More election fuckery Georgia

[500bbc]

Okay fine we will agree to disagree on that, can you tell me how continuing to talk about the 2020 election is helping anything going forward?

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Because the cheating not only continues it's getting worse.

 

[500bbc]

Yes, because he ran against Trump. One thing I will say in Trumps favor is that he brought voters out in droves. To vote against him. Because people who are too lazy and/or stupid to know better were told how evil he was for four years and they believed it. And the person most responsible for that was Trump himself. He repeated handed them shit to spin into their narrative on a platter because his ego wouldn't let him STFU and Kelly Ann Conway couldn't get him to shut up no matter how hard she tried.

That's why every single one of his campaign appearances drew ten's of thousands of people no matter where they were held.

 

[BabyRay]

There's no reasoning with anyone that believes that imbcelic pedophile received 81 million votes.

I think you and many others are missing the point that ArizonaKevin is making. If we want to get this country back on track, it’s not just about what we believe. Rather, it’s also about what can be proved. Without that proof, a majority will never take action. Saying that Biden couldn’t have won while sitting in his basement isn’t proof…..it’s common sense, but it’s not actionable proof.

Therefore, yes, the Trump team needs to move on and talk about what the majority considers to be the real issues.

 

[500bbc]

I think you and many others are missing the point that ArizonaKevin is making. If we want to get this country back on track, it’s not just about what we believe. Rather, it’s also about what can be proved. Without that proof, a majority will never take action. Saying that Biden couldn’t have won while sitting in his basement isn’t proof…..it’s common sense, but it’s not actionable proof.

Therefore, yes, the Trump team needs to move on and talk about what the majority considers to be the real issues.

"Those that ignore the past are doomed to repeat it."

How long did it take for the Steele Dossier to be "officially" recognized as bullshit when those on the right called it immediately?

 

[Tireman]

What was brought up in 2000 mules is certainly something that's worth further investigation, but cell phone location data is hardly a smoking gun. My cell phone location data shows me driving past McDonalds every day, does that mean that I go to McDonalds every day? No

The bigger issue that I think 2000 mules missed out on is regarding ballot harvesting. That is something that opens a door for malfeasance and something that I think should be outlawed outside of people who are your dependents. That is up to people in the states where ballot harvesting is legal to take up litigation trying to outlaw it and hopefully it makes it way to the Supreme Court.

I ask you the same question, what value is the republican party getting out of not being able to move on from the 2020 election?

Yes I agree 2020 is a dead issue. But there is more than cell phone data there. There is plenty of video as well. Sadly the powers that be say there is no evidence. I say there is enough evidence to warrant a redo. Serialized ballots
In person with id voting and we would have legitimate elections with results in a day.

 

[Badchoices03]

Thats the problem with Republicans....too busy pointing out "rino's" or people that don't support Trump, or don't believe what they believe....causes too much turmoil within the party....whereas the Democrats vote along that line no matter what, you seldom see dem's turning on each other like we see republicans do day in and day out..

 

[regor]

Thats the problem with Republicans....too busy pointing out "rino's" or people that don't support Trump, or don't believe what they believe....causes too much turmoil within the party....whereas the Democrats vote along that line no matter what, you seldom see dem's turning on each other like we see republicans do day in and day out..

True, 2 observations

1) the Democrat base is too stupid to critical think and that’s why they stick together. Use Bobby V here as an example.

2) Our biggest problem is the two faced Republicans a.k.a. RINO’s. They are in bed with the Democrats, that’s the bottom line and if people can’t see that by now, I don’t know what else to say. So with that said, are we supposed to continue to stand by and get bent over?

 

[500bbc]

Yes I agree 2020 is a dead issue. But there is more than cell phone data there. There is plenty of video as well. Sadly the powers that be say there is no evidence. I say there is enough evidence to warrant a redo. Serialized ballots
In person with id voting and we would have legitimate elections with results in a day.

RINO's won't push for it.

