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Malaysia is a Muslim country. I don't give a shit where the plane is. AMERICA!!!! 200 and whatever potential terrorists gone in my book.
 

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Some retired US military questioned by the media say south china sea is relatively shallow waters, location & recovery should be much easier.
I dunno,, something seems different about the usual responses from the authorities and power that be this time.
Somethin' ain't right. Something goofy about the whole thing.

Maybe if you are looking for something the size of a 777, but you are looking for something(s) that is probably about the size of a small car. That's what happens when something the size of a 777 hits the water at 600 mph.
 

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Maybe if you are looking for something the size of a 777, but you are looking for something(s) that is probably about the size of a small car. That's what happens when something the size of a 777 hits the water at 600 mph.

Multiple small cars
 

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The plane is travelling at 500 mph.
It explodes at 35,000 feet, parts are thrown in all directions at great speed - due to the force of the blast, as well as the speed of the plane.
The debris then falls 5 miles from the sky.

There's no possible way all this debris will occupy a small area - it's going to be tiny shards of plane scattered over a huge area.
 

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So why the Uturn?

Terrorists seem to like sensationalism, so no phone call before, no demands before, no phone call after it happens, no midair conversations, nothing.

So then a total accident? Something in the cargo hold?

Brian

The plane is travelling at 500 mph.
It explodes at 35,000 feet, parts are thrown in all directions at great speed - due to the force of the blast, as well as the speed of the plane.
The debris then falls 5 miles from the sky.

There's no possible way all this debris will occupy a small area - it's going to be tiny shards of plane scattered over a huge area.
 

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The plane is travelling at 500 mph.
It explodes at 35,000 feet, parts are thrown in all directions at great speed - due to the force of the blast, as well as the speed of the plane.
The debris then falls 5 miles from the sky.

There's no possible way all this debris will occupy a small area - it's going to be tiny shards of plane scattered over a huge area.
If it blew up!!!
 

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This the problem. Reporters are focused on one thing, filling air time, columns, and internet blurbs. They make statements that do not get substantiated like in the past when news could be trusted. They say so many things nowadays that are just untrue.......And it gets picked up as fact.

The ocean(s) are huge and even a large plane is just a spec, especially if it sunk. Couple in they are unsure within 1,000's upon 1,000's of sq miles and it ain't easy.

The phone deal I'd take with a grain of salt again as active phone numbers are capable of ringing just making it through the routing, I'D GUESS.:skull

I can't be anymore irrelevant than the typical news reporter.;)


What do you expect? It's Fox News :)
 

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If it blew up, there would be a debris field with something floating. Cushions, luggage, something. Someone knows something that they are not making public. Wouldn't surprise me if China knew where it was but was keeping it quiet. It is state run media after all
 

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So why the Uturn?

There's no proof of that.
The chief of the Malaysian air force - the guy who initially said there was a U-Turn - backtracked and said that he had not made any such statement, and instead simply meant that there was ?the possibility of an air turnaround??

Or perhaps this is a cover-up of magnificent proportions...



If it blew up, there would be a debris field with something floating. Cushions, luggage, something.

Google "Air France Flight 447".
This plane crashed in the ocean, and it took a week to find the first piece of the plane - and two years to find the actual wreckage.
And before the debris was found, the internet was awash in stories of the "missing plane" - stories not unlike what we're hearing now.

Wouldn't you think that a plane that crashed - intact - into the water would be easier to find than one that exploded in the sky?
Or maybe the Malaysian plan crashed intact into the water as well...?




If it blew up!!!

True, no one knows for sure.
But either an explosion, or just a crash into the water, seems to be the most plausible explanation at this point.
 

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Who knows what happened in the cockpit.The pilot may have gone crazy like the egyptian pilot little while ago, turning the transponder and everything else off, lowering his altitude maintaining a low level flight for a while before pushing the sticks forward to crash the plane into the sea. Lot of crazy stuff happened before so it's plausible.
 

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If it blew up, there would be a debris field with something floating. Cushions, luggage, something. Someone knows something that they are not making public. Wouldn't surprise me if China knew where it was but was keeping it quiet. It is state run media after all

my .02 if its on the ground somewhere ? to many people on board that someone didn't get off a tex ? to someone ? unless the whole plane was asleep ? ( this is a movie ) :eek;)
 

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Who knows what happened in the cockpit.The pilot may have gone crazy like the egyptian pilot little while ago, turning the transponder and everything else off, lowering his altitude maintaining a low level flight for a while before pushing the sticks forward to crash the plane into the sea. Lot of crazy stuff happened before so it's plausible.

to much shit in one spot when it hit the water ;)
 

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It could be anything from pressurization / oxygen issues to being shot out of the sky and the tracking stuff is bullshit for obvious reasons. Other commercial airliners have been shot down and covered up. That's my theory anyway. Somebody fucked up. My bet it's on China.

