Maybe someone... anyone can explain this to me about Schiada's

[SKIA36]

I have ridden in the boat, you know I am the biggest skeptic around when it comes to bullshit HP and MPH numbers, i didn't believe it till i rode in it.

Extension box and trimmed to the max on glass absolute ringing the thing out for every penny and nothing in the boat i could see it, i rode in the boat back to the ramp with 5 other people, after linder's boat flung a blade at mead, full load of coolers, skis, gas, etc, it cruised 50mph with the bimini up not even breaking a sweat. Absolutely surprised the shit out of me, i know Don lurks the boards here, maybe he'll see this and chime in , the last time i heard from him he called me in tears after watching that video of me being a drunk badass at Daves

I just talked with Don last night, The boat runs a solid 85. We raced a 24 at the Schiada regatta with a 600ci Brummett motor, the owner claims 90mph. That is the fastest 24 I have heard about. Do not know if they are delta bottoms.

 

[River Lynchmob]

I have ridden in the boat, you know I am the biggest skeptic around when it comes to bullshit HP and MPH numbers, i didn't believe it till i rode in it.

Extension box and trimmed to the max on glass absolute ringing the thing out for every penny and nothing in the boat i could see it, i rode in the boat back to the ramp with 5 other people, after linder's boat flung a blade at mead, full load of coolers, skis, gas, etc, it cruised 50mph with the bimini up not even breaking a sweat. Absolutely surprised the shit out of me, i know Don lurks the boards here, maybe he'll see this and chime in , the last time i heard from him he called me in tears after watching that video of me being a drunk badass at Daves

Drunk...yes. :champagne: Badass...not so much :blah:

 

[SKIA36]

I believe that guy that owns the almost all white 24' v-drive (was at the last regatta) with the blown motor (540+, if memory serves) noted that his 24' was only running in the mid 90's, if memory serves correctly.......he is the second owner of the boat.

Now if you were say running a 1075 Mercury setup with a #6 drive, maybe you might see 95-100 ????, and don't know of any 24's that have had this combo, mostly 525's ???

But someone could give Lee a call and ask him the scoop on what he believes a 24 will safely run with big hp (1000+) and either in v-drive config or stern drive config ??????

I dont know of any v-drive 24s that run over low 80s. Gibsons(Turbo motor) and Nessens(Blower motor) both ran low 80s at best. I dont know how fast Sahaghians old 24 ran (Mike Mohrfield has it now), but I am willing to bet close to low 90's. It has a Healthy blower motor, delta bottom, high x-dimension and extender box.

 

[hawkes24]

Drunk...yes. :champagne: Badass...not so much :blah:

oint you got that right lynch

 

[River Lynchmob]

I dont know of any v-drive 24s that run over low 80s. Gibsons(Turbo motor) and Nessens(Blower motor) both ran low 80s at best. I dont know how fast Sahaghians old 24 ran (Mike Mohrfield has it now), but I am willing to bet close to low 90's. It has a Healthy blower motor, delta bottom, high x-dimension and extender box.

Mike's boat is in the low 80s as well...he has it set up for pump gas and has yes it has a delta bottom which he doesn't like at all he says it does funny things over about 75...he was going to build another 24 with a regular bottom with a Carson motor in it.

 

[Racey]

oint you got that right lynch

Watch it Dick Shirt oint

 

[hawkes24]

Watch it Dick Shirt oint

its allright paybacks a bitch :skull

 

[RiverDave]

Dave Mirabella's 24 (BTW he is the owner of the MTI that Schiada did the rigging and the tilt trailer). It was tested by Powerboat Magazine 4 years ago at Parker, Tomlinson driving and Teague with the radar gun. It was set up with a Teague 850 and an IMCO I/O. I was on the water when they were testing and saw the results post test. It also had the fastest 0-30, 30-60 and etc. times of any of the boats tested in that issue and a lot of the subsequent issues.

Can I now have a ride in the Mach 1 21'

What did it run at the test?

RD

 

[RiverDave]

That 24 with the AZ Speed and marine procharged motor that Lee is selling right now is a 90+ mph boat.

RD

 

[SKIA36]

Mike's boat is in the low 80s as well...he has it set up for pump gas and has yes it has a delta bottom which he doesn't like at all he says it does funny things over about 75...he was going to build another 24 with a regular bottom with a Carson motor in it.

