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Hey, if you want your kids to rule the roost and worship white boy rick ass fucking hogs on video go right ahead.
Just don’t bitch about where society is today and how the younger generations have lost their way.
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My kid just got an earful about their room not being clean. If I go back up there and its still not clean, there will be hell to pay.

What I won't worry about is, what music is playing on the radio. They've probably heard worse from me. Yet somehow she's never even said a bad word that I've ever heard. She's kind and respectful. But we still got time I supposed for it all to change. He's too young to figure out just yet.

But he seems just like me. So I'll encourage him to do what he's going to do, but around us in a controlled environment. If I'm honest, that's half the reason I do this river and desert stuff. Giving them the outlets to have fun that I never had. But do it with mom and dad where I know they are safe. You said it yourself, I'm sure they did things behind my back. You couldn't fathom the things I did behind their back. I don't want that. It's a very risky line. I could have easily not been here today. That doesn't mean no discipline or consequences. Now if his kid comes home mimic said rappers behavior, then comes consequences.

But to be fair, I've never hit em up, killed Kim, no one has ever said boy I wonder how he could just kill a man. Sometimes I will ask my wife to bounce her ass up and down to the floor though. Shake that shiz till she can't no mo. There will definitely be some skeet skeet happening after that.

Now their mother wouldn't let them go more out of fear that some nut job will pin everyone down in a vulnerable environment, not what the performer is saying. Might have something to do with the fact that if we hadn't had children we probably would have been in Vegas that night with friends.
 

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My oldest at the Louvre last year.
She knew who Davinci was when she was 14.
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Leonardo DaVinci. Then Rembrandt.
Same as today.

Musicians?
Zeppelin
Sabbath
Bowie
Mott
Never once did I see them fake ass fuck any hogs on stage or in any of their films.
It was clean debauchery.
If you plan on making comparisons all you are going to prove is how far society has deteriorated.
My dad did not like my choices in music.
The only one he questioned morally was Bowie.
I grew up on Merle, Willy, Waylon, pride etc.
hated all that shit.

The only thing that has changed is the video quality and past listeners have gotten older.
 

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The only thing that has changed is the video quality and past listeners have gotten older.
What about the simulated ass fucking and blowjobs?
The endless profanity? The cop hating? The dope?
I never heard or saw that shit back in the day.
14 seems a little young to me to be continuously exposed to that?

Tell yourself whatever you have to, more than video quality has changed.
 

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What about the simulated ass fucking and blowjobs?
The endless profanity? The cop hating? The dope?
I never heard or saw that shit back in the day.
14 seems a little young to me to be continuously exposed to that?

Tell yourself whatever you have to, more than video quality has changed.
Fook the police? Nwa? Mr. Brownstone?
 

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Personally I prefer Andrew Lloyd webber. Evita is my favorite. I still remember a lot of it by memory.

Simon and garfunkel isn't to bad either. Oddly one was about Paul Simon tripping on acid in his room.

I guess my dad wasn't so bad....he had decent music taste.
 

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14. Well I had been to several musicals by then. Been to the lourve and really a lot Europe. Was still in private school. But yeah, I definitely had heard guns n roses, 2 pac idk if nwa yet. Might have been a year or 2 later. Definitely Greenday and Linkin park. My dad loooooveed Linkin park.
 

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And I'm looking back at all the rap songs from then. I definitely knew those. Hell at 14 I was trying to, "grind" to some of those songs with someone's 14 year old daughter who was also listening to said songs.

Edit to add: what were we thinking? Some of these are just terrible. I'm laughing.
 

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And I'm looking back at all the rap songs from then. I definitely knew those. Hell at 14 I was trying to, "grind" to some of those songs with someone's 14 year old daughter who was also listening to said songs.

Edit to add: what were we thinking? Some of these are just terrible. I'm laughing.
Everyone is an Angel lol
 

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Never forget I installed my first good stereo at 17. Finally got the subs firing at like 10pm bumping too short and my mom came out of the house slammed her fists on the hood of my car ejected the cd and snapped it…l

Not sure if it was the timeline or the music but I never did that again..haha
How many too short concerts did you attend?
 

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What about the simulated ass fucking and blowjobs?
The endless profanity? The cop hating? The dope?
I never heard or saw that shit back in the day.
14 seems a little young to me to be continuously exposed to that?

Tell yourself whatever you have to, more than video quality has changed.