 

[regor]

I ask you the same question, what value is the republican party getting out of not being able to move on from the 2020 election?

Because if you don’t fix 2020 they’ll just keep cheating like they did in 2022. You can’t sit here and tell me on election day with all the problems in Maricopa county after everything was tested and said that it was gonna be ready that it was a legitimately run election?

Are you really that dense?


You bought the Russia Russia Russia hoax didn’t you?

 

[Badchoices03]

True, 2 observations

1) the Democrat base is too stupid to critical think and that’s why they stick together. Use Bobby V here as an example.

2) Our biggest problem is the two faced Republicans a.k.a. RINO’s. They are in bed with the Democrats, that’s the bottom line and if people can’t see that by now, I don’t know what else to say. So with that said, are we supposed to continue to stand by and get bent over?

I don't know, but I sticking together no matter what, like the Dems, and having a Republican lead nation with a few rino's sprinkled in here or there....is MUCH MUCH better then tearing each other apart and ending up with what we have now....

 

[RiverDave]

Ticket splitting was very common in this election and seemed to be directly tied to how closely the candidate hitched their wagon to trump.

New Hampshire Republican Governor Chris Sununu won 57.1% of the votes, Republican Candidate Don Bolduc in the same state got walloped only securing 44.4% of the votes because he wouldn't shut the fuck up about the 2020 election.

Trump went after Brian Kemp in GA even going so far as to support a primary challenger, but Kemp won 53.4% and republicans did relatively well up and down the ticket, where "Trump's guy" Herschel Walker never met a child in GA that might not be his, couldn't put a sentence together, and lost.

Trump's hand picked candidate for senate in PA couldn't beat a guy that is recently recovering from a stroke with brain damage.

In AZ, Trump started a personal vendetta against Arizona's favorite son John McCain (love or hate McCain, that's an incredibly stupid political move in AZ), Lake and Masters continued that messaging and lost.

In tightly contested elections, the Trumpiest candidates who kept talking about 2020 tended to lose. Republicans need to move on and remember that we are not the party of Donald Trump, we are the Republican party.

For someone who talks about their history of "winning," Trump sure seems to lose a lot. During his tenure with the Republican party, republicans narrowly won in 2016, got killed in 2018, got killed in 2020, lost runoff election in 2021, and historically underperformed in 2022 at a time when there should have been a red Tsunami.

Contrast the above with Ron DeSantis. In 2018 he won by a mere 30k votes with a similarly narrow senate victory and a relatively even split in the house. Fast forward to 2022 and DeSantis has turned Florida into one of the reddest states in the union with a 1.5 million vote victory for gov, a 1.2 million vote victory in the senate, and republican victories throughout the house. DeSantis even managed to win Miami-Dade County for heavens sake. He made this change in Florida through strong governance and intelligent covid policy as a foundation and mixed in good culture wars on top. That's the model the Republicans need to follow in the future because it obviously works. For reasons that make absolutely zero sense to me, Trump decides to start a battle with DeSantis a week before the election calling him "Ron DeSanctimonius"

Didn’t they tighten up how their elections are done in Florida as well? Thought I read that somewhere

 

[regor]

I don't know, but I sticking together no matter what, like the Dems, and having a Republican lead nation with a few rino's sprinkled in here or there....is MUCH MUCH better then tearing each other apart and ending up with what we have now....

Well if you like the war machine, offshoring of jobs, open borders, endless debt and the illusion that the government is actually working for you and not their corporate lobbyists, I can't dismiss your point.

The debt is the one issue I had with Trump, he should have shut the government down. It would have been political suicide, but it's not his fault the populace is too ignorant to understand the situation.

I'm laughing my ass off at the cost of servicing the debt now that interest rates are rising because they have no choice. It's going to be over a trillion a year soon.

There is a financial reckoning coming, maybe then this nation will wake up to what both sides have done.

 

[BabyRay]

"Those that ignore the past are doomed to repeat it."

How long did it take for the Steele Dossier to be "officially" recognized as bullshit when those on the right called it immediately?

