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I believe that Delta is also going to do the same thing Southwest is doing and charge $200 more per month for your medical insurance until you get the jab.

I’d take my chances with no jab and litigation for back pay. It would be an absolute slam dunk if we didn’t have a corrupt judiciary.

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Complete bullshit what these companies are attempting.
 

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But what about all the citizens of Chicago defying the city's anti murder mandate?
The Boyz in Chi town have thrown caution to the wind and are on a stunning pace not seen since the benchmark 1996 killing jamboree!
While the 687 murders themselves are impressive, one must really stand up and take notice of the 3787 total shot counting the dead and wounded. That’s some serious gun play and some double seriously poor shots on target.
Imagine if the Boyz actually aimed while discharging their legally registered and totally compliant weapons!

Still, they need roughly 100 more bodies before years end to set the new mark, and if they’d just level off a bit and improve on that dismal 18% kill ratio, I’m sure they could easily take the gold...considering a person is shot every hour and fifty minutes.


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The Boyz in Chi town have thrown caution to the wind and are on a stunning pace not seen since the benchmark 1996 killing jamboree!
While the 687 murders themselves are impressive, one must really stand up and take notice of the 3787 total shot counting the dead and wounded. That’s some serious gun play and some double seriously poor shots on target.
Imagine if the Boyz actually aimed while discharging their legally registered and totally compliant weapons!

Still, they need roughly 100 more bodies before years end to set the new mark, and if they’d just level off a bit and improve on that dismal 18% kill ratio, I’m sure they could easily take the gold...considering a person is shot every hour and fifty minutes.


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Changing gears to efficient shooting tools, I saw PSA had the AK-V back in stock. Yours and other reviews are very compelling.
 

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A lot of what is happening is people who got the jab now realize they have been duped and most likely will have a lot of health issues going forward from this non descript serum that has been pumped into their blood stream. They want to drag everyone down with them which is why the pro covid vax people are soo aggressive about it.
 

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Same here, just got the email 20 mins ago. Going to file an accommodation for a religious exemption per my sincerely held beliefs.
Is Saint Robby’s writing exemptions based on reservation numbers 🤣. Kidding aside. That really sucks. I have not been given the vax or ax notification yet, so I wait.
 

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My new job just dropped the email today, Dec 8th. 😡
I read this and was at a loss for words then. Every post prior and since, my Heart bleeds for my Brethren at yet another slice in the Death by A Thousand Cuts. Godspeed. Stay Strong. Semper Fidelis.
 

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My wife was in a similar circumstance…work forced her hand. She got the J&J and was really tired the next day…that was the only side effect.

Such bullshit…not sure what I will do if I am forced to do it. I am not anti vax, I had it, it was a bad chest cold but I survived. Who am I risking by skipping a therapeutic?
 

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I have a full physical on November 5th, already scheduled. I'm job hunting but won't take a pay cut. If I can't find anything by then I'll get the J&J because it is closest to the flu shot. I'm not anti vax, my shot record is very long from the Corps. I'm furious over being forced to over an EO, not an actual law.
I'm also going to research how to write up a religious exemption.
 

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I have a full physical on November 5th, already scheduled. I'm job hunting but won't take a pay cut. If I can't find anything by then I'll get the J&J because it is closest to the flu shot. I'm not anti vax, my shot record is very long from the Corps. I'm furious over being forced to over an EO, not an actual law.
I'm also going to research how to write up a religious exemption.
I have some links already I can share with you.
 

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Anybody getting forced to get vaxed should schedule a full physical prior to the shot. I'm doing it just in case our mandates actually go through.

I have a full physical on November 5th, already scheduled. I'm job hunting but won't take a pay cut. If I can't find anything by then I'll get the J&J because it is closest to the flu shot. I'm not anti vax, my shot record is very long from the Corps. I'm furious over being forced to over an EO, not an actual law.
I'm also going to research how to write up a religious exemption.

Get a clotting factor test, if the test finds that you have even slight issues with developing clots that will be a medical exemption.
 

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I have a full physical on November 5th, already scheduled. I'm job hunting but won't take a pay cut. If I can't find anything by then I'll get the J&J because it is closest to the flu shot. I'm not anti vax, my shot record is very long from the Corps. I'm furious over being forced to over an EO, not an actual law.
I'm also going to research how to write up a religious exemption.
I'm right there with you. Can't afford to not get paid long term, couple months no brainer, but it would start to get real interesting if it went longer without any pay. If I have to get it, and I'm one of the unfortunate ones that has a bad reaction, I want my family to have every ability to sue the shit out of those at the top actually forcing the mandate.
 

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Get a clotting factor test, if the test finds that you have even slight issues with developing clots that will be a medical exemption.
My hemoglobin gets high if I dont donate blood to the American Red Cross about 3 times per year. I thought that would be a valid reason for a medical exemption and so far not a good enough reason from my doctor.
 

