My pool is worthless!

[mesquito_creek]

Pool temp is 89 at 7:30 am and will get into the low 90s in a few hours. Got into it yesterday and it feels worse, downright gross, versus not getting into it at all. It’s a 15k gallon pool with an 8 foot deep end.

I need to remove the deep end and cut the capacity in half, down to 6-7k gallons and add a heat pump style cooler.

Anyone using a cooler to lower the temp to something enjoyable? What’s the cost to run it?


Otherwise the biggest ornamental PIA ever to waste money and time to own….

 

[Mr. C]

4-5 ice blocks. Might drop it to 86. lol.
Just float on them like mini icebergs

 

[77charger]

I hate cold water 90 sounds good to me.

 

[4Waters]

Pool temp is 89 at 7:30 am and will get into the low 90s in a few hours. Got into it yesterday and it feels worse, downright gross, versus not getting into it at all. It’s a 15k gallon pool with an 8 foot deep end.

I need to remove the deep end and cut the capacity in half, down to 6-7k gallons and add a heat pump style cooler.

Anyone using a cooler to lower the temp to something enjoyable? What’s the cost to run it?


Otherwise the biggest ornamental PIA ever to waste money and time to own….

We put a sail up over our pool in June to help keep the water temp down. Without the sail it gets into the mid to upper 80's by mid july and has gotten to 93 and with the sail it stays in the mid to upper 70's.

Some examples

 

[CLdrinker]

4-5 ice blocks. Might drop it to 86. lol.
Just float on like mini ice bergs

Don’t ever let go Jack

 

[mesquito_creek]

We put a sail up over our pool in June to help keep the water temp down. Without the sail it gets into the mid to upper 80's by mid july and has gotten to 93 and with the sail it stays in the mid to upper 70's.

Some examples

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Is this in AZ? With nighttime lows of 90 degrees, I don’t see how the basic laws of thermodynamics would stop a pool from going close to 90 regardlesss of sun exposure…. The night low basically sets your water temp

 

[DWC]

I hate cold water 90 sounds good to me.

I’m with you. Heated ours in So Cal to 86 last weekend. My back locks up in cold water. F’g hate it. I’m not looking forward to 120 degrees in Havasu this weekend. I do love the night swimming though.

 

[mesquito_creek]

I’m with you. Heated ours in So Cal to 86 last weekend. My back locks up in cold water. F’g hate it. I’m not looking forward to 120 degrees in Havasu this weekend. I do love the night swimming though.

If I could get my pool down to 86 I could charge 20 bucks an hour and there would be a line around the block to get in…

 

[Boat211]

I do have a friend in Havasu that has a chiller and heater set up on his pool. They have a temp they like so they just keep it there.

 

[Warlock1]

I'm good with the high temps as well. When we lived in S Florida the pool temp was set at 88.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

How much does the equipment influence the temps? Could you run the pump during times when the temps are cooler, for longer? Is the equipment getting baked in the sun that contributes to the increased temps? Could you fashion some type of chiller at that location? If building new could a ground source heat pump help with both summer and winter temps?

 

[mesquito_creek]

How much does the equipment influence the temps? Could you run the pump during times when the temps are cooler, for longer? Is the equipment getting baked in the sun that contributes to the increased temps? Could you fashion some type of chiller at that location? If building new could a ground source heat pump help with both summer and winter temps?

I run the pool equip during the night… when it’s 90 degrees for the low…. Pissing into the wind is what I believe it’s called!

 

[Boat 405]

Pool temp is 89 at 7:30 am and will get into the low 90s in a few hours. Got into it yesterday and it feels worse, downright gross, versus not getting into it at all. It’s a 15k gallon pool with an 8 foot deep end.

I need to remove the deep end and cut the capacity in half, down to 6-7k gallons and add a heat pump style cooler.

Anyone using a cooler to lower the temp to something enjoyable? What’s the cost to run it?


Otherwise the biggest ornamental PIA ever to waste money and time to own….

I run a chiller on mine at night during the hot times. It knocks the temp down 3-4 degrees over night. In Havasu. I have it kick on when the pool goes over 92. My pool is similar in size the deep end should help you keep the temps lower.

 

[sintax]

I do have a friend in Havasu that has a chiller and heater set up on his pool. They have a temp they like so they just keep it there.

This is the real answer

 

[86403]

Our 1970s vintage LH pool had aerators. Were they all sizzle and no steak?

 

[dezertrider]

Most people install chillers. I am told that most pools reach what the night time lows are at the time

 

[MooreMoney]

Everyone in my neighborhood has chillers on there pools. This is houston Texas.

Knocks it down about 10 degrees.

 

[Todd Mohr]

Mines at about 90, was in it for 2 hours last night, felt great and better than being inside all night. I can watch TV from my Baja Shelf, I mostly use my pool at night.

 

[BabyRay]

My nephew in Chandler has a chiller on his pool. He used it until his first electric bill came, and saw that it increased by over $400. He didn’t feel it was worth that (to each their own), so he hasn’t used it since.