Fair point, but you did put “officially” in quotes, so I think you know this; The indications of fraud in that case were much stronger, but while law enforcement and the left weren’t “officiallyl admitting anything, the perpetrators and other details were outed fairly quickly.

 

[500bbc]

Because if you don’t fix 2020 they’ll just keep cheating like they did in 2022. You can’t sit here and tell me on election day with all the problems in Maricopa county after everything was tested and said that it was gonna be ready that it was a legitimately run election?

Are you really that dense?


You bought the Russia Russia Russia hoax didn’t you?

Don't forget the pissing hookers.

 

[just_floatin]

Inmates wasting their breath debating

 

[500bbc]

Fair point, but you did put “officially” in quotes, so I think you know this; The indications of fraud in that case were much stronger, but while law enforcement and the left weren’t “officiallyl admitting anything, the perpetrators and other details were outed fairly quickly.

Officially in quotes because its still not widely recognized or reported that it was fake and funded by the Clintons in conjunction with the sitting administration, the FBI, the CIA the DOJ amongst others at the time.

 

[500bbc]

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Yeah, well, my boat is pushing 1400HP and does an easy 130MPH too.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

Didn’t they tighten up how their elections are done in Florida as well? Thought I read that somewhere

Florida has had extremely tight elections after the hanging chad fiasco of 2000

 

[just_floatin]

Yeah, well, my boat is pushing 1400HP and does an easy 130MPH too.

Must be a jet bote

 

[ArizonaKevin]

Yes I agree 2020 is a dead issue. But there is more than cell phone data there. There is plenty of video as well. Sadly the powers that be say there is no evidence. I say there is enough evidence to warrant a redo. Serialized ballots
In person with id voting and we would have legitimate elections with results in a day.

The video that they showed is people dropping off multiple ballots (unless I missed other videos?) and that isn't illegal. I drop of my ballot and my wife's ballot when we vote. I agree that the rest of the country needs to copy and paste what Florida has done and how they run their elections. Being able to quickly report the numbers avoids the questions at a later date.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

Because if you don’t fix 2020 they’ll just keep cheating like they did in 2022. You can’t sit here and tell me on election day with all the problems in Maricopa county after everything was tested and said that it was gonna be ready that it was a legitimately run election?

Are you really that dense?


You bought the Russia Russia Russia hoax didn’t you?

Okay I'll bite, how do you propose to be able to improve the election rules if we keep running candidates that are going to lose? A blue white house, blue senate, and blue house would lead to a federal passage of a "voter discrimination act" that would open the flood gates of voting. We need to get power back in not only our federal offices, but local offices as well (republicans underperformed everywhere but florida in local elections) so we can improve the regulations and processes.

What do you think is a more winning message as a secretary of state candidate (the people that handle the voting)

"Election 2020 was stolen, we need to throw out the results" OR "Election 2020 opened our eyes to inefficiencies in our system that I will work to solve transparently"

Both are calling out problems in the 2020 election but only one makes the vast majority of the country roll their eyes

 

[Tireman]

The video that they showed is people dropping off multiple ballots (unless I missed other videos?) and that isn't illegal. I drop of my ballot and my wife's ballot when we vote. I agree that the rest of the country needs to copy and paste what Florida has done and how they run their elections. Being able to quickly report the numbers avoids the questions at a later date.

Correct, but how many? They were dumping armloads of ballots in there. Would you Agree that's worth looking into? And doing it at multiple boxes in the middle of the night. Is that normal to you? Not me.

 

[regor]

Okay I'll bite, how do you propose to be able to improve the election rules if we keep running candidates that are going to lose? A blue white house, blue senate, and blue house would lead to a federal passage of a "voter discrimination act" that would open the flood gates of voting. We need to get power back in not only our federal offices, but local offices as well (republicans underperformed everywhere but florida in local elections) so we can improve the regulations and processes.