None the less God speed. Those folks including 3 Americans are gone.
 

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It could be anything from pressurization / oxygen issues to being shot out of the sky and the tracking stuff is bullshit for obvious reasons. Other commercial airliners have been shot down and covered up. That's my theory anyway. Somebody fucked up. My bet it's on China.

None the less God speed. Those folks including 3 Americans are gone.

Yes, Chinese illegal alien terrorists:thumbsup I'm just agreeing with you. Something funky happened, those that know are not saying and China would be suspect right now in my eyes.:thumbsup
 

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How are flight numbers issued? And is a flight number like France 447 ever used again?
 

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Any truth to the rumor that Milk Money's back ordered boat part was coming out of Malaysia
 

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Any truth to the rumor that Milk Money's back ordered boat part was coming out of Malaysia

This might be the most plausible theory in the entire thread. Maybe the entire internet. :D
 
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I heard on the radio today that there were 20 people onboard that work for a contractor that specializes in electronic warfare. I wonder if it was a sophisticated abduction of those people who are all very knowledgeable in the technology of electronic warfare. Their primarily specialty is cloaking and radar deception, which includes makeing aircraft disappear on radar as well as making multiple aircraft appear on radar that are not really there.

The Israelis used this on Syria a while back. They made all of the aircraft disappear then a short time later the made a couple hundred Israeli aircraft appear on radar. I wish I could have been a fly on the wall in the Syrian radar site.

There were 20 employeesof Freescale on board. Freescale is a semiconductor company based in Austin, Tx and used to be part of Motorola semiconductor. None of the Freescale employees on this flight were US based, they were likely regional manufacturing and/or sales employees. Very unlikely that they had anything to do with this flight.
 

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It is just freaky that not a single piece of debris, not even a seat cushion, has ever been spotted.

It's pretty damned hard to disappear a 777, I would think.

Godspeed where ever they are....:(
 

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Not sure how they are issued but they are not reused after an accident as far as I know.

Pretty strange deal that this plane has not been found. I do understand the ocean is large but with as many planes and boats out there searching for it you would think they would ahve found something.


How are flight numbers issued? And is a flight number like France 447 ever used again?
 

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I just saw this on CNN as well. Wow, what a mystery this is. Their officials saying the Sat. image was a mistake, a newspaper report saying the plane flew for "hours", and others saying it would be impossible for a plane to fly "for hours" without being detected on radar and being seen. The days just keep going by....:thumbsdown

Well, nothing is impossible.

Primary RADAR is far from fool proof, and it is entirely possible the computers that process those RADAR signals discarded the return as something other than an airplane.

With RR and Boeing claiming they have 4 hours of telemetry data from the engines after contact was lost thickens the plot a bit. While I was skeptical the airplane was on the ground somewhere, that theory is more plausible at this moment.
 

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Anyone checked into David Copperfield's where about?
 

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Sleek, do you think that the pilots actually turned off the tracking devices and flew the plane into the ocean?

How in the world can anyone force their way into a cockpit these days? I thought the doors were sealed shut? Could a terrorist actually get in there, remove the pilots, shut off all the tracking, without any emergency switch flipped on or any distress sent from inside the cockpit?

Nobody would need to force their way in to the cockpit, if they are already in there.
 

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Anyone checked into David Copperfield's where about?

I'm thinking some aliens may have "black holed" that thing..!:eek

It is a trip. EVERY airliner that has broken up or crashed over water has left evidence, even in FAR deeper water.
I mean, it isn't like they were over the pole or whatever.
 

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Sleek, do you think that the pilots actually turned off the tracking devices and flew the plane into the ocean?

How in the world can anyone force their way into a cockpit these days? I thought the doors were sealed shut? Could a terrorist actually get in there, remove the pilots, shut off all the tracking, without any emergency switch flipped on or any distress sent from inside the cockpit?

Nobody would need to force their way in to the cockpit, if they are already in there.

The thing is...No one has made any claims to my knowledge except some obscure Chinese group?
 

