Paradox
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I remember when Miller’s Landing (in Bass Lake) use to sell their 2 year old rental Tige ski boats for $18,000 each.
My boat was built for the owner of Mirage Boats in Washington. Less than 10 257's Trovares were built. Older 27 Intruders had twins, not many of those either. I've made and installed the scoops , thinking one time to install Superchargers this boat originally had B&M's with 383 trokers. The 6.2's are so reliable, I scrapped the idea of spending more $$$, albeit the scoops are great to keep the heat under the hatch controlled. You've probabaly noticed how straight up the hatch could be set by moving the ram to different positions to have more room to access . for maintenance.I've always loved your boat. Really like the scoops. Can you post a photo of the engines? I don't think anyone even makes a twin engine boat under 30 feet anymore.
Just the price of the boat doesn’t take into account the cost of Insurance, fuel, maintenance storage? tow vehicles or any other toys or accessories associated with boating like lifejackets, ropes, fenders, beach stuff or anything else.Ya when you put it like that true. But people technically don’t need boats such as most of us have. You can get a Yamaha or scarab 22-24 ft for 50-70k new. Even the lower end axis wake boats are 90k
That’s true. When you factor in everything for us. Ours is paid off but between storage insurance and maint we are prob 8-10k a year just to own before any issuesJust the price of the boat doesn’t take into account the cost of Insurance, fuel, maintenance storage? tow vehicles or any other toys or accessories associated with boating like lifejackets, ropes, fenders, beach stuff or anything else.
My insurance is about $1,500 a year and my annual service is about $3,000 a year if I don’t need batteries or anything special. Storage is at my house for free if you can call it that and I don’t have a payment. So before I even touch the water I’m at $4,500 and then you add in fuel and everything else. I mean it’s a lot of money per hour, but we all know that going in.That’s true. When you factor in everything for us. Ours is paid off but between storage insurance and maint we are prob 8-10k a year just to own before any issues
How are sales for you?
Adds up. My slip is 5k a year plus maintenance, insurance, detail and any repairs. Can't imagine not having a boat though.My insurance is about $1,500 a year and my annual service is about $3,000 a year if I don’t need batteries or anything special. Storage is at my house for free if you can call it that and I don’t have a payment. So before I even touch the water I’m at $4,500 and then you add in fuel and everything else. I mean it’s a lot of money per hour, but we all know that going in.
Insurance for us is 3200 storage is 4020. Service on the motors was 1300+ a mid season gear lune change at 400 ish. Like you said we all know this going in. In my opinion it’s worth it to me and my fam.My insurance is about $1,500 a year and my annual service is about $3,000 a year if I don’t need batteries or anything special. Storage is at my house for free if you can call it that and I don’t have a payment. So before I even touch the water I’m at $4,500 and then you add in fuel and everything else. I mean it’s a lot of money per hour, but we all know that going in.
Hopefully it’ll start to pick up as we go into warmer months.Not dead but not like past years.
With only 105 hours I’d say closer to $30k would be a good deal. Ultra jets demand all the money in the small bow rider market.For example, is this market at 36k?
https://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/threads/2002-ultra-21-stealth-jet.306365/
I cant wrap my head around that!With only 105 hours I’d say closer to $30k would be a good deal. Ultra jets demand all the money in the small bow rider market.
River neighbor bought a LX not nearly as nice. Purple green for over 40 during covid.I cant wrap my head around that!Which is what screws my ability to get a gauge on this market. Is this like classic cars now I suppose?
That’s a great boatFor example, is this market at 36k?
https://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/threads/2002-ultra-21-stealth-jet.306365/
Finding a clean maintained low hours boat is worth all the money they are asking in my opinion. I do not mind paying above “market” when they are truly turnkey.For example, is this market at 36k?
https://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/threads/2002-ultra-21-stealth-jet.306365/
That was the approach I took with the rv but never knew how to put it into words.Finding a clean maintained low hours boat is worth all the money they are asking in my opinion. I do not mind paying above “market” when they are truly turnkey.