Saw him and John Smith here at Mead over the Memorial Day weekend. He really doesnt like the delta ride. He's not real excited about the lead time and pricing for the new 24.

 

[Tube Sock]

What did it run at the test?

RD

98 mph on radar. It took some driving skill to get it there because as noted above you really have to watch how high you set the trim as these hulls like to start walking above 75.

 

[Tube Sock]

That 24 with the AZ Speed and marine procharged motor that Lee is selling right now is a 90+ mph boat.

RD

How much is Lee selling it for?

 

[RiverDave]

Not buying it Stenton...not with 525...75 MAYBE. Talking to Carson he says he doesn't know of 24 out there that has run over 85 v drive, I/O or other...other than Linder's. Not saying I don't like 24s...I love them just repeating what Carson has said and everyone knows he doesn't bull shit about anything.

Alright Lynch.. I happened to be on the phone with the boss man himself while reading the thread..

He said Stock 525 the boat will crack 80 everytime.. Optimal water with an extension box it'll run 84 - 85.

It was also said "Lynch should no better than that." and a bet of "loser buys the bar tab" might've been thrown into the mix in there somewhere..

RD

 

[RiverDave]

How much is Lee selling it for?

I'm not sure you would have to call Lee about that? When I was talking to him a few minutes ago he actually said the boat would most likely break 100, but it'd also break drives fairly regularly doing it.

RD

 

[Tube Sock]

I'm not sure you would have to call Lee about that? When I was talking to him a few minutes ago he actually said the boat would most likely break 100, but it'd also break drives fairly regularly doing it.

RD

Whats a drive here and there

 

[RiverDave]

Whats a drive here and there

Nothing to these ballers.. Everything to me.

RD

 

[River Lynchmob]

Alright Lynch.. I happened to be on the phone with the boss man himself while reading the thread..

He said Stock 525 the boat will crack 80 everytime.. Optimal water with an extension box it'll run 84 - 85.

It was also said "Lynch should no better than that." and a bet of "loser buys the bar tab" might've been thrown into the mix in there somewhere..

RD

I haven't been in a 24 in years...I was going off of what Carson said...he may have been refering to 24 v drives only? I will have to clarify that with him next week. I will take Lee's word for it and as far as betting me a bar tab that would be like him telling me a 5-ton A/C unit is good for a 6000 foot building and me betting him it's not

But I'd be more than happy to go drink for drink with him and the last one standing buy the tab :skull

 

[LV R SCHIADA'S]

:thumbsup so the moral of this story is.....if ya wanna play with the big dogs at or over 100mph, better have a 21 with 1000+hp minimum ???and if ya want the caddy cruiser at 80ish, get a 24 the stuff you learn here !!!!!

 

[JAA_CBA]

Since I have almost as much seat time in Donnies 24 as he does and have driven it in all water conditions, plus I was driving it when I saw 84 on the GPS when it was out for the Hotboat tests, I'll add my 2 cents.

I think a handful of you know me but for those who don't I am an old time ski racer and like a few others have said, I have always been very skeptical of speeds guys claim their stuff goes and I also defer to Carson when it comes to "real" speeds.

Couple things Lee did with this 24, first it does not have a delta pad, but it does have a very high X. When we first got the boat, it had the sportster lower unit and I think a 26 four blade Hydromotive. It was very fast, in fact I think Lee had it to 83 at Castiac for its first run, but it was in very smooth water, ya I know Castaic is never smooth but it was mid week mid morning. When we took it out and had it loaded down, it handles like crap, the drive was to high and the tail was all over the place. He then put on a standard lower, switched to a five blade, 24 Hydromotive and it ran about 78 but were hitting the rev limiter hard, which is 5400. This was at the Hotboats tests, we then switched to a five blade 26 Maximus, that is when I drove it and saw 84, still got into the rev limiter, but just barely.

The other thing that was amazing about that prop was it helped lift the whole boat out of the water and it runs best at neutral trim. For the best speed runs, you can trim to just over neutral, but not much as if you go to high you actually will drop a bit of speed as you start blowing water. The reason Lee said it should go 85-86 is that the boat has not been run since that day without being fully loaded with people, gas and other stuff, and all Donnie really cares about is waterskiing and crusing comfortably across Mead in any water condition.