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[video=youtube;2Y-7xp-mPmg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y-7xp-mPmg[/video]

LOL, this video represents a classic case of paranoia. If you Google Earth the coordinates you can see it's an island or reef. There are pictures of people on it, and standing on the "UFO", which appears to be a helipad to support the buildings next to it. Why did the boat make a u-turn, because it was headed towards land :roll eyes

20 25' 32.21" N 136 04' 52.15 E
 

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With RR and Boeing claiming they have 4 hours of telemetry data from the engines after contact was lost thickens the plot a bit. While I was skeptical the airplane was on the ground somewhere, that theory is more plausible at this moment.

Now we have some strange evidence - not conspiracy theory - about possible foul play. So the plot thickens...
 

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Hope you guys get it figured out soon.
 

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Perhaps this was a plane theft. Its parked somewhere....

Kidnap the crew's family....they are gonna cooperate. Some expertise involved to turn off transponders and such but certainly not impossible.

Or...


Its stuck on a giant treadmill and it can't take off! :eek:eek:eek:eek:eek:eek:eek:eek:eek:eek
 

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Sleek, do you think that the pilots actually turned off the tracking devices and flew the plane into the ocean?

How in the world can anyone force their way into a cockpit these days? I thought the doors were sealed shut? Could a terrorist actually get in there, remove the pilots, shut off all the tracking, without any emergency switch flipped on or any distress sent from inside the cockpit?

One of the pilots of this flight was reprimanded in '11 for allowing a passenger into the cockpit.
 

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LOL, this video represents a classic case of paranoia. If you Google Earth the coordinates you can see it's an island or reef. There are pictures of people on it, and standing on the "UFO", which appears to be a helipad to support the buildings next to it. Why did the boat make a u-turn, because it was headed towards land :roll eyes

20 25' 32.21" N 136 04' 52.15 E

Chipster, did you miss post #108 by any chance ;) > http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...=vPAgU5yUDpDyoAS8iIGIBg&sqi=2&ved=0CH0Q_B0wCg

http://www.ktr.mlit.go.jp/ktr_content/content/000066588.JPG
 

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There are so many unsubstantiated rumors and such floating around over this deal that it is hard to know from the outside what is "evidence" and what is B.S.
This may be due to a conscious effort or it may be due to incompetence.
If someone finds primary sourced documentation that supports the story regarding telemetry from the engines running 4 hours after the aircraft disappeared then we have a whole new ball game.
Until then this remains a cluster...a genuine Chinese fire drill.
 

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Sleek, do you think that the pilots actually turned off the tracking devices and flew the plane into the ocean?

How in the world can anyone force their way into a cockpit these days? I thought the doors were sealed shut? Could a terrorist actually get in there, remove the pilots, shut off all the tracking, without any emergency switch flipped on or any distress sent from inside the cockpit?

Cockpit door locks can be defeated, crews can be made incapacitated, everything in an airplane has an Off switch. Even engine telemetry, though if you aren't familiar with it you wouldn't know how to go about disabling it. According to today's WSJ, Boeing and RR are being tight lipped on what data they have.

I don't have the slightest clue what happened, just reshuffling the deck a bit on what is plausible or not, at least from my armchair. Personally I still think it crashed into the ocean about where it disappeared on RADAR.
 

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What worries me is the 777 has an incredible safety record.
 

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Could have been the pilot or co-pilot did a Alu Akbar, went apeshit, took over,, headed for Mecca and ran out of fuel.
Hey,, it's damn near happened before.
 

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Just now reported:
"BEIJING (AP) China's state media says Vietnamese authorities have detected signals from the missing Malaysia Airlines plane.
The Xinhua News Agency, citing a local Vietnamese media report, says a Vietnamese search and rescue official reported that the signals have been detected from the plane from about 220 kilometers (120 miles) southwest of Vietnam's southernmost coastal province of Ca Mau.
Malaysia Airlines says its Boeing 777-200 carrying 239 people lost contact over the South China Sea early Saturday morning on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing."
-AP

In other news: Demarcus Ware cut from the Cowboys.
 
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After the William Payne Stewart Jet crash in 1999 (from a lost cabin pressure, causing hypoxia ? a lack of oxygen), newer auto-pilot systems are programmed to turn the aircraft 90 degrees off coarse, and start a decent, to below 12,500 feet, and level off, with the intent the pilot will recover, after lost of cabin pressure, and fly the plane to safety. :hmm
 
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