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My hemoglobin gets high if I dont donate blood to the American Red Cross about 3 times per year. I thought that would be a valid reason for a medical exemption and so far not a good enough reason from my doctor.
It's platelets that cause clots, all 3 "vaccine's" have caused clots to people and almost every one of those people had clotting issues.
 

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Raytheon Technologies' (RTX.N) top boss warned on Tuesday the U.S. aerospace and defense firm will lose 'several thousand' employees who refused to take COVID-19 vaccines, as it prepares to meet the Biden administration's Dec. 8 deadline for immunization.

"We will lose several thousand people," Raytheon Chief Executive Greg Hayes said in a CNBC interview on Tuesday, adding that staff hiring was underway. The company has a total of 125,000 U.S. employees.
 

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Raytheon Technologies' (RTX.N) top boss warned on Tuesday the U.S. aerospace and defense firm will lose 'several thousand' employees who refused to take COVID-19 vaccines, as it prepares to meet the Biden administration's Dec. 8 deadline for immunization.

"We will lose several thousand people," Raytheon Chief Executive Greg Hayes said in a CNBC interview on Tuesday, adding that staff hiring was underway. The company has a total of 125,000 U.S. employees.

I will have the check with my Neice if they are pushing her. She moved out of state and is working remotely. I bet they are pressuring her too.
 

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Nice, now you need to be vaxxed, wear a mask and be at home alone...
A paper mask does nothing to filter the air...
A vax that does not protect you...
And limited interaction with coworkers, only through networks that are most likely monitored...

Sounds great, doesn't it?
 

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My hemoglobin gets high if I dont donate blood to the American Red Cross about 3 times per year. I thought that would be a valid reason for a medical exemption and so far not a good enough reason from my doctor.
Why is it that Doctors are scared to challenge this bullshit? It doesnt take a medical degree to realize that you are a risk with clotting. WTF is going on here? Pharmacists, Doctors, CEO's , they are all scared shitless to stand up to this.
 

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Why is it that Doctors are scared to challenge this bullshit? It doesnt take a medical degree to realize that you are a risk with clotting. WTF is going on here? Pharmacists, Doctors, CEO's , they are all scared shitless to stand up to this.

This is from fear of the woke mob.
 

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UPDATE: My religious exemption was approved. Basically, I have to wear a mask and social distance. I do however, expect it to stick around as a requirement even if they drop it for the vaxxed. If that is the case, I will continue to wear a mask, but it will have a Star of David on it. They want to single out the religious as unclean, fine, I'll call them out on their BS with silent protest. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
 

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UPDATE: My religious exemption was approved. Basically, I have to wear a mask and social distance. I do however, expect it to stick around as a requirement even if they drop it for the vaxxed. If that is the case, I will continue to wear a mask, but it will have a Star of David on it. They want to single out the religious as unclean, fine, I'll call them out on their BS with silent protest. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Could you share what wording you used for your religious exemption? I am putting mine together.
 

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Could you share what wording you used for your religious exemption? I am putting mine together.
Here it is in all it's wordy-ness. I threw the short version up front and then basically said let me explain.


I am a Christian. I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Each of the available Covid-19 vaccines used aborted fetal tissue during development, testing and/or production. To receive a vaccine to protect myself at the cost of an innocent life is morally reprehensible to me. To put it more formally: for the reasons explained in the subsequent paragraphs, as a Christian, partaking in a vaccine made from aborted fetuses makes me complicit in an action that offends my religious faith. As such, I cannot, in good conscience and in accord with my religious faith, take any such Covid vaccine at this time. Please provide a reasonable accommodation to my belief, as I wish to continue to be a good employee, helpful to the team.

I can explain my position in detail, and if you choose to keep reading, I will. I have done a lot of research, and I am standing my ground. In fact, if we could have this conversation in person, that would be greatly preferred and you would likely understand my perspective better than paragraphs of quoted scripture.

Each of the manufacturers of the Covid-19 vaccines currently available developed and/or confirmed their vaccines using fetal cell lines, primarily HEK-293, which originated from aborted fetuses. J&J used an aborted fetal cell line in manufacturing its Covid-19 vaccine, while Moderna and Pfizer used aborted fetal cell lines in testing the efficacy of their vaccines.

