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"He has also vowed to end the automatic granting of citizenship to children of illegal immigrants born on U.S. soil." (emphasis mine)




No more anchor babies, which is great, historically this was set in place for slaves who had babies could become citizens, last time I checked slavery ended in Dec. 6th 1865.

And to be very clear, this is for all anchor babies, from all countries, the asian "come to America for birthing vacations" out ways the latin american influx in this area.
 

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send every politician who voted for this shit with them..

GTFO

BTW, If you can provide documents that you've been here for 10+ years...

you win Citizenship, you win Citizenship, you win Citizenship

more like "YOU EARNED CITIZENSHIP
 

HNL2LHC

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BTW, If you can provide documents that you've been here for 10+ years...

you win Citizenship, you win Citizenship, you win Citizenship

more like "YOU EARNED CITIZENSHIP

Was first thinking if I liked that then I thought…yeah get them into the system and start contributing into the system without any gains like the rest of us.….pay taxes!!! If that happens they might leave anyway.
 

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Was first thinking if I liked that then I thought…yeah get them into the system and start contributing into the system without any gains like the rest of us.….pay taxes!!! If that happens they might leave anyway.
Did anybody explain to these people that when you DO go on the BOOKS the government takes half your fucking money and gives it to the shithole they just came from ? Hell , if I worked for cash I would only need to make half as much and still have the same amount of money.
 
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This will require an amendment to the constitution.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Wonder how long it takes to strike the 14th amendment?
 

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All I ask is, Trump treat all gangs like El Salvador treated theirs, in his first year in office.

That has to be the lowest and easiest hanging fruit. 😉
 

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This will require an amendment to the constitution.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Wonder how long it takes to strike the 14th amendment?
If they are born here, but their parents are not citizens, then they are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof. May not require an amendment to the constitution, just the proper interpretation of the law.
 

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If they are born here, but their parents are not citizens, then they are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof. May not require an amendment to the constitution, just the proper interpretation of the law.
If they are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, how does one even hold them to any law on the books?

Consistent with your interpretation, if illegals are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, how does one arrest or deport an illegal as they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?

It has historically legally been ruled that the only individuals within the United States that are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof (subject to our laws) are diplomats with diplomatic immunity. All others are In the United States are subject to our laws. However, there are a lot of people in prison, particularly non-citizens, that would love your argument as they can not be guilty of the crimes they were found to be guilty of, as they were not subject to the jurisdiction therof and consistent with that, they were not subject to the laws in which they were convicted.

Seems like a stretch? 🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️

In any event, the courts will certainly be clogged over the next four years.
 
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If they are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, how does one even hold them to any law on the books?

Consistent with your interpretation, if illegals are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, how does one arrest or deport an illegal as they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?

It has historically legally been ruled that the only individuals within the United States that are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof (subject to our laws) are diplomats with diplomatic immunity. All others are In the United States are subject to our laws. However, there are a lot of people in prison, particularly non-citizens, that would love your argument as they can not be guilty of the crimes they were found to be guilty of, as they were not subject to the jurisdiction therof and consistent with that, they were not subject to the laws in which they were convicted.

Seems like a stretch? 🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️

In any event, the courts will certainly be clogged over the next four years.
 

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talking .5%

Deport ALL who entered the US of A in 2020.. every last one...

2019 and earlier... review status and make them US citizens .... there already paying taxes
 

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LOL

You posted an article supporting the position that the 14th amendment does provide citizenship.
530...

next time try reading the document..


""The Permanent Residence Process Is A Deterrent To Anchor Babies Citizenship
On the one hand, the anchor babies hyperbole is based on a flawed presentation of the permanent residence process.

I have served for almost 30 years as a Riverside immigration lawyer. I’ve never met anyone who came here to obtain citizenship through an unborn child.

Even if that was a deliberate plan, the likelihood of success is thin. To carry out such a far-fetched idea would take over 21 years. In fact, 33 years or longer.""


keep on Fishing..

as I mentioned before.. Hopefully your not affiliated to those Gov. Pedophile....

enjoy the next four years....

sure would SUX constantly looking over your shoulder
 

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send every politician who voted for this shit with them..

GTFO

BTW, If you can provide documents that you've been here for 10+ years...

you win Citizenship, you win Citizenship, you win Citizenship

more like "YOU EARNED CITIZENSHIP


Mark Levin just wrote an article on "Blaze" Media on this and it is not in our Constitution, Nor has it ever been Voted on by either house. This is a Left" promoted "SCAM" that benefits their Pathetic Agenda.
 

