sometimes yours) scales, guts, hooks, barf, spilled beer, snacks, etc. LOL

Oh I'm aware.. LOL

RD
 

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I don't think you want anything too nice for fishing. Serious fishing includes Blood, (sometimes yours) scales, guts, hooks, barf, spilled beer, snacks, etc. LOL
. . . & cigs , dip cans, spilt coffee & old cups, donut crumbs, beef jerky wrappers, fish attractant, empty cans in the splashwell clanking around, tree branches & leaves, bird shit, . . . getting me all fired up !!! . . . when are we going!?!?!?!?! 🤘 🤣 🤘 🤣 👌👌👌
 

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We will probably just dabble before we go full bore into anything.. See how he likes it.

RD
Exactly. With Nick Young you’d fish in his boat and use his fishing gear. He’s a straight up guy about your age. I think you’d like him. Good way to see how much your boy really likes it. He has info on the Internet you can check out.
 

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Exactly. With Nick Young you’d fish in his boat and use his fishing gear. He’s a straight up guy about your age. I think you’d like him. Good way to see how much your boy really likes it. He has info on the Internet you can check out.
There's Fishing and Then there's Catching.
Minimal knowledge required to fish Blue Gill, stand in the water and wait for the little bastards to bite you.
But to catch "Game Fish" and to see a young lad's eyes filled with the joy of hooking and landing a nice bass or striper, now that's really catching, not just fishing.

Catching requires the knowledge of When, Where and How, and time on the water with someone already possessing that local knowledge, can mean a young man with a passion to catch, versus a very bored lad with no desire to repeat the experience.
Most guides be it fresh or salt, especially enjoy introducing a young man or girl, to a sport they're passionate about.

Money well spent and a Great Recommendation 👋 👍
 

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I took my young daughter out fishing on a holiday weekend. We were parked at the low end of a large sandbar. This is at the Lake Martinez area of the Colorado river just above Yuma. I packed a couple of smallish fresh water rods and light test line. We rigged up with chicken skin and bread balls. That's a common bait set up down there.

The way the large sandbar had contoured itself worked to our advantage. The water coming across the sandbar sort of funneled into a narrow area then dropped off a ledge into deeper water. I watched lots of junk float by. Sandwiches, and other food was floating over this ledge. We started casting into it and letting the current take our offerings to the stripers below. This hole was packed with greedy striped bass.

One cast...one fish. It was epic. She was thrilled. We fished for a while. All catch and release. Eventually a big one hooked up on my line. It was probably 30" long and about the biggest I had seen. It flopped up and took a look at us. I think he didn't like what he saw. LOL One big twist and it snapped my line. I wasn't too sad, because I was kinda done. I had to explain to her that this was a very rare fishing day. Most of the time, you don't catch much. Sometimes you catch nuthin.
 

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For kids it’s all about the catching. That’s what they like.
 

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If he’s anything like his dad, a professional waterskiing career is not in the cards🤣

But I’m not sure RD is the productive fishing pro type either.

After Dave’s adventures with Bully, Dave should hook him up with flying lessons. I bet Wheeler has all his old training manuals from back when he was learning to fly, and I’m sure he’d cut Dave a deal, if he bought the complete set. 😁
 

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Dave,

For what it is worth, I would jump at it. I know you know all of this, but I am gonna say it anyway.
Time flies, my friend. I mean it runs at the speed of "what the heck I am 65...what happened?"
Fishing...for you it won't just be about fishing. It'll be time with your son, which is absolutely priceless.
You, and him, together...a quiet lake, a small(er) boat, and time.
Start slow but set him up for some level of success. He needs to remember they call it "fishing" not "catching" for a reason..but let him get a taste of what it is like to get a fish on. So many lessons, so much good...do it.
Things are changing again in my world, but we hope to get down the central sierras again this summer to do some fishing I will have a small boat with me, and you would be welcome to come up and hang out...
 
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