My employer dropped the ultimatum.

[was thatguy]

I completely agree.

Some believe in their mandates while belittling others mandates.

If we’re against mandates, we should be against mandates.

That should go for all vaccines, shots or other treatments.

Are you actually arguing with yourself now?

 

[530RL]

Are you actually arguing with yourself now?

I’ve never been for any government mandates.

It is you and your friends who are for mandates that they like and against those mandates they do not.

 

[wzuber]

Following the logic of an unvaccinated person only risks their own health, why do schools or parents want other kids in the school to be vaccinated for measles, polio and a dozen other diseases where vaccines are required.

Same logic should apply.

So...your vasectomy only works if I get one too??? Lol
Ignorant!!!!!

 

[530RL]

So...your vasectomy only works if I get one too??? Lol
Ignorant!!!!!

LOL

My argument is the exact opposite. If one is against vaccine or shot mandates it should apply to all. No one should be forced by the government to get any vaccine or shot at any time or for any purpose.

 

[RitcheyRch]

Can confirm. It was expressed in "the letter" we received.

Received the same letter. Vaccinate by Dec 8th.

 

[stokerwhore]

Received the same letter. Vaccinate by Dec 8th.

i like the way the link in the letter didn't go to the executive order like it was labeled but to the Dumb fuck's "action plan"
here's the order:

Executive Order on Ensuring Adequate COVID Safety Protocols for Federal Contractors | The White House

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Federal Property and

www.whitehouse.gov

and if i read this right section 7 exempts the feds(congress) from getting the so called vax and excuses them from liability?

Sec. 7. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR.

THE WHITE HOUSE,

September 9, 2021

I keep my eye out for employers religeous exemption info but other than that looks like im out of a job.

 

[was thatguy]

I’ve never been for any government mandates.

It is you and your friends who are for mandates that they like and against those mandates they do not.

Huh?

 

[Ziggy]

SIl works for a major aero-space in Cali... Word on the yard (rumor) is that the Feds are are gonna require vax for all Fed contractors...

i.e. Northrop, Lockeed, Boeing, etc

But I would assume the Biden 100 employee mandate (as requested) would encompass that as well....

My son works for a DOD contractor and that company has mandated it by mid-dec.
.
Close friend is an design engineer at a big Aerospace company in Tucson. Sounds like mandate is coming at him soon too...but he may walk...dunno for sure.

 

[regor]

My son works for a DOD contractor and that company has mandated it by mid-dec.
.
Close friend is an design engineer at a big Aerospace company in Tucson. Sounds like mandate is coming at him soon too...but he may walk...dunno for sure.

Approved Version Of Pfizer's COVID-19 Vaccine Still Not Available In US​

Officials in 19 states confirmed this week they have not received the approved version, known as Cominarty. So did pharmacies in New York, California, and Missouri.

A Pfizer spokesperson told The Epoch Times in an email that there are no doses of Cominarty in the United States as of Oct. 12.

The lack of availability means vaccine mandates based on the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval are unlawful, lawyers representing clients challenging the requirements say.

“Under the emergency use authorization, everyone has an option to accept or refuse the product. And that means every person, military and civilian. So this is critical. All of the mandates, from the military to the civilian population, are violating federal law,” Mathew Staver, chairman of Liberty Counsel, a Christian legal group, told The Epoch Times.

The situation would be different if Cominarty was available, he said.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

@530RL
Are you going to answer my question in post 33?

 

[HTTP404]

LOL

My argument is the exact opposite. If one is against vaccine or shot mandates it should apply to all. No one should be forced by the government to get any vaccine or shot at any time or for any purpose.

Listen to Socrates people!

 

[Wedgy]

The explosive comeback evidenced by growth afterwards, showed the Fed that lockdowns aren't efficient enough to hollow out the middle class. Exec order on Vax to complete the job. Forcing private enterprise to do the dirty work. The three branches of Swamp are exempt, but not the Military.

Willing to eliminate our jobs, which will eliminate flow of $ into the U.S. Treasury of tax revenue on earned income, by default.
Says an awful lot about intent. Where is all the money coming from if no one works anymore? Looks they want default to me.

The NWO needs the U.S. neutered. I guess "They," know exactly what they are doing.

Misss the good old days, back when:
The two high end mainly residential, some commercial, LA Union Tile contractors I worked for treated the Rank and File very well. Because they knew who earned them the money. Gone now. 2008 killed them both off.