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We don't need to amend the constitution, we would just need a current SC interpretation of the 14th amendment that considers the reality and abuses of of today's immigration issues...
A majority of the current “conservative“ Supreme Court justices are originalists who believe in the specific written word when interpreting the constitution. That specifically excludes considering the reality of today and changes in the facts on the ground today.

Considering the realities of today is antithetical to how they view the constitution. They are originalists.
 

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A majority of the current “conservative“ Supreme Court justices are originalists who believe in the specific written word when interpreting the constitution. That specifically excludes considering the reality of today and changes in the facts on the ground today.

Considering the realities of today is antithetical to how they view the constitution. They are originalists.

The original wording was meant to apply to freed slaves, not anyone that came in illegally and then has a child.
 

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If they are born here, but their parents are not citizens, then they are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof. May not require an amendment to the constitution, just the proper interpretation of the law.
The original wording was meant to apply to freed slaves, not anyone that came in illegally and then has a child.
Let’s stick with this for a minute.

The argument you are making is that if parents are not US citizens, then the children are not US citizens as the 14th doesn’t apply.

Most of the people who immigrated to the US post civil war had children in the US but they were not yet US citizens as they had not yet become naturalized.

Therefore those children are not US citizens as these children never naturalized relying erroneously on the 14th. And neither are their children, or their children, or their children and so on and so on.

This case gets interesting, as the number of people who think they are US citizens, are no longer US citizens. As they never naturalized and their parents were not US citizens under your interpretation of the 14th.

No one in my family would be citizens. We would all be illegal for the last four generations.
 

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Let’s stick with this for a minute.

The argument you are making is that if parents are not US citizens, then the children are not US citizens as the 14th doesn’t apply.

Most of the people who immigrated to the US post civil war had children in the US but they were not yet US citizens as they had not yet become naturalized.

Therefore those children are not US citizens as these children never naturalized relying erroneously on the 14th. And neither are their children, or their children, or their children and so on and so on.

This case gets interesting, as the number of people who think they are US citizens, are no longer US citizens. As they never naturalized and their parents were not US citizens under your interpretation of the 14th.

No one in my family would be citizens. We would all be illegal for the last four generations.
Bummer for you. Get the fuck out then . :p
 

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Let’s stick with this for a minute.

The argument you are making is that if parents are not US citizens, then the children are not US citizens as the 14th doesn’t apply.

Most of the people who immigrated to the US post civil war had children in the US but they were not yet US citizens as they had not yet become naturalized.

Therefore those children are not US citizens as these children never naturalized relying erroneously on the 14th. And neither are their children, or their children, or their children and so on and so on.

This case gets interesting, as the number of people who think they are US citizens, are no longer US citizens. As they never naturalized and their parents were not US citizens under your interpretation of the 14th.

No one in my family would be citizens. We would all be illegal for the last four generations.

So you're saying that if the SC ruled on the 14th today, then they would apply it retroactively for several generations? 🤔
 

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So you're saying that if the SC ruled on the 14th today, then they would apply it retroactively for several generations? 🤔
The SC rules on the law.

If the SC ruled that the 14th amendment does not provide citizenship to someone born in America if at least one of the parents were not citizens as is being asserted in here, then those born in America under those circumstances would have no 14th amendment basis for citizenship under the law.

How to deal with the consequences of that ruling would be up to the legislature.
 

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The SC rules on the law.

If the SC ruled that the 14th amendment does not provide citizenship to someone born in America if at least one of the parents were not citizens as is being asserted in here, then those born in America under those circumstances would have no 14th amendment basis for citizenship under the law.

How to deal with the consequences of that ruling would be up to the legislature.

Who in the fuck is asserting that one parent is a citizen lil Pinocchio?
 

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The SC rules on the law.

If the SC ruled that the 14th amendment does not provide citizenship to someone born in America if at least one of the parents were not citizens as is being asserted in here, then those born in America under those circumstances would have no 14th amendment basis for citizenship under the law.

How to deal with the consequences of that ruling would be up to the legislature.

Ahhh, got it, so it would be the legislature that would be applying the law retroactively and deporting several generations at once in your scenario. Makes sense, thanks...!
 
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