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My neighbor is 89 years old and has been widowed for about 10 years now. She still drives, cooks, walks the neighborhood at times and is in general good health minus some memory issues at times. During the last heavy storms we had she got a couple of small roof leaks that were temporarily bandaged up due to it being 23 years old. Unpronounced to me she had a roofing company stop by last week to give her an estimate for recover or a tear-off/new roof. When the sales guy went over the numbers with her she invited me in her house to listen in. Well after a 90 minute sales pitch I asked him to get to the point being cost. After all the BS discounts he proposed it came down to $26k for recover and $38k for tear-off/new....she almost fell out of her chair. Now she's on a fixed income and cannot afford a recover much less a tear off. I want to help her out with this cost which is about $4k for materials (16 squares) of shingles/underlayment delivered/loaded. I'll provide the labor but thinking about setting up a gofundme to help cover the material cost. I've never done anything like gofundme so need some advice from those that have been down this road before. What's the best way to approach this goal in helping her out?

TIA

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BTW, that $4k quote was from South Coast Shingle in LB so if anyone knows a better place as far as pricing I'm open to it.
We are in Lakewood.
 

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Wish I were closer...I'd be down for shingling. (Never going to get rid of my old coil guns.) From where you are, Southcoast Shingle may be one of the cheaper suppliers that can load.
They are my goto for roofing materials. Just want to see if there is competitor that could save us some $$. I DO NEED IT LOADED as I'm to damn old to carry those bundles up a ladder...LOL.
 

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They are my goto for roofing materials. Just want to see if there is competitor that could save us some $$. I DO NEED IT LOADED as I'm to damn old to carry those bundles up a ladder...LOL.
One or two bundles, not a problem. 10 or 12 square? Hell no, not anymore :oops:

I was just getting ready to page @rmarion ;)
 

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Whatever @Taboma says about me 🤣. I can tear off, sheet and shingle. Figure 4-5 guys at 3-400 a guy a day for a tear off, re sheet and shingle.

Can’t do it for free but it wouldn’t even be close to that quoted number.
 

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Call Alberto I got his name from this website. In the last month he has done two roof's for me he is working in Bellflower today and tomorrow
 

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That's a great offer but unfortunately she doesn't have that $$$ and neither do I. 🤣

Good for you looking out for an elderly widowed neighbor.
That is very honoring and highly dignified.

I’m in for either helping with purchase of materials or throwing in for steaks and liquid refreshments for anyone that helps.
I’d help but in probably a little too far away……
 

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Couple small leaks already bandaged. In So Cal. I get it but… throw a couple squares in and call it done.
 

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all I’m going to say is everyone should get roof estimate for shits and giggles. Roofing is expensive in CA. Just had mine repaired a few weeks back. Best price I got was 9500 for unlicensed guys. But they showed up looking like a roofer more than the 6 other quotes I got. For underlayment replacement and relay existing tiles and replace broken ones just under 10 squares.

It’s the phrase for CA. It’s the cost of doing business in the state.

For the record I went with a licensed roofer.
 

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all I’m going to say is everyone should get roof estimate for shits and giggles. Roofing is expensive in CA. Just had mine repaired a few weeks back. Best price I got was 9500 for unlicensed guys. But they showed up looking like a roofer more than the 6 other quotes I got. For underlayment replacement and relay existing tiles and replace broken ones just under 10 squares.

It’s the phrase for CA. It’s the cost of doing business in the state.

For the record I went with a licensed roofer.
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm surprised tile repair hasn't gone up at the same rate as comp. Tile re-lay is all labor really, and takes some skill. The underlayment is the bulk of the waterproofing. Did a few with tiles that were 100 years old for "historical" areas.
 

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IMO

when you help someone out... last thing you do is CUT CORNERS .... it's YOUR integrity on the line.

They will be calling YOU!!! if anything happens.

But then... that's just IMO..LOL
 

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Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm surprised tile repair hasn't gone up at the same rate as comp. Tile re-lay is all labor really, and takes some skill. The underlayment is the bulk of the waterproofing. Did a few with tiles that were 100 years old for "historical" areas.
Licensed contractors started at 3k more than that and the highest was 18k.
 

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IMO

when you help someone out... last thing you do is CUT CORNERS .... it's YOUR integrity on the line.

They will be calling YOU!!! if anything happens.