 

[mesquito_creek]

Our 1970s vintage LH pool had aerators. Were they all sizzle and no steak?

they are only effective when its not humid and dry with lower night time temps... they help until the humidity moves in.

 

[RichieRich]

we have a chiller in our pool and it makes a huge difference. It will take some time to cool the entire pool, but we use it as a "cold spa" and it is amazing. we will turn the chiller on in the spa when we are at the launch ramp coming back to the house and by the time we get back the spa is perfect. Love it

 

[17 10 Flat]

Any time I hear someone say water feels good once you get use to it....that means its cold.
Close to body temp there is no getting use to it.

 

[Boat211]

This is the real answer

If I remember correctly, they keep it at 88.

 

[Racey]

Is this in AZ? With nighttime lows of 90 degrees, I don’t see how the basic laws of thermodynamics would stop a pool from going close to 90 regardlesss of sun exposure…. The night low basically sets your water temp

If you have a water feature (water fall, fountain, etc) in a dry environment you can drop the temp below ambient through accelerated evaporation.

It's called 'Wet Bulb Temperature' Basically the temperature if you take a rag soaked in ambient temp water, wrap that around a thermometer, it will cool off because of the state change to vapor from evaporation, Wet bulb temperature in dry climates can be more than 40 degrees lower than ambient.

For example the wet bulb temp in Vegas yesterday when it was 108 outside, was 63. This is the temperature you feel on your skin if it's wet and air blows over it.

This is why humid climates feel hotter, the wet bulb temp is much closer to ambient because there is less evaporation.

 

[mesquito_creek]

If you have a water feature (water fall, fountain, etc) in a dry environment you can drop the temp below ambient through accelerated evaporation.

It's called 'Wet Bulb Temperature' Basically the temperature if you take a rag soaked in ambient temp water, wrap that around a thermometer, it will cool off because of the state change to vapor from evaporation, Wet bulb temperature in dry climates can be more than 40 degrees lower than ambient.

For example the wet bulb temp in Vegas yesterday when it was 108 outside, was 63. This is the temperature you feel on your skin if it's wet and air blows over it.

This is why humid climates feel hotter, the wet bulb temp is much closer to ambient because there is less evaporation.

When I remodeled my pool 15 year ago I added aerators all around the pool creating a complete blanket of night time evap cooling. It lowers the temp about 5 degrees... From disgusting 93 to gross at 88.... lol... If I am being honest, 88 feels slightly ok for a few hours in the morning, but worthless by noon in the 90s...

 

[sonicss31]

^^^^^ Mr. Wizard has spoken. Good explanation.

 

[lbhsbz]

Everybody laughs at my shitty little walmart pool....when it gets too hot, I dump it and refill it with cool water. lol.

 

[Havasu Rehab]

Amazon.com

This might be a short term/cheap solution. Not sure if they work or not.

 

[Outdrive1]

Are you guys running aerators? I always ran one at my house in Phx.

 

[Justsomeguy]

If you have a water feature (water fall, fountain, etc) in a dry environment you can drop the temp below ambient through accelerated evaporation.

It's called 'Wet Bulb Temperature' Basically the temperature if you take a rag soaked in ambient temp water, wrap that around a thermometer, it will cool off because of the state change to vapor from evaporation, Wet bulb temperature in dry climates can be more than 40 degrees lower than ambient.

For example the wet bulb temp in Vegas yesterday when it was 108 outside, was 63. This is the temperature you feel on your skin if it's wet and air blows over it.

This is why humid climates feel hotter, the wet bulb temp is much closer to ambient because there is less evaporation.

Makes sense.

 

[Justsomeguy]

Are you guys running aerators? I always ran one at my house in Phx.

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That's what those are! I just thought it was a water feature. Ha!

 

[86403]

they are only effective when its not humid and dry with lower night time temps... they help until the humidity moves in.

Never really associated LH or AZ with humid. Maybe less dry, even in August. I once stayed at the Fujarah Hilton on the Gulf of Oman.. Couldn't see out my hotel window, it was covered in condensation. Not half as interesting as watching the Aeroflot pilots taxiing their 727-kis
across the dirt. Taxiways optional. Whole other story.

 

[Cole Trickle]

running a water feature or fountain at night when its cooler helps.

I'm good with high 80's but it does get a little warm in the 90's

 

[samsah33]

We put a sail up over our pool in June to help keep the water temp down. Without the sail it gets into the mid to upper 80's by mid july and has gotten to 93 and with the sail it stays in the mid to upper 70's.

Some examples

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I put a pool in when I bought my place, had it on the west side of my yard next to my neighbors wall of ficuses, which kept my pool shaded and in the mid-80's in the summer. Neighbors moved and the first thing the new owners did was whack down the ficus wall... Now my pool is in the sun all day long and gets in the mid-90's now... I have some plants that have since grown in so I'm finally getting some shade on it, but yeah, I like warm (from weather) pools but mid-90's is just not refreshing.

What do those sails run? Some neighbors have put those over their driveway, and I just bought the kid a car that sits in the driveway sun for most of the day...

