Mass shooting at a SXS rally in San Vicente (near Ensenada)

[530RL]

And all this time I thought guns were illegal in Mexico!?!

I guess the President of Mexicos “hugs, not bullets” program is going well.

Nope. You can own one handgun and 9 long guns per household in Mexico. This also applies to American citizens who are legal residents of Mexico.

Tons of guns in Mexico and legally owned. It is even in the Mexican constitution although with greater ability to restrict.

The inhabitants of the United Mexican States have the right to possess arms in their homes for their security and legitimate defense with the exception of those [weapons] prohibited by federal law and those reserved for the exclusive use of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and National Guard. Federal law shall determine the cases, conditions, requirements and places [under and] in which the inhabitants may be authorized to bear arms.

 

[charred1]

Nope. You can own one handgun and 9 long guns per household in Mexico. This also applies to American citizens who are legal residents of Mexico.

Tons of guns in Mexico and legally owned. It is even in the Mexican constitution although with greater ability to restrict.

The inhabitants of the United Mexican States have the right to possess arms in their homes for their security and legitimate defense with the exception of those [weapons] prohibited by federal law and those reserved for the exclusive use of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and National Guard. Federal law shall determine the cases, conditions, requirements and places [under and] in which the inhabitants may be authorized to bear arms.

Oh that right! Only allowed to possess guns in their homes…the illegal part is carrying them openly or concealed in public. So in this case…still illegal! Thanks for the heads up!

 

[hman442]

I've said it before . . . who the F still does coke ?!?!?!
I thought the 80's were over !!!

Ugh. Most likely on its way here to the good 'ol USA, first though, let's cut it with fentanyl, cuz that seems to work out:

PORTLAND, Ore. -- A series of suspected drug overdoses left at least eight people dead over the weekend in Portland, Oregon, according to the city's police bureau.

Six of the deaths were likely related to fentanyl, a potent synthetic opioid. Several of those who died believed they were using cocaine, when it was actually fentanyl or a mix of the two substances, the city's police bureau said in a news release.

 

[HubbaHubbaLife]

I've said it before . . . who the F still does coke ?!?!?!
I thought the 80's were over !!!

And here I was thinking I liked ya

 

[MPHSystems]

Probably just frustrated waiting for delivery of their Speed UTV.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Nope. You can own one handgun and 9 long guns per household in Mexico. This also applies to American citizens who are legal residents of Mexico.

Tons of guns in Mexico and legally owned. It is even in the Mexican constitution although with greater ability to restrict.

The inhabitants of the United Mexican States have the right to possess arms in their homes for their security and legitimate defense with the exception of those [weapons] prohibited by federal law and those reserved for the exclusive use of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and National Guard. Federal law shall determine the cases, conditions, requirements and places [under and] in which the inhabitants may be authorized to bear arms.

They are very strict on their definition of long guns from what I've heard. Sporting guns are a hard no, but hunting rifles and shotguns are allowed with permit buy either the governor or some magistrate type? Then there is always the corruption of the local government that plays into things as well. The average "legal" gun owner in the countryside is also not liable to be firing off hundreds of rounds just due to cost. Ammunition is tightly regulated, and becoming an illegally imported commodity, just as cash and firearms are smuggled.

 

[beerrun]

Ugh. Most likely on its way here to the good 'ol USA, first though, let's cut it with fentanyl, cuz that seems to work out:

PORTLAND, Ore. -- A series of suspected drug overdoses left at least eight people dead over the weekend in Portland, Oregon, according to the city's police bureau.

Six of the deaths were likely related to fentanyl, a potent synthetic opioid. Several of those who died believed they were using cocaine, when it was actually fentanyl or a mix of the two substances, the city's police bureau said in a news release.

But these people are dead by there choice they choose to take drugs. If I'm in a group UTV ride I didn't go hoping to get shot

 

[HTTP404]

Note to self. Avoid UTV runs with my cartel buddies.

 

[Danger Dave]

Best wishes for speedy recoveries.