But then... that's just IMO..LOL
Yeah, ask Brad Pitt about his houses in New Orleans. 😱
 

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She is investing in the house to leave to an heir at some point. Maybe they should be brought into the conversation, maybe they want Henry’s or maybe the best???
They are very much aware. Oldest daughter (69) is on board as her caregiver and her son (67) recently found out he has stage 4 pancreatic cancer with 4-6 months to live....shity situation as you should never have bury your child...she lost their youngest daughter in 1995...she's a really good caring person that I consider family.
 

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They are very much aware. Oldest daughter (69) is on board as her caregiver and her son (67) recently found out he has stage 4 pancreatic cancer with 4-6 months to live....shity situation as you should never have bury your child...she lost their youngest daughter in 1995...she's a really good caring person that I consider family.
Is a reverse mortgage on the table? Hate bringing it up but it is an option.
 

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Is a reverse mortgage on the table? Hate bringing it up but it is an option.
For a $3-4k investment...ain't gonna happen. She lives comfortably at her pace...not a big spender but doesn't have $25-40k for a $4-5k repair. I'm doing what I feel has to be done at this point and I'll feel damn good about it once done...

WTF has happened to America as most of use knew it. Hell growing up in Tennessee you were destined to help a neighbor build a house, barn, fence you name it and it got done no questions ask...fuk me I feel old now...LOL
 
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For a $3-4k investment...ain't gonna happen. She lives comfortably at her pace...not a big spender but doesn't have $25-40k for a $4-5k repair. I'm doing what I feel has to be done at this point and I'll feel damn good about it once done...

WTF has happened to America as most of use knew it. He'll growing up in Tennessee you were destined to help a neighbor build a house, barn, fence you name it and it got done no questions ask...fuk me I feel old now...LOL
@NicPaus can hit the cost on the money. I think you have 10k in material and then whatever in labor. Assuming it needs to be re sheeted.


I did our 1100 sq ft house for $7500 in 2018. That included new plywood, shingles and almost free labor lol.
 

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For a $3-4k investment...ain't gonna happen. She lives comfortably at her pace...not a big spender but doesn't have $25-40k for a $4-5k repair. I'm doing what I feel has to be done at this point and I'll feel damn good about it once done...

WTF has happened to America as most of use knew it. He'll growing up in Tennessee you were destined to help a neighbor build a house, barn, fence you name it and it got done no questions ask...fuk me I feel old now...LOL
I don't really know my neighbors but for friends or family I'm always the 1st to volunteer on any project. I'll donate my time, the few skills I have and hard work and even money when needed to help. It's just the way it is and always will be. Luckily I have good friends and family that don't take advantage and will do the same for me if needed.

Good on you to help out!
 

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Figure around $275 a square for shingles, felt paper, flashings and drip edge. Plus labor. Wood replacement and plywood if needed.

Material has gone nuts same with insurance. Last roof was 33 squares and 9k for above not including wood and plywood. From JB wholesale Chris who I have bought roofs from for over 20 years.

That quote is high and fuck that guy for trying to take advantage of a elderly lady. Your a good Guy Dave glad you were there to keep her from signing. You have any questions or need anything just text Me.
 

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IMO

when you help someone out... last thing you do is CUT CORNERS .... it's YOUR integrity on the line.

They will be calling YOU!!! if anything happens.

But then... that's just IMO..LOL
Yep. No good deed goes unpunished.
 

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BTW, that $4k quote was from South Coast Shingle in LB so if anyone knows a better place as far as pricing I'm open to it.
We are in Lakewood.
call to laguna niguel office talk to brandon and tell him the deal he may cut you a break.

16 squares aint bad my last home was 15 was a straight up and down deal no valleys to deal with.
 

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Is an insurance claim not an option? I would assume if a roofer and the insurance company have a good relationship he can pitch a sale to the insurance company for coverage.

I just had a guy stop by a couple weeks ago to look at some concerns. He did it for free and only asked that if the claim was accepted that he could have job. Turned out my issues weren't as bad as i thought and he said everything really looked good.

Just another avenue to potentially save some money...
 

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Is an insurance claim not an option? I would assume if a roofer and the insurance company have a good relationship he can pitch a sale to the insurance company for coverage.

I just had a guy stop by a couple weeks ago to look at some concerns. He did it for free and only asked that if the claim was accepted that he could have job. Turned out my issues weren't as bad as i thought and he said everything really looked good.