So we can blame you for this boat inflation?Finding a clean maintained low hours boat is worth all the money they are asking in my opinion. I do not mind paying above “market” when they are truly turnkey.
I might be to slightly blame only because I was one of those always looking for a bargain because I can fix and repair most anything and I have a full home shop at my disposal with lifts, machines, tools...., At the end of the day I got tired of always fixing the junk I brought home, parts and time are getting really expensive. I have found much more happiness in my life buying something used that is not such a project and just needs some tinkering and personalizing.So we can blame you for this boat inflation?And where are these 100% Turnkey boats? I have yet to find this mythical creature!
For example, is this market at 36k?
https://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/threads/2002-ultra-21-stealth-jet.306365/
Depends what your price point is. My boat was turn keySo we can blame you for this boat inflation?And where are these 100% Turnkey boats? I have yet to find this mythical creature!
Ultras have always been very sought after in the lower river crowd. I want to say back in 02 when my dad bought his 22 shockwave new it was $30k, the comparable Ultra was $40k. In 2019 Tahiti was selling that same ultra hull for under $50k.I cant wrap my head around that!Which is what screws my ability to get a gauge on this market. Is this like classic cars now I suppose?
In 2000 Ultra was 35k for a base model Stealth and 25k for a LX plus fees. Not including stereo, tower or many other available options. That included a 454 jet , or 350 alpha. The 350 mag was 5k or so more and the 454 bravo 1 was 7k + -. I went with the 454 B1. During covid I could of sold it for a few grand less than I paid new.Ultras have always been very sought after in the lower river crowd. I want to say back in 02 when my dad bought his 22 shockwave new it was $30k, the comparable Ultra was $40k. In 2019 Tahiti was selling that same ultra hull for under $50k.
You probably could for sure.1993 Ultra brand new, 350mag/alpha combo 17,999 OTD, pretty sure it would be close or worth more if I still owned it today.
In today's dollar your 1993 $18K = 2025 $39,883.031993 Ultra brand new, 350mag/alpha combo 17,999 OTD, pretty sure it would be close or worth more if I still owned it today.
I wont call out names on here. But i have bought a few members boats that were advertised “turn key” , paid top dollar, and all needed things.Depends what your price point is. My boat was turn key
I get that. Part of the fun is dialing it in making it yours. I’ve been very happy with this one not touching it minus regular maint and wants not needs to it lolI wont call out names on here. But i have bought a few members boats that were advertised “turn key” , paid top dollar, and all needed things.
Its al good, its a boat, shit happens. My standards are way higher I guess.
One man's turn key is like one man's 10/10 hahaha!!!I wont call out names on here. But i have bought a few members boats that were advertised “turn key” , paid top dollar, and all needed things.
Its al good, its a boat, shit happens. My standards are way higher I guess.
My dad and mom paid 72k for their 1999 Dayton with trailer 502 bravo with external steering. My dad then paid 5k for top of the line Sony stereo at the time. And another 9k for the pro charger.In today's dollar your 1993 $18K = 2025 $39,883.03
@NicPaus
In 2000 Ultra was 35k for a base model Stealth and 25k for a LX plus fees
2000 $ 35K = 2025 $65,194.80
@attitude
I want to say back in 02 when my dad bought his 22 shockwave new it was $30k,
2002 $30K = 2025 $53,239.49
I think the inflation calculator normalizes some of these prices. What role has the EPA or CARB played in the cost increases? What role has the lack of efficiency in production played? I don't necessarily see a lot of R&D and marketing costs.
My dad and mom paid 72k for their 1999 Dayton with trailer 502 bravo with external steering. My dad then paid 5k for top of the line Sony stereo at the time. And another 9k for the pro charger.
All in it was 86k.