 

[RiverDave]

It’s just one Mexican

According to a lot of people it actually was all about one Mexican.. El Trebol I guess was the guys name..

 

[4Waters]

I imagine they feel the same way about us since JB took office.

Weird, democrats are are the best gun and drug salesman in the US

 

[Wheeler]

Weird, democrats are are the best gun and drug salesman in the US

they also make some ugly babies.

 

[DLC]

Looks like the Cartels like Can Ams sxs’s

 

[RiverDave]

they also make some ugly babies.

They do have a certain look about them.. and the far left ones you can literally see the crazy in their eyes

 

[Wheeler]

They do have a certain look about them.. and the far left ones you can literally see the crazy in their eyes

Chelsea Clinton and Amy Carter come to mind.

Did you know that Amy Carter married Abby Hoffman?

''Hoffman was a member of a group of defendants that became known as the Chicago Seven (originally known as the Chicago Eight), which included fellow Yippie Jerry Rubin, David Dellinger, Rennie Davis, John Froines, Lee Weiner, Tom Hayden, and Bobby Seale

 

[rivrrts429]

You won't see me in the hood in Chicago either.

It’s the same for Mexican citizens. The cartels are just like the inner city gangs or violent outlaw biker gangs. None of us go places where they associate.

The same low income inner city innocent individuals caught in the crossfire of Chicago are the same ones caught in the Cartel crossfire in Mexico.

I have a friend who lives in Ensenada. Her family is very wealthy. They own chemical factories in Mexico. She’s highly educated and does very well for herself with a home in Ensenada. She doesn’t frequent the “Chicago” areas of Mexico either.

When I first met her she was blown away at how much innocent deaths we have like the school shootings. Often it’s Cartel on Cartel in Mexico with the occasional innocent victim caught in the chaos.

I told her that the average American citizen is numb to it like the Mexico citizens are numb to the Cartel violence. The American media doesn’t report on the true crime within our inner cities to the degree they report on the school shootings simply because the media is organized with the government to put a much bigger target on taking the guns away from law-abiding citizens than it is from criminals.

It was an interesting conversation and perspective for both of us. Before we moved on to the next topic we realized both nations are extremely violent and the government is often times pulling the levers of said violence.

 

[PlanB]

It’s the same for Mexican citizens. The cartels are just like the inner city gangs or violent outlaw biker gangs. None of us go places where they associate.

The same low income inner city innocent individuals caught in the crossfire of Chicago are the same ones caught in the Cartel crossfire in Mexico.

I have a friend who lives in Ensenada. Her family is very wealthy. They own chemical factories in Mexico. She’s highly educated and does very well for herself with a home in Ensenada. She doesn’t frequent the “Chicago” areas of Mexico either.

When I first met her she was blown away at how much innocent deaths we have like the school shootings. Often it’s Cartel on Cartel in Mexico with the occasional innocent victim caught in the chaos.

I told her that the average American citizen is numb to it like the Mexico citizens are numb to the Cartel violence. The American media doesn’t report on the true crime within our inner cities to the degree they report on the school shootings simply because the media is organized with the government to put a much bigger target on taking the guns away from law-abiding citizens than it is from criminals.

It was an interesting conversation and perspective for both of us. Before we moved on to the next topic we realized both nations are extremely violent and the government is often times pulling the levers of said violence.

I think the difference is the reach and control the cartels have. They control the entire country and have more power than the government.

I have a friend who was a cop and now works for Blackwater. He has spent time down in Mexico doing personal protection for wealthy families. We have talked about the danger and corruption down there. They don't even trust the cops down there when they are working. Just seems like a very dangerous country if you are a target.

 

[Not So Fast]

Life is becoming meaningless isnt it???? Im sort of glad to be in the twilight of my years cause the next 20 years or so will be a mess unless all you young ins get your heads on right !!!!!!! By youngins I mean libs
NSF

 

[rickym20]

According to a lot of people it actually was all about one Mexican.. El Trebol I guess was the guys name..