I believe the Bible to be the living Word of God provided to us as guidance on how to live to bring glory to God. 2 Timothy 3:16 – “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” As a Christian, the Bible is foundational to my faith, and I try to live my life accordingly. The Bible teaches against abortion and that it amounts to nothing less than the taking of a human life created by God. Although abortion is commonly seen as a political topic, to me, it is far more, as it is literally a matter of life and death according to God's Word. The sacred nature of life and the commands against taking innocent life are very clear. The Bible explicitly speaks of God’s plan and purpose for every unborn life. God knows us before we are even conceived. Jeremiah 1:4-5 – The word of the Lord came to me, saying, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.” God’s is at work while we are growing in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 – For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. The 10 Commandments state murder, the taking of innocent human life, is a sin. Exodus 20:131 – You shall not murder. Proverbs 6:16-17 it states there are six things the Lord hates, one of them being hands that shed innocent blood. In addition, Jesus Himself said “Even so it is not the will of your Father in heaven that one of these little ones should perish" (Matthew 18:14). Aborted fetal cell lines were used in the research and testing of all three Covid vaccines. Receiving a vaccine in any way connected to abortion would be complying with an action the Bible says the Lord hates.

The use of these types of vaccines is morally unacceptable to me. The Bible teaches in Romans 2:15 that our “consciences bear witness” as to what God requires of His followers. Acts 24:16 tells us to “take pains and have clear conscience towards both God and man.” There is not an argument that can be made that will convince me there is ever a "greater good" that can justify the murder of the unborn to God. What this means is that being vaccinated with any of the currently available Covid-19 vaccines would make me complicit in abortion. I cannot reconcile that with God. Can you?

A separate issue for me is the instruction to abstain from contaminating my body with substances that may be threatening to my bodily health. In so doing, I am to avoid introducing unnecessary drugs and chemicals of all kinds into my body. This direction is the same reason I have no tattoos, no piercings, do not drink in excess, do not smoke, and have never even sampled recreational drugs regardless of legal status. Why, then, would I accept injecting the byproduct of murdered children?
1 Corinthians 3:16-17 states “Don’t you know they you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.” In addition, 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 states, “Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore, honor God with your bodies.” I trust in God’s perfect design of my body. The vaccine by design alters the DNA.
To me, this issue is similar to others eating "clean" vs. “unclean” food. Orthodox Jews do not eat non-kosher foods. No one in the United States is required to consume a substance contrary to their faith. Few will argue that plenty of non-kosher foods are completely healthy, but religious faith compels certain individuals to decline their consumption. Even if the non-kosher food was the best or most efficient option to obtain certain nutrients, it would not be enough to justify and order to ignore their faith and compel them to consume the unclean food. Orthodox Jews still get all of the necessary nutrients without compromising their health or faith. In the same manner, certain individuals can decline the Covid-19 vaccine without compromising health or faith. I am one of those individuals who chooses to follow the Word of God and will not compromise my values or my commitment to God.

The Bible says as Christians, we are not to submit to any governing authority or policy that is contradictory to God’s Word. (See the Book of Daniel, Acts 5:27-29, and 1 John 2:4) “You are to have no other God’s before me.” We are to keep God’s commands even in the face of policy that forbids it, (Daniel 6:7-10) God is not anti-medicine. I am not anti-vaccine, and have had the same vaccinations that most of us had growing up, as have all of my children. If I have made an error along the way and unintentionally taken something I shouldn't have, it was only through ignorance and I will seek forgiveness. I will not, however, knowingly violate God's will. My personal religious beliefs require me to reject abortion, to reject emphatically any attempt at personal benefit from the killing of an unborn child, and to keep my body clean as a temple to the Holy Spirit. I cannot and will not sacrifice my personal beliefs simply to comply with the compelled vaccination policy. I have a responsibility to honor the Lord through my body and choices, and that is why I am submitting this request for religious exemption.
For the reasons stated above, I am requesting a religious accommodation, under Title VII and the Fair Employment and Housing Act that will excuse me from having to receive a Covid-19 vaccine. Lastly, I request that no adverse employment action be taken against me no account of my religious beliefs. Thank you for your consideration.
 

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Here it is in all it's wordy-ness. I threw the short version up front and then basically said let me explain.


I am a Christian. I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Each of the available Covid-19 vaccines used aborted fetal tissue during development, testing and/or production. To receive a vaccine to protect myself at the cost of an innocent life is morally reprehensible to me. To put it more formally: for the reasons explained in the subsequent paragraphs, as a Christian, partaking in a vaccine made from aborted fetuses makes me complicit in an action that offends my religious faith. As such, I cannot, in good conscience and in accord with my religious faith, take any such Covid vaccine at this time. Please provide a reasonable accommodation to my belief, as I wish to continue to be a good employee, helpful to the team.

I can explain my position in detail, and if you choose to keep reading, I will. I have done a lot of research, and I am standing my ground. In fact, if we could have this conversation in person, that would be greatly preferred and you would likely understand my perspective better than paragraphs of quoted scripture.