I recently a year ago had eliminator quote me on a 255 Daytona with a Teague 1050 and scx drive top of the line RF stereo and triple axle trailer.
Get ready 315k….. wow
Boy boats sure got pricey. I see magics with 400 hours selling what they paid brand new who would have thought
Btw my dad sold his Daytona with a 540 in it for 28k many many years later. Boat had almost 1000 hours on it
I'm gonna answer for Ian...Because OB's are GHEY and don't go vroom vroom...lolHonestly, I would have thought that would be priced higher, with the Teague 1050 power. Why would you want to build a 255 at that price anyway when you can do a 27 with 450's for less.....![]()
1999 $85K = 2025 $165,108.62My dad and mom paid 72k for their 1999 Dayton with trailer 502 bravo with external steering. My dad then paid 5k for top of the line Sony stereo at the time. And another 9k for the pro charger.
All in it was 86k.
I recently a year ago had eliminator quote me on a 255 Daytona with a Teague 1050 and scx drive top of the line RF stereo and triple axle trailer.
Get ready 315k….. wow
Boy boats sure got pricey. I see magics with 400 hours selling what they paid brand new who would have thought
Btw my dad sold his Daytona with a 540 in it for 28k many many years later. Boat had almost 1000 hours on it
1999 $85K = 2025 $165,108.62
Good example to the new quote but that seems like a lot more in the power package than the 1999 version.
Do we need or expect it or have the car/boat companies figured out how to give us stuff we don't need and charge crazy prices to increase profits?Not to mention that our demands have changed significantly in the last 25 years. 1999 it was a boat with a stereo.
Now we have come to expect composite construction, elaborately stitched alacantra interiors, GPS, electric biminis, triple axle trailers, custom gel, underwater lights, etc, etc.
I DONT want any of that stuff in my boat, including the gay illuminated pep boys LED speaker rings. When did that become acceptable?!Do we need or expect it or have the car/boat companies figured out how to give us stuff we don't need and charge crazy prices to increase profits?
Kinda like Chicks!One man's turn key is like one man's 10/10 hahaha!!!
Don’t forget half/full caps and vessel view screens, that’s $40k in add ons with two common items.Not to mention that our demands have changed significantly in the last 25 years. 1999 it was a boat with a stereo.
Now we have come to expect composite construction, elaborately stitched alacantra interiors, GPS, electric biminis, triple axle trailers, custom gel, underwater lights, etc, etc.
Bring back the simple foxbodies!!!!I DONT want any of that stuff in my boat, including the gay illuminated pep boys LED speaker rings. When did that become acceptable?!![]()
Do we need or expect it or have the car/boat companies figured out how to give us stuff we don't need and charge crazy prices to increase profits?
Amen brother, Amen!Bring back the simple foxbodies!!!!![]()
Don’t feel special, had the same thing happen to me.I wont call out names on here. But i have bought a few members boats that were advertised “turn key” , paid top dollar, and all needed things.
Its al good, its a boat, shit happens. My standards are way higher I guess.
That is a beautiful boat.
I honestly think a 27 with 450s is prob over 400k now. I guess it would be 500s cause they don’t make the 450s anymore.Honestly, I would have thought that would be priced higher, with the Teague 1050 power. Why would you want to build a 255 at that price anyway when you can do a 27 with 450's for less.....![]()
I honestly think a 27 with 450s is prob over 400k now. I guess it would be 500s cause they don’t make the 450s anymore.
Side note a lot of haters in the new boats with nice interior, vessel view, outboards, underwater lights, mood lighting, half caps, guess that’s why builders don’t post in the mold anymore lol.
Who’s hating?I honestly think a 27 with 450s is prob over 400k now. I guess it would be 500s cause they don’t make the 450s anymore.
Side note a lot of haters in the new boats with nice interior, vessel view, outboards, underwater lights, mood lighting, half caps, guess that’s why builders don’t post in the mold anymore lol.