Looking at that guy’s account on instagram, seems like he had some fans. Not sure it would have happened on this side but since he had a bounty on his head , glad it happened on Mexico territory vs while visiting this side.

This post was from his account in Glamis

 

[Boatymcboatface]

So will the stolen Utv's be returned to their rightful owners stateside?? Just curious how that will work. And yes FUCK mexico.

Lol if this is cartel related I’d Guess all these sxs where bought with cash.


Now if they were driving old washers and dryers then they definitely came from here. Those dudes pack 50 of those things in the back of a pickup truck!

 

[Mr. C]

Life is becoming meaningless isnt it???? Im sort of glad to be in the twilight of my years cause the next 20 years or so will be a mess unless all you young ins get your heads on right !!!!!!! By youngins I mean libs
NSF

I feel for my grandkids. And the later part of my daughter and sons. The way we are headed is just plain old fucking scarey. By time …. Well wait it is starting to effect me now. But. Hopefully I have 20 years left before I start shooting people.



Kind of forgot where I was posting. But south of the border or not. I worry for my youngins.

 

[DLC]

If you have wealth in Mexico your a target. You may not be a target today but very possible tomorrow….

it’s an opportunity to make some cash for people that have nothing to loose so ….. kid napped, Paid business pay for protection, road checkpoints etc

 

[gqchris]

I dunno Dave. With your high search ranking on this site and all your personal info readily available here, I wouldnt be discussing any details and names about this. Just my thought.

I know more details. But I sure aint advertising it.

But I think I already know your response to this already

 

[DC-88]

One of my boys in laws and their family are from Mex city, fairer skinned, upper class , educated, hard working owners of various businesses/ career paths. The in- laws themselves moved to the U.S. 18 years ago or so via him working for MSFT in other foreign countries, and working his way here where they got their dual citizenship . We get along good with them , and he has multiple stories of he and others in their family targeted in car jackings ( drive around to all the atm's and then be let go with the car type deals) as well as a home invasion at a business location where he and his brother in law were tied up all day . None cartel related, just the same emboldened scum as we are getting more and more of here in the states. He used to show me pics of a town somewhere inland in mainland Mex where he planned to retire in 5 years or so, but now says that plan is off the table due to the current status . Having said that, we are heading to Zihuat on a surf trip in a few weeks lol..... but I rent cars from the locals, and look like a dirt bag tourist the whole time on purpose just like back in the day when I was broke.

 

[rivrrts429]

I think the difference is the reach and control the cartels have. They control the entire country and have more power than the government.

I have a friend who was a cop and now works for Blackwater. He has spent time down in Mexico doing personal protection for wealthy families. We have talked about the danger and corruption down there. They don't even trust the cops down there when they are working. Just seems like a very dangerous country if you are a target.

Spot on and I agree.

I spend a lot of time in Mexico and a lot of it is rural Mexico. It’s always on my mind. I try to adhere to our American value of not to “fuck around and find out.”

It’s definitely not the U.S. and not for everyone. I refuse to take my kids.

 

[Screen Name G]

Thoughts and prayers

 

[Singleton]

One of my boys in laws and their family are from Mex city, fairer skinned, upper class , educated, hard working owners of various businesses/ career paths. The in- laws themselves moved to the U.S. 18 years ago or so via him working for MSFT in other foreign countries, and working his way here where they got their dual citizenship . We get along good with them , and he has multiple stories of he and others in their family targeted in car jackings ( drive around to all the atm's and then be let go with the car type deals) as well as a home invasion at a business location where he and his brother in law were tied up all day . None cartel related, just the same emboldened scum as we are getting more and more of here in the states. He used to show me pics of a town somewhere inland in mainland Mex where he planned to retire in 5 years or so, but now says that plan is off the table due to the current status . Having said that, we are heading to Zihuat on a surf trip in a few weeks lol..... but I rent cars from the locals, and look like a dirt bag tourist the whole time on purpose just like back in the day when I was broke.