Each of the manufacturers of the Covid-19 vaccines currently available developed and/or confirmed their vaccines using fetal cell lines, primarily HEK-293, which originated from aborted fetuses. J&J used an aborted fetal cell line in manufacturing its Covid-19 vaccine, while Moderna and Pfizer used aborted fetal cell lines in testing the efficacy of their vaccines.

I believe the Bible to be the living Word of God provided to us as guidance on how to live to bring glory to God. 2 Timothy 3:16 – “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” As a Christian, the Bible is foundational to my faith, and I try to live my life accordingly. The Bible teaches against abortion and that it amounts to nothing less than the taking of a human life created by God. Although abortion is commonly seen as a political topic, to me, it is far more, as it is literally a matter of life and death according to God's Word. The sacred nature of life and the commands against taking innocent life are very clear. The Bible explicitly speaks of God’s plan and purpose for every unborn life. God knows us before we are even conceived. Jeremiah 1:4-5 – The word of the Lord came to me, saying, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.” God’s is at work while we are growing in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 – For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. The 10 Commandments state murder, the taking of innocent human life, is a sin. Exodus 20:131 – You shall not murder. Proverbs 6:16-17 it states there are six things the Lord hates, one of them being hands that shed innocent blood. In addition, Jesus Himself said “Even so it is not the will of your Father in heaven that one of these little ones should perish" (Matthew 18:14). Aborted fetal cell lines were used in the research and testing of all three Covid vaccines. Receiving a vaccine in any way connected to abortion would be complying with an action the Bible says the Lord hates.

The use of these types of vaccines is morally unacceptable to me. The Bible teaches in Romans 2:15 that our “consciences bear witness” as to what God requires of His followers. Acts 24:16 tells us to “take pains and have clear conscience towards both God and man.” There is not an argument that can be made that will convince me there is ever a "greater good" that can justify the murder of the unborn to God. What this means is that being vaccinated with any of the currently available Covid-19 vaccines would make me complicit in abortion. I cannot reconcile that with God. Can you?

A separate issue for me is the instruction to abstain from contaminating my body with substances that may be threatening to my bodily health. In so doing, I am to avoid introducing unnecessary drugs and chemicals of all kinds into my body. This direction is the same reason I have no tattoos, no piercings, do not drink in excess, do not smoke, and have never even sampled recreational drugs regardless of legal status. Why, then, would I accept injecting the byproduct of murdered children?
1 Corinthians 3:16-17 states “Don’t you know they you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.” In addition, 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 states, “Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore, honor God with your bodies.” I trust in God’s perfect design of my body. The vaccine by design alters the DNA.
To me, this issue is similar to others eating "clean" vs. “unclean” food. Orthodox Jews do not eat non-kosher foods. No one in the United States is required to consume a substance contrary to their faith. Few will argue that plenty of non-kosher foods are completely healthy, but religious faith compels certain individuals to decline their consumption. Even if the non-kosher food was the best or most efficient option to obtain certain nutrients, it would not be enough to justify and order to ignore their faith and compel them to consume the unclean food. Orthodox Jews still get all of the necessary nutrients without compromising their health or faith. In the same manner, certain individuals can decline the Covid-19 vaccine without compromising health or faith. I am one of those individuals who chooses to follow the Word of God and will not compromise my values or my commitment to God.


The Bible says as Christians, we are not to submit to any governing authority or policy that is contradictory to God’s Word. (See the Book of Daniel, Acts 5:27-29, and 1 John 2:4) “You are to have no other God’s before me.” We are to keep God’s commands even in the face of policy that forbids it, (Daniel 6:7-10) God is not anti-medicine. I am not anti-vaccine, and have had the same vaccinations that most of us had growing up, as have all of my children. If I have made an error along the way and unintentionally taken something I shouldn't have, it was only through ignorance and I will seek forgiveness. I will not, however, knowingly violate God's will. My personal religious beliefs require me to reject abortion, to reject emphatically any attempt at personal benefit from the killing of an unborn child, and to keep my body clean as a temple to the Holy Spirit. I cannot and will not sacrifice my personal beliefs simply to comply with the compelled vaccination policy. I have a responsibility to honor the Lord through my body and choices, and that is why I am submitting this request for religious exemption.
For the reasons stated above, I am requesting a religious accommodation, under Title VII and the Fair Employment and Housing Act that will excuse me from having to receive a Covid-19 vaccine. Lastly, I request that no adverse employment action be taken against me no account of my religious beliefs. Thank you for your consideration.

Thank you very much for this.
 

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Well if more people are forced from their jobs that's more people forced to be dependent on government! That's their plan while lining their pockets with "backdoor" money.

If you resist, they will make it harder and harder for you to get goods and services while charging you more, i.e. medical insurance, covid tests, home schooling kids and so on. They are not backing down and neither should anyone on the opposite side. It seems like little by little strides are being made against them and people should continue to do so.
 
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