What do you think is a more winning message as a secretary of state candidate (the people that handle the voting)

"Election 2020 was stolen, we need to throw out the results" OR "Election 2020 opened our eyes to inefficiencies in our system that I will work to solve transparently"

Both are calling out problems in the 2020 election but only one makes the vast majority of the country roll their eyes

It's too late now. 2020 was the time to deal with it, but the Orange Man Bad narrative that was swallowed by the nation made the majority of the country look away unfortunately. On top of that, the corrupt GOP wanted the magnifying glass off them more than the Democrats and therefore were complicit in the steal. I hope it was worth it, the base which is majority MAGA, won't forget.

SOS is the key position. Once Blue, it's tough remove them unless you have an AG and court that will stand up to them. Soros knew this and dumped a TON of money into turning them Blue.

The sooner people realize it's all one big party up there in DC, the sooner we can get on with actually making change through the ammo box, which I'm afraid is our last resort due to the complacency of the uninformed populace.

You let 2020 happen, why would they stop?

 

[dribble]

That's why every single one of his campaign appearances drew ten's of thousands of people no matter where they were held.

Yes the Trump cultists showed up in droves. A good number of them are sitting in jail because they believed they could stop the results of the election by walking into the Capitol wearing a buffalo head or walking out with Pelosi's. podium. It clearly doesn't matter many people show up to the Trump show. Here's a pic I took from the Trump Flotilla in Sacramento. This doesn't mean he got more votes from Sacramento voters.

 

[530RL]

Don't forget the pissing hookers.

 

[spectras only]

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It's no proof, it's only shrinkage, George Constanza

 

[rmarion]

Walker has the IQ of a 1st grader

Fetterman says HELLO

 

[brgrcru]

Must be a jet bote

No that’s mine lol

 

[bonesfab]

I honestly doubt this country has had a legit election this century. Trump received more votes than Hilary or Obama and you mean to tell me Pedo Joe got more votes than obama?? Just don't see it. Like they have said, It doesn't matter who votes, it's who counts the votes. And with Dominion's home page stating they will cater results to whatever is needed, that pretty much states it right there. Funny how Florida cleaned up their election rules and the repubs cleaned house. Purely coincedental I am sure.

 

[regor]

I honestly doubt this country has had a legit election this century. Trump received more votes than Hilary or Obama and you mean to tell me Pedo Joe got more votes than obama?? Just don't see it. Like they have said, It doesn't matter who votes, it's who counts the votes. And with Dominion's home page stating they will cater results to whatever is needed, that pretty much states it right there. Funny how Florida cleaned up their election rules and the repubs cleaned house. Purely coincedental I am sure.

20008 Obama wins 873 counties with an popular vote total of 69,498,516 votes.

2020 Trump wins 2497 counties with an popular vote total of 74,223,030 votes.

2020 Biden wins 477 counties with an popular vote total of 81,282,903 votes.




Biden won 16% of counties with finalized results. That represents a record-low proportion for a winning presidential candidate.

Obama set the previous record in 2012 – with 689 counties, equal to 22%. Before that, he also set a record in 2008 with just 28% of counties, per NBC News.


And the lounge.......................

 

[500bbc]

20008 Obama wins 873 counties with an popular vote total of 69,498,516 votes.

2020 Trump wins 2497 counties with an popular vote total of 74,223,030 votes.

2020 Biden wins 477 counties with an popular vote total of 81,282,903 votes.




Biden won 16% of counties with finalized results. That represents a record-low proportion for a winning presidential candidate.

Obama set the previous record in 2012 – with 689 counties, equal to 22%. Before that, he also set a record in 2008 with just 28% of counties, per NBC News.


And the lounge.......................

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But...but...but... Trump said pussy...

Note:
He was describing both Kamelwhore and Jill Stevenson when he made the true statement...

 

[SNiC Jet]

Walker was a shitty candidate, it’s really that simple

Where have you been? People no longer vote for Candidates....they vote for Party.

And the people of GA spoke for their Party....As evidenced below.....