Big Mike can take the great reset button and shove that up Obama's ass...

 

[Rogers Hopeful]

my employer required fully vaxxed by 11/22. Get vaxxed or get axed. I got pfizer today. I don't have a skill that can pay me what i make now to support my family. Never thought I would be forced to do something to keep my job and the Union just stood by and did nothing...

 

[charred1]

my employer required fully vaxxed by 11/22. Get vaxxed or get axed. I got pfizer today. I don't have a skill that can pay me what i make now to support my family. Never thought I would be forced to do something to keep my job and the Union just stood by and did nothing...

Man, sorry to hear that! In the same boat. Both me and my wife work for the city of San Diego and our unions rolled. We have until Dec. 1.

 

[Rogers Hopeful]

Man, sorry to hear that! In the same boat. Both me and my wife work for the city of San Diego and our unions rolled. We have until Dec. 1.

Our last day for Pfizer is Monday to be fully vaccinated. And unions haven’t said anything and company is gonna cancel routes if it has to fire people. I’m low enough in seniority I might be screwed either way

 

[charred1]

Our last day for Pfizer is Monday to be fully vaccinated. And unions haven’t said anything and company is gonna cancel routes if it has to fire people. I’m low enough in seniority I might be screwed either way

You did what you had to do to support your family…no shame in the game!

 

[Wedgy]

Sucks, faced with what should be a Constitutionally protected Civil Right, we must acquiesce to Tyranny.
Did I hear today, that Kaiser Permanente was going to Strike? Godspeed to ALL my Union Brothers.

Live Better Work Union. Sure doesn't translate into, Boys down at the Hall Got Your Back. More like, Watch Your Back. Don't bother reaching out to the I.U. "Oh, that's a "Local." problem.

 

[retaocleg]

get the shot, to protect those that got the shot, and arent protected by the shot?

 

[intense]

Our last day for Pfizer is Monday to be fully vaccinated. And unions haven’t said anything and company is gonna cancel routes if it has to fire people. I’m low enough in seniority I might be screwed either way

Who do you work for?

 

[Rogers Hopeful]

Who do you work for?

national railroad passenger corporation

 

[Kachina26]

national railroad passenger corporation

I thought you were being catty, I didn't realize that was actually the name of that employer until I Googled it.

 

[94Nautique]

What about the freedoms of the restaurant owner, the theme park owner, the cruise line owner, the plane owner or the school owner. What about their freedoms being infringed?

Are only your freedoms important?

What’s next, you will advocate for a mandate that bakeries must bake a cake for a gay wedding?

Are you high? Honest question.

 

[RitcheyRch]

My friend Matt works for the City of LA as a trash truck driver. He will not be getting the jab and his last day is at the end of Nov. He has worked for the city for 21 years.

 

[4Waters]

What about the freedoms of the restaurant owner, the theme park owner, the cruise line owner, the plane owner or the school owner. What about their freedoms being infringed?

Are only your freedoms important?

What’s next, you will advocate for a mandate that bakeries must bake a cake for a gay wedding?

WOW! You completely missed my point and twisted it like a good liberal, you have officially taken squeezers spot for dumbest person on the internet. Re-read my post.

 

[4Waters]

Are you high? Honest question.

He totally missed my point. SMH

 

[Wedgy]

Any SoCal Kaiser Permanente Union worker who can confirm the coming strike that made news this morning in West Texas? What Local? I'll ask my LA Local to support this, if true. I'm all in. Finally, a Local with Balls.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Those are tried and true vaccines, this covid shot is not, if it was a real vaccine with real R&D stage 3 testing done 3-5 years before it's release then I'd be willing to talk. Those people that think those other vaccines are a risk then that is their choice and they are still able to go to a restaurant, theme park, get on a plane, go to school...... without the vaccines, their freedoms have not been infringed upon.


What else you got dumb ass?!!!

I completely agree.

Some believe in their mandates while belittling others mandates.

If we’re against mandates, we should be against mandates.

That should go for all vaccines, shots or other treatments.

I agree with 530 here. NO vaccine of any sort should be forced. Vaccines by definition only protect the recipient so where is the benefit to the public by forcing someone to protect themselves? Then add into the equation that the CV19 "vaccines" are NOT vaccines and there is ZERO public benefit to mandating them.