Not sure how far back we’re going but NWA, Biggie, Tupac, Eminem were very explicit and vulgar.

If we go all the way back to Elvis we can talk about cheating on spouses. And between Elvis and today’s rap we have having sex with under age girls in rock n roll. Soo……?
 

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Not sure how far back we’re going but NWA, Biggie, Tupac, Eminem were very explicit and vulgar.

If we go all the way back to Elvis we can talk about cheating on spouses. And between Elvis and today’s rap we have having sex with under age girls in rock n roll. Soo……?
Yep. DMX and Eminem is what i grew up with.
 

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What about the simulated ass fucking and blowjobs?
The endless profanity? The cop hating? The dope?
I never heard or saw that shit back in the day.
14 seems a little young to me to be continuously exposed to that?

Tell yourself whatever you have to, more than video quality has changed.
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ummmmmmm 👆😂
 

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Yeah my dad didn’t like that at all. 😂
And he made sure I knew it whether I liked it or not.
Back then I’d sneak out of my room and watch the midnight special because that’s all there was.
I thought the 1984 roadshow was life changing.

Raise em how you see fit, but just remember, everything matters.
Whether they see these things all the time, whether they hear these things all the time, the bottom line is do they know if you approve or do not approve?
It plants a deeper seed in them for life knowing that, even if they do watch and listen to these things, and are exposed to the negative influences, it is a minor vice and not a way of life…and they know that from dad.
If dad is nonchalant and approves or encourages it, then it’s an approved part of life…talking like a thug and treating females like whores and all the rest of that shit.
If dad says “oh well I can’t stop it” then they know that dad can’t or won’t stop anything that they want to do. It’s a mindset.
Everything we do as parents matters.
We can’t shield them from everything nor should we.
But I think we have to demonstrate to them what is right and what is wrong.
I would not give my permission for my 14 yo to go to that show, and they would know exactly why.

On a side note Mick Ronson remains one of the smartest most talented composers of my generation.
Peerless almost. RIP Mick. You were truly one of a kind.
 

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Not sure how far back we’re going but NWA, Biggie, Tupac, Eminem were very explicit and vulgar.

If we go all the way back to Elvis we can talk about cheating on spouses. And between Elvis and today’s rap we have having sex with under age girls in rock n roll. Soo……?
Is it your goal to win an argument?
I’m stating my opinions.
Comparing that kid to Elvis are we?
Biggy?
Pac?
Are you even serious?

But the topic was is it ok for a 14 year old to attend.
I would not let my 14 year old go to any of the shows you list no matter what year it was.
 
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Had to edit my last post.

He ended up not going. Wife spoke with the Top Golf dad. They agreed they shouldn't go and he texted the boys and told them he didn't think it was a good idea.
i hope he see’s it isn’t just you from this.
It wasn’t a good idea a 14 year old be there.
I remember being super pissed off at my parents not letting me go with the (older) kid across the street to the US festival.
I didn’t get it then. I think I was 13 or 14?

Life experience later told me they weren’t wrong.
I know he will see it one day.👍
 

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Had to edit my last post.

He ended up not going. Wife spoke with the Top Golf dad. They agreed they shouldn't go and he texted the boys and told them he didn't think it was a good idea.
What’s your boy think? Is he really disappointed or does he get where his parents are coming from?
 

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Is it your goal to win an argument?
I’m stating my opinions.
Comparing that kid to Elvis are we?
Biggy?
Pac?
Are you even serious?

But the topic was is it ok for a 14 year old to attend.
I would not let my 14 year old go to any of the shows you list no matter what year it was.
Not trying to win anything.

Just pointing out that all of those artists 50s-2000s were causing pearl clutching.

My generation laughs at Elvis being a sex symbol meanwhile in the 50s networks didn’t want him on TV lol.

Kids who grew up in the 60s-80s champion how they were out tearing up the town and their parents never knew where they were. The music was great, the beer was better, the cars were faster yada yada yada lol.

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Fook the police? Nwa? Mr. Brownstone?
Don’t forget Too Live Crew. They were as nasty as they wanted to be. I remember us kids passing around boot leg cassettes of that to listen to in our walkmans.

Or how about Too close by Next. Go back and listen to the words of that song. It has to be the raunchiest song that ever played nonstop on the radio.
 

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tell him in just a few more years he can move to Compton and listen to all that crap he wants.
 
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