Just another avenue to potentially save some money...
Insurance would only cover it if it's from storm damage. Wind blew off the shingles etc.

Pretty easy to tell when they are bad from age.
 

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Couple ideas. Add whoever supports materials to the go fund me. Offer advertising, both physical as well as rdp and see if they want to help. Get some buddies, explain the karma ( yes, its very real ) to them on both the financial and physical parts of joining in to help you defray costs. No matter what, get it done for her. You will be rewarded 10 times over. There's nothing that will make you realize how much you can impact the direction of the world than by helping someone who both needs and deserves it. Your example to everyone that knows you will be what really matters here. Good luck. These are the times I wish I lived out there. Ill bet there's several retired guys that would love to have a few days of work/fun helping you. This is a great way to get the word out
 

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For a $3-4k investment...ain't gonna happen. She lives comfortably at her pace...not a big spender but doesn't have $25-40k for a $4-5k repair. I'm doing what I feel has to be done at this point and I'll feel damn good about it once done...

WTF has happened to America as most of use knew it. Hell growing up in Tennessee you were destined to help a neighbor build a house, barn, fence you name it and it got done no questions ask...fuk me I feel old now...LOL

Still that way in the area of TN that my place is in.

You are a good guy for helping. I help the elderly as well. If it were closer I would help with labor. I am in for some go fund me.
 

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My neighbor is 89 years old and has been widowed for about 10 years now. She still drives, cooks, walks the neighborhood at times and is in general good health minus some memory issues at times. During the last heavy storms we had she got a couple of small leaks that I temporarily bandaged up due to it being 23 years old. Unpronounced to me she had a roofing company stop by last week to give her an estimate for recover or a tear-off/new roof. When the sales guy went over the numbers with her she invited me in her house to listen in. Well after a 90 minute sales pitch I asked him to get to the point being cost. After all the BS discounts he proposed it came down to $26k for recover and $38k for tear-off/new....she almost fell out of her chair. Now she's on a fixed income and cannot afford a recover much less a tear off. I want to help her out with this cost which is about $4k for materials (16 squares) of shingles/underlayment delivered/loaded. I'll provide the labor but thinking about setting up a gofundme to help cover the material cost. I've never done anything like gofundme so need some advice from those that have been down this road before. What's the best way to approach this goal in helping her out?

TIA

DM

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My neighbor is 89 years old and has been widowed for about 10 years now. She still drives, cooks, walks the neighborhood at times and is in general good health minus some memory issues at times. During the last heavy storms we had she got a couple of small leaks that I temporarily bandaged up due to it being 23 years old. Unpronounced to me she had a roofing company stop by last week to give her an estimate for recover or a tear-off/new roof. When the sales guy went over the numbers with her she invited me in her house to listen in. Well after a 90 minute sales pitch I asked him to get to the point being cost. After all the BS discounts he proposed it came down to $26k for recover and $38k for tear-off/new....she almost fell out of her chair. Now she's on a fixed income and cannot afford a recover much less a tear off. I want to help her out with this cost which is about $4k for materials (16 squares) of shingles/underlayment delivered/loaded. I'll provide the labor but thinking about setting up a gofundme to help cover the material cost. I've never done anything like gofundme so need some advice from those that have been down this road before. What's the best way to approach this goal in helping her out?

TIA

DM
Shoot me address so I can eagle view and know which branch is closest. My parent company is a massive roofing distributor… I’ll bury the cost if at all possible. Send me a BOM and I’ll see what I can do tomorrow.

This is like the cocksucker from renewal by Anderson Tempe quoting an 84 year old 18k for 4 windows…. I nipped that and the sales guy came back for seconds… cost of those four windows was under $3k…. Shit like this irks my ass.
 

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Y'all on here are good men. 1400 Sq ft house my neighbor just did was $20K. Best of luck on this. Raising Barns still ALIVE in SoCal. That's God's work Boys. God bless you all.
 

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I wouldn’t use go fund me because they charge a hefty percentage. Also check about the tax Liabilities. There are other free alternative.
 

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Neighbor has done 3 roofs on street last month for other neighbor's, all in 8-9k, might be good neighbor discount, but pretty straight up dude. That doesn't include tear off, 2 of places he went over top but the last one is was 2k for tear off.
 
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