Unfortunately Dan, you're wrong on the existing vaccines laws and there is a lot of evidence to show there are some substantial side effects with the current method of vaccine schedule and delivery. In California a child CANNOT go to a state funded school without being fully vaccinated against the list of diseases that were passed into law in 2016 (I believe that's when it was passed). At that time the state eliminated the religious and personal beliefs exemptions. So yes, NOT having the traditional vaccines would prevent someone from doing certain things, including many home schooling programs as well.

 

[just_floatin]

Current and Forecasted strikes in the USA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1448306366943215623

 

[Wedgy]

I agree with 530 here. NO vaccine of any sort should be forced. Vaccines by definition only protect the recipient so where is the benefit to the public by forcing someone to protect themselves? Then add into the equation that the CV19 "vaccines" are NOT vaccines and there is ZERO public benefit to mandating them.

Unfortunately Dan, you're wrong on the existing vaccines laws and there is a lot of evidence to show there are some substantial side effects with the current method of vaccine schedule and delivery. In California a child CANNOT go to a state funded school without being fully vaccinated against the list of diseases that were passed into law in 2016 (I believe that's when it was passed). At that time the state eliminated the religious and personal beliefs exemptions. So yes, NOT having the traditional vaccines would prevent someone from doing certain things, including many home schooling programs as well.

I see the point. However, Real Vaxes aside. Covid Vax has turned We the People into an actual Herd of Cash Cows. that's the current event difference at the fore here and now, that will destroy America. Milking us into oblivion. But hey. No mean Tweets, right?

To your Point, Dear Gentlemen. When the unvaxed at ALL, Hordes of Illegals currently here and still coming reach 3 million plus.
Equaling 1% of the US pop. We'll see how long it takes to infect nationwide with all the eradicated diseases that we seldom now see. We will see.

 

[regor]

Stand your fucking ground and get like minded co-workers to do the same!!!!!

 

[4Waters]

I agree with 530 here. NO vaccine of any sort should be forced. Vaccines by definition only protect the recipient so where is the benefit to the public by forcing someone to protect themselves? Then add into the equation that the CV19 "vaccines" are NOT vaccines and there is ZERO public benefit to mandating them.

Unfortunately Dan, you're wrong on the existing vaccines laws and there is a lot of evidence to show there are some substantial side effects with the current method of vaccine schedule and delivery. In California a child CANNOT go to a state funded school without being fully vaccinated against the list of diseases that were passed into law in 2016 (I believe that's when it was passed). At that time the state eliminated the religious and personal beliefs exemptions. So yes, NOT having the traditional vaccines would prevent someone from doing certain things, including many home schooling programs as well.

I agree no vaccine should be mandatory but you don't need to be vaccinated against polio, measles, mumps, chicken poks....... to go to Disneyland or the movies....... but they want to to have a 12 month old vaccine to do those things, my argument is then they can't do any of that without those other vaccines as well. I mean it's all or nothing right. You're vaccinated against everything or you can't go out to eat, go to a theme park, get on a plane...... or you don't mandate anything and let people be free.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

I agree no vaccine should be mandatory but you don't need to be vaccinated against polio, measles, mumps, chicken poks....... to go to Disneyland or the movies....... but they want to to have a 12 month old vaccine to do those things, my argument is then they can't do any of that without those other vaccines as well. I mean it's all or nothing right. You're vaccinated against everything or you can't go out to eat, go to a theme park, get on a plane...... or you don't mandate anything and let people be free.

I agree and I think that's what 530 was really saying as well. And I think we are all in the same boat that NOTHING should be forced upon us just to maintain a livelihood for our families.

 

[just_floatin]

 

[t&y]

When was the last time you heard about a vaccinated person in a 1st world country being diagnosed with one of those viruses? I'm hearing of "vaccinated" people every day being diagnosed with and/or dying from covid. It's not a vaccine, it's a shot and a poor one at that. Pull your head out of your ass, wipe the shit from your eyes and look around. Conservative my ass, you're a damn scared tell me what to do liberal.

Lol.. shit.. I was surrounded by VACCINATED people who had one of those super duper rare and totally never gonna happen Breakthrough Cases... The IDIOCY from the person I truly hold as the most super duperest, smartest smartykins, and of course the only true conservative on the boards... which ironically makes him a total libturd dumbfuck... continues. Oh well, entertainment at it's finest.

 

[4Waters]

This seems fitting for this thread, maybe the idiots can understand this.

