loaded incorrectly?

[fast99]

 

[WhatExit?]

Vin drove that here about a week ago

 

[CLdrinker]

Vin drove that here about a week ago

Cant remember if this is the exact truck from a week ago or not. It I have seen 3 Rams like this recently. White dually, white single wheel and this 2 ton dually.

 

[Go-Fly]

I wonder if you hit the jacks in the back, if you could straighten it out?

 

[v6toy4x]

1165 eagle cap 5K dry weight triple slide out, thats a big load, needs a 5500

 

[Ziggy]

No more high-centering.
See, glass half full

 

[Marios Metalworks]

No more high-centering.
See, glass half full

Although true the departure angle is less than ideal.
See, glass half bent

 

[timstoy]

Camper tie downs did their job!

 

[Flying_Lavey]

1165 eagle cap 5K dry weight triple slide out, thats a big load, needs a 5500

Yeah, looks like the max payload on a crew cab 3500 is only 6180 just filling the water and 2 passengers puts you right at max capacity of the truck.

 

[Drew]

How does that happen?

 

[arch stanton]

Yeah, looks like the max payload on a crew cab 3500 is only 6180 just filling the water and 2 passengers puts you right at max capacity of the truck.

the problem is just not that the max capacity was exceeded its that the weight was not distributed correctly. Hell the weight is behind the rear Axel the truck would be very light on the front Axel it had to handle funny

 

[MPHSystems]

Should have got an F150.

 

[RogerThat99]

Cant remember if this is the exact truck from a week ago or not. It I have seen 3 Rams like this recently. White dually, white single wheel and this 2 ton dually.

I have also seen the white dually. Not sure if I have seen the single wheel. Strange they are all Dodges.

 

[spectra3279]

All that power on acceleration caused it to crumple in the middle

 

[Crazyhippy]

It's a drag racing evolution. First there were wrinkle wall tires, now wrinkle wall chassis!

 

[pkrrvr619]

So many questions.

Does it happen gradually or all at once?

What must that sounds like when it bends?

Wild.

 

[retaocleg]

 

[Jonas Grumby]

Photochopped. If it was setup to cause that, it would wheelie coming off a stop sign.

 

[pwerwagn]

I have also seen the white dually. Not sure if I have seen the single wheel. Strange they are all Dodges.

The other thread on here had pics of a few fords in it with the same problem

 

[RandyH]

two Fat tire Ebikes cantilevered at 9 foot out. That explains a few things about the "who".

 

[Flying_Lavey]

the problem is just not that the max capacity was exceeded its that the weight was not distributed correctly. Hell the weight is behind the rear Axel the truck would be very light on the front Axel it had to handle funny

I'm not too sure the CG is behind the axle. Yes it has a large rear overhang, but there is also the cabover as well. I couldn't find any diagram that shows where the CG is on that camper. Just says CG is 56" which typically refers to the height if the CG from the bottom of the camper.

 

[fast99]

Bent Ford.

https://www.gmsquarebody.com/attachments/whe9jkm-png.287125/

 

[Dan Lorenze]

Photochopped. If it was setup to cause that, it would wheelie coming off a stop sign.

I was thinking the same thing... Something about the photo doesn't look right.

 

[ElAzul]

We fulltime in our RV and camp host once in a while. Not saying anything against this guy but the shit we see almost daily is staggering usually accompanied with ZERO understanding of their equipment, physics, etc.

 

[WhatExit?]

At least he’s got traction boards up top

 

[Crazyhippy]

Photochopped. If it was setup to cause that, it would wheelie coming off a stop sign.

You're assuming it wasn't... Driver was probably really happy with how easy the steering wheel was to turn too.

 

[v6toy4x]

I'm not too sure the CG is behind the axle. Yes it has a large rear overhang, but there is also the cabover as well. I couldn't find any diagram that shows where the CG is on that camper. Just says CG is 56" which typically refers to the height if the CG from the bottom of the camper.

From eagle cap

What’s center of gravity and how is it measured on your campers?​

The center of gravity (CG) or also called center of balance is the balance point of a camper, from front to rear with standard equipment, full water and propane tanks and no options. You determine the center of gravity of a camper by measuring from where the camper contacts the front of the truck bed and measuring backward towards the tailgate.

Eagle cap 1165 has a COG of 61.5" which puts it around 4-4 1/2" behind rear axle centerline.

 

[Backlash]

That bicycle hitch rack prevented a catastrophe.

 

[Justsomeguy]

Broken Ram 3500 Dually Shows a Camper Can Still Overload a Big Truck

This Ram 3500 is awaiting a $17,000 repair job after an enormous slide-in camper snapped its frame.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Blackmagic94]

Lol so the guy went off the quote for a single cab 4x2 hemi. Meaning the truck that has the highest payload due to the lightest weight of a ram.



Yeah. That’s rams fault lol.

 

[v6toy4x]

I have had slide in campers for 35 years, the Eagle Cap, Host, Arctic Fox and other double and triple slides are amazing BUT they need the 5500 or F550 kind of stuff to reliably haul them. The wieght adds up fast and no one ever considers what tongue weight does. Its right up there with people thinking their motor-homes can tow 15K because the hitch is rated at 15K. Of course the salesman are no help at all, just as ignorant as most buyers.