100%. When I worked at KPMG, had a proposed assignment in Mexico City. They wanted to send me without security and zero K&R insurance. I ended up refusing the assignment. They sent a co-worked who got car jacked and then taken to multiple ATM’s, until the accounts were zero. Firmed made him whole, but it f’d with him big time. After that, the firm transferred the customer to the Dallas office from LA (higher % of Spanish speaking staff), and the Dallas office paid for K&R on staff and provided security unlike the LA office.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Final score: 10 dead, 9 wounded
One of the others killed was his girlfriend. There are also rumors about one of the other victims being tied into the cartels, as well as local government. At 7am this morning there was already a big narcomanta hanging from a business, vowing revenge...as always.

Also popped up that Trebol was always posting up taking the SxS's and meeting planes in the mountains, and was already being investigated by the US.

"El Trébol" of CAF-CJNG Showed Off His Luxuries On Social Networks

"Sol Prendido" for Borderland Beat Video translation is as follows: The armed attack registered Saturday during a racing rally in the San Vi...

www.borderlandbeat.com

 

[MPHSystems]

Right in broad daylight.

They DGAF who filmed them.

That’s the terrifying part.

 

[ka0tyk]

From tiktok

“@ericrobles2: El trebol was a potrector for el chapo’s son.who betrayed el chapo and went to a different cartel. So chapos son put a hit on trébol.”

 

[Screen Name G]

People kill people, guns don’t kill people. I offered thoughts and prayers so it’s all good.

 

[gordon]

No diff then it is here in my eyes. I like those Baja designs lights on the front of that car

 

[Bigbore500r]

As much as I don't trust Mexico as a vacation destination......this isn't much different than a drive-by shooting that takes out a gang member and a bunch of his friends.

They just do it in broad daylight over there. With automatic weapons. And a helicopter. In the daytime. While taking video. That's all

 

[monkeyswrench]

They just do it in broad daylight over there. With automatic weapons. And a helicopter. In the daytime. While taking video. That's all

Soooo, what you're saying is, they have better production quality, a higher budget than a typical gang here?
Damn Biden economy is even hindering thuggery

 

[Bigbore500r]

Soooo, what you're saying is, they have better production quality, a higher budget than a typical gang here?
Damn Biden economy is even hindering thuggery

C'mon man

 

[t&y]

So it sounds like all Cartel and or Associates involved. Victimless crime.

 

[jetboatperformance]

Crazy world we live in , when I was a kid my folks would exclaim ... "whats coming of this world?"

 

[rivermobster]

It’s the same for Mexican citizens. The cartels are just like the inner city gangs or violent outlaw biker gangs. None of us go places where they associate.

The same low income inner city innocent individuals caught in the crossfire of Chicago are the same ones caught in the Cartel crossfire in Mexico.

I have a friend who lives in Ensenada. Her family is very wealthy. They own chemical factories in Mexico. She’s highly educated and does very well for herself with a home in Ensenada. She doesn’t frequent the “Chicago” areas of Mexico either.

When I first met her she was blown away at how much innocent deaths we have like the school shootings. Often it’s Cartel on Cartel in Mexico with the occasional innocent victim caught in the chaos.

I told her that the average American citizen is numb to it like the Mexico citizens are numb to the Cartel violence. The American media doesn’t report on the true crime within our inner cities to the degree they report on the school shootings simply because the media is organized with the government to put a much bigger target on taking the guns away from law-abiding citizens than it is from criminals.

It was an interesting conversation and perspective for both of us. Before we moved on to the next topic we realized both nations are extremely violent and the government is often times pulling the levers of said violence.

Makes total sense.

The main difference for me is, I know where Compton is and I know to avoid that area, and why.

Remember years ago there was an Asian family on vacation, got lost, went down the wrong street in Compton and ended up shot to death in their car?

As much as I'd LOVE to explore Baja someday, I don't want to turn down the wrong street.