So you’re gonna tell me a state who just elected a republican governor, a republican lieutenant governor, a republican Attorney General, A Republican secretary of state, a State which is a 33 to 23 split favoring republicans amongst state senate, a 101 to 79 split favoring republicans in the state house reps. A state that has 14 house of representative seats 9 of which are occupied by Republicans.

If you honeslty believe the reason Walker lost is because he was a bad Candidate......you are living in a Liberal's "La La Land".

 

[regor]

The country is a fucking disaster and Joey breaks the trend!!!!

rUn bEtTeR cAnDiDaTeS aNd mUh aBoRtIoN

 

[SNiC Jet]

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The country is a fucking disaster and Joey breaks the trend!!!!

rUn bEtTeR cAnDiDaTeS aNd mUh aBoRtIoN

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With a "sitting" POTUS approval rate in the 30's.

 

[530RL]

Where have you been? People no longer vote for Candidates....they vote for Party.

And the people of GA spoke for their Party....As evidenced below.....


If you honeslty believe the reason Walker lost is because he was a bad Candidate......you are living in a Liberal's "La La Land".

So you believe the voters of Georgia are incapable of looking at individual candidates and applying critical thinking to determine which candidate is in their best interest? For example voting for Kemp but not for Walker?

And therefore split ballots are solid evidence of fraud as a split ballot assumes the voter exercised critical thinking, judgement, and consideration of a candidate’s character as opposed to simply voting for the party regardless of candidate?

 

[SNiC Jet]

So you believe the voters of Georgia are incapable of looking at individual candidates and applying critical thinking to determine which candidate is in their best interest? For example voting for Kemp but not for Walker?

And therefore split ballots are solid evidence of fraud as a split ballot assumes the voter exercised critical thinking, judgement, and consideration of a candidate’s character as opposed to simply voting for the party regardless of candidate?

Face it! GA is a RED state and Warlock is a "bastard" from the GA norm....
As long as people can vote by mail....and are not required to deliver their ballots in person with a valid I.D......voter fraud comes into play. You apparently not only know this, but embrace and cater to it with your constant displays of misleading nonsense and bullshit.

If you expect me to believe that a Red state such as GA, will vote for a Dem Senate knowing the balance of political power lays solely in their hands and they voted to support a Blue Senate Majority and Biden....this defies all political logic and if you believe as you say, you are proving yourself to be either; some "special kind" of stupid...or an individual who embraces "sloppy voting integrity" because the outcomes are currently favoring your political wishes and desires.
FWIW, I believe it to be the later.

 

[530RL]

Snip.....

If you expect me to believe that a Red state such as GA, will vote for a Dem Senate knowing the balance of political power lays solely in their hands and they voted to support a Blue Senate Majority and Biden.... Snip......

It would appear that GA did exactly that not only once, but twice now.

 

[JBS]

I gather your point is people simply did not vote for him as he is black

 

[was thatguy]

What was brought up in 2000 mules is certainly something that's worth further investigation, but cell phone location data is hardly a smoking gun. My cell phone location data shows me driving past McDonalds every day, does that mean that I go to McDonalds every day? No

The bigger issue that I think 2000 mules missed out on is regarding ballot harvesting. That is something that opens a door for malfeasance and something that I think should be outlawed outside of people who are your dependents. That is up to people in the states where ballot harvesting is legal to take up litigation trying to outlaw it and hopefully it makes it way to the Supreme Court.

I ask you the same question, what value is the republican party getting out of not being able to move on from the 2020 election?

You think the GOP is going to save us?

 

[was thatguy]

True, 2 observations

1) the Democrat base is too stupid to critical think and that’s why they stick together. Use Bobby V here as an example.

2) Our biggest problem is the two faced Republicans a.k.a. RINO’s. They are in bed with the Democrats, that’s the bottom line and if people can’t see that by now, I don’t know what else to say. So with that said, are we supposed to continue to stand by and get bent over?