Finally, the most unbelievable thing about this boat is how it handles the really big stuff. I have driven it in some of the roughest water I have ever been in and it comfortably cruises at 55-60, just incredible.

If you haven't heard Lee talk about how this boat handles and the speeds it is getting, you should because he said it is like a brand new design that is so different from the older 24's, that is why so many of you don't believe the speed with a 525.

Dan Aldrich

 

[spudwig]

I could have not said it any better Dan. The standard v bottom with the high x dimension is working amazing as Dan said. The most amazing thing about this setup is the slip numbers that we are getting. At 84mph our slip number is 5 to 6% consistantly. Very quick in the mid range at 50mph right at 8% slip. These are the numbers that the cat hulls are turning in. Dan and I are even using this same propeller to ski with, and getting out of the water just fine, best of both worlds. Here is a picture of the boat out of the water with the shorty, really fun to drive without any weight in the boat but as dan said the stern was very unstable. The std lower unit and the 5 blade maximus really made the boat come alive. The prop shaft is running about 2" below the keel. Lee really has a new boat with this setup. It would be interresting to see someone put some horsepower in one setup just like mine. The accerleration would be amazing.

Don Ludwig

 

[Racey]

Told you guys I wasn't bullshit'n n' shit

BTW bitchin picture Donnie, that's one you need sitting on your desk so when you are having a bad day you can take a mental vacation!

 

[River Lynchmob]

That is a sweet pic...I have seen it many times but didn't know this was the boat we were talking about. :thumbsup

 

[spudwig]

That seems to be my problem, always on a mental vacation..
Thanks.. See you at Mead on Fathers Day Weekend!!

Told you guys I wasn't bullshit'n n' shit

BTW bitchin picture Donnie, that's one you need sitting on your desk so when you are having a bad day you can take a mental vacation!

 

[jstnoc]

V-drive is the only way to go. Unless you are going with a 6 drive, you are wasting your time trying to make an outdrive Schiada go fast.

20' Schiada v-drive, 900hp 468 tt gentry(Colburn) Kilo record 106mph

21' Schiada v-drive, 1200hp 540 tt gentry (Lynch) 109mph. A few 21s are running over 120mph. None are outdrives.

22 Schiada v-drive, 540 tt @1100hp, 102mph

SR22 (24) v-drive , 540 tt @1500hp, 116mph. THE ULTIMATE SCHIADA.


I dont know of any Schiadas w/outdrives that can go 100mph. Any one have one or know of one?

My 21 RT with 750HP IO ran over 100 mph. It seemed a little lighter on the layup but the thing hauled ass. Started getting really freakish at over 85 mph. But it definately ran 102-104 GPS a few times.

 

[SKIA36]

My 21 RT with 750HP IO ran over 100 mph. It seemed a little lighter on the layup but the thing hauled ass. Started getting really freakish at over 85 mph. But it definately ran 102-104 GPS a few times.

Tunnels are a whole different animal. Much faster than v-bottoms. The Bravo drives are the weak link. Reliability w/over 700hp is poor at best.

 

[jstnoc]

Tunnels are a whole different animal. Much faster than v-bottoms. The Bravo drives are the weak link. Reliability w/over 700hp is poor at best.

Well as long as I have had a fully worked MAX MACHINE drive on any of my boats. 21 rt 22 rc now 20 I have never broken a drive. 21 rt had 750hp then dropped to 550 the 22 had about 850 maybe 900 when the boost was at 14lbs.. But I am definately going to a VDRIVE when I hit the lotto.

 

[Dale21RT]

My 21 RT with 750HP IO ran over 100 mph. It seemed a little lighter on the layup but the thing hauled ass. Started getting really freakish at over 85 mph. But it definately ran 102-104 GPS a few times.

Amem; Us tunnel guys need some love too!

 

[jstnoc]

The boat definately ran dry! Looks like its going to take off!

 

[Dale21RT]

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The boat definately ran dry! Looks like its going to take off!

Hell ya; Now thats what I'm talking about! Going to be up around Needles fathers day weekend any one else?

P.S. Fantastic pics thanks for sharing, my RT looks and runs just like that!