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My place in Havasu has an HOA. Community is 50 years old and the fees are $50 annually. Was listening in on Zoom at annual meeting last week. They mentioned that short term rentals were a business and not allowed. Regular long term rentals are allowed.

Kind of surprised me as both my neighbors have STR listings.

My address was also mentioned by someone at the meeting. Recently installed some gates and fencing. Not sure if it was a positive or negative comment about the fencing. Guess I will find out if there is an issue sometime soon. Install should all be to HOA rules. However, didn’t submit to design review committee.
 

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The CC&Rs will dictate what and what isn’t allowed. The HOA will be in charge of enforcing CC&Rs. There could be amendments to the CC&Rs but those would have needed majority community approval and should show up against title. Depending on who has declarant status modifications may be able to be made to CC&Rs but my guess is if the community is older Declarant Status is not held by the developer anymore.
 

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My place in Havasu has an HOA. Community is 50 years old and the fees are $50 annually. Was listening in on Zoom at annual meeting last week. They mentioned that short term rentals were a business and not allowed. Regular long term rentals are allowed.

Kind of surprised me as both my neighbors have STR listings.

My address was also mentioned by someone at the meeting. Recently installed some gates and fencing. Not sure if it was a positive or negative comment about the fencing. Guess I will find out if there is an issue sometime soon. Install should all be to HOA rules. However, didn’t submit to design review committee.
I hate HOAs. Usually grouchy old folks that want company to their miseries. May as well be part of the Next Door bitchfest while you're at it.😄
 

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CC&R might say no businesses allowed to operate inside HOA. Since Havasu considers STR a business (requires biz license), that could be how they limit it. But it should apply to both
 

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CC&R’s are often ignored, and if they are they become unenforceable. Sometimes that’s good to know.

For example, we had a requirement for cedar roofing in our old neighborhood. I replaced my roof with asphalt shingles before I sold the house. When the guy across the street had his attorney send me a letter threatening to sue if I didn’t tear it off and redo it with cedar, I merely responded with a letter pointing out he should check out his own asphalt shingle roof. Obviously, the guy was a complete idiot. 😂
 

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My place in Havasu has an HOA. Community is 50 years old and the fees are $50 annually. Was listening in on Zoom at annual meeting last week. They mentioned that short term rentals were a business and not allowed. Regular long term rentals are allowed.

Kind of surprised me as both my neighbors have STR listings.

My address was also mentioned by someone at the meeting. Recently installed some gates and fencing. Not sure if it was a positive or negative comment about the fencing. Guess I will find out if there is an issue sometime soon. Install should all be to HOA rules. However, didn’t submit to design review committee.
Not to many communities are 50 years old in Havasu. Mobile home park or Condos on the island? 🤔
 

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The Keys has an HOA in Parker. Our HOA manages the gate, security, roads, street lights, launch ramps, parking lots etc etc. the neighborhood is divided over STR. There are investors in here that bought houses to rent out, and there are owners that can’t stand the weekenders who party till 4am every weekend and park in other peoples driveways. I personally hate the renters, there are about 80 houses in here that rent out of 250. It’s gotten out of hand imo. My neighbor has 4 houses in here that he VRBO rents. 🙄
 

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The Keys has an HOA in Parker. Our HOA manages the gate, security, roads, street lights, launch ramps, parking lots etc etc. the neighborhood is divided over STR. There are investors in here that bought houses to rent out, and there are owners that can’t stand the weekenders who party till 4am every weekend and park in other peoples driveways. I personally hate the renters, there are about 80 houses in here that rent out of 250. It’s gotten out of hand imo. My neighbor has 4 houses in here that he VRBO rents. 🙄

Generally speaking I agree that STR are like cancer for residential neighborhoods. Especially for the keys and areas like that where people come to party.

Fortunately my neighbors have limited bookings. In reality not enough to sustain the cost. The few guest that I have seen in less than a year have been quiet and respectful.
With that said there was a bag of trash out at my property line when I arrived on trash day. It wasn’t in a can and didn’t get picked up. I will probably be dealing with that here shortly.
 

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I built a gate swinging gate at my corona house. They made me take it down, submit it, and re install 😂😂 what a joke. Then they wanted to know why I wanted a gate because I wasn’t allowed to store my boat there. Hoa was a racquet.
 

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Been on a couple of HOA Boards, not because I wanted to, rather because they needed my finance/accounting help, so I volunteered. Also volunteered to coach kids baseball, basketball and soccer (of which I didn’t know shit) when they were young, because nobody else stepped up.

General rule, it’s the people who don’t volunteer to do shit that are the loudest mouths and complainers.
 

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You can just write a rent
CC&R might say no businesses allowed to operate inside HOA. Since Havasu considers STR a business (requires biz license), that could be how they limit it. But it should apply to both

Just write a renters policy that states a minimum of 90 days rental. You need a fine large enough that its a deterrent, like $1,000 each occurrence. Board approves it, done.

As for the gate, he needs to read the CCRs. They probably just want to see a plan before approving it, kind of normal. If the HOA did not provide you with the CCRs during open escrow per state law, they could be in for some shit, if you wanted to press it.
 

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The Keys has an HOA in Parker. Our HOA manages the gate, security, roads, street lights, launch ramps, parking lots etc etc. the neighborhood is divided over STR. There are investors in here that bought houses to rent out, and there are owners that can’t stand the weekenders who party till 4am every weekend and park in other peoples driveways. I personally hate the renters, there are about 80 houses in here that rent out of 250. It’s gotten out of hand imo. My neighbor has 4 houses in here that he VRBO rents. 🙄

I think its too late for you guys unless you are willing to go into a legal battle. I got it done in MR just in the neck of time.
 

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My HOA is a 12 guage 00 at the ranch 🤣
 

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In Vegas almost every neighborhood since 1990 has an HOA, this paid in a way for streets, etc. In general, all HOA prohibit rentals less than 60 days, most laws describe a STR as less than 30 days. WHY? In most states less than 30 days are hotel type regs, so if you are a problem, NO eviction needed, just get out and if the PD will arrest for trespassing. Our high rise condo is no rental less than 6 months. STR's are for the most part not allowed in Southern Nevada, very controlled.
 

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I think its too late for you guys unless you are willing to go into a legal battle. I got it done in MR just in the neck of time.
100 percent. They tried to have discussions about eliminating STR’s and we immediately get letters from other attorneys. It would be really expensive to end up in a lawsuit and the association doesn’t have that kind of money. Unless the county or state adopts some new laws restricting it, we have to live it. I think there were 10/15 houses renting when we bought 15 years ago. It’s really changed now with VRBO and AirBNB
 

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100 percent. They tried to have discussions about eliminating STR’s and we immediately get letters from other attorneys. It would be really expensive to end up in a lawsuit and the association doesn’t have that kind of money. Unless the county or state adopts some new laws restricting it, we have to live it. I think there were 10/15 houses renting when we bought 15 years ago. It’s really changed now with VRBO and AirBNB
We ran into a similar problem. We dealt with it by limiting the access to our common areas/ramp/docks during the summer for anyone who isn’t an owner or a long-term (30+ day) tenant. It wasn’t fun to go through, but it worked for our situation.

You can still STR, but no access to the cool stuff.
 

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I will say my neighborhood is noticeably nicer (IMO) than the one south of us. Guessing the HOA is at least partially responsible for that.

CC&R’s did mention the design review process prior to doing improvements, including fence work.

I was on a mission while the weather was cooler to get some outside projects completed. It was bit of a test to see what I could get away with. 😁

Could never deal with an HOA at my primary home. Think it’s probably a good thing overall for the vacation home.
 
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