 

[C-Ya]

My wife and I have friends coming to visit us from Gothenburg Sweden. The only news they see about the US is about another mass shooting. Based on the news they see, they think there is a shooting almost everywhere, at all times in the US.

It’s interesting to see a foreigners perspective of the US. They look at the US, in the same way that many in this thread look at Mexico. Just some food for thought.

Our local news has reported that international tourism to Florida is effected by the mass shooting news, that is broadcast internationally.

I guess my point is, others look at us, the same way we look at the Mexico incident.

 

[monkeyswrench]

My wife and I have friends coming to visit us from Gothenburg Sweden. The only news they see about the US is about another mass shooting. Based on the news they see, they think there is a shooting almost everywhere, at all times in the US.

It’s interesting to see a foreigners perspective of the US. They look at the US, in the same way that many in this thread look at Mexico. Just some food for thought.

Our local news has reported that international tourism to Florida is effected by the mass shooting news, that is broadcast internationally.

I guess my point is, others look at us, the same way we look at the Mexico incident.

What's really kind of odd, is what news from what countries shows us (US citizens) in a bad light. Our "allies" are the ones pushing the "American ghetto" theory.
Then again, our enemies are too busy making Biden memes and laughing at our government to focus on much else.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

What's really kind of odd, is what news from what countries shows us (US citizens) in a bad light. Our "allies" are the ones pushing the "American ghetto" theory.
Then again, our enemies are too busy making Biden memes and laughing at our government to focus on much else.

Who shows us in a good light? Almost no one abroad.

 

[coolchange]

So what time is the actual war starting?
Should be a doozy.

 

[Fastdadtsmith]

And a helicopter.

It was only one helicopter!

 

[Albert]

Other countries catch a glimpse of the media we love to show . Like a President getting a shoe thrown at him another getting a blow job, one getting arrested and one forgetting how to put a sentence together. Got love our media but that’s the kinda shit people love to watch. Making fun of the President . So yes they think we are idiots ..

 

[Ziggy]

My wife and I have friends coming to visit us from Gothenburg Sweden. The only news they see about the US is about another mass shooting. Based on the news they see, they think there is a shooting almost everywhere, at all times in the US.

It’s interesting to see a foreigners perspective of the US. They look at the US, in the same way that many in this thread look at Mexico. Just some food for thought.

Our local news has reported that international tourism to Florida is effected by the mass shooting news, that is broadcast internationally.

I guess my point is, others look at us, the same way we look at the Mexico incident.

100% spot on. Our travels have proven this point as many people have asked us if we are afraid to even leave our house.

 

[Desert Whaler]

Our local news has reported that international tourism to Florida is effected by the mass shooting news, that is broadcast internationally.

I heard that too . . . . the timing is a little ironic seeing DeSantis is supposed to announce his campaign run soon.

 

[rivrrts429]

Makes total sense.

The main difference for me is, I know where Compton is and I know to avoid that area, and why.

Remember years ago there was an Asian family on vacation, got lost, went down the wrong street in Compton and ended up shot to death in their car?

As much as I'd LOVE to explore Baja someday, I don't want to turn down the wrong street.

Ya it’s a good idea to travel with someone familiar and speaks the language. My best friend was born in Mexico and lived their until 5th grade. We met in High School and have been best friends ever since. I’m under the impression he has a “cousin” in every town from the border to the tip of Baja

I’ve never felt unsafe with him. Not even in the slightest and I’ve been there 100’s of times if I had to guess between racing or just vacations.

Maybe it’s just a matter of time and a game of odds but so is my weekly office meetings in downtown LA lol

 

[HTTP404]

At least the mass shootings in Mexico are mostly targeted attacks. Here you get crazy people shooting up malls and schools.

 

[Englewood]

Mexico is bad because the criminals are killing each other? Meanwhile we lose 75,000/yr to Fentanyl and very few care or do anything about it.

 

[Ragged Edge]

So yes they think we are idiots ..

Well... 81 million of us are.