 

[regor]

Stand your ground. No fake vax cards, no taking the poison, stand your FUCKING ground!!!

 

[t&y]

I agree and I think that's what 530 was really saying as well. And I think we are all in the same boat that NOTHING should be forced upon us just to maintain a livelihood for our families.

You need to go slap yourself across the face really fucking hard. Nothing the Oracle says needs any further explanation as it is very clear and concise every single time. HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST his point was not clear and understood from the get go. You should be ashamed SIR!

 

[94Nautique]

He totally missed my point. SMH

Hence my honest question of asking Turdy if he was high.

Dudes a clown.



ClownCarDonut strikes again.

 

[Racey]

 

[was thatguy]

Hence my honest question of asking Turdy if he was high.

Dudes a clown.



ClownCarDonut strikes again.

Some clown qualifications.


“The road to conservatism is through a Biden victory...as the destruction caused by Biden for a term will be worth it to come back to a Trumpless gop scenario...and I’m ok with that collateral damage to other Americans since I’ll still make my nut and be just fine.”

“True conservatives will not vote for Trump, but will vote for Hillary by voting by proxy for Johnson...”

“I’m OK with Flake cashing my check then quitting because I can still say I rented a politician at my next fund raiser...”

“The only thing worse than Trump is the ocean of Trumpkins in here that just can’t see how smart I am...”

“Libiot thinking coupled with chronic TDS is in fact the new improved conservatism...and just like Tigger...I’m the only one!”

 

[just_floatin]

LOL

My argument is the exact opposite. If one is against vaccine or shot mandates it should apply to all. No one should be forced by the government to get any vaccine or shot at any time or for any purpose.

Meanwhile in Italy

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1449001650111266869

 

[Racey]

Government coercing business by implied threat into mandating vaccines when they can't do it themselves administratively or legally is just as bad as government imposing a mandate directly. It's a distinction without a difference. It is not based on free market or free association. To pretend it is is laughable.

Government has a lock on regulating healthcare, regulating how dr's are free to practice, regulating what medicines one can prescribe, one can posses, one can take. Regulating what is considered a "vaccine", removing liability from the drug manufacturers of vaccines, we could go on and on...

To then say that these mandates are "private policies" is fucking stupid, and complete denial of the objective reality.

 

[was thatguy]

Government coercing business by implied threat into mandating vaccines when they can't do it themselves administratively or legally is just as bad as government imposing a mandate directly. It's a distinction without a difference. It is not based on free market or free association. To pretend it is is laughable.

Government has a lock on regulating healthcare, regulating how dr's are free to practice, regulating what medicines one can prescribe, one can posses, one can take. Regulating what is considered a "vaccine", removing liability from the drug manufacturers of vaccines, we could go on and on...

To then say that these mandates are "private policies" is fucking stupid, and complete denial of the objective reality.

“Just don’t bring that uppity shit to S Korea, my sweat shops are humming along nicely...”
411.2

 

[RitcheyRch]

I believe I said it in another thread that my wife works in a medical center and was granted the religious exemption. She was called into a meeting recently and told that the company initially was not going to approve any medical or religious exemptions. However, the upper management heard how many people were prepared to walk off the job made them change their minds and approved everyone's exemption.

 

[just_floatin]

I believe I said it in another thread that my wife works in a medical center and was granted the religious exemption. She was called into a meeting recently and told that the company initially was not going to approve any medical or religious exemptions. However, the upper management heard how many people were prepared to walk off the job made them change their minds and approved everyone's exemption.

The power is in numbers. It is very difficult to operate a business without people.
Today in the state of Washington

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1449106483619135488

 

[67Charger]

According to a local police scanner page, on Thursday there were hundreds in front of Northrop in Palmdale at 430AM, and I know a number of them were vaxxed and out there in support. I do not work there, but know a lot of people that do.

I have submitted my request for religious exemption and am awaiting a response.

 

[SNiC Jet]

Huh?

Obviously, mandates utilized by foreign government's are "A-OK" ........... "they worky very very good for enhancing profits"

 

[regor]

Hold the line boys and break the vaggots!!!

 

[regor]

 

[LazyLavey]

Beside the mandate, maybe people are finally starting to realize that the Vax is therapeutic.... Lessens the effects of the virus symptoms.

Yes, I'm exaggerating, but I think there's not much difference b/t the VAX and NyQuil or Theraflu, just obviously on a more extreme level ....