 

[GOTTBoat]

I have a Glacier pool cooler (GPC-23) in Havasu, had MVR install it in 2010. Had to replace the motor in around 2015 and then rebuilt both motors in 2020 myself so have a spare ready to go. Salt pool so a little tougher environment for the motors being wet all the time when cooler is in use. Pool temp is 85* now but will probably go up a degree during the day. When it's 115* without the cooler the pool will be in the 90's and only feels good for a couple minutes then sucks.

 

[4Waters]

I put a pool in when I bought my place, had it on the west side of my yard next to my neighbors wall of ficuses, which kept my pool shaded and in the mid-80's in the summer. Neighbors moved and the first thing the new owners did was whack down the ficus wall... Now my pool is in the sun all day long and gets in the mid-90's now... I have some plants that have since grown in so I'm finally getting some shade on it, but yeah, I like warm (from weather) pools but mid-90's is just not refreshing.

What do those sails run? Some neighbors have put those over their driveway, and I just bought the kid a car that sits in the driveway sun for most of the day...

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I'm sure someone has a mother in law they'll toss in your pool for you.

 

[4Waters]

I'm sure someone has a mother on law they'll toss in your pool for you.

Or a cold ex wife

 

[mesquito_creek]

I have a Glacier pool cooler (GPC-23) in Havasu, had MVR install it in 2010. Had to replace the motor in around 2015 and then rebuilt both motors in 2020 myself so have a spare ready to go. Salt pool so a little tougher environment for the motors being wet all the time when cooler is in use. Pool temp is 85* now but will probably go up a degree during the day. When it's 115* without the cooler the pool will be in the 90's and only feels good for a couple minutes then sucks.

When I remodeled my pool 15 years ago I built a pad for a glacial pool cooler. I never installed one, but maybe that’s the trick. If it has the pool at 85 all day that would be a great temp…

 

[gqchris]

Im right there with ya brother. Pool is 93 and worthless in the day now. I was gonna go get some ice blocks and float around on them to mess around tommorow. I know they do nothing in actual.

Last week I had the garden hose with me in the pool and used it to spray cool water over my head.

Welcome to AZ I guess for me. Lol

 

[RVRKID]

Im right there with ya brother. Pool is 93 and worthless in the day now. I was gonna go get some ice blocks and float around on them to mess around tommorow. I know they do nothing in actual.

Last week I had the garden hose with me in the pool and used it to spray cool water over my head.

Welcome to AZ I guess for me. Lol

We used a place like this in La Quinta one year in August for the pool, they would wheel 3 or 4 300lb blocks in and it would cool the pool off then we had to do it again 2 days later but worked.

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[PlumLoco]

Are you guys running aerators? I always ran one at my house in Phx.

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When running aerator like this that blow water into the air, wouldn't that increase evaporation noticeably? Were you using just one?

 

[4Waters]

When running aerator like this that blow water into the air, wouldn't that increase evaporation noticeably? Were you using just one?

Yes

 

[mesquito_creek]

When running aerator like this that blow water into the air, wouldn't that increase evaporation noticeably? Were you using just one?

Yes… robbing Peter to pay Paul

 

[Outdrive1]

When running aerator like this that blow water into the air, wouldn't that increase evaporation noticeably? Were you using just one?

You usually run your pump at night, the evaporation is what helps cools the pool. I guarantee water evaporating is cheaper than running a chiller.

 

[SoCalDave]

If you have a water feature (water fall, fountain, etc) in a dry environment you can drop the temp below ambient through accelerated evaporation.

It's called 'Wet Bulb Temperature' Basically the temperature if you take a rag soaked in ambient temp water, wrap that around a thermometer, it will cool off because of the state change to vapor from evaporation, Wet bulb temperature in dry climates can be more than 40 degrees lower than ambient.

For example the wet bulb temp in Vegas yesterday when it was 108 outside, was 63. This is the temperature you feel on your skin if it's wet and air blows over it.

This is why humid climates feel hotter, the wet bulb temp is much closer to ambient because there is less evaporation.

Same principle as evaporative cooling towers used in manufacturing for cooling equipment.

 

[mesquito_creek]

You usually run your pump at night, the evaporation is what helps cools the pool. I guarantee water evaporating is cheaper than running a chiller.

Agreed…. But when nobody goes in you pool for weeks because it’s too hot, probably a waste of water

 

[PlumLoco]

Well when you put it like that . . .

 

[Outdrive1]

Agreed…. But when nobody goes in you pool for weeks because it’s too hot, probably a waste of water

lol We never used our pool. We went to the river every weekend. It was basically a money pit.

 

[CarolynandBob]

Never really associated LH or AZ with humid. Maybe less dry, even in August. I once stayed at the Fujarah Hilton on the Gulf of Oman.. Couldn't see out my hotel window, it was covered in condensation. Not half as interesting as watching the Aeroflot pilots taxiing their 727-kis
across the dirt. Taxiways optional. Whole other story.

Spent 106 day on the flight deck of the Kitty Hawk off the coast of Oman. Humidity was brutal.