 

[spectra3279]

I have had slide in campers for 35 years, the Eagle Cap, Host, Arctic Fox and other double and triple slides are amazing BUT they need the 5500 or F550 kind of stuff to reliably haul them. The wieght adds up fast and no one ever considers what tongue weight does. Its right up there with people thinking their motor-homes can tow 15K because the hitch is rated at 15K. Of course the salesman are no help at all, just as ignorant as most buyers.

Sales men are worse because they will say anything to get the sale

 

[Sleek-Jet]

You don't need a new frame, just some 1/2 inch plate, a plasma cutter and a good welder. That shit would be way better than stock....

 

[Flying_Lavey]

From eagle cap

What’s center of gravity and how is it measured on your campers?​

The center of gravity (CG) or also called center of balance is the balance point of a camper, from front to rear with standard equipment, full water and propane tanks and no options. You determine the center of gravity of a camper by measuring from where the camper contacts the front of the truck bed and measuring backward towards the tailgate.

Eagle cap 1165 has a COG of 61.5" which puts it around 4-4 1/2" behind rear axle centerline.

I'm glad you found that. I read somewhere before the CG on that site (I can't remember which mfg it was) the CG was measured from the floor up.

That interview with the guy is pretty telling just how ignorant he is to his load. And the fact that he's contemplating the 5500 tells me someone pointed out his ACTUALY payload ratings.

 

[v6toy4x]

I'm glad you found that. I read somewhere before the CG on that site (I can't remember which mfg it was) the CG was measured from the floor up.

That interview with the guy is pretty telling just how ignorant he is to his load. And the fact that he's contemplating the 5500 tells me someone pointed out his ACTUALY payload ratings.

I have a single slide arctic fox on a GEN 2 dodge 3500, with tongue weight I am over 1200lbs, knew it going in. My frame started to crack right behind the cab passenger side. There is a 5/16 hole factory drilled in the top flange right infront of the front bed mount, the crack started there and traveled down right next to the bed mount, you could not really see it from the outside but it was obvious from the inside of the frame. The only thing holding it together was the bracket for my torklift tie downs that happened to bolt on either side of the crack. I caught it just in time and since my CG is ahead of the axle the frame was loaded downward and would pop spmething terrible when I backed up. I sectioned out a piece of another frame and fish plated the backside. Driver side looks fine but no hole on the top flange for the crack to start. I personally know of 3 people with GEN 2s same problem. I would have gone 5500 if they were available back then??

Time to upgrade is 2025--I am back and forth on an Eagle Cap 1200 on a new 5500 or the Dynamax Isata5 28SS or the Dynamax Europa if they start using the larger L9/DD8 motor options.

 

[gottaminute?]

maybe this should be in another thread but I figured it was important so....

friend arrived to pick up a new toy and his trailer seemed a bit low in front. a little bit of looking uncovered this. Both sides of his receiver hitch broken. he really does'nt heavy tow. probably just years of bad California roads and bouncing on the ball. Granted , it is a 20 yr old dodge 3500.
the trailer hitch guy (all new and welded to frame) showed him a dozen other take-offs cracked or broken in the same manner. considering how many of our safety chains hook ti the receiver bracket and not the frame, things could go south (or north, west, east ) real fast.

take a few minutes and check yours.

 

[fast99]

I have a single slide arctic fox on a GEN 2 dodge 3500, with tongue weight I am over 1200lbs, knew it going in. My frame started to crack right behind the cab passenger side. There is a 5/16 hole factory drilled in the top flange right infront of the front bed mount, the crack started there and traveled down right next to the bed mount, you could not really see it from the outside but it was obvious from the inside of the frame. The only thing holding it together was the bracket for my torklift tie downs that happened to bolt on either side of the crack. I caught it just in time and since my CG is ahead of the axle the frame was loaded downward and would pop spmething terrible when I backed up. I sectioned out a piece of another frame and fish plated the backside. Driver side looks fine but no hole on the top flange for the crack to start. I personally know of 3 people with GEN 2s same problem. I would have gone 5500 if they were available back then??

Time to upgrade is 2025--I am back and forth on an Eagle Cap 1200 on a new 5500 or the Dynamax Isata5 28SS or the Dynamax Europa if they start using the larger L9/DD8 motor options.

When our tow truck frames broke it was right behind the rear cab mount. Always started at a factory hole in the flange or flange notch. They were relatively easy to repair if caught early. People, when under trucks doing oil changes or whatever just take a second or 2 with a flashlight and look around.

 

[v6toy4x]

maybe this should be in another thread but I figured it was important so.... View attachment 1185020 View attachment 1185021
friend arrived to pick up a new toy and his trailer seemed a bit low in front. a little bit of looking uncovered this. Both sides of his receiver hitch broken. he really does'nt heavy tow. probably just years of bad California roads and bouncing on the ball. Granted , it is a 20 yr old dodge 3500.
the trailer hitch guy (all new and welded to frame) showed him a dozen other take-offs cracked or broken in the same manner. considering how many of our safety chains hook ti the receiver bracket and not the frame, things could go south (or north, west, east ) real fast.

take a few minutes and check yours.

Holy S**t batman, that looks scary too!

"Hey honey there is a trailer that looks just like ours passing us on the right!"

 

[stingray11]

Must be all the battery weight in the E bike.

 

[Danger Dave]