When I read posters stating that “2020 is a dead issue” I know the Republic is lost.

 

[regor]

You think the GOP is going to save us?

They still think the GOP is on their side.

 

[SNiC Jet]

It would appear that GA did exactly that not only once, but twice now.

Yes, It would appear so for those of you who are proving themselves to be either; some "special kind" of stupid...or those individuals who embraces "sloppy voting integrity" because the outcomes are currently favoring their political wishes and desires.

 

[regor]

Yes, It would appear so for those of you who are proving themselves to be either; some "special kind" of stupid...or those individuals who embraces "sloppy voting integrity" because the outcomes are currently favoring their political wishes and desires.

He's a corrupt POS, there's no sense in debating anything his worthless corrupt ass has to say.

 

[JBS]

So you believe the voters of Georgia are incapable of looking at individual candidates and applying critical thinking to determine which candidate is in their best interest? For example voting for Kemp but not for Walker?

And therefore split ballots are solid evidence of fraud as a split ballot assumes the voter exercised critical thinking, judgement, and consideration of a candidate’s character as opposed to simply voting for the party regardless of candidate?

My question would be how many of the "split" ballots are from Dems and independents vs Republicans?

The republicans cannot accept that they can not win just getting votes from their own party.

 

[SNiC Jet]

My question would be how many of the "split" ballots are from Dems and independents vs Republicans?

FWIW, the GA Independents also made GA a Red State..... there is no political logic whatsoever that they would now split a ticket at the National level. Why would GA Independents desire a Red State and a Blue Controlled Senate?

 

[530RL]

My question would be how many of the "split" ballots are from Dems and independents vs Republicans?

The republicans cannot accept that they can not win just getting votes from their own party.

Republican turnout was actually quite high despite their leaders calls to distrust and limit early voting.

But split ticket voting was quite high if one accepts math.

Turnout by Republicans Was Great. It's Just That Many of Them Didn't Vote for Republicans.

After yet another disappointing showing for Republicans in Georgia’s Senate runoff on Tuesday, some conservatives — like Sean Hannity, Newt Gingrich and Kevin McCarthy — have begun to point to a surprising culprit: a failure to take advantage of early voting. The theory seems to be that...

www.yahoo.com

 

[530RL]

FWIW, the GA Independents also made GA a Red State..... there is no political logic whatsoever that they would now split a ticket at the National level. Why would GA Independents desire a Red State and a Blue Controlled Senate?

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It's not that they don't prefer Republicans, they didn't prefer the Republican candidates put forth and supported by the Republican leadership.

Or as others have said, candidates matter! And party leaders that think the voter will hold their nose, eat shit and accept their handpicked nominees in the general election are quickly learning from Arizona to Georgia that voters will not as they are capable of thinking on their own.

 

[LazyLavey]

Good summary. Trump is toxic to the people in the middle and those are the people who decide elections.

Don't forget that the LA City Council voted to ban Styrofoam Cups yesterday. This is way more important than the 200,000 people living on sidewalks!

maybe the city will provide them yeti stainless steel cups......

 

[SNiC Jet]

It's not that they don't prefer Republicans, they didn't prefer the Republican candidates put forth and supported by the Republican leadership.

So you actually believe the Republicans and Independents in a RED dominated state would choose the "national status quo" and allow the Senate to continue being controlled by Biden, Schumer, and the DEMS simply because they do not like their "candidate".

NEWS FLASH.......GA's Republicans and Independents are not that Stupid and neither are the people you are trying to persuade with your silly nonsense.

 

[530RL]

So you actually believe the Republicans and Independents in a RED dominated state would choose the "national status quo" and allow the Senate to continue being controlled by Biden, Schumer, and the DEMS simply because they do not like their "candidate".

NEWS FLASH.......GA's Republicans and Independents are not that Stupid and neither are the people you are trying to persuade with your silly nonsense.

Happened in Arizona when the former President turned two Senate seats from dark red to blue.

Not surprised it could happen in Georgia.